New Youtube rules...

Doctor DooM

So, youtube are bringing in some new rules for partners which might make things a little awkward for us.

They're starting to review partner videos. That means, firstly, that videos might take 2 days after an upload to appear- also they might not let me upload them if they don't like them.

I've a couple of ideas how to deal with this, I'm going to mail the various FG companies and see if they give fan licenses, and also I've made a back up channel www.dailymotion.com/brianvondoom in case they start refusing any videos.

Just thought it should be mentioned in case I have to start making changes!

K.O.Kiki

And here I was, thinking youTube couldn't get more annoying :pac:

Doctor DooM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

And here I was, thinking youTube couldn't get more annoying :pac:

Honestly, sometimes it feels like they don't actually want people making videos for them anymore, and they really only want to keep it about as a marketing tool for businesses.

Doctor DooM

http://cramgaming.com/youtube-getting-tough-video-game-monetization-12989/

Looks like it's going to mainly be a pain in my arse but not yours.

Robert ninja

Youtube needs some serious competition. YT videos load badly with massive ads and horribly downscale resolution and framrate. Their bots harrass anything that even sounds like something someone else owns and they obviously don't give a damn about user empowerment and are willing to bend over backwards for any corporation. If a website comes along that allows uploaders to make money off their popular vidoes then I expect or more so HOPE that YT burns to the ground.

Murderous Neil

for a second I thought the title meant "New Youtube Rules" as in "Yeah, this rules!". That was a bit extremely overoptimistic.

Sairus

I have been told this is good watching. Haven't checked it myself yet though:

Doctor DooM

As much as Phil is usually an idiot, as long as I've been on youtube I've seen him fighting the good fight and deep in discussion with Google over this stuff.

I've watched the first 12 minutes and I've heard similar things to the points he says.

Weirdly I don't have any content matches yet

K.O.Kiki

New tournament rules:

• Players MUST mash the Start button at the beginning of rounds.
• Games will be recorded on mute. Instead, the commentators will imitate every single sound effect. Marvel commentators will get an pack of lozenges after every third match for their efforts.
• At the end of rounds, the "Win" animation will be replaced by pictures of Zeus.

Doctor DooM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

New tournament rules:

• Games will be recorded on mute. Instead, the commentators will imitate every single sound effect. Marvel commentators will get an pack of lozenges after every third match for their efforts.

I know you jest but not recording cut scenes and altering the sound may prevent a lot of the problems.

Kanped

Run the sound through a pitch-shifter by about a quarter tone. Should work.

Doctor DooM

Kanped wrote: »

Run the sound through a pitch-shifter by about a quarter tone. Should work.

Trick is doing that before xsplit, as no way am I doing it for every video

Kanped

Yo, Doom, just a heads-up; I got content matched on the music from some old SF4 videos, so they will automatically claim that. I believe if there's commentary over it, though, they may not be able to match the content. Seems like about a minute of the music, uninterrupted, will trigger the flag, though.

"Hideyuki Fukasawa-Deserted Temple Stage -Japan-", sound recording administered by: 3:16
[Merlin] Phonofile
IDOL
Shock Entertainment Pty

Doctor DooM

Interesting. Still no claims here.

I'm usually dilligent about this stuff, maybe I got lucky.

Murderous Neil

The Content ID seems to be targeting more large scale youtubers. Angry Joe said he got 62 of his vids content matched, and apparently all of these vids were over or almost at a million views. Also came across this today http://o.canada.com/technology/gaming/blizzard-ubisoft-and-capcom-help-gaming-content-creators-battle-youtube-copyright-claims/

Kanped

I wonder if Twitch would consider upping its game and allowing non-streamed video content to be uploaded, and a subscription feed, comment system etc.

If Youtube is going to just keep getting worse, and they already have a reasonable profile, it may be a viable alternative for content creators, especially considering how many of them stream anyway.

Only problem really is the paid subscription model Twitch is currently operating under, as some providers use it to limit access to chat (which would extend to comments) and archives (on demand content), so I guess that would need to be changed if they wanted to go down that route.

Doctor DooM

Would you look who's getting involved...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcILyCkNmvM

Robert ninja

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Trick is doing that before xsplit, as no way am I doing it for every video

Xplit sucks btw. Try open broadcaster.

Doctor DooM

Robert ninja wrote: »

Xplit sucks btw. Try open broadcaster.

It might suck but it works with a lot more PVRs than OBS does.

MazManZero

Robert ninja wrote: »

Xplit sucks btw. Try open broadcaster.

OBS doesn't support Hauppauge right now. Otherwise, I'd be trying it myself.

Robert ninja

I see. Never had many problems with it that weren't my own fauly. I use it in conjunction with dxtory

Doctor DooM

Classic games room has apparently moved to dailymotion.

Possibly the beginning of a rot on youtube.

Chris IWS

Kanped wrote: »

Yo, Doom, just a heads-up; I got content matched on the music from some old SF4 videos, so they will automatically claim that. I believe if there's commentary over it, though, they may not be able to match the content. Seems like about a minute of the music, uninterrupted, will trigger the flag, though.

"Hideyuki Fukasawa-Deserted Temple Stage -Japan-", sound recording administered by: 3:16
[Merlin] Phonofile
IDOL
Shock Entertainment Pty

I can confirm this. Looks like sticking with training stage is the way to go for now.

the_syco

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I know you jest but not recording cut scenes and altering the sound may prevent a lot of the problems.

I wonder will "mods" appear that will swap out any sounds with generic copy-left beeps, and any cut-scene video with a generic copy-left picture, for no other reason than to allow people record matches and comment on gameplay?

Doctor DooM

the_syco wrote: »

I wonder will "mods" appear that will swap out any sounds with generic copy-left beeps, and any cut-scene video with a generic copy-left picture, for no other reason than to allow people record matches and comment on gameplay?

Probably. I know some people turn off the sound in RPG lets plays and voice the characters themselves

BTW kanped/ Chris, Capcom have been on twitter asking people to highlight their content id claims, you should probably get in contact if you've had any.

Dreddybajs

You could use the Xbox music player feature to play Creative Commons music for the stages instead of the game music, might get around it.

Kanped

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Probably. I know some people turn off the sound in RPG lets plays and voice the characters themselves

BTW kanped/ Chris, Capcom have been on twitter asking people to highlight their content id claims, you should probably get in contact if you've had any.

I already just hit 'accept' on them. I don't monetize my videos because I don't think the content I make has any value beyond the fun I have making it. It doesn't count as a copyright strike, and the videos don't go down. If I start making proper stuff that takes effort, then I will do that.

I *was* thinking of making a 'how to Let's Play in 2014' video, with some Nintendo or Sega game and completely **** up the audio and video beyond recognition and finish by telling people that it'sd available on Steam or whatever. Point out the lunacy of all this.

Doctor DooM

Kanped wrote: »

I already just hit 'accept' on them. I don't monetize my videos because I don't think the content I make has any value beyond the fun I have making it. It doesn't count as a copyright strike, and the videos don't go down. If I start making proper stuff that takes effort, then I will do that.

I *was* thinking of making a 'how to Let's Play in 2014' video, with some Nintendo or Sega game and completely **** up the audio and video beyond recognition and finish by telling people that it'sd available on Steam or whatever. Point out the lunacy of all this.

I'm considering something similar, for the craic.

the_syco

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I'm considering something similar, for the craic.

If you look at some of the anime on Youtube, you'll see that it was horizontally switched to get around this.

UberPrinny_Baal

This whole thing actually got me thinking about why these two video game shorts from earlier in the year don't use their appropriate game music:

Mario and Luigi Ultimate attack has parody music vaguely similar to the music from the series, but isn't even close enough to be considered a remix.

And the Dovahbear series based in Skyrim makes a point of crediting its soundtrack to Royalty free music

Credited music: http://www.neosounds.com/royalty-free-music-8905-the-descent-lynnemusic.html

So while 6-12 months ago I was thinking "Why did these guys go so far out of their way, rather than just using the music from the game?"

Clearly the answer today is that "They had more foresight than most, and kept their original content squeaky clean from the copyright spiders"

Doctor DooM

UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

So while 6-12 months ago I was thinking "Why did these guys go so far out of their way, rather than just using the music from the game?"

Clearly the answer today is that "They had more foresight than most, and kept their original content squeaky clean from the copyright spiders"

I've still got no claims, think it's because I avoid cut scenes and it's very rare to hear music I don't own without someone talking over it.

It'd be great if some of SDM's music got claimed. I'd love to have that chat with them.

UberPrinny_Baal

Doctor DooM wrote: »

I've still got no claims, think it's because I avoid cut scenes and it's very rare to hear music I don't own without someone talking over it.

I remember from doing commentary at Dominicon that the Smash Bros Melee Menu music was looping over and over on an unused casual station, and it was annoying me even with the noise-cancelling headphones, so I got up to mute them at one point.

I dunno did those actually make it into the youtube vids though, because that was from earlier in the tournament, and you only uploaded the last few matches.

Doctor DooM

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18o0t8_coming-soon-the-gootecks-and-mike-ross-show_tech

First of all yay, Mike and Gootecks working together again.

Secondly, looks like the first of the FGC players to migrate to DM...

Hope Youtube sort out something to stop this, don't want to have to build up my sub base again