15 - 18k

GreeBo

Hey, so I have about 15k but could stretch a little more to get something ideal.
Currently driving a 98 avensis that is on its last legs I reckon.

I'm looking at A4/6, S40/60 type of car, diesel around 09, no more that 2l engine. I don't do daily high mileage but would go on long spins at least once a month, assuming this is enough to avoid dpf, dmf issues...?

I want leather and as many bits and pieces inside it for comfort, so heated seats, computer, parking sensors, sat nav maybe.

I'm going to go dealer, maybe even main dealer as I don't want private or hassle dealing with some small garage if problems develop.

Any other motors you can recommend?
Also, needs to have a good sized boot for golf clubs as I'm very used to the space in the avensis.

Cheers!

colm_mcm

Jag XF (even if its at least 2.7)

rwg

listed for 22 but i would expect 18-19 would make it yours

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/3-Series/320d-M-S/37713857049238440/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

mfceiling

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/2.0-138b/37713869274051170/advert?channel=CARS

Think that should be you sorted greebo...

Nonoperational

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/159/2.0-JTDM/37213865866451960/advert?channel=CARS

rwg

mfceiling wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/2.0-138b/37713869274051170/advert?channel=CARS

Think that should be you sorted greebo...

90k miles on clock - dunno bout anyone else, but I wouldnt pay 17-18 k on a car with almost 100k miles on clock

Seweryn

GreeBo wrote: »

needs to have a good sized boot for golf clubs

There you are:

colm_mcm wrote: »

Jag XF (even if its at least 2.7)

For Forks Sake

Nonoperational wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/159/2.0-JTDM/37213865866451960/advert?channel=CARS

Nice car,but seems overpriced, especially when you consider what depreciation will be on it

mfceiling

Nonoperational wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/159/2.0-JTDM/37213865866451960/advert?channel=CARS

That is beautiful

GreeBo

Boot opening looks tiny on that alpha...Also I wouldn't buy a white car...
Also would reliability break my heart?

A4 does look nice, you reckon they'd take 15 for it?

colm_mcm

Personally I wouldn't buy anything from garages in that part of town. Granted there may be a few decent ones but the majority are questionable.

Nonoperational

GreeBo wrote: »

Boot opening looks tiny on that alpha...Also I wouldn't buy a white car...
Also would reliability break my heart?

A4 does look nice, you reckon they'd take 15 for it?

The 159 is as reliable as anything else now.

bazz26

Comfy Volvo S80:

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S80/2.0-D/36513789121174190/

GreeBo

colm_mcm wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't buy anything from garages in that part of town. Granted there may be a few decent ones but the majority are questionable.

Hey, can I ask why? Dodgy mileage, crashed etc?
I havent a clue so would appreciate the advice on what to look for

Scortho

Nonoperational wrote: »

The 159 is as unreliable as anything else now.

FYP.

With dmf, dpf and turbos going like no tomorrow, how many modern cars will we see on the road in 10 years time?


Personally if I was doing little mileage, had 18k to spend and wanted a change I'd be bringing in the likes of this in from the uk.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C395444

At least when you've kids/nagging wife/broke you can look back on that time and think how good it was.
And because they're so rare and the last of the handbuilt m5s you'll be making money! :cool:
Put whatever change etc that you've left over, put it towards maintenance and tax and enjoy!:)

pred racer

GreeBo wrote: »

Boot opening looks tiny on that alpha...Also I wouldn't buy a white car...
Also would reliability break my heart?

A4 does look nice, you reckon they'd take 15 for it?

The boot opening is very small.

Edit: so you should buy a sportwagon

ninty9er

There's a few 2l ones out there too.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/1.8TDCI-/36513867704879170/advert?channel=CARS

ION08

mfceiling wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/2.0-138b/37713869274051170/advert?channel=CARS

Think that should be you sorted greebo...

A bit off topic but nice reg I think to myself, off to cartell I go and wouldn't you know 10-D-2010 actually belongs to a BMW 325d M Sport.

What right has that dealer to be using that plate. I know its just for display purposes seeing as car is more than likely a UK import with unpaid VRT but if i was the genuine owner of that plate i'd be fairly pissed off at the thought of some dealer cloning my plate to advertise his cars with! /end rant

kc66

An EX GT spec Accord. Dont see many of them for sale here. I recently got a dealer from the north to bring one over from England for me at a good price. Great spec. Example

There are two on carzone, one with 166k miles for 12950, one with 65k miles for 19750. So good value from the UK even after VRT.

Edit: sorry I see you say no more than a 2l. Still not one to be disregarded for value for money. Most reliable car on the road according to some surveys.

Scortho

ION08 wrote: »

A bit off topic but nice reg I think to myself, off to cartell I go and wouldn't you know 10-D-2010 actually belongs to a BMW 325d M Sport.

What right has that dealer to be using that plate. I know its just for display purposes seeing as car is more than likely a UK import with unpaid VRT but if i was the genuine owner of that plate i'd be fairly pissed off at the thought of some dealer cloning my plate to advertise his cars with! /end rant

I'd be fairly pissed off as well.

About 20 years ago, a local auctioneer used pictures of our house as the house in the estate we were living in was on the largest site (all the houses were the same size, just different size gardens and some had 2 side entrances!). Mother didn't really mind until she got a call from her mother wondering were we selling our house as she saw it in the times and was for sale.
Ended up having to send a solicitors letter to get the auctioneer to remove the pictures from the following weeks property section. :pac:

Lex Luthor

Scortho wrote: »

I'd be fairly pissed off as well.

About 20 years ago, a local auctioneer used pictures of our house as the house in the estate we were living in was on the largest site (all the houses were the same size, just different size gardens and some had 2 side entrances!). Mother didn't really mind until she got a call from her mother wondering were we selling our house as she saw it in the times and was for sale.
Ended up having to send a solicitors letter to get the auctioneer to remove the pictures from the following weeks property section. :pac:

this happened me aswell, didnt bother with solicitors letter and said take it down or else :mad:

GreeBo

kc66 wrote: »

An EX GT spec Accord. Dont see many of them for sale here. I recently got a dealer from the north to bring one over from England for me at a good price. Great spec. Example

There are two on carzone, one with 166k miles for 12950, one with 65k miles for 19750. So good value from the UK even after VRT.

Edit: sorry I see you say no more than a 2l. Still not one to be disregarded for value for money. Most reliable car on the road according to some surveys.

Had a look at the Accord but the boot space seems to be pretty unusable with the wheel arches and suspension poking badly into the boot space?

pred racer wrote: »

The boot opening is very small.

Edit: so you should buy a sportwagon

Nah, want a regular saloon body.

bazz26

Seat Exeo:



http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/SEAT/Exeo/TDI-143/36513838270054140/

GreeBo

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S60/D3-163HP/36513845221717570/
Seems cheap, is that just because of the large mileage?
Would I be right in saying that for a newish diesel car, that mileage is almost a good thing?

ION08

GreeBo wrote: »

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S60/D3-163HP/36513845221717570/
Seems cheap, is that just because of the large mileage?
Would I be right in saying that for a newish diesel car, that mileage is almost a good thing?

130k miles on a 2011 is massive mileage. I definitely would be parting with 15 grand for something that has covered that much ground!!

GreeBo

ION08 wrote: »

130k miles on a 2011 is massive mileage. I definitely would be parting with 15 grand for something that has covered that much ground!!

I agree it is, but my point is, does that matter these days in a quality (?) built diesel?

I think I'd prefer that over a 2/3 year old diesel that had 15k on it.

What would your concern be, wear and tear on engine/clutch/gears?

Consumables would be largely consumed and may need replacing alright, but with a main dealer FSH, what would you really be worried about?

Serious, open question btw, again, I know very little about what Im taking about here!

GreeBo

bazz26 wrote: »

Seat Exeo:



http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/SEAT/Exeo/TDI-143/36513838270054140/

That does seem to be a nice car, if a little bland to look at.
HonestJohn gave it a good review and the boot is good

I'm not really worried about resale, ideally I'm expecting to keep whatever car I buy for 8-10 years, hence spending a little more to get something I wont mind being in for that long.

MuppetCheck

GreeBo wrote: »

I agree it is, but my point is, does that matter these days in a quality (?) built diesel?

I think I'd prefer that over a 2/3 year old diesel that had 15k on it.

What would your concern be, wear and tear on engine/clutch/gears?

Consumables would be largely consumed and may need replacing alright, but with a main dealer FSH, what would you really be worried about?

Serious, open question btw, again, I know very little about what Im taking about here!

Personally I'd have the one with 15k. That car is at a tipping point to being worthless/unsaleable very soon. Plus the dpf obviously had a good chance to clear out but it's one component. Wouldn't be surprised if it needed suspension components soon and despite what some people say it will never be as tight and fresh as the 15k car no matter how careful the previous owner was. It would need to be very significantly cheaper to be worth considering.

Bigus

GreeBo wrote: »

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Volvo/S60/D3-163HP/36513845221717570/
Seems cheap, is that just because of the large mileage?
Would I be right in saying that for a newish diesel car, that mileage is almost a good thing?

A couple of years ago , you wouldn't be able to buy a car like that , because they would have been all clocked back to 65 k, in pre database days. I'm sure they'd listen to an offer, of say 12 k, garage or not.

GreeBo

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Personally I'd have the one with 15k. That car is at a tipping point to being worthless/unsaleable very soon. Plus the dpf obviously had a good chance to clear out but it's one component. Wouldn't be surprised if it needed suspension components soon and despite what some people say it will never be as tight and fresh as the 15k car no matter how careful the previous owner was. It would need to be very significantly cheaper to be worth considering.

Well that mileage it was probably all motorway, I'd guess the suspension hasn't done too much work at all.

I would have thought this is what a diesel was designed to do, cruise on a motorway. At that mileage anything that was going to go wrong already should have? Other than consumables, pads, bushings etc...would that be a large expense outside of regular maintenance?

Don't mean to sound antagonistic btw, genuinely interested in the answers, will be my first car that I buy myself for myself.

Rowley Birkin QC

Just wondering why are you limiting yourself to a 2.0 when you are buying a post 2008 diesel saloon?

GreeBo

Good question I suppose.
Insurance and running costs I guess.
Currently I'm paying over 600 on tax and god knows in running costs!
You are probably going to tell me that a bigger engine won't necessarily cost more to run? Insurance is currently 350 btw, I'm 36 abd own insurance for 6 years

MuppetCheck

GreeBo wrote: »

Well that mileage it was probably all motorway, I'd guess the suspension hasn't done too much work at all.

I would have thought this is what a diesel was designed to do, cruise on a motorway. At that mileage anything that was going to go wrong already should have? Other than consumables, pads, bushings etc...would that be a large expense outside of regular maintenance?

Don't mean to sound antagonistic btw, genuinely interested in the answers, will be my first car that I buy myself for myself.

It'd probably be in great condition mechanically for the mileage alright but you really need to be getting it considerably cheaper. You will struggle too offload that car after another few years use.

A motorway is an ideal scenario to run a car in but it won't magically make the car impervious to wear and tear - it will just slow down the process. It may need discs by now, stone chips would be noticeable, the drivers seat may be more worn (although that's never too big an issue with volvos), a flywheel, air con re-gas, possibly - more about being prepared for so more unusual or larger items eating into savings really.

bazz26

Too much money on that S60 given the mileage. I have no fear of high mileage cars but they need to be priced accordingly and that S60 is not imo.

GreeBo

So do you reckon I could pitch in with a fairly low offer so?

The avensis is bullet proof, I'm not expecting the same ever again, but I really don't want something that is going to break my heart reliability wise.

ION08

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

Just wondering why are you limiting yourself to a 2.0 when you are buying a post 2008 diesel saloon?

Exactly! Post 08 I'd be looking at the likes of a V6 TDI or a Straight 6 BMW but the "Max 2 litre" mentality seems to have really been hard coded into some peoples heads by our autocratic motor tax regime!

GreeBo

I'd consider a slightly larger engine, if it's economical, most off my driving well be city style.

Don't want a BMW, they are everywhere.

ION08

GreeBo wrote: »

I'd consider a slightly larger engine, if it's economical, most off my driving well be city style.

Don't want a BMW, they are everywhere.

Straight 6 BMW's are definitely not everywhere!

As opposed to what? Audi's? Ford's? VW's? Toyota's?

Y2KBOS86

ION08 wrote: »

Straight 6 BMW's are definitely not everywhere!

Loads of 530d etc around the place, need to open eyes.

I really like the Subaru Legacy and they are not common like diesel 5 series

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-2-0-diesel-4wd/6152295

4wd and very reliable 150bhp diesel engine as well.

GreeBo

All I every morning is 5 series after 5 series.
Don't get me wrong, they are a lovely looking car, just everywhere!

colm_mcm

There's a reason everyone's buying them to be fair.

Lex Luthor

Y2KBOS86 wrote: »

Loads of 530d etc around the place, need to open eyes.

I really like the Subaru Legacy and they are not common like diesel 5 series

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/subaru-legacy-2-0-diesel-4wd/6152295

4wd and very reliable 150bhp diesel engine as well.

that legacy looks clean and is priced well, certainly worth a look

owner got the mileage wrong in his ad, has over 130,000km.

i have a 09 estate and have had no issues with it so there is nothing i can tell you to look out for

service intervals the only pain at 15000km

GreeBo

It does look pretty good, but leather seats would be a deal breaker for me.

Also, maybe it's psychological, but my initial feeling of the cabin is that it's not as classy as a BMW, Audi or Volvo...or is it just me?

Lex Luthor

GreeBo wrote: »

It does look pretty good, but leather seats would be a deal breaker for me.

Also, maybe it's psychological, but my initial feeling of the cabin is that it's not as classy as a BMW, Audi or Volvo...or is it just me?

you are right about the cabin....its functional and everything well laid out but not as classy as what you mention above

if i keep mine the long term plan is to put leather in it but the quality of the fabric on the seats is really good and is not as bad in the flesh as you se in the pics. its a lot darker than the pic

GreeBo

Lex Luthor wrote: »

you are right about the cabin....its functional and everything well laid out but not as classy as what you mention above

if i keep mine the long term plan is to put leather in it but the quality of the fabric on the seats is really good and is not as bad in the flesh as you se in the pics. its a lot darker than the pic

cheers for the honesty.

thats the only real thing putting me off the Superb, that awful green logo on the wheel and the radio would drive me batty.
The new silver and black is so much better, never understand why they didnt do it before.

Sobanek

If it's rarity you're after, then...


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/dacia-sandero-1-1-litre-petrol/5768666

Haven't seen a single one on the road in the last two months - rarity - check
Engine up to 2.0 - check
Attractive price - fits in budget - check.

GreeBo

^ I'll have to add "not a tinfoil deathtrap in a crash" to my checklist so!

toastedpickles

GreeBo wrote: »

I'd consider a slightly larger engine, if it's economical, most off my driving well be city style.

Don't want a BMW, they are everywhere.

GreeBo wrote: »

Hey, so I have about 15k but could stretch a little more to get something ideal.
Currently driving a 98 avensis that is on its last legs I reckon.

I'm looking at A4/6, S40/60 type of car, diesel around 09, no more that 2l engine. I don't do daily high mileage but would go on long spins at least once a month, assuming this is enough to avoid dpf, dmf issues...?

I want leather and as many bits and pieces inside it for comfort, so heated seats, computer, parking sensors, sat nav maybe.

I'm going to go dealer, maybe even main dealer as I don't want private or hassle dealing with some small garage if problems develop.

Any other motors you can recommend?
Also, needs to have a good sized boot for golf clubs as I'm very used to the space in the avensis.

Cheers!

Firstly I'll say why do you need a diesel if you're driving in the city, and not doing long miles only once the month? Is it just because of the fuel efficiency or that it's the done thing that everyone's getting them? You may get a diesel and be happy for the first year or so, but after that you're gona have more problems than a maths book regards to dpf issues, and after a while you'l just get sick of it and sell it on and you may as well have thrown 15/18k away
But anyways that's just my opinion and what will probably happen, but sure your money
Anyways!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/opel-insignia-elite-high-spec/6058681

2.0 diesel, lots of fun bits to play with and it's not white, all for 16k decent boot on these too

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-93-turbo-edition-ttid-180-low-tax/5306471
all the fun bits and a bit different, low on the ol tax too 18k but I'm sure you can get it for less

Also if you were to spend less and maybe broaden the horizon a bit you could be in this, if you can't fair enough but I'll throw it in anyways
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rang-rover-hse-nct-tested/6022107

NCT till august 2014, and has more toys than a toyshop, going for 9k and im sure you can get a bit more off it, and you have money left over to buy dinner

Annnnd if you can stretch to it this

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-c-class-cdi-auto-elegance/6178667

Personally I think a petrol would save you a world of bother, but theres my suggestions anyways, i hope it was a bit of help!

George Dalton

kc66 wrote: »

An EX GT spec Accord. Dont see many of them for sale here. I recently got a dealer from the north to bring one over from England for me at a good price. Great spec. Example

There are two on carzone, one with 166k miles for 12950, one with 65k miles for 19750. So good value from the UK even after VRT.

The one for €19750 is being sold by a Honda dealer so to have a valid comparison of that car to a UK car you really should be looking at prices of cars in Honda dealers in the UK.

There is another Executive on Carzone with 103,000km (64k miles) on it for €18000. When you allow for a straight deal discount on that car the price difference isn't all that much versus buying from Cargiant.

GreeBo

What problems am I going to have with a diesel though, and why just me, because of low miles?
It will be going on monthly trips that should clear out the dpf easily, is there more than that ? Does the dmf not like city driving either?

jayunot777

what is Dmf on diesel cars ?.. that range rover is lovely