Advice on a dog please!!

Martin1979

Hi, im my friend is going breeding his Gordon setter and has promised me pick of the litter. Only problem is the pup will only be born before the next season 2014 so wont be ready for training til the next year. so this leaves me dog-less til 2115:(
I have seen a Brittany spaniel advertised working with all the bells and whistles only problem is he is 7 years old.

Is he 2 old?? or would he do me for the rest of this season and the next? and then would he help me train the Gordon? or should I keep them apart?
I can care for the Brittany after he is finished working. but I would like to get more than the rest of this season outta him..
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

EPointer=Birdss

Martin1979 wrote: »

Hi, im my friend is going breeding his Gordon setter and has promised me pick of the litter. Only problem is the pup will only be born before the next season 2014 so wont be ready for training til the next year. so this leaves me dog-less til 2115:(
I have seen a Brittany spaniel advertised working with all the bells and whistles only problem is he is 7 years old.

Is he 2 old?? or would he do me for the rest of this season and the next? and then would he help me train the Gordon? or should I keep them apart?
I can care for the Brittany after he is finished working. but I would like to get more than the rest of this season outta him..
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

What would make you think 7 is too old?
(not taking into account why someone would part with a good 7 yr old dog)

jimf

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

What would make you think 7 is too old?
(not taking into account why someone would part with a good 7 yr old dog)

Im always super wary of somebody selling an older dog unless I could get a trial of the dog for a few shooting days

Martin1979

dogs work hard it can take alot outta them! what age would a britt or a pointer work till??
Ya that's the other thing, why would someone sell a good dog?
although im sure some people are genuine!
thanks for reply

Martin1979

jimf wrote: »

Im always super wary of somebody selling an older dog unless I could get a trial of the dog for a few shooting days

Very valid point Jim. good idea getting him for a few days, even if they agreed to give him would be a good sign he would be legit!

jimf

I have a 11yo springer still good for an hours shooting that's all I allow her works away At her own pace probably the best ESS I ever had

She would never work for anybody else but me just be careful an older dog may look brilliant with the current owner but may not work for you

Martin1979

Looks as if I dropped the ball lads, the Brittany seems to be sold. thanks anyway. if anyone knows of a genuine pointer setter or similar for sale must be trained and a little older but not 2 old please pm me!
Thanks

Martin1979

jimf wrote: »

I have a 11yo springer still good for an hours shooting that's all I allow her works away At her own pace probably the best ESS I ever had

She would never work for anybody else but me just be careful an older dog may look brilliant with the current owner but may not work for you

ive never shot under a springier, i would imagine they would be a bit fast for me:( I like the the setter/pointer cause they give me a chance to get ready. maybe when i get better with a dog i could try one.
Thanks

EPointer=Birdss

Martin1979 wrote: »

dogs work hard it can take alot outta them!

Go away really? :P

what age would a britt or a pointer work till??

Seen a setter work well up to 13 for a few handy hours but if looked after I would be expecting 10 good years plus bar health issues.
I unless required have stopped working dogs beyond 3 hours a day & try to mind them diet & bedding wise to keep them in good order.

Martin1979

Lol! so they can work upto a ripe old age! good to know, many thanks

jimf

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

Go away really? :P



Seen a setter work well up to 13 for a few handy hours but if looked after I would be expecting 10 good years plus bar health issues.
I unless required have stopped working dogs beyond 3 hours a day & try to mind them diet & bedding wise to keep them in good order.

Have to agree 100% food and diet I always look after the dogs first after a days shooting even if drenched to the skin hot food and dry bed on shredded paper

TriggerPL

Lad just wait for the Gordon or buy a pup now ,

If ya only get one season out of the spaniel what is the point in feeding a that someone else has had the work out of , including the medical issues u have with old dogs , it could become an expensive pet ,

If you had it for hunting all it life then I deserve to look after it but I think ur buying someone else problems

Martin1979

Another very valid point. Thank u. I probably should just buy a pup now!

TriggerPL

Martin1979 wrote: »

Another very valid point. Thank u. I probably should just buy a pup now!

I personally think it will be cheaper and more enjoyable in the long run , even if ya want to hold out for a pup of the dog your talking about it not the end of the world missing a season if you have the dog you want. .

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

I personally think it will be cheaper and more enjoyable in the long run , even if ya want to hold out for a pup of the dog your talking about it not the end of the world missing a season if you have the dog you want. .

Im gonna do that. I decided its best. Im going to look for a gordon pup now and get the other one when its ready. I have the room and lots of fields for them to exercise. The more I think about it its a no brainer!

TriggerPL

I'm home in a week and il ask about in trailing circles see if there anyone know of anything .

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

I'm home in a week and il ask about in trailing circles see if there anyone know of anything .

Much abliged.

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

I'm home in a week and il ask about in trailing circles see if there anyone know of anything .

Much abliged.

charlie10

here is my opinion on it , i think u should buy a springer/setter maybe 2 or 3 years old that is trained to a respectable standard i.e returning on the whistle,stopping on the whistle,walking to heel ,etc etc. the reason i say this is because the dog will probably teach u alot and at least u are starting as u mean to go on and u have a respectable standard of dog that u can train future dogs to reach. i bought a trained dog off of highduck here on boards and i never looked back ,he was a dream to hunt with and seldom put a foot wrong have some brilliant memories with him and he paved the way for my hunting ventures ,if i had not of bought him i would of prob made a bollix out of future pups ,.so basically buy good the first time and u will never settle for less

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

here is my opinion on it , i think u should buy a springer/setter maybe 2 or 3 years old that is trained to a respectable standard i.e returning on the whistle,stopping on the whistle,walking to heel ,etc etc. the reason i say this is because the dog will probably teach u alot and at least u are starting as u mean to go on and u have a respectable standard of dog that u can train future dogs to reach. i bought a trained dog off of highduck here on boards and i never looked back ,he was a dream to hunt with and seldom put a foot wrong have some brilliant memories with him and he paved the way for my hunting ventures ,if i had not of bought him i would of prob made a bollix out of future pups ,.so basically buy good the first time and u will never settle for less

So a dog trained you ! That's a new one !

Explains a lot !

charlie10

well id rather learn from a dog as opposed to watching u crawling through cover to teach ur dogs how to hunt:rolleyes:

charlie10

any chance u would stay over in australia :P

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

well id rather learn from a dog as opposed to watching u crawling through cover to teach ur dogs how to hunt:rolleyes:

Ahhhh ! I knew I get ya with that one , only taking the piss , ur right in a sence u learn a lot about what to expect from a dog by working with a trained one .

And not a hope I'm coming home to a new maxus can not ****ing wait !

charlie10

though u would be a side by side man !

delthedriver

TriggerPL wrote: »

So a dog trained you ! That's a new one !

Explains a lot !

He Tarzan!:D

TriggerPL

charlie10 wrote: »

though u would be a side by side man !

The only thing a side by side is gud for is intimidation !

http://youtu.be/vi1-IihX6yY

charlie10

TriggerPL wrote: »

The only thing a side by side is gud for is intimidation !

http://youtu.be/vi1-IihX6yY

always found them too short , nothing against them apart from that.the forfend just seems to far back for me.

Martin1979

charlie10 wrote: »

here is my opinion on it , i think u should buy a springer/setter maybe 2 or 3 years old that is trained to a respectable standard i.e returning on the whistle,stopping on the whistle,walking to heel ,etc etc. the reason i say this is because the dog will probably teach u alot and at least u are starting as u mean to go on and u have a respectable standard of dog that u can train future dogs to reach. i bought a trained dog off of highduck here on boards and i never looked back ,he was a dream to hunt with and seldom put a foot wrong have some brilliant memories with him and he paved the way for my hunting ventures ,if i had not of bought him i would of prob made a bollix out of future pups ,.so basically buy good the first time and u will never settle for less

Thanks guys, im getting some great advice here. But im back where I started again. Was just talking to a guy last night that has gordon pups. But the semi trained dog seems like a great option at this moment! Just so hard to know if ide b getting a genuine one and that makes me nervous! Nobody wants a glugger!Charlie u have a great point. I like the setter as a posed to the springer. All my gang have setters or pointers and can u hunt the 2 I didn't think u could anyway? And I think the springer might b a little fast 4 me as I enjoy hunting at a little slower pace. But if you know of a semi trained genuine bitch anywhere pass me on a phone number.

TriggerPL

Martin1979 wrote: »

Thanks guys, im getting some great advice here. But im back where I started again. Was just talking to a guy last night that has gordon pups. But the semi trained dog seems like a great option at this moment! Just so hard to know if ide b getting a genuine one and that makes me nervous! Nobody wants a glugger!Charlie u have a great point. I like the setter as a posed to the springer. All my gang have setters or pointers and can u hunt the 2 I didn't think u could anyway? And I think the springer might b a little fast 4 me as I enjoy hunting at a little slower pace. But if you know of a semi trained genuine bitch anywhere pass me on a phone number.

I know a guy has one of the best pointer lines in the country there might be a 6 month old pup knocking about he has three he was keeping for him self he might let one go

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

I know a guy has one of the best pointer lines in the country there might be a 6 month old pup knocking about he has three he was keeping for him self he might let one go

That b great. Ide really like a bitch if possible. Because I already have a purebred bitch for a pet and wouldn't want them to mate! But ya ide b great full if u asked him and u could pass on his number if he had 1

TriggerPL

Martin1979 wrote: »

That b great. Ide really like a bitch if possible. Because I already have a purebred bitch for a pet and wouldn't want them to mate! But ya ide b great full if u asked him and u could pass on his number if he had 1

Pm bud

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

Pm bud

That sounds great. Bit pricey .I would love to have a look. Where is he?

TriggerPL

Martin1979 wrote: »

That sounds great. Bit pricey .I would love to have a look. Where is he?

As I said in pm bud a pup with that background and quality would set you back 4-5 hundred so for a 13 month trained dog it not Huge money

springer man

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

charlie10

springer man wrote: »

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

where in Limerick

charlie10

springer man wrote: »

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

where in Limerick

charlie10

springer man wrote: »

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

where in Limerick

charlie10

springer man wrote: »

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

where in Limerick

springer man

charlie10 wrote: »

where in Limerick

O rourkes Cross , out by Croom

charlie10

cool any pic of pup ,best of luck by the way

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

As I said in pm bud a pup with that background and quality would set you back 4-5 hundred so for a 13 month trained dog it not Huge money

Im n mayo. So letrim is no problem. But meath is tough for me . Im n dublin next weekend and could come home through meath on Sunday. Ide really like ta have a look at her in action!

Martin1979

springer man wrote: »

I bought a English Setter pup off Tom O Donnel in Co. Limerick last week and im absolutely mad about him ! I know he has 1 bitch left if you were interested? Dogs are bred to the best

Thanks but I think the trained dog b best for me

charlie10

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snipe02

charlie10 wrote: »

well id rather learn from a dog as opposed to watching u crawling through cover to teach ur dogs how to hunt:rolleyes:

Hahahahaha bombsuit forgot about that one

charlie10

jasus lad dont get him going ha ha:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

springer man

heres a photo lads ..
fine sized

Martin1979

springer man wrote: »

heres a photo lads ..
fine sized

Hes a fine pup alright! Dog or bitch?

springer man

Martin1979 wrote: »

Hes a fine pup alright! Dog or bitch?

a Dog lad! delighted with him so far anyway hopefully he'll do the trick now.

TriggerPL

Pm there martin

Martin1979

TriggerPL wrote: »

Pm there martin

Got that. Nice 1