What happens after we die?

King_Prawn

So here we are, living out this mysterious existence wherein all known sentient life-forms are together on this (relatively) tiny spinning ball in space. Humans are unique in that we know our time as individual entities is fundamentally limited (or so it may seem anyway).

In day to day life it appears that life is such a great mystery albeit a finite one for each of us is totally ignored by the vast majority of the populous; hordes of zombies strolling around, heads filled with crap waffling on through their mobile phones and such. Doesn't anyone else consider how utterly strange and bizarre this reality we're experiencing truly is?

Quantum physics seems to suggest that we as consciously aware beings play an integral part of the whole of manifest existence, which could mean our lives are more than just a temporary play of pure materiality we happen to have emerged in coincidentally. Perhaps we do after all have a spiritual essence which survives the death of the body.

I don't see how life could have a "purpose" though i.e. New Age ideas about humans possessing a "soul" which reincarnates in order to gain experience and grow. If there is a "God", it would by definition have to be totally complete, hence why would there be any needs for the existence of souls.

So what are your thoughts on the issue? What happens when we die?

Fr_Dougal

Mass, burial, piss-up.

BMJD

Enda shakes you down for your last pennies

Blue Crystal

Nothing

phelixoflaherty

Same as before you were born.

degrassinoel

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

Same as before you were born.

you decomposed in the womb?

Blue Crystal

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

Same as before you were born.

Or as I call it the good old days

keith16

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

Same as before you were born.

The 60s?

AGAIN???

Sky King

Quantum physics seems to suggest that we as consciously aware beings play an integral part of the whole of manifest existence, which could mean our lives are more than just a temporary play of pure materiality we happen to have emerged in coincidentally.

I read that a few times. Still... nothing.

worded

You ask such an obvious question.

The answer is ... wait the door bell is ringing, back in a second

wolfpawnat

We rot in the ground or we are scorched to ash, and we hope there are those who remember us, and for us not to be some random picture in a frame that the great grandkids don't know the name of. So live a happy and fulfilled life and hope for the best.

Mint Aero

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

Same as before you were born.

Well we all experienced an eternity of consciousness before birth so there.

demanufactured

Worms and maggots

greenflash

Dunno, I've never died.

I know when the time comes that my kids ask me, I'll tell them we fall asleep and go to live in our nicest dreams. I really couldn't bring myself to fill them full of all that heaven and hell shyte the churches still use to make people live according to their rules after 2000 years of bollocks.

Donkey Oaty

King_Prawn wrote: »

...heads filled with crap waffling on...

Hmm. There may be a suggestion of hypocrisy waiting to be exposed, but I shall hold my fire for the time being.

oconnorw

who cares

Yester

King_Prawn wrote: »

So here we are, living out this mysterious existence wherein all known sentient life-forms are together on this (relatively) tiny spinning ball in space. Humans are unique in that we know our time as individual entities is fundamentally limited (or so it may seem anyway).

In day to day life it appears that life is such a great mystery albeit a finite one for each of us is totally ignored by the vast majority of the populous; hordes of zombies strolling around, heads filled with crap waffling on through their mobile phones and such. Doesn't anyone else consider how utterly strange and bizarre this reality we're experiencing truly is?

Quantum physics seems to suggest that we as consciously aware beings play an integral part of the whole of manifest existence, which could mean our lives are more than just a temporary play of pure materiality we happen to have emerged in coincidentally. Perhaps we do after all have a spiritual essence which survives the death of the body.

I don't see how life could have a "purpose" though i.e. New Age ideas about humans possessing a "soul" which reincarnates in order to gain experience and grow. If there is a "God", it would by definition have to be totally complete, hence why would there be any needs for the existence of souls.

So what are your thoughts on the issue? What happens when we die?

No idea. But I like you op.

irish bloke

After 2 generations your existence is pretty much forgotten. Make your mark now....

bobwilliams

Blue Crystal wrote: »

Nothing

agree, do humans deserve an after life more than say a rat or a fly,me thinks not.

keith16

greenflash wrote: »

Dunno, I've never died.

I know when the time comes that my kids ask me, I'll tell them we fall asleep and go to live in our nicest dreams. I really couldn't bring myself to fill them full of all that heaven and hell shyte the churches still use to make people live according to their rules after 2000 years of bollocks.

But fill them with shyte nonetheless?

FairytaleGirl

I have actually thought this out..

I think our soul all has certain lessons to learn before we can get to heaven (or whichever afterlife you believe in) and until those lessons are learned we are reincarnated over and over. There are loads and loads of stories about young kids having vivid memories of previous lives etc

I think also that people taken away from us younger, are on their last life and finished learning their lessons and were ready for the afterlife.

timthumbni

wolfpawnat wrote: »

We rot in the ground or we are scorched to ash, and we hope there are those who remember us, and for us not to be some random picture in a frame that the great grandkids don't know the name of. So live a happy and fulfilled life and hope for the best.

As much as I would like th think my Christian mates are correct and we end up living in some fluffy cloud existence up in heaven it's not very likely now is it?

It's more than probable that worms and maggots will be the outcome.

I hope I'm wrong. I pray to god that I'm wrong. (As an atheist lol)

I think its best to enjoy the very short time you have on earth.

Wattle

Dunno but I'd like to go here....

kneemos

Nobody knows despite so many being adamant one way or the other.
Science would suggest the bodies energy has to go somewhere.

irish_goat

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

I think our soul all has certain lessons to learn before we can get to heaven (or whichever afterlife you believe in) and until those lessons are learned we are reincarnated over and over. There are loads and loads of stories about young kids having vivid memories of previous lives etc

What's a soul?

irish bloke

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

I think also that people taken away from us younger, are on their last life and finished learning their lessons and were ready for the afterlife.

I hope me or no one close to me learns their lesson....

theblaqueguy

Nothing happens after we die.
Thats it we cease to exist because we are no longer living its over when we die and there is no life after death!

irish bloke

irish_goat wrote: »

What's a soul?

It's a fish

Artful_Badger

Our brains have the ability to be aware of its own operation and that awareness is existence. When you die you're brain ceases to function so there is nothing to be aware of and thus no more existence.

irish bloke

theblaqueguy wrote: »

Nothing happens after we die.
Thats it we cease to exist because we are no longer living its over when we die and there is no life after death!

It's not nice to think that but I reckon your right

greedygoblin

irish bloke wrote: »

It's a fish

I thought it was a part of a shoe...

King_Prawn

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

I have actually thought this out..

I think our soul all has certain lessons to learn before we can get to heaven (or whichever afterlife you believe in) and until those lessons are learned we are reincarnated over and over. There are loads and loads of stories about young kids having vivid memories of previous lives etc

I think also that people taken away from us younger, are on their last life and finished learning their lessons and were ready for the afterlife.

Yeah but from a practical perspective, why not just have every soul instantly progress to heaven in the very first instance? In other words, why oh why the bother of having so many souls spend an immense amount of time in this mundane-at-best, miserly-at-worst ****E-hole we call planet earth?

wolfpawnat

timthumbni wrote: »

As much as I would like th think my Christian mates are correct and we end up living in some fluffy cloud existence up in heaven it's not very likely now is it?

It's more than probable that worms and maggots will be the outcome.

I hope I'm wrong. I pray to god that I'm wrong. (As an atheist lol)

I think its best to enjoy the very short time you have on earth.

I do not believe in a higher power, but I do hope there is something after this, that I will be with my children for all eternity, and all the other people I have loved/love and lost/will lose. But I doubt there is, so I plan on just enjoying them while I am here.

FairytaleGirl

irish_goat wrote: »

What's a soul?

The thing within us that makes us more than flesh and bones and firing neurons. I call it a soul, call it what you wish!

theblaqueguy

irish bloke wrote: »

It's not nice to think that but I reckon your right

I know you've got to be realistic about it.
In an ideal world I'd like to be reincarnated as an animal like a bird or something like that rather than end up in heaven or hell or wherever people think we end up after we die

beano345

"If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you"

nothingness I would say

Stinicker

Science teaches us that it is impossible to destroy energy, I do believe in an afterlife but am not very religious also as a result I am not afraid of death, it is inevitable and when the time comes it has to happen. There is an energy and life-force which continues on and really we know so very little about this world and our existence and meaning of life that is highly ignorant to discount the idea of an afterlife. Reincarnation is another possibility and I believe I may have lived before as an Indian servant during the British Maharaja in the 19th Century.

Science is already starting to raise the possibility of proof of the afterlife,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2503370/Quantum-physics-proves-IS-afterlife-claims-scientist.html

Busted Flat.

King_Prawn wrote: »

So here we are, living out this mysterious existence wherein all known sentient life-forms are together on this (relatively) tiny spinning ball in space. Humans are unique in that we know our time as individual entities is fundamentally limited (or so it may seem anyway).

In day to day life it appears that life is such a great mystery albeit a finite one for each of us is totally ignored by the vast majority of the populous; hordes of zombies strolling around, heads filled with crap waffling on through their mobile phones and such. Doesn't anyone else consider how utterly strange and bizarre this reality we're experiencing truly is?

Quantum physics seems to suggest that we as consciously aware beings play an integral part of the whole of manifest existence, which could mean our lives are more than just a temporary play of pure materiality we happen to have emerged in coincidentally. Perhaps we do after all have a spiritual essence which survives the death of the body.

I don't see how life could have a "purpose" though i.e. New Age ideas about humans possessing a "soul" which reincarnates in order to gain experience and grow. If there is a "God", it would by definition have to be totally complete, hence why would there be any needs for the existence of souls.

So what are your thoughts on the issue? What happens when we die?

Could you not put in your poll, just fookin dead.

King_Prawn

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Our brains have the ability to be aware of its own operation and that awareness is existence. When you die you're brain ceases to function so there is nothing to be aware of and thus no more existence.

The nature of the human mind is a total mystery in reality and that cannot be understated in relation to this discussion. Even without this fact what you're suggesting may be the real outcome however the aforementioned fact is undeniable.

FairytaleGirl

King_Prawn wrote: »

Yeah but from a practical perspective, why not just have every soul instantly progress to heaven in the very first instance? In other words, why oh why the bother of having so many souls spend an immense amount of time in this mundane-at-best, miserly-at-worst ****E-hole we call planet earth?

Someones on their first life..

It depends on our individual way of thinking I suppose. When your at peace with the world, injustices and good things, when you realise certain things, I dont know..!

They say anxious/nervous people are on their first time on earth and havent quite figured things out. Hence a nervous nature or whatever, maybe the total opposite to that?

timthumbni

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I do not believe in a higher power, but I do hope there is something after this, that I will be with my children for all eternity, and all the other people I have loved/love and lost/will lose. But I doubt there is, so I pan on jus enjoying them while I am here.

As an atheist I agree. I really , really hope I'm wrong on this matter and I forever be able to be with my kids, talk to my father again etc.

It's not likely at all. Houdini apparently gave his wife a secret password and told her to go to these clairvoyants etc. nothing ever came though.

If fecking Houdini couldn't break through the barrier of death it suggests to me that we are all fecked.

Love your ethos about enjoying things whilst you are here. Me too!!,

King_Prawn

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I do not believe in a higher power, but I do hope there is something after this, that I will be with my children for all eternity, and all the other people I have loved/love and lost/will lose. But I doubt there is, so I plan on just enjoying them while I am here.

I'm totally open-minded about this subject, but in my view whatever lies beyond death would have to be impersonal, meaning our loved ones sadly were just temporary bags of flesh we became attached to and had nothing to do with our vital essence if such a thing really exists.

EoghanConway

I don't know but I hope there'll be sandwiches.

Burky126

We are absorbed into a mass memory bank called the Akashic record (which is a bit like space internet) where our memories can be tapped into and lived through other people's eyes in an eternal loop of spiritual masturbation.

Who is to say that all of existence is living through someone elses memories and experiences and that we've already died at some point?

That or....you die and that it.You cease to be forever.

King_Prawn

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

Someones on their first life..

It depends on our individual way of thinking I suppose. When your at peace with the world, injustices and good things, when you realise certain things, I dont know..!

They say anxious/nervous people are on their first time on earth and havent quite figured things out. Hence a nervous nature or whatever, maybe the total opposite to that?

An old soul with so many life-times and yet you still never learned to use apostrophes..

wolfpawnat

King_Prawn wrote: »

I'm totally open-minded about this subject, but in my view whatever lies beyond death would have to be impersonal, meaning our loved ones sadly were just temporary bags of flesh we became attached to and had nothing to do with our vital essence if such a thing really exists.

I think it's the need to believe in more than just nothingness that most people grasp to. I am more than aware there is probably nothing after this, but I can live in hope.

Artful_Badger

King_Prawn wrote: »

The nature of the human mind is a total mystery in reality and that cannot be understated in relation to this discussion. Even without this fact what you're suggesting may be the real outcome however the aforementioned fact is undeniable.

The nature of the mind is not a total mystery. Thought, emotion, memory etc have all been linked with the physical parts of the brain. Activity can be measured and correlated with what a person is thinking and feeling as well as changes in memory, behavior and cognitive thought seen when parts of the brain are damaged.

What I'm suggesting is the only logical conclusion based on what we know.

efb

Fibre Optic Broadband - well that's my idea of heaven...

Manach

Personally as a Catholic, I expect quite a long time in spent in Purgatory - repenting over some of my less benign posts on boards.

Minnie1990

I think everything we're told by the church and whatnot is a load of highfalutin' crap. Personally I think people clutch onto these ideas far too much and forget how to enjoy themselves by doing what the love to do. Regardless of whether there is a 'god' or a 'heaven/hell', in the end it doesn't matter. We'll be dead, we won't realise. What really grinds my gears is the elderly spending their last years stuck in churches 'saving themselves' when they should be out enjoying themselves and perhaps doing the church thing in moderation if that's what they want.

Donkey Oaty

Stinicker wrote: »

I believe I may have lived before as an Indian servant during the British Maharaja in the 19th Century.

Do tell us more.