90% of adults will be overweight by 2030

harryr711

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/study-90-of-adults-will-be-overweight-by-2030-250521.html

“Overweight and obesity are projected to reach levels of 89% and 85% in males and females respectively by 2030.”

According to the study, there will be “an increase in the obesity-related prevalence of coronary heart disease [CHD] and stroke by 97%, cancers by 61% and type 2 diabetes by 21%. The direct healthcare costs associated with these increases will amount to €5.4bn by 2030”.

Shocking stuff. Hopefully the fit Polish women stay here.

Frosty McSnowballs

Not me, il be dead!

Legs.Eleven

I don't believe that! Unless we end up feasting on each other, I can't see that ever happening.



(Will I be eating my words in 2030 along with everything that look vaguely edible? Let's wait and see....)

Wacker The Attacker

I'm already a fattie.

I'll also probably be dead by 2030

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

buuuuuulllshhhiiiiiiiiiit

Soft Falling Rain

You can literally hear the LOUD NOISES that they've trying to make. In other words, sesationalist rubbish.

harryr711

It's not sensationalist at all.

http://gamapserver.who.int/gho/interactive_charts/ncd/risk_factors/overweight_obesity/atlas.html

cormie

Hmm, 2030 sounds a bit early but I can see the overall picture getting a lot worse, not sure if it would be that bad but it wouldn't surprise me unfortunately.

Does anyone know the current figures? If you take into consideration the dramatic changes to health effective elements of living in the last 70 odd years (we're mechanically propelled to most places we need to go, and we need to go to a lot less places now too, more and more jobs are desk bound with little movement and exercise, there's more and more processed and fast foods used regularly as every day meals, medication being available for every niggling issue) and already the stats are probably quite bad.

If most of the current generation had home made, unprocessed, simple meals prepared for them growing up and the figures are bad now, imagine what it will be like when a lot of children these days will be told how to peel the foil back on a microwave packed meal instead of how to peel a carrot?

harryr711

cormie wrote: »

Hmm, 2030 sounds a bit early but I can see the overall picture getting a lot worse, not sure if it would be that bad but it wouldn't surprise me unfortunately.

Does anyone know the current figures? If you take into consideration the dramatic changes to health effective elements of living in the last 70 odd years (we're mechanically propelled to most places we need to go, and we need to go to a lot less places now too, more and more jobs are desk bound with little movement and exercise, there's more and more processed and fast foods used regularly as every day meals, medication being available for every niggling issue) and already the stats are probably quite bad.

If most of the current generation had home made, unprocessed, simple meals prepared for them growing up and the figures are bad now, imagine what it will be like when a lot of children these days will be told how to peel the foil back on a microwave packed meal instead of how to peel a carrot?

Here's an interactive graph with relatively current stats (you can switch between overweight and obesity data): http://gamapserver.who.int/gho/interactive_charts/ncd/risk_factors/overweight_obesity/atlas.html

60% of adults are currently overweight.

_Redzer_

It's gonna be great for me. Gonna get into the insulin market! Glass half full over here ye pack of cynics

harryr711

_Redzer_ wrote: »

It's gonna be great for me. Gonna get into the insulin market! Glass half full over here ye pack of cynics

I'm going to open a bakery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pOyv5lC_k

_Redzer_

harryr711 wrote: »

I'm going to open a bakery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_pOyv5lC_k

Yes. I see a partnership forming here

_Redzer_

The insulin thing is bollox in seriousness. 5% of the world is diabetic, but it's only expected to increase to 6.4% by 2030.

1/3 of Americans could be diabetic by 2050 though, which is fairly shocking.

Chancer3001

60 percent overweight at the moment sounds right.

A slim older person is very much in the minority

Fukuyama

This issue is going to be huge. Babies born in 2007, by 2050, will all be fat ****s incapable of extracting themselves from even moderately dangerous situations. For example, the light flooding or storm damage this country gets each year.

This will mean that being fit will be a highly in-demand skill for roles such as Fire & Rescue, military service, Gardaí and Civil Defence. So, physically fit people will be able to charge the ham planets a premium rate for our services (hauling their huge blubber bodies up out of the flood plain). This might seem like a joke, and in a way I guess I kind of am joking; but flash forward to 2050 and tell me it doesn't make sense.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, medical staff and emergency workers faced huge issues with obese patients (33% of the population). Rescue workers had to risk their own skin extracting people from situations that any physically fit person could have easily gotten out of. This of course tide up helicopters and National Guard personnel who could have been rescuing people who genuinely were trapped. There was also one case of over a dozen nursing staff having to spend hours slowly moving a 400 pound man up the stairs of a hospital as the lifts were out (hospital was on back-up power). So because some obscene, gluttonous person decided to spend each day murdering themselves with food, over a dozen medical staff were tied up trying to lift him right when they were needed the most.

The fatties are now protected by huge companies and awareness campaigns. Western society is screaming at them that "it's okay", "it's natural" and it's "real beauty" for both men and women (more so the latter, however). But it's not okay. It's disgusting to have anything more than a pudgy low 20s % body fat. But they're not the problem, right? It's the corporations, the doctors, the schools, society or their thyroid. :rolleyes:

Kids are ingesting what was a birthday party banquet in the 90s (coke, fizzy drinks, crisps, chocolate etc) every single day for lunch and dinner along with little snacks in between. And there's always a fat hamplanet of a parent waiting to take them off to Mcc D's for a Diabetes inducing happy meal.

Mint Aero

More fat men than fat women?

Discredits everything

Wibbs

_Redzer_ wrote: »

The insulin thing is bollox in seriousness. 5% of the world is diabetic, but it's only expected to increase to 6.4% by 2030.

Is that the whole wordl including the developing nations? I can imagine the stats for the developed nations would be more worrying. Plus a fair few people have hidden pre diabetic conditions and even full type 2 they don't know about, so again the stats would be high enough. The whole "fat is bad for you" stuff of the last 30 years didn't help, while the level of simple carbs in our diets went up. I wouldn't be shocked to find that if you banned sugar and simple carbs that it would have as much, if not more of an impact on health and longevity as banning tobacco.

Fukuyama

Chancer3001 wrote: »

60 percent overweight at the moment sounds right.

A slim older person is very much in the minority

Slim doesn't mean healthy - although most slim people will definitly be closer to a basic standard of health and physical fitness than even moderately overweight people.

Physical exercise decreases the chances of depression, weight gain and numerous other diseases (heart disease, for example). Beyond 30, most people let themselves go.

There's an old man (70+) that I see jogging around the Phoenix park every once in a while. He goes at a slow pace but fcuk he can move for hours. I'd say he'd put the average 20 year old to shame.

TomoBhoy

Did someone sit down and watch Wall E then write a report ?
Load of ballocks the same amount of fat people in the 80/90's to now

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Dean0088 wrote: »

This issue is going to be huge. Babies born in 2007, by 2050, will all be fat ****s incapable of extracting themselves from even moderately dangerous situations. For example, the light flooding or storm damage this country gets each year.

This will mean that being fit will be a highly in-demand skill for roles such as Fire & Rescue, military service, Gardaí and Civil Defence. So, physically fit people will be able to charge the ham planets a premium rate for our services (hauling their huge blubber bodies up out of the flood plain). This might seem like a joke, and in a way I guess I kind of am joking; but flash forward to 2050 and tell me it doesn't make sense.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, medical staff and emergency workers faced huge issues with obese patients (33% of the population). Rescue workers had to risk their own skin extracting people from situations that any physically fit person could have easily gotten out of. This of course tide up helicopters and National Guard personnel who could have been rescuing people who genuinely were trapped. There was also one case of over a dozen nursing staff having to spend hours slowly moving a 400 pound man up the stairs of a hospital as the lifts were out (hospital was on back-up power). So because some obscene, gluttonous person decided to spend each day murdering themselves with food, over a dozen medical staff were tied up trying to lift him right when they were needed the most.

The fatties are now protected by huge companies and awareness campaigns. Western society is screaming at them that "it's okay", "it's natural" and it's "real beauty" for both men and women (more so the latter, however). But it's not okay. It's disgusting to have anything more than a pudgy low 20s % body fat. But they're not the problem, right? It's the corporations, the doctors, the schools, society or their thyroid. :rolleyes:

Kids are ingesting what was a birthday party banquet in the 90s (coke, fizzy drinks, crisps, chocolate etc) every single day for lunch and dinner along with little snacks in between. And there's always a fat hamplanet of a parent waiting to take them off to Mcc D's for a Diabetes inducing happy meal.

while I think most of your post is alarmist bollocks, I do wish to express my love and admiration for the word 'hamplanet'

there's still beauty in the world

Dubhlinner

I think males 20-35 are making a huge improvement on their weight in the past 2-3 years. weightlifting has gotten mainstream in this age group.

Funnily enough they may still show overweight/obese because when you gain muscle you gain a bit of weight, but doesn't put you at health risk

Tin Foil Hat

harryr711 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/study-90-of-adults-will-be-overweight-by-2030-250521.html



Shocking stuff. Hopefully the fit Polish women stay here.

As long as we keep demonising slim, attractive women for looking after themselves we'll be grand.

smurgen

It's freeeeeeezing outside,I wish I was fat right now!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

smurgen wrote: »

It's freeeeeeezing outside,I wish I was fat right now!

im after putting a stone on the last couple of months, it's still ****ing freezing outside

I'm already overweight.

TomoBhoy

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I think males 20-35 are making a huge improvement on their weight in the past 2-3 years. weightlifting has gotten mainstream in this age group.

Funnily enough they may still show overweight/obese because when you gain muscle you gain a bit of weight, but doesn't put you at health risk

Plus a million I do a little bit of weights and tbh with BMI I'd probably be classed as overweight

_Redzer_

Wibbs wrote: »

Is that the whole wordl including the developing nations? I can imagine the stats for the developed nations would be more worrying. Plus a fair few people have hidden pre diabetic conditions and even full type 2 they don't know about, so again the stats would be high enough. The whole "fat is bad for you" stuff of the last 30 years didn't help, while the level of simple carbs in our diets went up. I wouldn't be shocked to find that if you banned sugar and simple carbs that it would have as much, if not more of an impact on health and longevity as banning tobacco.

Whole world including developing nations, so that cuts the figures down substantially. Asia is a growing problem because they're adopting our industrialised, western diets.

Those figures don't take pre-diabetics into account as well. ~75 million Americans are pre-diabetic currently, with ~25 million being diabetic, so it's unsurprising that a third of the total population there could be diabetic in under 40 years.

Mint Aero

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I think males 20-35 are making a huge improvement on their weight in the past 2-3 years. weightlifting has gotten mainstream in this age group.

Funnily enough they may still show overweight/obese because when you gain muscle you gain a bit of weight, but doesn't put you at health risk

Yes we're amazing in that sense. All my mates are into gym and eat well. It's great to see Irish men in their 20's and early 30's looking after themselves. It really is, fantastic lads. Keep up the hard work

Fukuyama

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

while I think most of your post is alarmist bollocks, I do wish to express my love and admiration for the word 'hamplanet'

there's still beauty in the world

In all honesty, I'd of called my post bollocks too before I did a little reading on the subject a year or so ago.

He's a credible source for the Katrina claims I make.

Google things like 'cinema seat dimensions' over time. From 1900 to 1980, theater seats increased in width by around 10%. In the last 30 years, they've had to increase it a whopping 50%. When retrofitting theaters, this drives up the cost of tickets. Not a major issue for society, but it shows how people have ballooned in size in the past two decades.

Every nation has a 'fit for service' index. This is the number of people presumed fit for military or civil service. Basically, it's males and females between certain ages without disabilities. In 1950, this number was around 97% accurate. So in a time of emergency or war, a country knew how many people could look after themselves and how man would need state assistance.

This figure is now only around 50% accurate. Most people simply are not 'fit' enough to take care of themselves.

I might be alarmist - but that's because the trends emerging in this nations youth are pretty alarming.

Fat camp, ftw.

Tin Foil Hat

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I think males 20-35 are making a huge improvement on their weight in the past 2-3 years.

I do deliveries into 20-25 different schools. With the exception of working class areas, primary schoolkids are in far better shape than they were five years ago.

Fukuyama

Dubhlinner wrote: »

I think males 20-35 are making a huge improvement on their weight in the past 2-3 years. weightlifting has gotten mainstream in this age group.

Funnily enough they may still show overweight/obese because when you gain muscle you gain a bit of weight, but doesn't put you at health risk

I have to agree with this. There's definitely been a huge improvement. I just hope the attitude is to 'feel good' not to look good. Hitting 30 or 40 is no excuse to not go for a run three times a week.

Despite the upswing in gym going, I think it's just creating a two-tier split. There's guys who are really fit and capable. Then there's guys with tyres around their bellies who get out of breath after a few flights of stairs.

I'd say the men in 1970 who were 20 would have this generations 20 year olds bet by a long shot. I'm 21 btw - not like I'm coming from a "kids these days" standpoint.

mike65

When I was at school in the 70s and early 80s our year (about 50 pupils in total) had no one who could be considered fat just a couple who were 'comfortable' I'd say the typical Leaving Year now would sink a boat.

smurgen

Dean0088 wrote: »

I have to agree with this. There's definitely been a huge improvement. I just hope the attitude is to 'feel good' not to look good. Hitting 30 or 40 is no excuse to not go for a run three times a week.

Despite the upswing in gym going, I think it's just creating a two-tier split. There's guys who are really fit and capable. Then there's guys with tyres around their bellies who get out of breath after a few flights of stairs.

Well just because you're a bit fat doesn't mean you're unfit. I've a bit of a gut and I'm as fit as a fiddle.Im 6 3 and I weight 16 stone,I can run ten miles in 1 hour 15. I'm a lot fitter than my thinner friends,especially those that smoke.

Fukuyama

smurgen wrote: »

Well just because you're a bit fat doesn't mean you're unfit. I've a bit of a gut and I'm as fit as a fiddle.Im 6 3 and I weight 16 stone,I can run ten miles in 1 hour 15. I'm a lot fitter than my thinner friends,especially those that smoke.

A bit of fat is fine. Assuming this isn't Paul O' Connell I'm talking too, your BMI probably isn't higher than the low 20s. And if you really wanted to, you could be at 13% body fat in a few months with a BMI in the healthy range. Your heart will thank you for it, particularly as the years clock up.

What I'm talking about is people that live a sedated lifestyle are rapidly becoming a drain on society. It's also a poor reflection on our society's perception of self improvement, achievement and dedication.

Fukuyama

mike65 wrote: »

When I was at school in the 70s and early 80s our year (about 50 pupils in total) had no one who could be considered fat just a couple who were 'comfortable' I'd say the typical Leaving Year now would sink a boat.

I'm not that long out of school. In my year, there were quite a few people who were HUGE. Mostly a result of not getting good food at home (ready meals, chippers, dominoes, no veg etc...)

However, I've bumped into them a few years later and they're all fit as fiddles, going to the gym. Lads in particular tend to hit 16/17, say "fcuk this" and hit the gym, hard. Puberty and a desire for wimmenz tends to help.

The real problem lies with people who stop playing sports once they go to college / get a job. A lot of them see 3 sausage rolls for a euro in SPAR as breakfast, Subway as lunch and a Goodfellas pizza for dinner as a healthy lifestyle choice. They normally slam a red bull, a Snapple and a 'vitamin water' during the day too for a sugar kick along with a Snickers and a couple of biscuits.

By the time they're 25, they look more like the fat kids they used to bully in school.

_Redzer_

Dean0088 wrote: »

I'm not that long out of school. In my year, there were quite a few people who were HUGE. Mostly a result of not getting good food at home (ready meals, chippers, dominoes, no veg etc...)

However, I've bumped into them a few years later and they're all fit as fiddles, going to the gym. Lads in particular tend to hit 16/17, say "fcuk this" and hit the gym, hard. Puberty and a desire for wimmenz tends to help.

The real problem lies with people who stop playing sports once they go to college / get a job. A lot of them see 3 sausage rolls for a euro in SPAR as breakfast, Subway as lunch and a Goodfellas pizza for dinner as a healthy lifestyle choice. They normally slam a red bull, a Snapple and a 'vitamin water' during the day too for a sugar kick along with a Snickers and a couple of biscuits.

By the time they're 25, they look more like the fat kids they used to bully in school.

Even those lads that have regained their health it's too late, the damage has already been done to their epigenes.
If you start smoking or are obese before the age of 12, your epigenes become affected and the chance of your children being obese rises sharply to 20-30%.

Fair play for them for getting back into shape again, but the old saying "fat parents breed fat children" is true, and not just because they might pass on their diets, they pass on a susceptibility to obesity too.

Ole Rodrigo

Obesity is a complex problem, it's much to do with income inequality, poor housing planning, poor transport infrastructure as it is dietary discipline.

Your number one priority with food is calories. After that its quality. If you put people in difficult enough circumstances, quality is a luxury they will put off to a later date. For example most of the jobs we are creating are deskbound that people have to drive to. Not an issue of itself, but could be part of someones particular circumstances that leads to weight gain. The issues we need to tackle are those that allow making good choices easier. We can start with taking the food industry to task over added sugar. Sweden has become the first country to advocate a high fat low carb diet to manage weight and protect against disease. We would do well to follow suit, especially since we have such a strong natural food industry in Ireland.

Anyone who says serious weight problems are the sole responsibility of the individual is naive.

Fukuyama

ror_74 wrote: »

Anyone who says serious weight problems are the sole responsibility of the individual is naive.

This kind of stuff pi55es me off. Anyone with half a functioning brain knows that even food packaged with pictures of green fields and blue skies is bad for you. Simply turning over the packet will reveal as much.

Poverty is the old excuse but it simply doesn't hold true. I know there are multi-packs of crisps and cheap processed food available in supermarkets. However, it's easy to cook a nutritious meal with veg and meat that costs the same - or even less if you shop smart.

Responsibility for your body starts with you. If everyone took this attitude, CocaCola and all the other companies that make packaged poison would adapt.

Driving to work, office jobs and so on are all reasons why people are turning into barely mobile fat sacks. But they're not an excuse.

(This, of course, doesn't apply to young children under 16).

Legs.Eleven

Mint Aero wrote: »

More fat men than fat women?

Discredits everything

Yet women are the only ones who seem to get it in the neck here on Boards.

smurgen wrote: »

Well just because you're a bit fat doesn't mean you're unfit. I've a bit of a gut and I'm as fit as a fiddle.Im 6 3 and I weight 16 stone,I can run ten miles in 1 hour 15. I'm a lot fitter than my thinner friends,especially those that smoke.

And just because you're slim doesn't mean you're healthy either. Spoke to a very slim woman in her late 40s the other days. Her diet? 30 fags a day, a mass produced sandwich, cups of tea and a few sweets but looking at her you could be fooled into thinking she was a healthy woman (if a bit slim).

Ole Rodrigo

Dean0088 wrote: »

This kind of stuff pi55es me off. Anyone with half a functioning brain knows that even food packaged with pictures of green fields and blue skies is bad for you. Simply turning over the packet will reveal as much.

Poverty is the old excuse but it simply doesn't hold true. I know there are multi-packs of crisps and cheap processed food available in supermarkets. However, it's easy to cook a nutritious meal with veg and meat that costs the same - or even less if you shop smart.

Responsibility for your body starts with you. If everyone took this attitude, CocaCola and all the other companies that make packaged poison would adapt.

Driving to work, office jobs and so on are all reasons why people are turning into barely mobile fat sacks. But they're not an excuse.

(This, of course, doesn't apply to young children under 16).

I said its part of the reason. I said personal responsibility is not the full picture. Have you a full time job that you have to drive to ? Do you have to put in extra hours so that you wont be fired when the hatchet comes again ? Do you have kids that need to be collected from school and fed ? If so, you probably realise there arent enough hours in the day to cook every single meal you eat. So you rely on processed food.

Anybody who understands anything about food knows there is no such thing as unhealthy foods ( this is why junk food is not illegal ) - only an unhealthy diet. If you are just out of school then you have no idea of the pressures of career, mortage debt and family put on your time. So maybe you should preface your remarks by speaking for teenagers who live under the generosity of their parents, and have no real world experience worth mentioning.

Fukuyama

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Yet women are the only ones who seem to get it in the neck here on Boards.




And just because you're slim doesn't mean you're healthy either. Spoke to a very slim woman in her late 40s the other days. Her diet? 30 fags a day, a mass produced sandwich, cups of tea and a few sweets but looking at her you could be fooled into thinking she was a healthy woman (if a bit slim).

Indeed. But it's important that such cases aren't used to justify any level of fatness.

Also, I know who I'd rather sit next to on a long plane or coach journey.

Legs.Eleven

Dean0088 wrote: »

Indeed. But it's important that such cases aren't used to justify any level of fatness.

Also, I know who I'd rather sit next to on a long plane or coach journey.

I agree but there's also a very simplistic view that slim = healthy, which is also dangerous. The amount of slim, chain-smoking women I know here shocks me. Lung cancer is the biggest killer among women here in Spain. Only a percent or 2 behind us on the obesity stakes too, which is surprising.

Fukuyama

ror_74 wrote: »

I said its part of the reason. I said personal responsibility is not the full picture. Have you a full time job that you have to drive to ? Do you have to put in extra hours so that you wont be fired when the hatchet comes again ? Do you have kids that need to be collected from school and fed ? If so, you probably realise there arent enough hours in the day to cook every single meal you eat. So you rely on processed food.

Anybody who understands anything about food knows there is no such thing as unhealthy foods ( this is why junk food is not illegal ) - only an unhealthy diet. If you are just out of school then you have no idea of the pressures of career, mortage debt and family put on your time. So maybe you should preface your remarks by speaking for teenagers who live under the generosity of their parents, and have no real world experience worth mentioning.

I don't have kids or a full time job. I'm a fulltime student with a part time job. I cycle in a massive triangle across Dublin each day. I also run and do calisthenics three times a week. This morning I did not want to get up and go out for a run - it was freezing. But I did it and I feel fantastic.

Operation Transformation showed us that people with busy schedules, pressing jobs etc... can make positive changes in their lives. You're basically saying that your boss is the reason you're unhealthy. Give your kids a role model ffs.

You're second point about there being no "unhealthy" food is laughable. I just went into the kitchen and had a look at the back of some of the packets in there (other people's food).

Ingredients like:

Maldodextrin
Extracts
Gum Stabilizers
E numbers all over the place

All this food has pictures of fresh ingredients on the front but it's the kind of stuff that militaries won't even put in ration packs it's so toxic. We now have food that can be stored for years without developing rancidity. Ask yourself if that's healthy to consume.

You just keep on keeping on with your "as part of a 'balanced' diet" crap. That little marketing gem will see you into your 60s where you won't be able to play with your grandkids. If you want to stick your fingers in your ears and claim "poor me! I have a job, a house and a family" go right ahead. See your kids as your jailers. And don't bother taking twenty minutes to make up a few chicken/egg salads to bring into work throughout the week.

kowloon

I've only so much time on the Earth, I'm not going to waste it doing exercise when I could be eating. Muscles are for beasts of burden. Now fetch me another stick of butter wrapped in bacon before I kill you with my mind!

Fukuyama

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

I agree but there's also a very simplistic view that slim = healthy, which is also dangerous. The amount of slim, chain-smoking women I know here shocks me. Lung cancer is the biggest killer among women here in Spain. Only a percent or 2 behind us on the obesity stakes too, which is surprising.

100% agree with you. Ask them to run for a bus and see how fit or healthy they are.

However, in the US, there's a whole new level of Group Think going on among fat people when it comes to thin (or normal) people. Women in particular are demonized for being thin and healthy.

http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/

Anyone who chain smokes their way to a low body fat % is kidding themselves. They might look better in a skirt but they're dying inside. But obesity is presenting huge problems which, I feel, far exceed those of delusional people starving themselves.

foxyboxer

There's a magic bullet cure all for Western diseases.

It's called Running.

"You don't stop running because you get old or ill, you get old and ill because you stop running"

Irish Guitarist

I keep hearing these statistics about how everyone is getting fatter but, apart from on television, I don't actually see any more overweight people now than I ever have. In my 37 years on the planet I've seen only three or four people in real life that were even remotely comparable to those people I've seen on television that can barely move. And one of those people is about fifteen years older than me and has been the same weight for as long as I can remember.

Ole Rodrigo

I put in about 300k per week on the bike myself so I dont have any issues with weight, however I can empathise with those who do. Every week I eat food that contains those ingredients. I'm not unhealthy by any measure I can assure you.

You have no understanding on this subject, so I'll bow out now and wish you all the best.

TomoBhoy

foxyboxer wrote: »

There's a magic bullet cure all for Western diseases.

It's called Running.

"You don't stop running because you get old or ill, you get old and ill because you stop running"

Can running cure Cancer ? A good mate of mine had a stroke in his mid 40's never smoked rarely drank is very healthy ran played 5 a side, I'm sick of this crap when it comes to people, genetics play a major part in peoples lives, I've known families decimated by cancer/strokes/heart problems, its had feck all to do with their day to day diet.

smurgen

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Yet women are the only ones who seem to get it in the neck here on Boards.




And just because you're slim doesn't mean you're healthy either. Spoke to a very slim woman in her late 40s the other days. Her diet? 30 fags a day, a mass produced sandwich, cups of tea and a few sweets but looking at her you could be fooled into thinking she was a healthy woman (if a bit slim).

The thing is and I don't mean to piss you off bit this is from my observations is that women seem to be much more into the aesthetic illusion of fitness than actually being fit. For a lot of women is seems being thin is the goal. It's not good enough for me to look good. I head to the gym exercise because I was to feel stronger and fitter,the fact that I may look a bit better is just an added bonus.
When I was in college I put on some weight on purpose to start playing rugby,I was fitter and stronger than I ever was,in particular I built up my legs. I went up to about 17 stone and never felt better or more confident. Thing was I noticed attention from women dropped off big time. Prior to this I broke my arm and re-broke two days after I got my cast off. Due to not going to the gym and not eating a lot I went down to like 14 st and felt weak but surprisingly enough I was beating the women off with a stick.

Legs.Eleven

Dean0088 wrote: »

100% agree with you. Ask them to run for a bus and see how fit or healthy they are.

However, in the US, there's a whole new level of Group Think going on among fat people when it comes to thin (or normal) people. Women in particular are demonized for being thin and healthy.

http://thisisthinprivilege.tumblr.com/

Anyone who chain smokes their way to a low body fat % is kidding themselves. They might look better in a skirt but they're dying inside. But obesity is presenting huge problems which, I feel, far exceed those of delusional people starving themselves.

True.


Women are demonised full stop about their weight be they slim or fat. Every single thread related to weight on Boards has ALWAYS been a discussion exclusively about women. I've absolutely no doubt that this thread will descend into another one. Even the few comments about how men are starting to take care of themselves on this thread (no mention of women) even if the stats say otherwise is a tell tale sign of what's to come although hopefully I'm proven wrong and a reasonably balanced and mature discussion can be had for once.