Opel Ampera available in Ireland?

witless_steve

I had a look at some of the car threads here talking about EREV. When I go checking dealers they don't have any details on them.

So is the Ampera available here?
Or do they all get bought in the UK and rereged here?

colm_mcm

It was mentioned on opel.ie last year
http://www.opel.ie/experience-opel/opel-about/opel-news/2012/april/opel-news-ampera-more-orders-050312.html

But simi figures don't show any vauxhall or opel amperas being reg'd in Ireland

Wasn't it going to be around €50,000 though?

They're £33,750 in the UK anyway.

witless_steve

Just thought it was odd they don't have it listed anywhere. I checked my local dealer and they had no idea what I was talking about.

Are any EREVs available here at all?

colm_mcm

Toyota Ireland were making noise a few years back about the Prius plug-in, they sell it in the uk, but it's not on toyota.ie

Worth noting that the range is only 18km on the plug in. (Still handy for commuting)

witless_steve

So if I want one will have to import it?
Most annoying.

colm_mcm

Keep in mind that normal Priuss start at £22000 over there, and a plug in is £32000 before gov incentives (£4000 which you likely won't get)

ba_barabus

I was passed by an Irish regd 132 plate two weeks ago in Dublin so they are out there.

witless_steve

Just curious that there is a lot of press coverage on these things but dealers never know about them.

I have seen the Ampera and the Volt mentioned but not a sign of them on the road.

Atlantic Dawn

colm_mcm wrote: »

Toyota Ireland were making noise a few years back about the Prius plug-in, they sell it in the uk, but it's not on toyota.ie

Worth noting that the range is only 18km on the plug in. (Still handy for commuting)

Never knew it was that low, really not worth having, there's a difference of £6500 from the non plug in version. Would be far more economical and good for the environment to buy yourself a decent bike to do these 9k journeys.

ba_barabus

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Never knew it was that low, really not worth having, there's a difference of £6500 from the non plug in version. Would be far more economical and good for the environment to buy yourself a decent bike to do these 9k journeys.

I spotted a Prius taxi in Dublin over Christmas with advertisements on it for a plug in conversion. It was converted too.

colm_mcm

Far as I know the Prius plug in has different batteries to the standard Prius.
I'd be wary of doing such a conversion on a new car.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

Far as I know the Prius plug in has different batteries to the standard Prius.
I'd be wary of doing such a conversion on a new car.

I'll keep an eye out for it again. It was parked at Stephens Green and had a web address plastered all over it along with some stats.

witless_steve

Are plug in hybrids generally pretty rare on the roads?

colm_mcm

witless_steve wrote: »

Are plug in hybrids generally pretty rare on the roads?

Definately. The figures just don't add up.

witless_steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

Definately. The figures just don't add up.

Was doing some research on changing the ole chariot for something a little more eco friendly.
Lots of models don't seem to be available here.
Very annoying.

colm_mcm

Would you spend €50k on an ampera or €40k on a Prius plugin?

witless_steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

Would you spend €50k on an ampera or €40k on a Prius plugin?

I might if I got a good deal on a trade in and reasonable finance. Especially if I could talk the boss into a few shillings for using the car for work.

The price is a bit huge I admit. Maybe it will come down when it gets cheaper to assemble.

Wheelnut

witless_steve wrote: »

Was doing some research on changing the ole chariot for something a little more eco friendly.

If you want to be eco friendly keep the old one, that way they will not have to dig up tons of iron ore to make the metal, they will not have to use tons of oil to make the plastic and they will not have to use tons of energy making a car.

colm_mcm

witless_steve wrote: »

I might if I got a good deal on a trade in and reasonable finance. Especially if I could talk the boss into a few shillings for using the car for work.

The price is a bit huge I admit. Maybe it will come down when it gets cheaper to assemble.

Even if they gave you €5000 off, its still €45000

I'll have a 520d thanks.

witless_steve

The price is high but might come down in price in future.

Lovely sounding tech.

colm_mcm

If you have Netflix, check out "Revenge of the Electric Car"

witless_steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you have Netflix, check out "Revenge of the Electric Car"

Aside from Toyota and Honda, does anyone else do this tech?

colm_mcm

witless_steve wrote: »

Aside from Toyota and Honda, does anyone else do this tech?

Which tech?

witless_steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

Which tech?

Sorry, I meant hybrid tech.

colm_mcm

Quite a few,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hybrid_vehicles
Towards the end of the article.

Not many of them available in Ireland though.

BMJD

colm_mcm wrote: »

Not many of them available in Ireland though.

It's convenient for the badge snobs

NIMAN

witless_steve wrote: »

I had a look at some of the car threads here talking about EREV. When I go checking dealers they don't have any details on them.

So is the Ampera available here?
Or do they all get bought in the UK and rereged here?

2012 One available in NI for £21k.

http://www.usedcarsni.com/2012-Vauxhall-Ampera-5Dr-1-4-16v-VVT-Electron-121525555

Plus, afaik, there is no VRT to bring it to RoI.

colm_mcm

NIMAN wrote: »

2012 One available in NI for £21k.

http://www.usedcarsni.com/2012-Vauxhall-Ampera-5Dr-1-4-16v-VVT-Electron-121525555

Plus, afaik, there is no VRT to bring it to RoI.

VRT is €1817.
€25,155 for the car, so just under €27k.

Soarer

You sure about that vrt? The ampera is an electric car like.

colm_mcm

Soarer wrote: »

You sure about that vrt? The ampera is an electric car like.

It's a petrol car too. Unlike, say, a leaf which doesn't use petrol.

witless_steve

colm_mcm wrote: »

VRT is €1817.
€25,155 for the car, so just under €27k.

Wow that is a good price.

Soarer

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's a petrol car too. Unlike, say, a leaf which doesn't use petrol.

But shur that's only bollox.

It doesn't use petrol to propel the car. It's basically just a generator to charge the battery. So how they can class it as a "petrol" car is beyond me.

Not a rant at you Col.

witless_steve

Soarer wrote: »

But shur that's only bollox.

It doesn't use petrol to propel the car. It's basically just a generator to charge the battery. So how they can class it as a "petrol" car is beyond me.

Not a rant at you Col.

I think revenue would say there is CO2 coming out the exhaust pipe so VRT is due.

colm_mcm

Soarer wrote: »

But shur that's only bollox.

It doesn't use petrol to propel the car. It's basically just a generator to charge the battery. So how they can class it as a "petrol" car is beyond me.

Not a rant at you Col.

But you put petrol in, exhaust gasses come out, they've tested the emissions and all and there are some!
Otherwise you'd have range rover v8s with enough battery power to do 2 miles and they'd be zero emissions. Where would you draw the line?

Soarer

Oh yeah, forgot about the emissions!

But of a spa!