What do you recommend for a first time car?

Mikeyalma

Need help pickjng my first car

Zcott

Aim high, Bugatti Veyron.

Failing that, Micra or Clio or 206.

Scortho

Fiesta 1.25.
Small enough to have low insurance but powerful enough to get you up a hill, faster than walking

dgt

Scortho wrote: »

Fiesta 1.25.
Small enough to have low insurance but powerful enough to get you up a hill, faster than walking

+1

Festy zesty is a great starter yoke

hungry hippo 4

nissan or toyota, don't buy any euro scrap.

dutcher

Budget? A 1.2 and 1.4 have same road tax. Punto or fiesta I'd recommend. Or corolla, astra in a 1.4. Should be no difference in your insurance really between a 1.2 and a 1.4 or very little

JohnBoy26

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Need help pickjng my first car

A little more info such as your budget and your requirements will give posters a better idea as to what car to recommend to you.

Ms.Sunshine

I have a 2012 Ford Fiesta and its my first car. I love it!

dgt

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

nissan or toyota, don't buy any euro scrap.

Hahaha best load of non backed up biased bollox I've heard in a while

hungry hippo 4

dgt wrote: »

Hahaha best load of non backed up biased bollox I've heard in a while

Says the guy with the fiesta! What an absolute heap! Show me any fiesta that will outlive a jap.

mikeecho

1L yaris
check the vin, if it was made in japan, you're winning

Mikeyalma

What model would u recommend for them

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

nissan or toyota, don't buy any euro

CianRyan

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

nissan or toyota, don't buy any euro scrap.

Best.
Friend.

Mikeyalma

I didnt knew that now I am looking to spend 5k on it id like the astra and corolla but ppl tel me they kill u insurance is that true

dutcher wrote: »

Budget? A 1.2 and 1.4 have same road tax. Punto or fiesta I'd recommend. Or corolla, astra in a 1.4. Should be no difference in your insurance really between a 1.2 and a 1.4 or very little

Mikeyalma

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

A little more info such as your budget and your requirements will give posters a better idea as to what car to recommend to you.

I am 21 havent driven be for I need the car to go from work and home and getting around I am looking to spend 5k on it but not mad to spend 5k hahaha

CianRyan

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I didnt knew that now I am looking to spend 5k on it id like the astra and corolla but ppl tel me they kill u insurance is that true

Holy god, what age are you? Licence type? Named driver experience?
There's a lot of variables.

What will it be mainly used for? Will you need a big boot?

Mikeyalma

dgt wrote: »

Hahaha best load of non backed up biased bollox I've heard in a while

What would u recommend then

Mikeyalma

I am 21 I havnt driven before its going to be my own insurance and the car would be used for going to work and back and getting around

CianRyan

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I am 21 I havnt driven before its going to be my own insurance and the car would be used for going to work and back and getting around

Well seeing as you've no experience, do not, for the love of god, spend €5000 on your first car. It's not a stab at you but most people end up damaging their first car, little bumps or big crashes, no point in throwing that kind of money at a first car.

Now, having said that, you obviously want something more modern, this is fine. You can spend €1.5-€2k and get a great car but to be honest I'd start looking at cars in the €750-€1000 range. Don't forget you'll have to pay ~€400 in tax a year and probably ~€1500 for insurance if you're lucky.

Look at 95-99 Nissan Almeras, Corollas, Mazda 323s, etc. You're looking at cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable and not-so-important-if-you-crash cars.

Drive them for a year or two and then spend a bit of money on something a bit nicer.

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corolla

131spanner

I had a '00 Micra starting out.

Rust was the biggest problem with them as far as I know. If you got one in good shape you're flying though, engine never failed to start and spare parts a plenty!

Doylers

CianRyan wrote: »

Well seeing as you've no experience, do not, for the love of god, spend €5000 on your first car. It's not a stab at you but most people end up damaging their first car, little bumps or big crashes, no point in throwing that kind of money at a first car.

Now, having said that, you obviously want something more modern, this is fine. You can spend €1.5-€2k and get a great car but to be honest I'd start looking at cars in the €750-€1000 range. Don't forget you'll have to pay ~€400 in tax a year and probably ~€1500 for insurance if you're lucky.

Look at 95-99 Nissan Almeras, Corollas, Mazda 323s, etc. You're looking at cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable and not-so-important-if-you-crash cars.

Drive them for a year or two and then spend a bit of money on something a bit nicer.

Im was int he same boat as that chap, im 21 first time insurance in my name came to 700euro with liberty on a 1.7 diesel astra 2005(2600 euro). I got about 120 off because of my multi policy. Still good though I think for first time insurance girlfriend was crackin its cheaper than hers and shes in her own name longer haha

Mikeyalma

Doylers wrote: »

Im was int he same boat as that chap, im 21 first time insurance in my name came to 700euro with liberty on a 1.7 diesel astra 2005(2600 euro). I got about 120 off because of my multi policy. Still good though I think for first time insurance girlfriend was crackin its cheaper than hers and shes in her own name longer haha

Thats very good I thouth on a 1.7 higher more u are charged and you were only 21 witg liberty

Mikeyalma

I dony wanna spend 5k thats just my own mark where to stop....I was looking at a corolla and astra around 04 yr

JohnBoy26

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I dony wanna spend 5k thats just my own mark where to stop....I was looking at a corolla and astra around 04 yr

Out of the two the Corolla is the better car. A good example can be a bit on the expensive side though.

dutcher

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I dony wanna spend 5k thats just my own mark where to stop....I was looking at a corolla and astra around 04 yr

Grand cars. But check insurance. The higher value of the car will increase insurance.Don't mind that Cian lad saying you should only spend a grand on your first car due to scraping or crashes. That's just complete and utter bull.

dgt

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

Says the guy with the fiesta! What an absolute heap! Show me any fiesta that will outlive a jap.

Still haven't shown us any evidence of this so called jap reliability. Where is it? In the boot? In my sock?

Don't have a festy myself, shows how informed these facts wll be :rolleyes:

Mikeyalma

dutcher wrote: »

Grand cars. But check insurance. The higher value of the car will increase insurance.Don't mind that Cian lad saying you should only spend a grand on your first car due to scraping or crashes. That's just complete and utter bull.

Do you knew any good insurance companies

I wouldnt buy a car for a grand I am looking for a car that will last me a good while

hungry hippo 4

dgt wrote: »

Still haven't shown us any evidence of this so called jap reliability. Where is it? In the boot? In my sock?

Don't have a festy myself, shows how informed these facts wll be :rolleyes:

Im going from personal experience, but to be honest it kind of shows you have absolutely no knowledge about cars if you are willing to recommend a fiesta over the likes of a toyota or early nissan.

The basis of you're whole argument will be i want proof! You go and do a survey and come back and let us know how you get on!

Scortho

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

Im going from personal experience, but to be honest it kind of shows you have absolutely no knowledge about cars if you are willing to recommend a fiesta over the likes of a toyota or early nissan.

The basis of you're whole argument will be i want proof! You go and do a survey and come back and let us know how you get on!

Funniest reply I've ever heard on here.

dgt

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

Im going from personal experience, but to be honest it kind of shows you have absolutely no knowledge about cars if you are willing to recommend a fiesta over the likes of a toyota or early nissan.

The basis of you're whole argument will be i want proof! You go and do a survey and come back and let us know how you get on!

Personal alright.... Nice to get all hormonal over a differing opinion, shows what kind advice on offer from the differeng opinion. Arguement me arse this is like who spilled the milk

Please tell me more, this is a great old laugh :pac:

Mikeyalma

Do ye knew the road tax on a ople astra 1.4..

dutcher

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Do ye knew the road tax on a ople astra 1.4..

https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/menu.do?page=motortaxinforeg

Look up cars on donedeal or carzone and enter the reg into the link above and will show you the rates. Make sure to ring up for quotes as well, over the internet they usually charge you more. I find Liberty the best especially for people starting out.

Mikeyalma

dutcher wrote: »

https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/menu.do?page=motortaxinforeg

Look up cars on donedeal or carzone and enter the reg into the link above and will show you the rates. Make sure to ring up for quotes as well, over the internet they usually charge you more. I find Liberty the best especially for people starting out.

Thanks thats will help I will have start ring in up few knewn insurance companys
me been 21 would that help anyway no

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dutcher

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Thanks thats will help I will have start ring in up few knewn insurance companys
me been 21 would that help anyway no

A small bit yes but really its when your 25.

Mikeyalma

The cls one I dont no about starting on a 3.L lol


ah yeah thats true I am prob going to go for the opel astra cos I heard really bad things about the new shape clio and new shape corsa were my first choice but it seems that very bad cars haha course id pick um

Zoney

Astra 1.4 sounds reasonable. I've a Laguna 1.6 as my first and find it handy enough, I'd only driven a peugeot 106 and the instructors Micra before that.

I do agree with the sentiments Cian had earlier about not spending too much even if those numbers sound a bit low. As regards your own budget - personally I think 3k is a better upper limit than 5k. You should be able to get something in reasonable shape and the better side of the 10 year mark, maybe an 04 or 05. I'd say take some time to find a good deal if you can, not so much on price as much as a good condition example, reasonable mileage (maybe even nicer spec).

I'd recommend really researching the model of car you're thinking of, not so much to rule out particular cars, but being aware of the pitfalls up front, to help in checking over a car you're looking at, and knowing what to ask about given the age and mileage.

A car that age though, you might be best buying locally even if the car seems in good shape, just in case you've to go back with even small issues.

Obviously I'm only partly giving the advice from my own experience, some of it is going on what friends, family, work colleagues advised.

Doylers

Mikeyalma wrote: »

Thats very good I thought on a 1.7 higher more u are charged and you were only 21 with liberty

That was my thinking too, but I got quotes for cars some of which were 1.1 up to a 1.9, the cost of insurance never changed seemed in my instance anyway engine size had no real bearing on my quotes.

Mikeyalma

No this very good at advice thanks regards milage whhat In yiur own a openion is good milage and bad milage....p.s I dont no anything about cars haha sorry for all the Questions lol

Mikeyalma

No this very good at advice thanks regards milage whhat In yiur own a openion is good milage and bad milage....p.s I dont no anything about cars haha sorry for all the Questions lol

CianRyan

Lolling at getting flamed and DGT knowing nothing about cars.

I guess you're right though, Fiestas are rubbish cars. Let's disregard their nimble handling, great reliability and nippy 1.25 engines. Sure a 1.0 Yaris must be miles better.
And if course you're right, spending €5k on a first car is a great idea. It only makes sense to buy a clean car so you can make bollocks if the body work and burn out the clutch then sell the car for 10% of what you paused for it in a year or two.
No one wants cars owned by learners, it kills their value.

And as for DGT, well he's our resident Dr. Frankenstein.

Mikeyalma

I just making sure I dont buy something thats breaks few weeks later

Cleveland Hot Pocket

CianRyan wrote: »

Lolling at getting flamed and DGT knowing nothing about cars.

I guess you're right though, Fiestas are rubbish cars. Let's disregard their nimble handling, great reliability and nippy 1.3 KENT engines. Sure a 1.0 Yaris must be miles better.
And if course you're right, spending €5k on a first car is a great idea. It only makes sense to buy a clean car so you can make bollocks if the body work and burn out the clutch then sell the car for 10% of what you paused for it in a year or two.
No one wants cars owned by learners, it kills their value.

And as for DGT, well he's our resident Dr. Frankenstein.

FYP

dutcher

CianRyan wrote: »

Lolling at getting flamed and DGT knowing nothing about cars.

I guess you're right though, Fiestas are rubbish cars. Let's disregard their nimble handling, great reliability and nippy 1.25 engines. Sure a 1.0 Yaris must be miles better.
And if course you're right, spending €5k on a first car is a great idea. It only makes sense to buy a clean car so you can make bollocks if the body work and burn out the clutch then sell the car for 10% of what you paused for it in a year or two.
No one wants cars owned by learners, it kills their value.

And as for DGT, well he's our resident Dr. Frankenstein.

I think your over emphasizing things here. Me or none of my friends never had any any problems learning to drive and never dented any body work or had scratches like most learner drivers have not as well. Also it is very very difficult to burn out the clutch on a decent car and you should be fine with the clutch after two or three weeks for driving. Also how will people know its a learner car if your planning to sell? All you have to put on the internet is planning on upgrading to a bigger car.You should be fine with the clutch after two weeks of driving and you have the instructors car anyway to burn the clutch out on ha

CianRyan

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I just making sure I dont buy something thats breaks few weeks later

Just because a car's older or cheaper doesn't mean it'll break. I bought my first car for €200, if it hadn't crashed it'd been going strong for years.
Old simple Jap tech I hard to beat for reliability.

dutcher wrote: »

I think your over emphasizing things here. Me or none of my friends never had any any problems learning to drive and never dented any body work or had scratches like most learner drivers have not as well. Also it is very very difficult to burn out the clutch on a decent car and you should be fine with the clutch after two or three weeks for driving. Also how will people know its a learner car if your planning to sell? All you have to put on the internet is planning on upgrading to a bigger car.You should be fine with the clutch after two weeks of driving and you have the instructors car anyway to burn the clutch out on ha

Fair play!
I know when was driving first I was terrible for reversing into tree stumps and the lot. It's a learning curve, **** happens when you're getting used to it. Had I of payed €5k for a car I'd have been going mental but sure it was €200, no harm done.

The clutch depends totally on the driver, I know people driving for years that still ride the clutch and are afraid to go into 5th, revving the bullocks out of the engine.

And it's fairly easy to spot a learner car if you're into cars.
You can tell a lot about a cars history with a test drive and a torch.

Mikeyalma

I am mad in to safe drivin and all that **** so I wouldnt be a boy racer haha

so I would be looking to get a nice car for me to have for a while

CianRyan

Mikeyalma wrote: »

I am mad in to safe drivin and all that **** so I wouldnt be a boy racer haha

so I would be looking to get a nice car for me to have for a while

What's a boy racer car? Anything 1.4 ain't gonna be fast enough to race anything.

I thought the same but I then I got bored of the car after a few months.
I wanted something with a bit more poke or a bit more comfort, I opted for the poke.

Mikeyalma

After all the ppl on here I have no idea what car to pick haha all ones I like were **** haha

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Mikeyalma wrote: »

After all the ppl on here I have no idea what car to pick haha all ones I like were **** haha

Get a nice festy!

dutcher

Everyone on the internet has a problem with every single car ever made. Fiesta, Astra, Micra, Corolla, Yaris are all good cars, and cheaper to fix than other cars if anything goes wrong with them which is the main thing for anyone starting out.