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Another NCPS story

  • 29-12-2013 12:05am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭


    NCPS clamped me because they couldn't see disk behind the windscreen as there was water on it. http://i.imgur.com/YwSgjPk.jpg
    Disk is behind insurance and tax disks where you can see white receipts.
    Is this my mistake? Or they just don't give a **** anymore?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    so you got clamped because it was raining .

    fair play lads, out with the angle grinder i say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭lanber man


    That's just ridiculous. Id be onto the guards about that one basically robbing people who won't stand up for themselves.
    Time to call joe lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I can see there a white bitfof what's probably paper to the left of the tax and insurance discs but there's no way I could tell if it's a parking ticket.


  • Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can see there a white bit of what's probably paper to the left of the tax and insurance discs but there's no way I could tell if it's a parking ticket.

    What was preventing the clamper from giving the windscreen a wipe with his hand in order to see it more clearly? Looks to me like the water/condensation is on the outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Ring the company and show them the valid ticket and the photo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    biko wrote: »
    Ring the company and show them the valid ticket and the photo.

    that will be a good trick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Patrickheg


    I can see there a white bitfof what's probably paper to the left of the tax and insurance discs but there's no way I could tell if it's a parking ticket.

    You are looking at a photo, id imagine up close it would be different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    biko wrote: »
    Ring the company and show them the valid ticket and the photo.

    No point.. y'know how that works - "pay the fine and appeal it" followed by "appeal rejected"

    I prefer "Clamp? What clamp?" though luckily I've yet to live in a place roamed by these parasites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 772 ✭✭✭GTDolanator


    Cut the ****ing thing off,shower of bastards they will chance anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭BMJD


    Its your own fault, you should have expected rain and placed an umbrella over that area of the vehicle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    siulas wrote: »
    NCPS clamped me because they couldn't see disk behind the windscreen as there was water on it.
    Out of interest, where did you get clamped?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,730 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Normally you have to pay regardless first and then appeal. The only appeal they listen to is the grunt from a consaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Yorkie Bo


    Hi all, hoping you can help.

    I was clamped today as I wasn't "permitted" to park in my own parking place outside my apartment. It had taken NCPS 4 months to send me out an application form for my permit which was sent away on the 03 February.

    Also, my partner's car (Audi) is in the exact same situation as mine (Micra) and his car wasn't clamped? - Selective clamping it seems.

    We had a look at the car and my hoodcap was loose so I removed it - did not interfere with the clamp in anyway.

    I gave in and rang up and paid the 120 for the clamp to be removed.
    However NCPS have came and removed a clamp on another car in the carpark and moved my hood cap to underneath my car and moved the clamp away from my car but the lock is still locked around my wheel.

    Cannot get through to them on the phone and don't understand why the clamp wasn't removed as I have paid.
    Could it be because I removed my hoodcap?

    Would appreciate any advice?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    what's a hoodcap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Yorkie Bo


    Just a cap covering the front of my tyre, easily removable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    ah hubcap you mean. I don't see how that would make a difference.It' your hubcap.keep ringing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Yorkie Bo


    Haha sorry, I have been calling it a hoodcap for years! Going to keep trying now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    I can see there a white bitfof what's probably paper to the left of the tax and insurance discs but there's no way I could tell if it's a parking ticket.

    Or not. A case for the benefit of the doubt I would have thaught, but no profit in that.

    Sure he can appeal to the same company that just fcuked him over I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Or not. A case for the benefit of the doubt I would have thaught, but no profit in that.

    Sure he can appeal to the same company that just fcuked him over I suppose.
    It's not about benefit of the doubt. He never told us whether the condensation was on the inside or the outside of the windscreen. If it was on the outside NCPS were wrong, if it was on the inside then the OP was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Anan1 wrote: »
    It's not about benefit of the doubt. He never told us whether the condensation was on the inside or the outside of the windscreen. If it was on the outside NCPS were wrong, if it was on the inside then the OP was.

    The op bought a ticket and displayed it clearly on the dash, that is what you are supposed to do. I don't know if the condensation was on the inside or not but what else could the op possibly have done to avoid getting clamped.

    It just looks like more sharp practice to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    RustyNut wrote: »
    The op bought a ticket and displayed it clearly on the dash, that is what you are supposed to do. I don't know if the condensation was on the inside or not but what else could the op possibly have done to avoid getting clamped.
    The point is that if the condensation was on the inside then the ticket wasn't clearly displayed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Anan1 wrote: »
    The point is that if the condensation was on the inside then the ticket wasn't clearly displayed.

    I take it you work as a clamper. Whats the commission like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Whosthis wrote: »
    I take it you work as a clamper. Whats the commission like?
    No idea. Don't give up the day job just yet. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Yorkie Bo wrote: »
    Hi all, hoping you can help.

    I was clamped today as I wasn't "permitted" to park in my own parking place outside my apartment. It had taken NCPS 4 months to send me out an application form for my permit which was sent away on the 03 February.

    Also, my partner's car (Audi) is in the exact same situation as mine (Micra) and his car wasn't clamped? - Selective clamping it seems.

    We had a look at the car and my hoodcap was loose so I removed it - did not interfere with the clamp in anyway.

    I gave in and rang up and paid the 120 for the clamp to be removed.
    However NCPS have came and removed a clamp on another car in the carpark and moved my hood cap to underneath my car and moved the clamp away from my car but the lock is still locked around my wheel.

    Cannot get through to them on the phone and don't understand why the clamp wasn't removed as I have paid.
    Could it be because I removed my hoodcap?

    Would appreciate any advice?

    So they have you immobilised illegally at this stage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Whosthis wrote: »
    I take it you work as a clamper. Whats the commission like?

    He's not. Anan is just a professional wind up merchant who is very good at not breaking the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    ottostreet wrote: »
    He's not. Anan is just a professional wind up merchant who is very good at not breaking the rules.
    * yawns *
    When you tire of throwing second-hand little digs from the sidelines you might have a go at rebutting my point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Anan1 wrote: »
    * yawns *
    When you tire of throwing second-hand little digs from the sidelines you might have a go at rebutting my point.

    It's funny how the ones accused of being trolls have irrefutable points......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Back to the topic at hand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Anan1 wrote: »
    * yawns *
    When you tire of throwing second-hand little digs from the sidelines you might have a go at rebutting my point.

    Never mind.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    biko wrote: »
    Back to the topic at hand

    Apologies, I posted while you were adding this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Apologies, I posted while you were adding this.

    It took you 9 minutes to post it after the warning..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    It took you 9 minutes to post it after the warning..........

    I'm at work, can't be on Boards non stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    ottostreet wrote: »
    I'm at work, can't be on Boards non stop!
    I could be incredibly obtuse but if your working nights I think you've enough on your plate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    I could be incredibly obtuse but if your working nights I think you've enough on your plate.

    edited.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Anyway...back to the guy who has paid the clampers yet is still clamped. Superglue?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Anan1 wrote: »
    The point is that if the condensation was on the inside then the ticket wasn't clearly displayed.

    I think it's a safe assumption that the condensation was not there when the car was parked. The op parked, payed the relevent fee and displayed the ticket in accordance with the instructions. The op done everything required of him.

    What do you think the op should have done to avoid getting clamped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    RustyNut wrote: »
    I think it's a safe assumption that the condensation was not there when the car was parked. The op parked, payed the relevent fee and displayed the ticket in accordance with the instructions. The op done everything required of him.

    What do you think the op should have done to avoid getting clamped.
    The ticket needs to be displayed to avoid getting clamped. If the condensation was on the inside then the ticket was not displayed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    ..and if the condensation formed after he had displayed, which is almost certainly the case unless he was driving in a very unsafe manner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    corktina wrote: »
    ..and if the condensation formed after he had displayed, which is almost certainly the case unless he was driving in a very unsafe manner?
    I don't really see any room for confusion here - when the condensation formed the ticket was no longer on display.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I don't really see any room for confusion here - when the condensation formed the ticket was no longer on display.

    "and when the sun went down the the clamper couldnt read the ticket..."

    is there no common sense left in this country.:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    act of god


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    NCPS insist on the ticket being displayed on the dash and that is what the OP did. Weather and atmospheric conditions can lead to condensation building up on the outside or inside of any windscreen and a company like NCPS should have a procedure in place for when that happens.
    I would suggest that extending the benefit of the doubt would be a reasonable procedure. You seem to prefare the fcuk the customer over approach. Well just have to agree to differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭brian plank


    Anan1 wrote: »
    I don't really see any room for confusion here - when the condensation formed the ticket was no longer on display.

    hmmm interesting. i wonder would that work at garda checkpoints. close your eyes, speed through and explain to the judge you couldn't see the checkpoint so therefore it wasn't there and as you had your eyes closed they couldn't see you either. i know i'm never paying tax and insurance again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    RustyNut wrote: »
    NCPS insist on the ticket being displayed on the dash and that is what the OP did.
    No, NCPS insist on the ticket being clearly visible, which it wasn't.
    RustyNut wrote: »
    Weather and atmospheric conditions can lead to condensation building up on the outside or inside of any windscreen and a company like NCPS should have a procedure in place for when that happens.
    Are you serious? The driver is responsible for ensuring that the ticket can be seen. Not God, not the fairies, not NCPS, but the person with the keys to the car.
    RustyNut wrote: »
    I would suggest that extending the benefit of the doubt would be a reasonable procedure. You seem to prefare the fcuk the customer over approach. Well just have to agree to differ.
    The only doubt here is whether the condensation was on the inside or the outside of the windscreen. If it was on the inside then the ticket wasn't displayed, full stop.

    Honestly lads, hating NCPS is fair enough but don't try to turn reason on its head to blame them for something that's entirely the car owners responsibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    private company making its own rules....cut the thing off regardless of condensation on the inside or outside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭mulbot


    these tickets have a sticky part so u can attach to the window,so why didn't the person do that?can easily be read then regardless of condensation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    Anan1 wrote: »
    No, NCPS insist on the ticket being clearly visible, which it wasn't.

    Are you serious? The driver is responsible for ensuring that the ticket can be seen. Not God, not the fairies, not NCPS, but the person with the keys to the car.

    The only doubt here is whether the condensation was on the inside or the outside of the windscreen. If it was on the inside then the ticket wasn't displayed, full stop.

    Honestly lads, hating NCPS is fair enough but don't try to turn reason on its head to blame them for something that's entirely the car owners responsibility.


    In this case how should the PO have clearly displayed the ticket?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    private company making its own rules
    The rules are clearly written and displayed by the company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    RustyNut wrote: »
    In this case how should the PO have clearly displayed the ticket?
    If it were me (and if the condensation was in fact on the inside) then I'd fix the leak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    The rules are clearly written and displayed by the company.


    they maybe....but where does it say i have to accept them?


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