Stolen from locked boot

Mo60

I'm not sure if this has been posted before but thought I would make people aware of the following.

Friend of mine was parked in a supermarket car park today and unloaded her shopping into the boot of her car and also left her bag in the boot. When shut, the boot cannot be unlocked from the outside so therefore she did not lock the car. She only went to return the trolley, a matter of about 30 seconds, and on returning to the car found someone had opened the back door, let down the seat and took her bag out of the boot. The thief had obviously done this before because he had parked right next to her car, with engine running, and when she returned he jumped back in his car and sat on the bag so that she could not get hold of it and sped off.

I am posting this to make others aware that even if the boot is locked, items are not safe.

Has anyone else heard of this happening before?

A-Trak

****ty thing to experience!
Where abouts did this happen?

Anjobe

GarIT wrote: »

This was a complete you deserved it moment, you should never leave your car unlocked and unattended.

Come on, no one deserves to be a victim of crime!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

GarIT wrote: »

This was a complete you deserved it moment, you should never leave your car unlocked and unattended.

Glad the scumbag got his "deserved" Christmas present then

GarIT

Anjobe wrote: »

Come on, no one deserves to be a victim of crime!

I didn't mean it like that, I meant that everyone knows you don't leave you car unlocked even for a min. They obviously didn't deserved to be robbed but it happened out of stupidity rather than anything else.

Mo60

GarIT wrote: »

This was a complete you deserved it moment, you should never leave your car unlocked and unattended.

Thanlk you for your sympathy :rolleyes:

As explained, boot was locked. Must be great to be so perfect as yourself.

corktina

A cute thief, I wouldn't have thought of someone letting down the seat to get in the boot.

GarIT

Mo60 wrote: »

Thanlk you for your sympathy :rolleyes:

As explained, boot was locked. Must be great to be so perfect as yourself.

Locking your car when you walk away from it has nothing to do with being perfect. It's just stupid to leave it unlocked. Your car can be robbed in under 60 seconds if the criminal is good enough at it.

I had assumed this was a discussion rather than fishing for simpathy.

corkgsxr

Im a tradesmen and even if im working near the van its still locked
Too easy to grab and run

Bohrio

I have to agree but I always lock the car even if I am just going to be beside the car...

Unfortunately the world is full of scumbags

djimi

You hear stories of similar happening at petrol stations. Most cars have remote locking at this stage; people really need to get into the habit of just clicking the button when walking away from the car, even for a minute.

Bohrio

djimi wrote: »

You hear stories of similar happening at petrol stations. Most cars have remote locking at this stage; people really need to get into the habit of just clicking the button when walking away from the car, even for a minute.

Its the same as remembering to lock your car as soon as you start driving it...

littleblackDRS

Honestly though, you shouldn't need to be reminded to lock your car, thieves would jump at the chance to take advantage of this kind of naivety. She might think twice about it, even if its "only for a minute" next time.

djimi

Bohrio wrote: »

Its the same as remembering to lock your car as soon as you start driving it...

I have a Clifford system to do that for me :pac:

Zen 2nd

Should always lock your car if you are leaving it in a public place. Regardless of how long you'll be away from it.

The newest thing is criminals picking up your unlock signal from your car keys. They can basically follow you home and once you are inside, walk up to your car, unlock it and take what they want.

sogood

Further to a recent post of mine on the subject of car thieves, I have to admit to being very, very careful. I hit the remote as a matter of form whenever I walk away from the car. If I'm not in it, then it's locked! Sympathies to the OP and I imagine a lesson learned the hard way is rarely forgotten.

My doors also auto lock when I put it into Drive and that suits me just fine.

Most scumbag thieves are opportunists, so don't give them the opportunity.

Mo60

GarIT wrote: »

Locking your car when you walk away from it has nothing to do with being perfect. It's just stupid to leave it unlocked. Your car can be robbed in under 60 seconds if the criminal is good enough at it.

I had assumed this was a discussion rather than fishing for simpathy.

I appreciate your add on, obviously took you a little while to think of something else sensible to say. You are obviously perfect because you have NEVER left your car unlocked in whatever circumstances.

I posted this thread because I'm sure many people would also have thought that whatever was in the boot would have been secure for such a short period of time. I was just trying to make people aware.

Grolschevik

Which car is it where you can't unlock the boot from the outside?

littleblackDRS

Mo60 wrote: »

I posted this thread because I'm sure many people would also have thought that whatever was in the boot would have been secure for such a short period of time. I was just trying to make people aware.

But she did leave the rest of her car unlocked? That's like saying "I thought it was ok to leave my house windows open, because the front door is locked." It really was silliness on her part.

pippip

Grolschevik wrote: »

Which car is it where you can't unlock the boot from the outside?

My dads saab 95 you cant.

Guy:Incognito

Zen 2nd wrote: »

The newest thing is criminals picking up your unlock signal from your car keys. They can basically follow you home and once you are inside, walk up to your car, unlock it and take what they want.

Sounds like the newest thing to post on facebook while likeing a pic of a pallet of ps4s that have to be given away for free because the seal is broken.

Cars use rolling codes. The code changes every time the the car locks/unlocks.

GarIT

Mo60 wrote: »

I appreciate your add on, obviously took you a little while to think of something else sensible to say. You are obviously perfect because you have NEVER left your car unlocked in whatever circumstances.

I posted this thread because I'm sure many people would also have thought that whatever was in the boot would have been secure for such a short period of time. I was just trying to make people aware.

I'll ignore your very personal insults and just stick to discussion of the topic only. I don't think most people would think that, I'm sure most people would actually know to lock their car when they walk away from it. It's not 1970 anymore and some people will do anything to get a bit of money or whatever they are looking for.

Anan1

Mo60 wrote: »

I appreciate your add on, obviously took you a little while to think of something else sensible to say. You are obviously perfect because you have NEVER left your car unlocked in whatever circumstances.

I posted this thread because I'm sure many people would also have thought that whatever was in the boot would have been secure for such a short period of time. I was just trying to make people aware.

I'm confused. Is the only lesson here not to leave the car unlocked and unattended, or is there something else?

Grolschevik

pippip wrote: »

My dads saab 95 you cant.

Must be a right pain at times.

pippip

Grolschevik wrote: »

Must be a right pain at times.

It is at times but there is a boot release on the keyfob.
Having said that in the case of the op's story all the thief would have had to do on the saab is open the drivers door and press the boot button, probably quicker than reaching through a boot from the back seat. Although they would have been seen quicker.

Mo60

pippip wrote: »

It is at times but there is a boot release on the keyfob.
Having said that in the case of the op's story all the thief would have had to do on the saab is open the drivers door and press the boot button, probably quicker than reaching through a boot from the back seat. Although they would have been seen quicker.

I appreciate what you are saying but would like to point out that the trolly park was nearby and the person thought, wrongly as it turned out, that
the boot would be secure in the short time it took to return the trolly.

As said previously, I only posted to make people aware when they have this type of car to be more careful. Unfortunately, I did not realise that some people appear never to make mistakes. I think the person concerned has learned by their mistake.

Mo60

littleblackDRS wrote: »

But she did leave the rest of her car unlocked? That's like saying "I thought it was ok to leave my house windows open, because the front door is locked." It really was silliness on her part.

Actually it could have been a blessing, because she was told that the thief was obviously watching her and if the car was locked the thief could have broken a window to gain entry.

Again, I was only pointing out that the person thought the boot was secure.

littleblackDRS

Mo60 wrote: »

Unfortunately, I did not realise that some people appear never to make mistakes.

There is making mistakes (i.e. forgetting to lock the doors) and there's irresponsibility (purposefully leaving the doors unlocked). Nobody here is "perfect", they just aren't putting themselves in a position where this could happen. And its not like it can only happen with one kind of car, you can access the boot from the backseat in a lot of cars, or you can open the boot from the driver's side, as someone else mentioned. So leaving your doors unlocked and assuming the boot is secure really is a stupid thing to do.

Mo60

GarIT wrote: »

I'll ignore your very personal insults and just stick to discussion of the topic only.

This, from someone who in effect said the person was stupid in leaving their car unlocked even though they mistakingly thought their boot was secure. Was this not a personal insult?

mfceiling

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No Pants

Mo60 wrote: »

when she returned he jumped back in his car and sat on the bag so that she could not get hold of it and sped off.

Did she at least get the registration of the car and call the guards?

GarIT

Mo60 wrote: »

This, from someone who in effect said the person was stupid in leaving their car unlocked even though they mistakingly thought their boot was secure. Was this not a personal insult?

It wasn't an insult it was an observation. I never called anyone stupid, I said it was a stupid thing to do. I of course believe it is stupid to leave a car unlocked and it is also stupid to think a boot is secure when there are at least two fairly obvious ways to get into it. It was not a personal insult. What you said was clearly directed at me.

biko

Guys, please use a more civil tone. It's but a moment's work to get robbed like this and I'm sure the person in question is kicking themselves already

Here is a article on similar crime, "sliders" (yes, daily mail lol)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2386201/Women-warned-lookout-sliders--thieves-operating-gas-stations-steal-bag-youre-pump.html

Stheno

Grolschevik wrote: »

Which car is it where you can't unlock the boot from the outside?

My OHs e class boot won't unlock apart from with the fob, or controls inside on the centre console.

There was a chap in a CL500 today in front of me at the petrol station.

He left his car unlocked and the front door open while he went in to pay for petrol!

pred racer

Grolschevik wrote: »

Which car is it where you can't unlock the boot from the outside?

I can set mine to only open from the fob.

Edit: sorry, alfa 159

Mo60

No Pants wrote: »

Did she at least get the registration of the car and call the guards?

Someone else in car park got part registration and make/model of car. Guards were called and were there very quickly and were very helpful. Unfortunately as the supermarket is on major road, thief could have gone in any direction.

In answer to a poster's earlier question this happened in a fairly quiet midlands town in an almost empty car park, which is why you would not expect something like this to happen. My friend now realises that she made a mistake. But, having lived in this area for a long time, had a false sense of security.

Mo60

biko wrote: »

Here is a article on similar crime, "sliders" (yes, daily mail lol)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2386201/Women-warned-lookout-sliders--thieves-operating-gas-stations-steal-bag-youre-pump.html

My friend has looked at this and says that this is similar to what happened to her. On walking back to car she could not see anything as thief was crouched down. It was only when she got close up she realised what was happening.

On reflection she feels lucky, it could have ended up a lot worse. She did make a grab for her bag but had to let go in case she was dragged under the car or punched by the thief as he threatened.

Zen 2nd

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Sounds like the newest thing to post on facebook while likeing a pic of a pallet of ps4s that have to be given away for free because the seal is broken.

Cars use rolling codes. The code changes every time the the car locks/unlocks.

No security system is ever 100% fullproof. A bit of googling has shown that it is possible to break certain remote keyless entry systems that use rolling codes.

No Pants

Mo60 wrote: »

Someone else in car park got part registration and make/model of car. Guards were called and were there very quickly and were very helpful. Unfortunately as the supermarket is on major road, thief could have gone in any direction.

If they have the registration, they can tell who the owner is and maybe call to their house, seize the car if it's suspected of being used in a crime.

ardle1

Why is the victim being called stupid, talk about 'rubbing salt in the wound'... Total lack off respect I say.

Anan1

ardle1 wrote: »

Why is the victim being called stupid, talk about 'rubbing salt in the wound'... Total lack off respect I say.

Isn't the whole point of this to warn others not to make the same mistake themselves? Of course the victim did a stupid thing, to deny that is to deny that something can be learned from it.

Mo60

Anan1 wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of this to warn others not to make the same mistake themselves? Of course the victim did a stupid thing, to deny that is to deny that something can be learned from it.

I did post originally to warn others, but did not realise some people could be so ignorant in posting derogatory remarks. I wonder if they would be as brave in making these comments face to face, rather than on the internet?

I hope in future they, or someone close to them, gets more sympathy when they make a mistake. After all, we all make mistakes at some time or other.

littleblackDRS

Mo60 wrote: »

I did post originally to warn others, but did not realise some people could be so ignorant in posting derogatory remarks. I wonder if they would be as brave in making these comments face to face, rather than on the internet?

I hope in future they, or someone close to them, gets more sympathy when they make a mistake. After all, we all make mistakes at some time or other.

But you state that this post was to warn others? So why the need for sympathy? Nearly everyone agrees that you shouldn't need a reminder to lock your car, that's just plain and simple common sense. If common sense you lack, then little sympathy you shall receive.

If the person in question had been robbed through no fault of their own, then they probably would have received a great deal more sympathy. But they put themselves in the position where this could happen, so why do they deserve sympathy?

Even if it was my own mother that this happened to, I'd still say it was just her being stupid, and a bit of common sense would have prevented the whole episode.

djimi

In defense of the OP, they didnt leave the bag sitting on the passenger seat in fairness. Someone going into your car and dropping the back seats to get access to the boot is not something that I would have thought that many would be brazen enough to try in broad daylight when the owner is only feet from the car. This thread is a useful warning never to take anything for granted when it comes to these scumbags.

whomitconcerns

djimi wrote: »

In defense of the OP, they didnt leave the bag sitting on the passenger seat in fairness. Someone going into your car and dropping the back seats to get access to the boot is not something that I would have thought that many would be brazen enough to try in broad daylight when the owner is only feet from the car. This thread is a useful warning never to take anything for granted when it comes to these scumbags.

lucky we arent in america or the axe murderer could have gotten into the unlocked back door and back seat and as you were driving along the highway...BOOM... :P

then youd learn your lesson to lock your car! :D:D:D:D:D

Benda

Mo60 wrote: »

I'm not sure if this has been posted before but thought I would make people aware of the following.

Friend of mine was parked in a supermarket car park today and unloaded her shopping into the boot of her car and also left her bag in the boot. When shut, the boot cannot be unlocked from the outside so therefore she did not lock the car. She only went to return the trolley, a matter of about 30 seconds, and on returning to the car found someone had opened the back door, let down the seat and took her bag out of the boot. The thief had obviously done this before because he had parked right next to her car, with engine running, and when she returned he jumped back in his car and sat on the bag so that she could not get hold of it and sped off.

I am posting this to make others aware that even if the boot is locked, items are not safe.

Has anyone else heard of this happening before?

Eh try locking the car properly perhaps ???

Mo60

djimi wrote: »

In defense of the OP, they didnt leave the bag sitting on the passenger seat in fairness. Someone going into your car and dropping the back seats to get access to the boot is not something that I would have thought that many would be brazen enough to try in broad daylight when the owner is only feet from the car. This thread is a useful warning never to take anything for granted when it comes to these scumbags.

Thank you. This is exactly why I posted - to warn others. I certainly did not post looking for sympathy as some have said.

I will now leave it to the keyboard warriors to have their last word(s).

ironclaw

Benda wrote: »

Eh try locking the car properly perhaps ???

The point should be made, that even if the OP's friend had locked the car, had the thief opened the rear door a crack beforehand, the car would not have locked fully. So telling someone to 'lock the car properly' is actually fairly mute advice to a determined or clever crook.

And personally thats what I think happened here. I doubt anyone would walk away from a car without instinctively locking it. We all do it and its a reflex reaction. I would surprised if the OPs friend made a conscience decision to not lock the car.

And anyway, had they really wanted the bag, one could easily smash a window. They wanted the bag, they knew where it was and they were going to get it.

kupus

whomitconcerns wrote: »

lucky we arent in america or the axe murderer could have gotten into the unlocked back door and back seat and as you were driving along the highway...BOOM... :P

then youd learn your lesson to lock your car! :D:D:D:D:D

Or another way of looking at it would be the woman would have a gun in her coat pocket and shoot the scumbag leaving just a clean up and a quick enquiry instead of a long drawn out court process where the only winners are the judge and lawyer and the victim scumbag to be out robbing again in a month (thats if he's caught of course).

Kace

Stheno wrote: »

My OHs e class boot won't unlock apart from with the fob, or controls inside on the centre console.

There was a chap in a CL500 today in front of me at the petrol station.

He left his car unlocked and the front door open while he went in to pay for petrol!

Still it's not too easy to steal a CL500 if you only have a few seconds before he's legging it out to you from the petrol station.

ardle1

Anan1 wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of this to warn others not to make the same mistake themselves? Of course the victim did a stupid thing, to deny that is to deny that something can be learned from it.

Well as far as I'm concerned, 'stupid' is an insult, and to call someone stupid for making a mistake (and it's only a mistake because off the times we live in)is an insult and the last thing that person needs to hear, I find that kind of insult coming out of someone's mouth every now and then, eh it's usually one person among a group of about 5 or 6 who cant wait to say it.... Anyway I personally don't like that.