Raw 18/11/13 *Spoilers*

JP Liz V1

Raw goes country tonight live from Nashville with the final show before SS (which could have a poor buy rate given the card so far)

beakerjoe

Its an awful card so far.

I used to love back in the day when a card was already confirmed about 3 weeks before the show. Especially SS, i used to love seeing who was paired with who on the teams. Its an awful build up to it this year, they literally don't know whos going to be used or wrestle which makes me not bothered as i think most of the card will be filler.

The could of easily had a 5 team match with the GT-YES team plus the Usos and Miz versus the Wyatts and the Shield



Used to love the build up to the rumble as well as they named superstars who would compete in or debut in it. I remember seeing that Vader was debuting and I couldnt wait to see it.

gnfnrhead

Undecided on if I should stay up tonight or not.

Rjd2

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its an awful card so far.

I used to love back in the day when a card was already confirmed about 3 weeks before the show. Especially SS, i used to love seeing who was paired with who on the teams. Its an awful build up to it this year, they literally don't know whos going to be used or wrestle which makes me not bothered as i think most of the card will be filler.

The could of easily had a 5 team match with the GT-YES team plus the Usos and Miz versus the Wyatts and the Shield



Used to love the build up to the rumble as well as they named superstars who would compete in or debut in it. I remember seeing that Vader was debuting and I couldnt wait to see it.

The obvious match was to do the six on six that they teased at the end of Raw last week. They may still do that but to say its has being left a little to late is an understatement. They need a monster Raw tonight because the current card is dismal and will totally flop.

Surprising they left it so late,previous Survivor Series have flopped before because of lazy booking and they are coming of a very poorly drawing Summerfest.

Ah well sure they know best!:rolleyes:

beakerjoe

they are coming of a very poorly drawing Summerfest.

Poor Jeremy Piven :P:P:P

CSF

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Undecided on if I should stay up tonight or not.

Don't. I've found Raw so much more appealing with the fast-forward option lately.

beakerjoe

CSF wrote: »

Don't. I've found Raw so much more appealing with the fast-forward option lately.

I always feel like i made the wrong decision when i stay up.... too many ads and a knack of tuning in to a bad episode have made me watch it the next day.

I cant remember the last time i stayed up and enjoyed it.

gnfnrhead

CSF wrote: »

Don't. I've found Raw so much more appealing with the fast-forward option lately.

If I dont stay up, I only watch AJ and then turn it off. Staying up is the only way I'll watch more than that.

CSF

gnfnrhead wrote: »

If I dont stay up, I only watch AJ and then turn it off. Staying up is the only way I'll watch more than that.

Last few weeks, you'd have missed nothing. To summarise, Big Show is super tough, Wyatts, super tough, Cena superman tough. Everyone else, not so tough.

CastorTroy

3MB do country?

Wyatt Family with banjos?

GTR63

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Undecided on if I should stay up tonight or not.

Ah the first hour an a half do normally be so bad I do head to bed long before its over.

Charisteas

I'll be devastated if we don't see The Honky Tonk Man or Mickie James tonight.

beakerjoe

Charisteas wrote: »

I'll be devastated if we don't see The Honky Tonk Man or Mickie James tonight.

Id be surprised in James will appear. HTM though could be a possibility.

I have thoughts of him now in the 2001 rumble in my head, great cameo there.

JP Liz V1

Would love a repeat of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi16Xiwt7sQ

Charisteas

beakerjoe wrote: »

I have thoughts of him now in the 2001 rumble in my head, great cameo there.

Think he was on Raw recently doing a skit with 3MB. Really want to see him smack Miz with his guitar tonight.

J. Marston

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Would love a repeat of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi16Xiwt7sQ

Cena and Orton to do a tribute to it.

Actually, Randy would still manage to make that dull.

Lithium93_

Bit of trivia regarding slightly unrelated to tonight's RAW, today marks exactly a year since The Shield debuted

Professional Griefer

The 12 man tag match should be brilliant.

gnfnrhead

12 man tag that should have happened at the PPV is happening tonight.

After Triple H talks for about 45 minutes :pac:

andyman

So they have the 12 man tag match tonight instead of Survivor Series. Sure, that makes plenty of sense.

gnfnrhead

andyman wrote: »

So they have the 12 man tag match tonight instead of Survivor Series. Sure, that makes plenty of sense.

WWE logic.

andyman

That wasn't bad from Orton, in fairness.

andyman

I love Brad Maddox

Insect Overlord

I Brad Maddox!

gnfnrhead

Funny, we were talking about Maddox's in ring ability earlier and now he's facing Orton.

TheBantam

Maddox beats Orton and become number one contender. Yesssss!

A Brad Maddox Guy

I'm backing Maddox for this one :pac:

gnfnrhead

Also, poor AJ.

Have a feeling she will be losing to Vickie.

Jester252

I would love to see the deal breaker

TheBantam

Are we meant to know he's a wrestler? Or is he just meant to be a gm and have no wrestling experience in kayfabe world?

gnfnrhead

Orton forgot the table wasnt set up to break apparently. The middle monitor is usually missing when it's going to be broken.

andyman

Come on Big E!

gnfnrhead

Hoping for a new champion here. Either way, cant see Axel winning. New champ or a DQ finish for a Survivor Series rematch.

andyman wrote: »

Come on Big E!

This is why grammar is important! :pac:

Jester252

Love to see Big E get the IC yet I know it won't happen..... tonight

IanMc666

Would also love to see Big E get the IC title too, if not tonight then soon for sure.

GTR63

Bret, Booker and Foley. Ugh I feel ill

gnfnrhead

GTR63 wrote: »

Bret, Booker and Foley. Ugh I feel ill

Was just wondering what the point was. Just use the normal wrestlers instead of wheeling out the legends to talk shite for a couple of seconds at a time.

GTR63

gnfnrhead wrote: »

12 man tag that should have happened at the PPV is happening tonight.

WWE are paying respect to fans like me who wait for rematches on tv the next week after a PPV by cancelling a match then doing it before the PPV :pac:

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Was just wondering what the point was. Just use the normal wrestlers instead of wheeling out the legends to talk shite for a couple of seconds at a time.

Bret what did you think of that last match?

gnfnrhead

I wonder if this is the end of the Axel push? He badly needs Heyman so splitting them cant be good for him. Reckon Big E takes the gold, Axel hangs around for a bit so that Lesnar can murder him upon his return.

IanMc666

Ah deadly Gwan Big E.

andyman

dat pop tho

TheBantam

Good stuff! Title was wasted on Axel

Professional Griefer

BIG E!!

Jester252

YES YES YES Thank god

gnfnrhead

gnfnrhead wrote: »

I wonder if this is the end of the Axel push? He badly needs Heyman so splitting them cant be good for him. Reckon Big E takes the gold, Axel hangs around for a bit so that Lesnar can murder him upon his return.

Correct so far!

Liked the dig at NXT. "Big E winning his first title" :pac:

GTR63

Still waiting for a Declan Nerney mention WWE :mad:
Come on to fúck :mad: :mad:

andyman

gnfnrhead wrote: »

This is why grammar is important! :pac:

I'm pretty sure after that, grammar is irrelevant :pac:

Jester252

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Correct so far!

Liked the dig at NXT. "Big E winning his first title" :pac:

NXT is sometimes not part of the WWE universe.

gnfnrhead

Seriously?

GTR63

Kaitlyn can sit on my anything

gnfnrhead

JBL is right, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.