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Quantum physics proves that there IS an afterlife

  • 15-11-2013 12:02am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭


    Very Interesting article, really make you think.

    Robert Lanza claims the theory of biocentrism says death is an illusion
    He said life creates the universe, and not the other way round
    This means space and time don't exist in the linear fashion we think it does
    He uses the famous double-split experiment to illustrate his point
    And if space and time aren't linear, then death can't exist in 'any real sense' either

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2503370/Quantum-physics-proves-IS-afterlife-claims-scientist.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    Eh... What?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    REPENT !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    Yeah and they'll have an article next week about how the afterlife gives you cancer. Fsck the daily mail, right in the neck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    He didn't prove there's an afterlife he just defines death and afterlife in a different way than the conventional idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    Putting Quantum Physics and Afterlife in the same scentence is like putting oil and water in the same jug, they just don't mix.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Evelyn Cusack


    sometimes I imagine that the belly button fluff i have is like a cluster of galaxies and there are beings within pondering there very existence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Yeah, death

    The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
    No traveller returns


    Hamlet, Act III, Sc. I


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭JimFin


    "BARMAN - two of whatever the boys are having"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    BREAKING NEWS! There is an afterlife!

    Source: Daily Mail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    The problem with Quantum Physics is that you can't tell the ridiculous from the sublime because they both they appear equally ridiculous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭.Henry Sellers.


    Quantam Leap was a great show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    In before someone mentions Deepak Chopra and his Quantum...................something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Vexing how sh1tty newspapers such as the Daily Mail always say 'says Scientist' as if everything a scientist says is true or somehow holds automatic validity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭Ace Attorney


    I thought scientists dont understand quantum physics yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    This sounds like some Deepak Chopra level bull**** :pac:

    Edit: God damnit Duggy! GET OUT OF MY MIND!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    I thought scientists dont understand quantum physics yet

    Well I know I don't.

    *not a scientist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Jernal wrote: »
    The problem with Quantum Physics is that you can't tell the ridiculous from the sublime because they both they appear equally ridiculous.

    I have always considered the idea of the conscious mind 'creating' the Universe an interesting one.

    Death is an end to everything as you know it, rather than the end of you. Time & space cease to exist after your passing. Incredible concept when you think about it.

    The problem with death is that is often expressed as a continuous state - "he's dead" is used in favour of "he died".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    keith16 wrote: »
    Death is an end to everything as you know it, rather than the end of you

    Using that logic, explain why brain damage is a thing...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    It really is very interesting.
    Theoretical physicists Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow recently stated:
    There is no way to remove the observer — us — from our perceptions of the world … In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past, like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities.”
    If we, the observer, collapse these possibilities (that is, the past and future) then where does that leave evolutionary theory, as described in our schoolbooks? Until the present is determined, how can there be a past? The past begins with the observer, us, not the other way around as we’ve been taught.
    That is so powerfull when you think about it, how can there be a past if the present is not determined.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    So, now the only thing that is certain is f`cken taxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Jernal wrote: »
    The problem with Quantum Physics is that you can't tell the ridiculous from the sublime because they both they appear equally ridiculous.

    If you think you understand Quantum Physics, you don't understand Quantum Physics.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    In before someone mentions Deepak Chopra and his Quantum...................something.

    Bullsh*t. The word you're looking for is bullsh*t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    It really is very interesting.
    Theoretical physicists Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow recently stated:
    There is no way to remove the observer — us — from our perceptions of the world … In classical physics, the past is assumed to exist as a definite series of events, but according to quantum physics, the past, like the future, is indefinite and exists only as a spectrum of possibilities.”
    If we, the observer, collapse these possibilities (that is, the past and future) then where does that leave evolutionary theory, as described in our schoolbooks? Until the present is determined, how can there be a past? The past begins with the observer, us, not the other way around as we’ve been taught.
    That is so powerfull when you think about it, how can there be a past if the present is not determined.

    You're applying something that works on a micro level (wave functions and quantum probability) to something that works on a macro level (life) and coming up with something that's not really what was intended by the statement you're quoting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    'QUANTUM PHYSICS PROVES THE AFTERLIFE AND RAISES HOUSE PRICES BY 25%!!'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    If I'm interpreting what he says correctly, the guy believes that reality is subjective and that human beliefs shape/alter reality - that is a very special kind of stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    So, now the only thing that is certain is f`cken taxes.

    Yeah, but remember, you can only know the location of the tax or its velocity, not both


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    COYVB wrote: »
    Using that logic, explain why brain damage is a thing...

    Hey, I never said there was "logic" in what I was saying!

    Brain damage is a thing because when your brain gets cold, it instinctively tries to get you to stick your head into fires and other excessively warm things.

    This results in damage. To the brain. Brain damage if you will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    If I'm interpreting what he says correctly, the guy believes that reality is subjective and that human beliefs shape/alter reality - that is a very special kind of stupid.

    subjectively speaking....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Quantam Leap was a great show.

    It still is, thus proving there is an afterlife.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    COYVB wrote: »
    You're applying something that works on a micro level (wave functions and quantum probability) to something that works on a macro level (life) and coming up with something that's not really what was intended by the statement you're quoting

    From my understanding there are many outcomes to everything we do and say and these outcomes spin off into another parallel dimension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    COYVB wrote: »
    Yeah, but remember, you can only know the location of the tax or its velocity, not both

    I think the location can always be inferred (somewhat mysteriously) from 'other data', see here, as to the velocity, there is evidence to suggest that this is approaching a rate where it arrives by 'the end of the year prior to that during which the tax actually falls due'. This is, of course, something similar to the idea of a positron being the equivalent of an electron that is travelling backwards through time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    He's a doctor of medicine, not a physicist, and by the looks of things, a clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    I am always fascinated by this stuff, problem is I don't understand much of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    From my understanding there are many outcomes to everything we do and say and these outcomes spin off into another parallel dimension.

    That's one very literal way of taking it. But take Schrodinger's cat for example... it's not ACTUALLY alive and dead at the same time - it can only be one, despite the suggestion otherwise


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    I am always fascinated by this stuff, problem is I don't understand much of it.

    Well, if you thought you did understand it, then it has been said that you wouldn't have understood it at all... so you are actually somewhere like you'd be if you'd done a PhD on the topic.

    \0/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    keith16 wrote: »
    Hey, I never said there was "logic" in what I was saying!

    Brain damage is a thing because when your brain gets cold, it instinctively tries to get you to stick your head into fires and other excessively warm things.

    This results in damage. To the brain. Brain damage if you will.

    Riiiiight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Good creatures, do you love your lives
    And have you ears for sense?
    Here is a knife like other knives,
    That cost me eighteen pence.

    I need but stick it in my heart
    And down will come the sky,
    And earth's foundations will depart
    And all you folk will die.

    - A.E. Housman




    On a lighter note: does anyone know the video of Deepak Chopra being owned by the guy who co-wrote the book with Stephen Hawking? Can you link it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Well, if you thought you did understand it, then it has been said that you wouldn't have understood it at all... so you are actually somewhere like you'd be if you'd done a PhD on the topic.

    \0/

    I feel superior now. No doubt someone will come along and take it away soon. Bastards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭The Gnome


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    In before someone mentions Deepak Chopra and his Quantum...................something.

    I think I might turn this into my new chat-up line...

    'How's about I put my quantum something deepak in your chopra, baby?'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    Bro, I'm Billy Mitchel not focking Sheldon Cooper!

    Whaa ye on about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Deepak Chopra and his love of pseudoscience


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    If any of you guys are interested in Parallel Universes google The Man from Taured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,107 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    The sidebar links on the Daily mail are way more interesting:
    Humans do NOT come from Earth – and sunburn, bad backs and pain during labour prove it, expert claims
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    In a new book, Dr Ellis Silver says aliens put humans our planet as recently as tens of thousands of years ago
    He suggests the Earth might be a prison planet, since humans seem to be a naturally violent species and are here until we learn to behave ourselves


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2507377/Humans-NOT-come-Earth--sunburn-bad-backs-pain-labour-prove-expert-claims.html#ixzz2kfigVm4I
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭thecatspjs


    So ... are we all going to heaven? Lads?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    >.<

    O.O

    >.<

    O.O

    >.<

    O.O

    >.<


    Ah f*ck it, ye're still here :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,428 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I thought scientists dont understand quantum physics yet
    Biologists and chemists don't. Physicists do.
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    There might be some bit of proof here...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,428 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    zenno wrote: »
    There might be some bit of proof here...

    There's suggestion of something, but proof of nothing. An EEG measures and records electrical activity, not consciousness. That clip showed a spike in electrical activity on the cusp of death (we presume - it was suggested, not stated), nothing more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Interesting though.


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