Weirdly Intelligent and Orca Whales

ghogie91

Ok so today I found out im a bit odd compared to 'normal folk'...

The picture of the Orca jumping 15 foot popped up today

While everyone was like 'ooohhh' 'aaahhh' 'woooow'

I thought I would try figure out the acceleration it took the whale to get there factoring in his weight, constant gravitational force and force of water. Basically I wanted to see was this whale more powerful than powerful human made machines

Apparently this isnt normal behaviour?

The girlfriend is a little scared

sheesh

Calculating the power exerted by a killer whale jumping out of the water might not seem normal but on Math it is

Math

Not even once

o1s1n

I thought this thread was going to be about weirdly Intelligent Orca whales

OP, nobody really cares how 'wacky' you are.

Rekop dog

Not that odd really, what's odd is your urge to point out how wacky and different you are.

Artful_Badger

I thought this was about intelligent whales. All I see is a jumping whale and you scaring your GF by doing maths. Tbh, I'm rather disappointed...

How does a basic acceleration equation make anyone "weirdly intelligent"


Become intelligent with this one weird tip?

ghogie91

So what ye are saying that at no point did anyone of ye think 'I wonder what type of power that took to do?'

Potatoeman

ghogie91 wrote: »

Ok so today I found out im a bit odd compared to 'normal folk'...

The picture of the Orca jumping 15 foot popped up today

While everyone was like 'ooohhh' 'aaahhh' 'woooow'

I thought I would try figure out the acceleration it took the whale to get there factoring in his weight, constant gravitational force and force of water. Basically I wanted to see was this whale more powerful than powerful human made machines

Apparently this isnt normal behaviour?

The girlfriend is a little scared

By the whale in your pants :pac:

ghogie91

bluewolf wrote: »

How does a basic acceleration equation make anyone "weirdly intelligent"


Become intelligent with this one weird tip?

exactly my point, thats what was said to me 'weirdly intellegent'

AnonoBoy

Mods please change thread title to Weird, over-inflated sense of self and Orca Whales.

dodderangler

Don't know about the sped its have to reach to get up that far but the power in an orcas tail has enough force to throw a full grown seal or dolphin over 40 feet in the air
Vids on YouTube to non believers

Artful_Badger

ghogie91 wrote: »

So what ye are saying that at no point did anyone of ye think 'I wonder what type of power that took to do?'

Well if you'd tell us the results of you're equations we'd know ! Might be a tad more interesting than just talking about the fact you did it too.

ghogie91

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Well if you'd tell us the results of you're equations we'd know ! Might be a tad more interesting than just talking about the fact you did it too.

Badger, have a go and we can compare

o1s1n

ghogie91 wrote: »

So what ye are saying that at no point did anyone of ye think 'I wonder what type of power that took to do?'

Who cares, just give us the whales we were promised!

Mr. Nice

Well OP, did you figure it out?
If yes, you may be weirdly intelligent (Rainman level 1). If you just wondered and didn't have a clue what speeds, forces etc. were involved, you're just weird.

Mr. Nice

ghogie91 wrote: »

The picture of the Orca jumping 15 foot popped up today

Ahh, THE picture of THE Orca.
Out of interest, how do you know it was jumping 15 foot (sic)?
Was that 15 foot (sic) above the surface of the water?
Apart from acceleration, what other factors do you think were at play?

BillyMitchel

Very disappointing. Really expected some cool vids or something. Then you don't even have decency to post the answer to the question.

You suck ass OP. donkey ass.

Mr. Nice

ghogie91 wrote: »

The girlfriend is a little scared

Of Orcas or of you?

ghogie91

o1s1n wrote: »

Who cares, just give us the whales we were promised!

OK :cool:

Overheal

over a dozen posts in and the OP doesn't answer how fast that Orca had to be going, or how powerful it had to be.

Look, just give me the ms^-1 and the Newtons already. Jerk.

ghogie91

Mr. Nice wrote: »

Ahh, THE picture of THE Orca.
Out of interest, how do you know it was jumping 15 foot (sic)?
Was that 15 foot (sic) above the surface of the water?
Apart from acceleration, what other factors do you think were at play?

15 foot from the surface of the water as documented

there are a few variables at play here...

BillyMitchel

ghogie91 wrote: »

OK :cool:

Not good enough OP. back to the drawing board for you! No one gives a **** about dumbass penguins anyway.

We want to see some intelligent whales doing some straight up whale shît.

opr

Can we turn this into a thread about intelligent killer whales? Incredible creatures.

I'll go, amazing story about a baby killer whale who got lost and separated from his family off the coast of Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YzeOnF1I58

Opr

MadYaker

You'd have to know the weight of the whale, might be difficult to find out. I suppose you could find a rough estimate easily enough.

Idle Passerby

Wondering about things doesn't make you intelligent. Figuring out the answer after working out the equation might be considered clever. Instantly knowing might have been worthy of being called "weirdly intelligent". Maybe your friends are just a bit dim.

bnt

If I had the mass of the whale, I would try the "change in potential energy" method on the back of an envelope: Power = m.g.h/t
m = the mass, g = the gravitational constant (9.8 m/s²), h = the change in height, and t = the time the jump took. Note that you'd measure the height from the centre of the whale, not its nose or other extremity.

What?

AnonoBoy

This thread hasn't really panned out as you'd hoped has it OP?

Overheal

bnt wrote: »

If I had the mass of the whale, I would try the "change in potential energy" method on the back of an envelope: Power = m.g.h/t
m = the mass, g = the gravitational constant (9.8 m/s²), h = the change in height, and t = the time the jump took. Note that you'd measure the height from the centre of the whale, not its nose or other extremity.

What?

dont forget drag...

131spanner

Free Willy was a good movie.

The Backwards Man

If killer whales are so smart why do they eat raw penguins?

AnonoBoy

131spanner wrote: »

Free Willy was a good movie.

Yeah but in real life it turned out Willy was guilty all the time and the campaign to get him released was severely misinformed about the facts of the case.













Actually that could have been The Hurricane. I always get them mixed up.

kfod

I think the whale would have to leave the water at about 9.466m/s to reach 15 feet.

Stainless_Steel

Did you ever try to work out the velocity of a football on the xbox after taking a wicked free kick with Stevie G?

No? Well then I'm better than you.

sebastianlieken

"WILL HE LIVE A NORMAL LIFE?!?!"

"No, he'll be an engineer"

Pug160

Mr. Nice wrote: »

Ahh, THE picture of THE Orca.
Out of interest, how do you know it was jumping 15 foot (sic)?
Was that 15 foot (sic) above the surface of the water?
Apart from acceleration, what other factors do you think were at play?

Technically, it's incorrect. But how many people have you heard saying ''feet'' rather than ''foot''? Like, for example: ''look at that man over there, he must be about 6 feet tall''. I've never heard someone saying that. Yanks tend to say ''feet'' more often, I have noticed.

Maximus Alexander

OP you are the first person ever to calculate the force required to elevate a mass to a particular altitude. With that kind of intelligence, you could revolutionize space travel.

Son Of A Vidic

ghogie91 wrote: »

The girlfriend is a little scared

OP, we all know you don't have a girlfriend.

bnt

kfod wrote: »

I think the whale would have to leave the water at about 9.466m/s to reach 15 feet.

don't forget drag...

dodderangler

bnt wrote: »

don't forget drag...

Maybe the whale doesn't want drag. Maybe it has a girlfriend Nd is happy

Tar.Aldarion

Mammals hate her!

Find out the secret orca whales don't want you to know!

Irish Guitarist

Whales can't jump that high at all. There's a trampoline under the water.

kfod

bnt wrote: »

don't forget drag...

Oh for an ideal world

Capt'n Midnight

ghogie91 wrote: »

I thought I would try figure out the acceleration it took the whale to get there factoring in his weight, constant gravitational force and force of water. Basically I wanted to see was this whale more powerful than powerful human made machines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQDWDxHeXU

Miss Lockhart

I blame the Big Bang Theory for all these nerd wannabes.

Hunchback

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

I blame the Big Bang Theory for all these nerd wannabes.

Sorry, bit off topic, but...
To be fair I'd prefer somebody emulating what they see on the Big Bang over somebody being as publicly stupid as those fuc&wits on The Only Way is Essex.

danniemcq

ummmm I can't get the full calculations right now but to move an average killer whale through water you need a crap ton of force.

but from another calculation on force required to move a boat i get this

fw= .5xpxAxV^2

so with fw being force p being water density and A is area i get

.5x1020x(5.1x3.1) you get

fw=8063.1kg but this is all messed up as it doesn't count a lot of crap so

I went back and looked at other examples and worked out some other stuff, considering that feck it physics is a bit broke

6 t whale, jumps 4.5m and stayed in the air for a second.

that gives 270kw of energy.

Thanks to Wolfram alpha that means

362.1hp or

~~ 0.67 × power output of an 18-wheeler (semi trailer) truck engine (~~ 400 kW )
~~ 0.31 × power of the most powerful series-production and road-going car (Bugatti Veyron Super Sport) (~~ 1200 PS )
~~ ( 0.21 ~~ 1/5 ) × power output of a P-51 Mustang fighter airplane (~~ 1.3 MW )

American households supplied by this power:
| (45 to 90) households

Pherekydes

Jeez, no one's mentioned yet that Orca isn't a whale?

Maximus Alexander

Pherekydes wrote: »

Jeez, no one's mentioned yet that Orca isn't a whale?

Apparently there are no marine biologists frequenting After Hours.

danniemcq

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Apparently there are no marine biologists frequenting After Hours.

Fine they are the largest member of the dolphin family, happy?

Maximus Alexander

danniemcq wrote: »

Fine they are the largest member of the dolphin family, happy?

Don't know why you quoted me? I have no problem with people not knowing that. Why would you?

They're commonly called killer whales, even by people who work with them. Super pedantic to call people up on that to be honest.

Jaxxy

Has anyone seen Blackfish? Plenty of weird intelligence there. Of the real kind.