Cheap Tablet from Tmart - €38

Blue Crystal

Ive been doing a bit of shopping on tmart recently (this is the last post i swear!) My sister who is only 8 and has a mental disability and my dad thought it would be a good idea to get her a tablet for christmas. Not knowing if she would use it or not i decided to buy a cheap android one at first

I eventually chose this one for €38 odd euro
http://www.tmart.com/7-Capacitive-Touch-Screen-Android-4.0-4GB-Tablet-PC-with-Camera-Wifi-TF-Black_p157005.html
Mainly because it is a capacitive touch screen, has android 4.0, has a front camera so I can skype her. Along with microsd slot its a bargain imho.
Reviews suggest the camera is 1.3mp not .3 as described so thats a bonus

Bad points:No bluetooth, its cheap and chineese, fashion concious of us may be embarassed to show it around.

homingbird

Another bad point is the extra charges the postman will ask you for at the door. the customs will put their value on it not the 38 euro you pay & charge you on that .

Blue Crystal

homingbird wrote: »

Another bad point is the extra charges the postman will ask you for at the door. the customs will put their value on it not the 38 euro you pay & charge you on that .

Not everyone gets stung, plus most of the chineese firms put a low value on the item on the customs declaration, i havent been stung yet

roboshatner

customs will grab that

zom

Yes - it was sold in that price almost year ago and there were like hundreds of them ordered and delivered to Ireland at same time - customs they got a little harvesting as they added 15 euro to be paid to each of them (if I remember correctly).

Dozen Wicked Words

Had a similar tablet, with similar spec from China and it's like pulling teeth trying to do anything with it. Apps force closing more often than working, battery gone in under an hour, random shut downs, phantom screen touches, unresponsive screen. Dire.

Maybe the OP's choice will be better though.

Blue Crystal

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Had a similar tablet, with similar spec from China and it's like pulling teeth trying to do anything with it. Apps force closing more often than working, battery gone in under an hour, random shut downs, phantom screen touches, unresponsive screen. Dire.

Maybe the OP's choice will be better though.

Yeah like I said its for my sister she wont be doing anything intensive with it plus I always have PayPal if things go wrong

gerryk

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Had a similar tablet, with similar spec from China and it's like pulling teeth trying to do anything with it. Apps force closing more often than working, battery gone in under an hour, random shut downs, phantom screen touches, unresponsive screen. Dire.

Maybe the OP's choice will be better though.

Really? I have the same one, and get at least a movie's worth of battery. I also use Skype, Netflix, Plex and Spotify with pretty good degree of success. I guess their QA is not all that great. Still, it was decent for the kiddies.

airbus125

click where it says it ships from, if u select from the us it only 36.89 and might even get through customs easier if its from the us

snubbleste

8% off a minimum $30 spend: onsalea

jjbrien

Im tempted to buy one but the customs charge worries me

Blue Crystal

jjbrien wrote: »

Im tempted to buy one but the customs charge worries me

Go for it, highly doubt you'll get stung as they declare a very low value on the custom declaration

Big Nelly

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Screen-Allwinner-1-0GHz-Android-Tablet/dp/B0099NPR4S/ref=tpi_image_4?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_i=429892031&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=235697367&pf_rd_r=1E15NW8WTS2TJ6MTJW3B&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_t=101

I got something similar to this, as you buy from Amazon there is no catch on this end. I shipped via parcel motel.

deegs

Big Nelly wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Screen-Allwinner-1-0GHz-Android-Tablet/dp/B0099NPR4S/ref=tpi_image_4?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_i=429892031&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_p=235697367&pf_rd_r=1E15NW8WTS2TJ6MTJW3B&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_t=101

I got something similar to this, as you buy from Amazon there is no catch on this end. I shipped via parcel motel.

Had 3 on order from tmart last week but cancelled after several days without any order status change and dodgy customer reviews of tmart.

dave1982

Would these be good for kids for games etc?

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Guys customs dont grab and put some arbitrary price on something, they contact you and ask for payment details, usually forward on a paypal receipt...Even if they do get it, at this price....they will add fuk all


http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html


C. Consignments of Negligible Value
Consignments not exceeding an intrinsic value of €150 may be imported from outside the EU without payment of Customs Duty. Intrinsic value is the value of the goods alone and does not include insurance and freight). Consignments not exceeding a total customs value of €22 may be imported without payment of VAT. (Customs value is the value of the goods plus insurance and freight (which includes postage costs (CIF value). However, there is no relief (from Customs Duty, Excise Duty, other duties or VAT) under this negligible value provision for importations of tobacco, tobacco products, alcohol products, perfumes or toilet waters irrespective of their value.

Where the Customs Duty on a consignment of goods amounts to less than €10 it will not be collected. Similarly, VAT liability amounting to less than or equal to €6 will not be collected. No similar rule applies in the case of Excise Duty which will always be collected on products liable to it.

paddyp

Calliope White Book wrote: »

Guys customs dont grab and put some arbitrary price on something, they contact you and ask for payment details, usually forward on a paypal receipt...Even if they do get it, at this price....they will add fuk all


http://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/leaflets/pn1882.html


C. Consignments of Negligible Value
Consignments not exceeding an intrinsic value of €150 may be imported from outside the EU without payment of Customs Duty. Intrinsic value is the value of the goods alone and does not include insurance and freight). Consignments not exceeding a total customs value of €22 may be imported without payment of VAT. (Customs value is the value of the goods plus insurance and freight (which includes postage costs (CIF value). However, there is no relief (from Customs Duty, Excise Duty, other duties or VAT) under this negligible value provision for importations of tobacco, tobacco products, alcohol products, perfumes or toilet waters irrespective of their value.

Where the Customs Duty on a consignment of goods amounts to less than €10 it will not be collected. Similarly, VAT liability amounting to less than or equal to €6 will not be collected. No similar rule applies in the case of Excise Duty which will always be collected on products liable to it.

€38 x 0.23 = €8.74 VAT

An post handling fee €6

Total €52.74

Blue Crystal

paddyp wrote: »

€38 x 0.23 = €8.74 VAT

An post handling fee €6

Total €52.74

IF you get nabbed, I havent gotten nabbed yet for anything from china, that includes numerous phones from dx

Akrasia

I've gotten caught both times

Better off using amazon is there is not too much money in the difference. I would say that these days you're more likely to get caught by customs which will just annoy more as it's a further delay and expense. Amazon direct to Ireland or through parcel motel will be a lot quicker than ordering from China or Hong Kong. Dx.com can take over a month easily. And easier and quicker to return something through Amazon.

deegs

paddyp wrote: »

€38 x 0.23 = €8.74 VAT

An post handling fee €6

Total €52.74

It does seem cheaper to buy one from the UK.

Big Nelly

dave1982 wrote: »

Would these be good for kids for games etc?

My young fellow has 1, uses for browsing and some games.....ticks along grand. As expected for price the battery isnt great but for games is grand. Also has Kindle app on it so greta because I just download the free books for him and buy a couple and uses it mostly for this.

For the money it is great, I got one and another guy who uses it for browsing and just PP app etc. After he bought there must have been about 10-12 people in office have bought for kids and no complaints so far......buying off Amazon protects you from a lot of the crap other people will put you through!

It does take a bit to get in so would recommend ordering now if want for Xmas.....think it took about 3 weeks to get mine but then again some people only took a week.....they are coming from China/?? so if not in stock when you order it takes longer but ships to company and then to you so not caught from Amazon

wacotaco

Thinking about getting one of these for my mother for xmas. I notice alot of you have only bought them for your kids , is it very basic? She would just be using it for regular browsing. How would it compare to the more expensive ones.

gerryk

wacotaco wrote: »

Thinking about getting one of these for my mother for xmas. I notice alot of you have only bought them for your kids , is it very basic? She would just be using it for regular browsing. How would it compare to the more expensive ones.

Pretty cheap and crappy, to be honest. I bought one as an alternative to getting a portable DVD player from LIDL to keep my daughter occupied on long journeys. I was under no illusion that it was a 'real tablet'.

If you don't want to spend huge amounts of money, I have the Samsung Galaxy 2, 7inch for less than 100 yoyos. You won't get any 'real' usage from a tablet that you get for less that this.

wacotaco

gerryk wrote: »

Pretty cheap and crappy, to be honest. I bought one as an alternative to getting a portable DVD player from LIDL to keep my daughter occupied on long journeys. I was under no illusion that it was a 'real tablet'.

If you don't want to spend huge amounts of money, I have the Samsung Galaxy 2, 7inch for less than 100 yoyos. You won't get any 'real' usage from a tablet that you get for less that this.

When you say real usage what do you mean? What makes this one more 'crappy' to the other more expensive ones.

Blue Crystal

wacotaco wrote: »

When you say real usage what do you mean? What makes this one more 'crappy' to the other more expensive ones.

A lot of brand snobbery tbh

gerryk

wacotaco wrote: »

When you say real usage what do you mean? What makes this one more 'crappy' to the other more expensive ones.

Blue Crystal wrote: »

A lot of brand snobbery tbh

@Blue Crystal... not really... the main differentiators for me are:

512MB RAM vs. a current industry 'low bar' of 1GB
Slow, single core CPU, vs a baseline of slow quadcore or dualcore
4GB storage, with nearly half going to the OS
No bluetooth

Spending another 60 or 70 euros would get a dual-core CPU + 1GB RAM, 16GB storage and Bluetooth. In other words, a real tablet.

keithclancy

Blue Crystal wrote: »

A lot of brand snobbery tbh

IMO its because the Chinese stuff is usually underpowered and its so crap it ends up under a table somewhere or in a drawer.

On the other side my older model Nexus 7 sees use every day and is a pleasure to use.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Ive had cheap chinese tablets in the past and they were a scourge, have a samsung and nexus now and they are great, Id keep an eye out for reduced to clear galaxy tab 2 or old nexus if I was personally looking for a cheap tab..but this would be grand for young kids

IRCA

Blue Crystal wrote: »

Ive been doing a bit of shopping on tmart recently (this is the last post i swear!) My sister who is only 8 and has a mental disability and my dad thought it would be a good idea to get her a tablet for christmas. Not knowing if she would use it or not i decided to buy a cheap android one at first

I eventually chose this one for €38 odd euro
http://www.tmart.com/7-Capacitive-Touch-Screen-Android-4.0-4GB-Tablet-PC-with-Camera-Wifi-TF-Black_p157005.html
Mainly because it is a capacitive touch screen, has android 4.0, has a front camera so I can skype her. Along with microsd slot its a bargain imho.
Reviews suggest the camera is 1.3mp not .3 as described so thats a bonus

Bad points:No bluetooth, its cheap and chineese, fashion concious of us may be embarassed to show it around.

Hi

Trying to avoid the "cheap chinese tablets are crap" argument, what I can add in my expereince having owned a couple of Allwinners is;

1. At this price don't expect miracles, poor battery life is a given (2 hours if you're lucky)
2. The pysical screens are prone to severe scratching - no gorrilla glas here!
3. Android 4.0 is a little old but perfectly fine for the basiscs (Youtube, playstore etc...)
4. But.. if you need to do a hard reset, and there is no physical reset button you could be in for a world of hurt - many of the processors use a vol switch/power combo to drop into reset mode which can be very tricky and doesn't always work - and believe me it is very easy to get to a state where you need to reset (e.g. google Pattern Locked on a tablet and you'll see what I mean.) I would urge anyone getting one of these to immediately activate USB Debugging as soon as you get it to give you some chance of resetting it.

For the price they are fine entry level machines for folks who don't have a couple of hundred euros for a "decent" tablet that the kids will probab;y break anyway. That said, there are plenty of tablets in the €100 range in bricks and mortar stores now that would be a better option (e.g. versus 7" @ €99 various places)

And finally ... good luck with getting anything before Christmas from China, if this is from Santa better have a backup - regardless of the shipping promises, 3 weeks can be very optimistic

Well thats my 2 cents for what it worth!

JP

Blue Crystal

IRCA wrote: »

Hi

Trying to avoid the "cheap chinese tablets are crap" argument, what I can add in my expereince having owned a couple of Allwinners is;

1. At this price don't expect miracles, poor battery life is a given (2 hours if you're lucky)
2. The pysical screens are prone to severe scratching - no gorrilla glas here!
3. Android 4.0 is a little old but perfectly fine for the basiscs (Youtube, playstore etc...)
4. But.. if you need to do a hard reset, and there is no physical reset button you could be in for a world of hurt - many of the processors use a vol switch/power combo to drop into reset mode which can be very tricky and doesn't always work - and believe me it is very easy to get to a state where you need to reset (e.g. google Pattern Locked on a tablet and you'll see what I mean.) I would urge anyone getting one of these to immediately activate USB Debugging as soon as you get it to give you some chance of resetting it.

For the price they are fine entry level machines for folks who don't have a couple of hundred euros for a "decent" tablet that the kids will probab;y break anyway. That said, there are plenty of tablets in the €100 range in bricks and mortar stores now that would be a better option (e.g. versus 7" @ €99 various places)

And finally ... good luck with getting anything before Christmas from China, if this is from Santa better have a backup - regardless of the shipping promises, 3 weeks can be very optimistic

Well thats my 2 cents for what it worth!

JP

Thanks thats a very comprehensive review, despite all that i reckon its worth a punt

dave1982

I got a DS from Hong kong in 4 days I was shocked, hopefully Tmart will deliver before Christmas:(

Akrasia

The very cheap tablets are not worth it
I had an allwinner A-13 tablet that was 70 euros delivered from china
The wifi kept dropping
the battery was rubbish
the screen got really badly scratched
the power button broke
the screen developed dead spots where your touches didn't register which made the tablet unusable

It lasted a month or two and now it's dead


I have just taken delivery of another chinese tablet
the AINOL AX1. it has the same quad core processer used in other tablets which retail at 3 times the price over here.

it has 3G built in and the 3g works really well. I just popped in my 3 payg all you can eat data sim card and it worked straight away with a good reception.
This would be really handy if you plan on using this tablet to keep the kids happy on long journeys in the car.
To get a 3g tablet here, you're looking at minimum 200 euros for a lower spec model

it cost 105 euros (or 135 if you get caught for customs (VAT)
This one has a quad core processer and 1 gb of ram
Immediately it feels more solid
the screen is bright but the viewing angle is narrow and the tablet is impressively responsive

Avoid the very bottom of the tablet market, but if you get a recognised brand and don't go for the cheapest possible option, you should be able to get a decent tablet for a lot cheaper than the name brands over here.

Sappy404

IRCA wrote: »

Hi

Trying to avoid the "cheap chinese tablets are crap" argument, what I can add in my expereince having owned a couple of Allwinners is;

1. At this price don't expect miracles, poor battery life is a given (2 hours if you're lucky)

2 hours of browsing? Video?

jantheman91

You'll be stung by the pricks that work customs. Has happened me far too many times.

keithclancy

jantheman91 wrote: »

You'll be stung by the pricks that work customs. Has happened me far too many times.

You mean the guys that are doing their job ?

jantheman91

keithclancy wrote: »

You mean the guys that are doing their job ?

Pricks, yes.

IRCA

Sappy404 wrote: »

2 hours of browsing? Video?

General usage (games/browsing/video) - didn't keep an exact log, but in the end junior had it plugged in most of the time

roboshatner

Totally agree with you.

dave1982

Mine is after showing up with swiss post Singapore

21.11.2013 16:24 Swiss Post Singapore Accepted from sender
21.11.2013 16:24 Swiss Post Singapore Arrival at international place of exchange
21.11.2013 16:24 Swiss Post Singapore Send item abroad (Export)
21.11.2013 16:30 Swiss Post Singapore Send item abroad (Export)
21.11.2013 16:30 Swiss Post Singapore Send item abroad (Export)

snubbleste

Tmart spend $50 get $12 off coupon: B12
Change the currency settings to USD, add a cheap item to put you over $50
= really cheap tablet

Blue Crystal

snubbleste wrote: »

Tmart spend $50 get $12 off coupon: B12
Change the currency settings to USD, add a cheap item to put you over $50
= really cheap tablet

Great Idea!! shame I already bought mine

snubbleste

Blue Crystal wrote: »

Great Idea!! shame I already bought mine

Well actually the coupon code does not work - not valid with deals. so just as well you bought yours

dave1982

Anybody have update on their shipping status mine is departing border country since the 21st of Nov

eimerom

dave1982 wrote: »

Anybody have update on their shipping status mine is departing border country since the 21st of Nov

Mine is still as follows "2013-11-24 17:50:15 Pending 2013-11-24 17:50:15 Waiting Your order is being processed."
Money taken out of account straight away but 12 days on now and no update . What's the chances of having these by Christmas, anyone have any in transit yet????

dave1982

eimerom wrote: »

Mine is still as follows "2013-11-24 17:50:15 Pending 2013-11-24 17:50:15 Waiting Your order is being processed."
Money taken out of account straight away but 12 days on now and no update . What's the chances of having these by Christmas, anyone have any in transit yet????

Get onto them ask why its not shipped

dave1982

Mine has arrived in ireland:D

peterk675

dave1982 wrote: »

Mine has arrived in ireland:D

Dave wondering when you ordered this, how long did it take? Getting very worried mine wont be here for xmass?

Wizard

Mine was delivered today, is grand for the price, little one will be delighted

Dan_Solo

Wizard wrote: »

Mine was delivered today, is grand for the price, little one will be delighted

Customs?

dave1982

peterk675 wrote: »

Dave wondering when you ordered this, how long did it take? Getting very worried mine wont be here for xmass?

Just checked there I ordered the 17th are you checking the tracking once in Ireland it will show up on an post tracking.Mine was a christmas gift was afraid it would not arrive.Swiss post tracking was useless