Aldi decision for Athy

kam3qnwvebf4jh

Well did anyone hear if Aldi got permission ? I looked at the application online but no update.

ffocused

it was on last weeks forthcoming decisions list with a decision due yesterday 10th December. It should be published on this Fridays list. Fingers crossed!!!

rameire

further info requested, letter dated yesterday.
it is on the online planning system.

nimbys everywhere.
if this thing ever gets off the ground Ill be surprised.

kam3qnwvebf4jh

Absolutely gutted to hear this. I shop at Lidl the whole time but I consider Aldi a step up in terms of choice and quality.

Cork Skate

Where was the site for this?

brian_t

Cork Skate wrote: »

Where was the site for this?

http://webgis.kildarecoco.ie/PlanningEnquiry/

The Planning Number is 13300025

Cork Skate

brian_t wrote: »

http://webgis.kildarecoco.ie/PlanningEnquiry/

The Planning Number is 13300025

Fair play for that .... is it here?

kam3qnwvebf4jh

Yep thats it. The old Bachelors Peas factory.

eireannBEAR

Hi guys any more news on this? the old office building up the road from it is getting a make over.

rameire

checked the details last night for aldi and tesco on the planning system and could see no update.

as for lidl, they have gone back to planning to counter the extra requirements for the planning being approved

eireannBEAR

rameire wrote: »

checked the details last night for aldi and tesco on the planning system and could see no update.

as for lidl, they have gone back to planning to counter the extra requirements for the planning being approved

Aldi put up a new back dated planning permission sign less than a month ago but its gone again. FFS will they just give it the green light,that garage on the monasterevin road is reopening as londis.

Cork Skate

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Hi guys any more news on this? the old office building up the road from it is getting a make over.

Saw some movement there alright but is it a make over though?

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Aldi put up a new back dated planning permission sign less than a month ago but its gone again. FFS will they just give it the green light,that garage on the monasterevin road is reopening as londis.

Any idea on when garage will reopen? Will it still be a garage as well?

rameire

File 13/300018
The Tesco file.
has been granted as of 26th May.

The development will consist of the demolition of existing
structures on site and the development of a single level
retail store with a gross floor area of c.3,575sq.m.with
subsidiary alcohol sales, all external signage (including
illuminated elevational and freestanding signage),
ancillary administration offices, staff facilities, ancillary
plant, ESB substation(c. 28.8sq.m) , 205 no. car parking
spaces to be provided at grade and a service yard. The
proposal also provides for cycle stands, recycling
facilities, new site access arrangements, upgrades and
realignments to the access road to Woodstock Industrial
Estate and Upper William Street (N78) including
signalised junction, the construction of a new 450mm
storm water sewer along Upper William Street (N78) to
Bennett’s Bridge and all ancillary landscaping( including
pedestrian access points), site development works and
site services
Woodstock South
Athy
Co Kildare

rameire

Aldi decision due 3/6/14

rente

rameire wrote: »

File 13/300018
The Tesco file.
has been granted as of 26th May.

When they start to work on it

rameire

Hopefully within the next 5 years.
I would assume they will start building in the next year.

blackbird98

I think ALDI got their permission!!

rameire

you are correct, was granted on 28th may

Cork Skate

rameire wrote: »

File 13/300018
The Tesco file.
has been granted as of 26th May.

Where is Bennets Bridge, on Rockfield Road or the one by Robert Redmonds? The new access, is that a bridge from the site to St Dominics Park?

Is there really a market for ...

1. Perrys Supermarket
2. Supervalu Pettitts
3. Supervalu éile
4. Lidl
5. Aldi
6. Tesco

I suppose Tesco is the only one on that side of the canal and anyone coming in from Ballylinan etc. wont have to tackle the traffic any more.

rameire

Bennetsbridge is a mile out the Kilkenny road, its not really a bridge, it is where Loughmans DOE Garage is.

The only access will be from a realigned re-engineered William Street which is the industrial estate and onto the N78 Kilkenny Road.

I for one think there is a market for All different Brands.
it will stop people like me leaving the town to do the shopping.

Pablod

rameire wrote: »

I for one think there is a market for All different Brands.
it will stop people like me leaving the town to do the shopping.

Very true, in my case having Aldi & Tesco will stop us travelling to Carlow/Naas for shopping now.

Supervalue will still do well, I'll still use Supervalue for certain items.

Happy Days

Yawns

Glad to see some progress on these. I most likely won't go near the Tesco but it will mean I won't need to go to Carlow, Portlaoise or Naas for shopping. It's be split between Aldi, Lidl and SV.

Pocoyo

blackbird98 wrote: »

I think ALDI got their permission!!

Hey hello when is this from?? aldi removed the planning permission signs twice now i dont think they are coming.

L1011

Pocoyo wrote: »

Hey hello when is this from?? aldi removed the planning permission signs twice now i dont think they are coming.

Kildare County Council planning system. Next to impossible to link to a specific file.

Pocoyo

Kildare County Council
P L A N N I N G A P P L I C A T I O N S
PLANNING APPLICATIONS GRANTED FROM 28/05/2014 TO 03/06/2014
in deciding a planning application the planning authority, in accordance with section 34(3) of the Act, has had regard to submissions or
observations recieved in accordance with these Regulations;
The use of the personal details of planning applicants, including for marketing purposes, maybe unlawful under the Data Protection
Acts 1988 - 2003 and may result in action by the Data Protection Commissioner, against the sender, including prosecution.
APPLICANTS NAME
APP.
TYPE
DATE
RECEIVED DEVELOPMENT DESCRIPTION AND LOCATION
TIME : 08:47:46 PAGE : 3
M.O.
DATE
M.O.
NUMBER
Aldi Stores Ireland Limited P 16/10/2013 the demolition of all existing structures (including derelict
detached house) on the site, and the construction of a
single storey discount foodstore (to include off licence
use) with a gross floor area of 1,761sqm (net retail area
1,254sqm). The development includes the provision of a
new landscaped public pedestrian area to the front of the
site bounding Monasterevin Road, and the construction of
a new pedestrian access (to include a ramp and steps)
and a vehicular access from Monasterevin Road. The
development also includes the erection of one free
standing double sided internally illuminated sign with one
double sided opening hours sign at low level on a double
pole adjacent to the proposed new vehicular entrance to
the site, one single sided internally illuminated gable sign
on the south west gable, one single sided entrance door
sign and 4 single sided display signs on shop front
windows. The proposed development will be served by
134 No. car parking spaces and 15 No. bicycle spaces.
The proposed development includes refurbishment of
existing substation (15 sq. metres), all landscaping,
revised boundary treatment including 2.1 metre
boundary wall to the north east and east, engineering
and site development works on the 0.976 hectare site
Cois na Habhainn and the former Bachelor's Pea Factory
Monasterevin Road
Rathstewart
Athy, Co. Kildare.

On the granted section of kildarecoco.ie please tell me this cant be appealed again??

brian_t

Pocoyo wrote: »

please tell me this cant be appealed again??

Technically speaking it could be appealed to An Bord Pleanála if done before the end of this week.

(That's within 4 weeks of the date the permission was granted which was 26th May)

http://www.pleanala.ie/guide/appeal_guide.htm

Pocoyo

brian_t wrote: »

Technically speaking it could be appealed to An Bord Pleanála if done before the end of this week.

(That's within 4 weeks of the date the permission was granted which was 26th May)

http://www.pleanala.ie/guide/appeal_guide.htm

Ah ffs thats mental it was already rejected on appeal twice surely there must be a cut off point?

L1011

Pocoyo wrote: »

Ah ffs thats mental it was already rejected on appeal twice surely there must be a cut off point?

No, each application is its own entity in that regard.

Cork Skate

Pocoyo wrote: »

Ah ffs thats mental it was already rejected on appeal twice surely there must be a cut off point?

Who appealed do you know?

Pocoyo

Cork Skate wrote: »

Who appealed do you know?

pettits perry's shaws and a couple more. They formed an appeal group to block aldi.

Cork Skate

Pocoyo wrote: »

pettits perry's shaws and a couple more. They formed an appeal group to block aldi.

Jebus, that is bad, real small time mentality. There more business the business the town can draw in the better it will be for everyone. Short sighted.

Pocoyo

Cork Skate wrote: »

Jebus, that is bad, real small time mentality. There more business the business the town can draw in the better it will be for everyone. Short sighted.

True its border line evil for such an under employed developed town, lets lose 50 to 100 guaranteed jobs just because the arrival of these shops ''may'' cause the loss of 6 jobs. madness.

rameire

I contacted Aldi regarding the Athy store,
They hope to have the premises Open for business in Summer 2015.

woo hoo.

Pocoyo

rameire wrote: »

I contacted Aldi regarding the Athy store,
They hope to have the premises Open for business in Summer 2015.

woo hoo.

They usually throw them up,Why the wait....I assume the pea factory contains asbestos or something. :pac:

rameire

The Supervalu opposite the post office in Athy is closing for good.
It will close its doors at 6pm on monday for good.

Pocoyo

rameire wrote: »

The Supervalu opposite the post office in Athy is closing for good.
It will close its doors at 6pm on monday for good.

I never ever shop there but thats a shame about the jobs. Fair play to perry's though they have done a good job staying open.

Cork Skate

rameire wrote: »

The Supervalu opposite the post office in Athy is closing for good.
It will close its doors at 6pm on monday for good.

Pocoyo wrote: »

I never ever shop there but thats a shame about the jobs. Fair play to perry's though they have done a good job staying open.

I'd nearly have preferred Supervalu to stay open to be honest, they have a better range than Perrys. Perrys always strikes me as a shop from the 80's. No choice, just the bare essentials.

Pocoyo

Cork Skate wrote: »

I'd nearly have preferred Supervalu to stay open to be honest, they have a better range than Perrys. Perrys always strikes me as a shop from the 80's. No choice, just the bare essentials.

Hold on a minute now...perrys is amazeballs.

Next time your in have a good look at the freezer section,Oh and heres a tip there is a brand of fish fingers call xsell you get like 30 for 2e try them they are like fresh cod out of the chippy,pure flakey fish in batter,best quality fish fingers i have ever had.

Buy anything from that range that company buys excess production from youngs/birds eye etc and sells it on very cheap.

Cork Skate

Pocoyo wrote: »

Hold on a minute now...perrys is amazeballs.

Next time your in have a good look at the freezer section,Oh and heres a tip there is a brand of fish fingers call xsell you get like 30 for 2e try them they are like fresh cod out of the chippy,pure flakey fish in batter,best quality fish fingers i have ever had.

Buy anything from that range that company buys excess production from youngs/birds eye etc and sells it on very cheap.

Well I'll just have to go check it out now so !!

Emme

Pocoyo wrote: »

Hold on a minute now...perrys is amazeballs.

Aengus O'Snodaigh would love it so

Pocoyo

Athy people are any of you aware of the existence of a snooker hall or arcade that also contains a table tennis table?

rameire

RGDATA,
appealed again, in relation to the size, the location, the fact that it will cause traffic, also the road layout, also the bats, and that the site should be for neighbourhood use, and its too boxy.

Aldi
have also appealed against condition 26 the amount of car parking spaces, 41 traffic signals, 42 the traffic junction and layout.

decision to be made I believe in October.

L1011

Its amazing how concerned people become about bats when there's a chance they might have to cut their profit margins in this country...

brian_t

Main appeal details here : http://idocsweb.kildarecoco.ie/iDocsWeb/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=1761362&format=djvu

Cork Skate

Pocoyo wrote: »

Athy people are any of you aware of the existence of a snooker hall or arcade that also contains a table tennis table?

Only one that I know of is in Carlow, next to Dunnes Stores, across from the Dome. Has Table Tennis, Snooker and Pool.

MYOB wrote: »

Its amazing how concerned people become about bats when there's a chance they might have to cut their profit margins in this country...

Ridiculous in the extreme being honest. Bats, in all fairness they are clutching at straws if that's what they are coming out with. Can people counter that objection? There has to be something the other 98% of people in the town who want it can do?

brian_t

Cork Skate wrote: »

Can people counter that objection?

12. Can I make my views known to the Board without appealing?
Where an appeal has already been made, any person other than a party to the appeal can become an “observer” and make submissions or observations on the appeal. A copy of the appeal can be seen at the planning authority’s office. The time limit for such submissions or observations is- (a) four weeks beginning on the day of receipt of the appeal by the Board (or the last appeal where more than one is made) or, (b) in a case where an Environmental Impact Statement has been requested and received by the Board, four weeks beginning on the date of publication of notice of same or, (c) where the Board requested the applicant to publish a further site or newspaper notice, four weeks beginning on the date of publication of same. So, in the case of (a) above, if an appeal is received on Wednesday 2nd of a month, the last day for receipt of submissions or observations on the appeal by an “observer” is Tuesday 29th (not Wednesday 30th) of the same month. The Board’s website has a calendar facility to assist in calculating the last day for making a submission / observation.

http://www.pleanala.ie/guide/appeal_guide.htm

By my calculations (and I may very well be wrong) the last date for submissions is 17th July 2014

Cork Skate

brian_t wrote: »

http://www.pleanala.ie/guide/appeal_guide.htm

By my calculations (and I may very well be wrong) the last date for submissions is 17th July 2014

So can we see if there are objections in this time round? Obviously there needs to be an objection in to be able to appeal against something. Or can we just appeal expressing the need for the development?

brian_t

Cork Skate wrote: »

So can we see if there are objections in this time round? Obviously there needs to be an objection in to be able to appeal against something. Or can we just appeal expressing the need for the development?

Go to http://webgis.kildarecoco.ie/PlanningEnquiry/

search for file number - 13300025

Click on the 'Documents' tab

You can then read the 'Appeal Details' at the bottom of the list of documents.

Those are the appeal details that An Bord Pleanála are acting upon.

The An Bord Pleanala page for this case is here http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/243512.htm

delahuntv

Only appeal is from RGDATA (who appeal every aldi/lidl application) and Martin McEvoy who is the promoter of the supermarket site on the Kilkenny side of the town.

Pocoyo

Hi guys it seems we are not the only ones disgusted by this a facebook page has been started!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bringing-New-Business-To-Athy/731364280262787?notif_t=fbpage_fan_invite

Cork Skate

Pocoyo wrote: »

Hi guys it seems we are not the only ones disgusted by this a facebook page has been started!!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bringing-New-Business-To-Athy/731364280262787?notif_t=fbpage_fan_invite

Absolutely love this, need to spread the word around though and get people liking and more importantly get active.