Toy knuckledusters

Beavishead

Would you buy toy knuckledusters for your children to play with?
http://www.thelocal.se/20131203/swedish-parents-fuming-over-toy-knuckledusters

What is your opinion on this, if kids are allowed to play with toy swords and toy guns, why should we not allow them to use toy knuckledusters?

Daqster

Think those things would give you more than a dusting.

Beavishead

They are made of foam, how would that hurt anyone?

Banjo String

Beavishead wrote: »

They are made of foam, how would that hurt anyone?

I don't think that's the point.

biko

It's a bit ott but then again they probably get plastic swords and guns.

Iwasfrozen

Banjo String wrote: »

I don't think that's the point.

He was responding to the second poster. I don;t see anything wrong with it. Young boys love to play with toy guns swords knives and grenades.

Banjo String

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

He was responding to the second poster. I don;t see anything wrong with it. Young boys love to play with toy guns swords knives and grenades.

My point (as a father) being that its irresponsible to be buying kids offensive (albeit toy) weapons.

Knuckle dusters could be obtained easier in life than guns/grenades etc.

I wouldn't want my kids growing up thinking something like a knuckle duster is an appropriate toy to be playing with.

Lenin Skynard

I had plastic nunchucks/ninja stars when I was eight and I still haven't murdered anyone in the 23 years since.

Iwasfrozen

Banjo String wrote: »

My point (as a father) being that its irresponsible to be buying kids offensive (albeit toy) weapons.

Knuckle dusters could be obtained easier in life than guns/grenades etc.

I wouldn't want my kids growing up thinking something like a knuckle duster is an appropriate toy to be playing with.

I doubt your child is going to grow up as a gangster because he owned a pair of foam knuckledusters. I had all sorts of military toys as a child and I haven't killed anyone, (yet). In fact when I was about 4-5 I found a massive wooden club down in the farm I could barely lift but I thought the world of it and carried the dirty old thing everywhere. Young boys by their nature like to play with these things and I think it's good for their development to let them.

Banjo String

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I doubt your child is going to grow up as a gangster because he owned a pair of foam knuckledusters.

I can't work you out at times.

Protestor, holding placards = idiot.
Parent buying their child a toy knuckle duster = not an idiot

Morals all over the shop.

Iwasfrozen

Banjo String wrote: »

I can't work you out at times.

Protestor, holding placards = idiot.
Parent buying their child a toy knuckle duster = not an idiot

Morals all over the shop.

Those two things are not in any way related!

They're made of foam, don't really see the issue?

Dyr

When I was ten I had a toy flintlock that was made of heavy plastic and metal, I could have brained another kid with it if I wanted to but i did'nt (although this one little fcuker...)

knuckledust away sonny

RichardoKhan

We have toy guns & toy knives. So why not toy knuckle dusters? A lego offshoot company has a best selling toy in which it allows children to recreate scenes from Breaking Bad with lego IE a Meth lab. I think in the scheme of things we have a few things higher up the pecking order to get at before toy knuckle dusters........

Duggy747

I was expecting toy types that looked like the one you'd see on an East-end "Landan, innit?" thug, not something that looks like it came from Lord Of The Rings.

maximoose

They look grand to me. A lot safer than the make shift wolverine hands I used to make out of forks and duct tape.

h2005

I'd be worried that the kids would actually punch each other with them. I know they're foam but I'd sooner buy them boxing gloves.

anncoates

I just go by the handy rule of thumb that the more I don't like the idea of a toy as a parent, I would have found it completely awesome as a child.

Dravokivich

bluewolf wrote: »

They're made of foam, don't really see the issue?

Aren't knuckle dusters usually used, for punching someone in the head?

Toy weapons, don't generally need such contact, when playing about.

jimgoose

Foam knuckle-dusters me ballacks. These are much more like it:

http://www.blackopstoys.com/catalog/hot-toys-predators-noland-extendable-wrist-blades-forearm-armor-p-8768.html

kunst nugget

Dravokivich wrote: »

Aren't knuckle dusters usually used, for punching someone in the head?

Toy weapons, don't generally need such contact, when playing about.

A knuckle duster to the balls would be pretty effective too. Although probably not as effective as a Nerf bullet to the eye

beauf

maximoose wrote: »

They look grand to me. A lot safer than the make shift wolverine hands I used to make out of forks and duct tape.

Love that...

Dravokivich

kunst nugget wrote: »

A knuckle duster to the balls would be pretty effective too. Although probably not as effective as a Nerf bullet to the eye

Accidents happen, you can only try to minimise'em. But I don't think it's a good thing to get something for a kid as a toy that's purpose is to strike at another kid in the head.

jimgoose

Dravokivich wrote: »

Accidents happen, you can only try to minimise'em. But I don't think it's a good thing to get something for a kid as a toy that's purpose is to strike at another kid in the head.

One of my favourite toys as a kid was plastic but pretty decent replica FN L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle that fired little plastic slugs from a 10-round mag. Loved that, I did. :cool:

Dravokivich

jimgoose wrote: »

One of my favourite toys as a kid was plastic but pretty decent replica FN L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle that fired little plastic slugs from a 10-round mag. Loved that, I did. :cool:

Ehm, good for you I suppose. But that's not the same as comparing with a toy, which is meant to be used in play fighting. You don't swing at cans from 30 ft with a toy knuckleduster.

kunst nugget

Dravokivich wrote: »

Accidents happen, you can only try to minimise'em. But I don't think it's a good thing to get something for a kid as a toy that's purpose is to strike at another kid in the head.

I'm guessing the purpose of the toy is to play dress up as a village pillaging viking and not specifically designed for kids to actually strike others on the head with - although that could be an outcome just like the nerf bullet scenario.

Dravokivich

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'm guessing the purpose of the toy is to play dress up as a village pillaging viking and not specifically designed for kids to actually strike others on the head with - although that could be an outcome just like the nerf bullet scenario.

It actually states:

perfect for a pretend fist-fight

In its advertisement.

jimgoose

Dravokivich wrote: »

Ehm, good for you I suppose. But that's not the same as comparing with a toy, which is meant to be used in play fighting. You don't swing at cans from 30 ft with a toy knuckleduster.

I seem to recall using that rifle quite a bit in play-fighting.

I currently have a beautifully accurate replica of an 1894 Winchester over the fireplace. Mrs. Goose keeps on about a nice pair of wall-lamps, but I'm having none of it!!

Iwasfrozen

Dravokivich wrote: »

It actually states:


In its advertisement.

I don;t know about you but I wouldn't want to bring foam knuckledusters to a fight. :rolleyes:

kunst nugget

Dravokivich wrote: »

It actually states:


In its advertisement.

Does a pretend fist fight actually involve hitting someone in the head?

Banjo String

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Those two things are not in any way related!

Until your kid turns up to a protest with a knuckle duster.

Iwasfrozen

Banjo String wrote: »

Until your kid turns up to a protest with a knuckle duster.

He did what?!! Next thing he'll be a socialist! :eek:

Dravokivich

kunst nugget wrote: »

Does a pretend fist fight actually involve hitting someone in the head?

More so than hitting someone in the eye accidentally with a nerf gun yeah.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I don;t know about you but I wouldn't want to bring foam knuckledusters to a fight. :rolleyes:

You'd want to be careful you don't keep making that face while the wind changes, otherwise it'd be stuck like that.

kunst nugget

Dravokivich wrote: »

More so than hitting someone in the eye accidentally with a nerf gun yeah.

Well, if you have that much trouble distinguishing between pretend play and reality, maybe these knuckledusters aren't for you, Dravokivich. Maybe Santa will bring them for you next year.

Dravokivich

kunst nugget wrote: »

Well, if you have that much trouble distinguishing between pretend play and reality, maybe these knuckledusters aren't for you, Dravokivich. Maybe Santa will bring them for you next year.

I can distinguish. It's just with general pushing and shoving, kids are more likely to slip up around each other. They're going to get knocks in the head from one another.

Or were the big boys too rough for you to play with Kunst Nugget?

jimgoose

Dravokivich wrote: »

I can distinguish. It's just with general pushing and shoving, kids are more likely to slip up around each other. They're going to get knocks in the head from one another...

Exactly. The whole thing is very hap-hazard - rifles are much better.

kunst nugget

Dravokivich wrote: »

I can distinguish. It's just with general pushing and shoving, kids are more likely to slip up around each other. They're going to get knocks in the head from one another.

Or were the big boys too rough for you to play with Kunst Nugget?

We stripped to our speedos and oiled ourselves up before playing so we generally just slid off each other while wrestling.

seb65

I wouldn't approve of my child playing with toy guns or knuckledusters. Water guns, and plastic swords are different. Play is more about fantasy/skill than violence with those.

Knuckledusters require actual physical contact with each other, even toy guns don't require that.

BTW, as a female, I quite enjoyed playing with toy guns, swords, water pistols, cap guns etc - why do most posters seem to think only boys like to play with these things?

It's like on the Toy Show, one of the children was delighted that they've started to make pink water guns (or something to the like) so now girls can play with them too! FFS.

long range shooter

Beavishead wrote: »

Would you buy toy knuckledusters for your children to play with?
http://www.thelocal.se/20131203/swedish-parents-fuming-over-toy-knuckledusters

What is your opinion on this, if kids are allowed to play with toy swords and toy guns, why should we not allow them to use toy knuckledusters?

Whats the difference from playing with that as a child vs playing with this as a teenager?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAMqrBUzZCk

Dravokivich

long range shooter wrote: »

Whats the difference from playing with that as a child vs playing with this as a teenager?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAMqrBUzZCk

Another child is the target with the toy knuckleduster, while a defenseless piece of board is the target with the gun?

long range shooter

Dravokivich wrote: »

Another child is the target with the toy knuckleduster, while a defenseless piece of board is the target with the gun?

And the toy is plasticAnd what if the target isnt a piece of board,the irony??:rolleyes:

Iwasfrozen

long range shooter wrote: »

Whats the difference from playing with that as a child vs playing with this as a teenager?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAMqrBUzZCk

1. A real gun is not a toy.
2. There's nothing wrong with regulated recreational gun use.

Fighting Irish

I wouldn't but each to their own

long range shooter

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

1. A real gun is not a toy.
2. There's nothing wrong with regulated recreational gun use.

1 This is from the army,where you learn to kill:rolleyes:
2 So what harm does a piece of plastic do to a child,knowing when hes a teenager,hes going to learn to kill anyway:rolleyes:
A bit of irony,isnt it;)

Dravokivich

long range shooter wrote: »

And the toy is plasticAnd what if the target isnt a piece of board,the irony??:rolleyes:

There's no irony.

The difference, was they weren't aiming to hit each other in the video.

long range shooter

Dravokivich wrote: »

There's no irony.

The difference, was they weren't aiming to hit each other in the video.

No,but they train to hit a human sized target:rolleyes:

Iwasfrozen

long range shooter wrote: »

1 This is from the army,where you learn to kill:rolleyes:
2 So what harm does a piece of plastic do to a child,knowing when hes a teenager,hes going to learn to kill anyway:rolleyes:
A bit of irony,isnt it;)

1. I know what the army is. So what?
2. What are you even talking about?

long range shooter

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

1. I know what the army is. So what?
2. What are you even talking about?

this

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED
The 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's



First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we weren't overweight because WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms..........WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good.

And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.

Kind of makes you want to run through the house with scissors, doesn't it?!

AnonoBoy

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

I had plastic nunchucks/ninja stars when I was eight and I still haven't murdered anyone in the 23 years since.

Yes there was that string of ninja star murders in 1990 that they haven't been able to pin on anybody..........

Iwasfrozen

long range shooter wrote: »

this

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED
The 1930's 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's

I still don't know what you're talking about.

long range shooter

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I still don't know what you're talking about.

Then i cant help you anymore