Dealing with scumbags??

Seaneh

Ok, about 25 minutes ago, I had an altercation with a scumbag.

He was one of the shiny tracksuit clad sub cretinous types that populate the north inner city, especially along the luas line and quays.

I got to the Jervis luas stop just as the tram was pulling away. I looked at the sign for the next tram and it wasn't due for about 5 minutes so I thought "feck it, I'll walk to the four courts and get rather than waiting around".

Off I saunter fro jervis, I crossed the road at the junction with caple street and briefly contemplated popping into Cyclebike for a look around at the pretty bikes.

Cross back over a little further up the road. Had my phone in my hand and was about to put it into my pocket. little prick coming by me attempts to grab the phone out of my hand. He fails,and I shove it into my pocket.

He, in embarrassment or whatever, stops his run (he was running past me) and comes back and faces me and says "Give me the ****ing phone or I'll ****ing clock ya" or something to that effect.

Now, those of you who have met me know I am not a small man. While average height, I'm not average weight and I'm far from shy. This fellow was about my height but about 10 stone weight and as far as I could tell, had no weapon.

In my other hand at the time, in a paper easons bag was a copy of the new Alex Ferguson biography which mammy seaneh had asked me to pick up for her as a gift for one of their friends who is a man united fanatic.

As the little scummer is getting in my face I raise my hands (with the book in my right hand now) and say "not happening bud, walk on, I don't want any hassle".

Little prick gets closer and I instinctively smacker him across the bridge of the nose with the book quickly followed by another smack across the side of the head with the book and a well drawn left boot to the bollocks.

He bends over in pain and them scarpers off shouting back "you're ****ing dead, I'll get you, I'll remember you".

If he had a weapon I would have just given him the phone, no sense in taking the risk. But seeing as I thought I could atleast hold me own with him, I decided "**** this" and defended myself and my possessions as is allowed by the law.

How would you react in a similar situation?

LOSTfan57

Kick the back off the ***** kneecaps laugh and walk on. He wont be as quick again to try that ****

Canyon86

Seaneh wrote: »

Ok, about 25 minutes ago, I had an altercation with a scumbag.

He was one of the shiny tracksuit clad sub cretinous types that populate the north inner city, especially along the luas line and quays.

I got to the Jervis luas stop just as the tram was pulling away. I looked at the sign for the next tram and it wasn't due for about 5 minutes so I thought "feck it, I'll walk to the four courts and get rather than waiting around".

Off I saunter fro jervis, I crossed the road at the junction with caple street and briefly contemplated popping into Cyclebike for a look around at the pretty bikes.

Cross back over a little further up the road. Had my phone in my hand and was about to put it into my pocket. little prick coming by me attempts to grab the phone out of my hand. He fails,and I shove it into my pocket.

He, in embarrassment or whatever, stops his run (he was running past me) and comes back and faces me and says "Give me the ****ing phone or I'll ****ing clock ya" or something to that effect.

Now, those of you who have met me know I am not a small man. While average height, I'm not average weight and I'm far from shy. This fellow was about my height but about 10 stone weight and as far as I could tell, had no weapon.

In my other hand at the time, in a paper easons bag was a copy of the new Alex Ferguson biography which mammy seaneh had asked me to pick up for her as a gift for one of their friends who is a man united fanatic.

As the little scummer is getting in my face I raise my hands (with the book in my right hand now) and say "not happening bud, walk on, I don't want any hassle".

Little prick gets closer and I instinctively smacker him across the bridge of the nose with the book quickly followed by another smack across the side of the head with the book and a well drawn left boot to the bollocks.

He bends over in pain and them scarpers off shouting back "you're ****ing dead, I'll get you, I'll remember you".

If he had a weapon I would have just given him the phone, no sense in taking the risk. But seeing as I thought I could atleast hold me own with him, I decided "**** this" and defended myself and my possessions as is allowed by the law.

How would you react in a similar situation?

Well done!

As a 6ft4 giant I d have done the same

Enjoy the xmas

Knob Longman

You done the right thing..

Morph the Cat

EXACT same thing happened to me, except I punched him 1 extra time - so I should get more thanks than you for your thanks-seeking story.

Corkbah

you did well… fair play.

he deserved more - but even if you had caught him and brought him to the gardai - he'd be back on the streets in less than 30mins.

Khannie

Seaneh wrote: »

How would you react in a similar situation?

I would have beaten the snot out of him, then called the gardai, tbh.

Frosty McSnowballs

Good man Seaneh.

Didn't seem like there was much else to do. Walking off is the best thing to do obviously, but when he's that close an aul punch to the throat is the way to go.

kryogen

Non AH answer, fair play, regardless it takes bottle to stand up to these scumbags and if more people did it the world would be a brighter place.

AH answer

WTF? Keyboard warrior is it? Think your great cuz you smacked some 15 year old in the face with a copy of Fergies book? Go way out of that, if you were any good you'd have smashed his nose out the back of his face and decapitated him with your little finger, all the while tearing off your top to reveal a massive tattoo of an S on your chest with Enrique Inglasias song Hero playing on your phone

For Seaneh, not Superman

Gally05

u should have kept kicking ..

strandsman

wait for the PC brigade!! they'll be on here shortly saying you should have walked away and report to the gardai, they'll also say he is a victim of society, it's not his fault he's a scum bucket rat face rodent, they'll also probably say you should have handed over your phone !! sure you can afford another....... wait for it

Seaneh wrote: »

Ok, about 25 minutes ago, I had an altercation with a scumbag.

He was one of the shiny tracksuit clad sub cretinous types that populate the north inner city, especially along the luas line and quays.

I got to the Jervis luas stop just as the tram was pulling away. I looked at the sign for the next tram and it wasn't due for about 5 minutes so I thought "feck it, I'll walk to the four courts and get rather than waiting around".

Off I saunter fro jervis, I crossed the road at the junction with caple street and briefly contemplated popping into Cyclebike for a look around at the pretty bikes.

Cross back over a little further up the road. Had my phone in my hand and was about to put it into my pocket. little prick coming by me attempts to grab the phone out of my hand. He fails,and I shove it into my pocket.

He, in embarrassment or whatever, stops his run (he was running past me) and comes back and faces me and says "Give me the ****ing phone or I'll ****ing clock ya" or something to that effect.

Now, those of you who have met me know I am not a small man. While average height, I'm not average weight and I'm far from shy. This fellow was about my height but about 10 stone weight and as far as I could tell, had no weapon.

In my other hand at the time, in a paper easons bag was a copy of the new Alex Ferguson biography which mammy seaneh had asked me to pick up for her as a gift for one of their friends who is a man united fanatic.

As the little scummer is getting in my face I raise my hands (with the book in my right hand now) and say "not happening bud, walk on, I don't want any hassle".

Little prick gets closer and I instinctively smacker him across the bridge of the nose with the book quickly followed by another smack across the side of the head with the book and a well drawn left boot to the bollocks.

He bends over in pain and them scarpers off shouting back "you're ****ing dead, I'll get you, I'll remember you".

If he had a weapon I would have just given him the phone, no sense in taking the risk. But seeing as I thought I could atleast hold me own with him, I decided "**** this" and defended myself and my possessions as is allowed by the law.

How would you react in a similar situation?

Vito Corleone

Please tell me you said "Merry Christmas, you filthy animal!" when you hit him?

Seaneh

Gally05 wrote: »

u should have kept kicking ..

He was too quick.

Nearly caught him with an all mighty kick in the hole as he was turning to run away.

The book is still in perfect nick too, so all is well that ends well.

dan1895

Fair play. The heal of your hand to the underside of his nose would also have been an acceptable answer.

tinkerbell

That'll be a lovely story for your mother as she unwraps her new shiny book, which 2 days prior was used to whack some thieving scumbag in da face :pac:

Fr_Dougal

It's what Fergie would have wanted.

dukedalton

Pity there didn't happen to be a tram passing at the time. You could have done humankind a favour.

hatrickpatrick

Seaneh wrote: »

Ok, about 25 minutes ago, I had an altercation with a scumbag.

He was one of the shiny tracksuit clad sub cretinous types that populate the north inner city, especially along the luas line and quays.

I got to the Jervis luas stop just as the tram was pulling away. I looked at the sign for the next tram and it wasn't due for about 5 minutes so I thought "feck it, I'll walk to the four courts and get rather than waiting around".

Off I saunter fro jervis, I crossed the road at the junction with caple street and briefly contemplated popping into Cyclebike for a look around at the pretty bikes.

Cross back over a little further up the road. Had my phone in my hand and was about to put it into my pocket. little prick coming by me attempts to grab the phone out of my hand. He fails,and I shove it into my pocket.

He, in embarrassment or whatever, stops his run (he was running past me) and comes back and faces me and says "Give me the ****ing phone or I'll ****ing clock ya" or something to that effect.

Now, those of you who have met me know I am not a small man. While average height, I'm not average weight and I'm far from shy. This fellow was about my height but about 10 stone weight and as far as I could tell, had no weapon.

In my other hand at the time, in a paper easons bag was a copy of the new Alex Ferguson biography which mammy seaneh had asked me to pick up for her as a gift for one of their friends who is a man united fanatic.

As the little scummer is getting in my face I raise my hands (with the book in my right hand now) and say "not happening bud, walk on, I don't want any hassle".

Little prick gets closer and I instinctively smacker him across the bridge of the nose with the book quickly followed by another smack across the side of the head with the book and a well drawn left boot to the bollocks.

He bends over in pain and them scarpers off shouting back "you're ****ing dead, I'll get you, I'll remember you".

If he had a weapon I would have just given him the phone, no sense in taking the risk. But seeing as I thought I could atleast hold me own with him, I decided "**** this" and defended myself and my possessions as is allowed by the law.

How would you react in a similar situation?

I'm normally a mild enough guy and I abhor violence, but to be honest I don't think you went far enough. I'd probably have decked him to unconsciousness and walked on.

If I was brought to court for assault I would happily stand in the dock and tell the judge that such vigilantism is the only option we have left while the courts continue to give out bullish!t suspended sentences for these f*ckers.
Again this might surprise some given my usual demeanour, but tbh it's only after you've had something incredibly important stolen by one of these gosh!tes (in my case it was an iPhone with the number of a girl I'd fancied for ages and just asked for her number an hour beforehand) that you realise just how ridiculous the situation is. Had an aerial photo of the house the phone was in, brought it to the guards and they accused me of beig tipsy (was on a dive night out) and refused to do anything about it. Googled the address when into home and discovered the guy had been in court a year beforehand for stealing phones, with previous convictions in the 50s, and had been allowed to walk with a suspended sentence. :mad:

If law enforcement and the justice system refuse to do their job and keep us safe, that's when (in some cases) vigilantism becomes somewhat acceptable.

Riddle101

Don't know tbh, haven't been in that type of a situation before. Although I wouldn't exactly pull my phone out either tbh. I know people who have had their phone snatched out of their hands before. Never would I pull it out in town. Not unless I was in a safe enough place.

As for the scumbag, fair play. He got a smack and walked away like a typical cowardly bully. Just lucky he didn't have friends with him I guess.

Seaneh

tinkerbell wrote: »

That'll be a lovely story for your mother as she unwraps her new shiny book, which 2 days prior was used to whack some thieving scumbag in da face :pac:

It's not for mammy Seaneh, it's for mammy Seaneh's friend.

cantdecide

Well done, OP. I'd advise the little shítbag that you live by the sword, you die by the sword. You don't always get justice from these scenarios but you've managed it this time.

Gary ITR

When I was 18 (30 next month )I had a scummer put what he told me was a syringe to my neck and he took my phone. When he took his hand down I saw he had the edge of a coin touching my skin, no syringe so I kicked 7 shades of ****e out of him, left him in a heap and got on the next bus.

This happened at a packed bus stop on Wood Quay, not one person came to my aid even though it was obvious what was going on. When I was knocking the head off him though one chap came over and got stuck in too. I got my phone back and a tenner he had in his pocket. Only realised I was up a tenner when I got on the bus.

Penny Tration

Personally, I would have handed over my phone after asking him could I take the sim card.

I'm 5‘1, no way can I take on a bloke. A scumbag woman, I've done enough boxing classes that I could probably knock her out, but a bloke? Wouldn't take any chances. My phone can be replaced, I can't.

krudler

Most little scummers are pussies, only act hard when they're in a group. Tell them **** off and you usually get the hard man walking away speech.

Pinch Flat

6'2", 15 stone. I would have rammed tht little Ronny to the back of his throat. Well done.

Setun

Best use of the Alex Ferguson bio I've heard yet.

ubs69

Fair play to ya ,did you get the feel good factor ?

Seaneh

By the way, when I said "how would you react in a similar situation" I meant if it was happening to you and you were pretty sure you could take them on.

Obviously if dude was like 6'3 and well built I'd have shat my pants or did a legger or something.

mikom

Seaneh wrote: »

In my other hand at the time, in a paper easons bag was a copy of the new Alex Ferguson biography which mammy seaneh had asked me to pick up for her as a gift for one of their friends who is a man united fanatic.

As the little scummer is getting in my face I raise my hands (with the book in my right hand now) and say "not happening bud, walk on, I don't want any hassle".

Little prick gets closer and I instinctively smacker him across the bridge of the nose with the book quickly followed by another smack across the side of the head with the book and a well drawn left boot to the bollocks.

Injury time winner.............. some things never change, Sir Alex......

bucketybuck

Seaneh wrote: »

How would you react in a similar situation?

I have no time for the "Just walk away" crowd. Thats the type of bull**** that years later leads to a society where people walk away when they hear screams from a woman down an alleyway, its cowardly rubbish.

Anyway, I am lucky enough to be well built, so in a case like the OP I will just deck the runt. And if he pulls a knife then he'd better know how to use it.

Grayditch

You totally went all Roy Keane with that Ferguson book.

Gran Hermano

I guess it'd be too complicated for a garda station in Dublin to have a day where they swap staff with a garda station in another ciity and have the
Gardai go under covercover around these junkie hotspots whilst holding/using smartphones.

Seaneh

As an aside, this is the first time I've ever had any hassle from anyone in Dublin. The most interaction I'd had with the tracksuit clad clan up until now was the odd one doing the "any change bud" stuff a bit too aggressively at bus/luas stops but never felt threatened. I'm still kind of surprised it happened and it definitely makes me wonder how often the little **** are snatching phones in the city.

BMJD

If it were Keano's book they'd be scraping body parts from town until next week

Wanderer2010

Seaneh wrote: »

He was too quick.

Nearly caught him with an all mighty kick in the hole as he was turning to run away.

The book is still in perfect nick too, so all is well that ends well.

You 100% did the right thing in my view, it seems he was squaring up to you and you stood your ground and defended yourself, its a perfectly reasonable reaction. I pose a question to you OP, if you had the little scumbag at your mercy somewhere, say tied up in some warehouse, nobody around for miles and you had whatever weapons at your disposal, would you finish the job, if nothing else just to vent whatever anger is left? Its an honest question, some victims of assault waste weeks afterwards replaying the scenario in their head...

Mr Williams

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

If law enforcement and the justice system refuse to do their job and keep us safe, that's when (in some cases) vigilantism becomes somewhat acceptable.

In our "Justice" system if you stand up to these scumbags your the criminal.
Your lucky the gardas were not around they probably would of nicked you for hitting him.

If someone attempts to mug or rob you they are fair game imo.

Morph the Cat

green_screen wrote: »

I'm 5‘1, no way can I take on a bloke.

There's no rush to grow old though, man - enjoy your youth. Just wait until you hit your teens and it'll all come with time.

spurious

He probably had a bad childhood. Bless.












*not really

NuckingFacker

I would have just walked by and he would have decided to find someone else to try to mug tbh, but then I'm an awful rough looking cnut. I'd actually love one to try, just for the lols. Good for you for clattering the robbing git Seaneh. They need more clattering.

Gran Hermano

Plenty of advice on how to interact with these types in the Boards zombie survival forum.

Seaneh

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

You 100% did the right thing in my view, it seems he was squaring up to you and you stood your ground and defended yourself, its a perfectly reasonable reaction. I pose a question to you OP, if you had the little scumbag at your mercy somewhere, say tied up in some warehouse, nobody around for miles and you had whatever weapons at your disposal, would you finish the job, if nothing else just to vent whatever anger is left? Its an honest question, some victims of assault waste weeks afterwards replaying the scenario in their head...

Ha, no, If I'd gotten hold of him I'd have called the gardai though and held him until they arrived.

Manach

Well done the OP.

Mr Williams

We need more Charles Bronson types in Ireland.

WhatNowForUs?

strandsman wrote: »

wait for the PC brigade!! they'll be on here shortly saying you should have walked away and report to the gardai, they'll also say he is a victim of society, it's not his fault he's a scum bucket rat face rodent, they'll also probably say you should have handed over your phone !! sure you can afford another....... wait for it

An hour on and no 'PC brigade' yet. You must be suitability impressed.

Mark Tapley

strandsman wrote: »

wait for the PC brigade!! they'll be on here shortly saying you should have walked away and report to the gardai, they'll also say he is a victim of society, it's not his fault he's a scum bucket rat face rodent, they'll also probably say you should have handed over your phone !! sure you can afford another....... wait for it

No some twat moaning about pc brigade usually arrives first.

Kerrydude1981

Mr Williams wrote: »

We need more Charles Bronson types in Ireland.

Add in Clint Eastwood as well

Jimmy Garlic

The poor fella probably had a very deprived upbringing. The trauma of your assault on him will probably add to his overall sense of anguish. You should just have given your phone to someone less fortunate than yourself. Society has abandoned these poor unfortunate people and owes them a debt.

Renegade Mechanic

Seaneh wrote: »

By the way, when I said "how would you react in a similar situation" I meant if it was happening to you and you were pretty sure you could take them on.

Obviously if dude was like 6'3 and well built I'd have shat my pants or did a legger or something.

Probably the same. Though even with a a similar height/build if you convey through your body language that you will gladly leave all pretenses of self preservation at the door, like any animal, theyll pick up on it and back off. Mostly... Anyway if I were you I would change your appearance a bit to play it safe. You beat one k

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, they will nearly always come back with many friends. Usually because theyll greatly overexaggerate the story of what you did. And contrary to popular belief they do remember. Plus they dont have jobs or any other social responsibility to keep them occupied. Wearing different clothes goes without saying but things like loosing any facial hair if you have it, tightening a hair cut or if you have neither of either, grow the former a little and wear a cap or ordinary glasses. Of course, if you live completed outside of dublin then disregard everything youve just read

circadian

I find a good old nordie "ah'll knock yer f**k in" followed with a headbutt works.

Well done OP

NuckingFacker

Yup, one day Seaneh, heading to start a new err, life outside of Dublin. About to step aboard the Luas, you can almost smell the country air, the freedom, a stash of shopping clasped in your hand - loved ones awaiting anxiously. Then bang, from nowhere, the flash of a blade, freedom ripped from your grasp - whispered like from a distant world-

"Remember me? Benny, from the Bronx."


.... or possibly not..but watch your back for a bit, scummers are like bad pennys, the fcukers keep on turning up.



with apologies to Carlitos Way for the mangling..