Mature Student Midwifery Nursing Psychometric Test 2014 HELP

User1982

Hi All, I have applied through CAO for a place as a mature student in Midwifery. I sat the psychometric test in 2010 and only got mid marks which didn't secure me a place in college. I am trying again this year and believe the test will be in Feb some time. I want to practise now so that I can do the very best I can and achieve high results this time.

Can anyone offer advice? Maybe have copies of the past papers I can read over?

And also, what are they looking for in the personality and job simulation tests? I know these can be manipulated a little

paperclip2

Some of the Nursing applicants in 2013 found this website useful for the numerical and verbal psychometric parts of the test: http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm

I've attached a brief descriptor on the aptitude tests also.

You might also find some info on this thread: http://http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76682321

User1982

thanks paperclip. I looked at the tests on the Kent website and its made me aware that I need to start reading a dictionary! Synonyms and Antonyms are not easy when you get to 'big' words that I have never even used in my writing or conversational English! Has anyone any idea where I might get a list of common Synonyms and Antonyms that are used in psychometric testing? Im also going to go back over my times tables!!

paperclip2

You might find some info online but a good psychometric test preparation book is ‘The Ultimate Psychometric Test Book’ by Mike Byron.

Mamaof1

Hi I'm new and I'm not really sure if I should be posting here or a different thread so bare with me
I completed my pre-nursing FETAC course in May with very good exam results and I also sat the Aptitude exam in April for mature students. I received a 516 score but still didn't get an offer can any please tell me what books papers quizzes etc I could buy to revise for this years exam as It's obvious I need to get higher than 516 ( I thought this was a high mark) I'm determined not to give up trying.
Any information would be really appreciated

WildRosie

I sat the test this year and got 622 and am now doing children's and general nursing in UCD (and LOVING it!). The test changed this year. The maths and verbal are now different, the verbal now involves reading a passage and answering a series of true/false/cannot say questions. The maths is no longer sequencing, but much more practical arithmetic.

I would highly recommend doing career service's prep day. This was my second year doing the test and found the prep day immensely helpful. Practice your mental arithmetic, percentages, adding, subtracting, division etc. You can bring a calculator with you into the exam now. I didn't have major difficulties with the maths as I would be quite strong here, but I know others did and it would seem that time management is key, i.e. If you are struggling with a question, move on.

I suppose, the best advice I can give, is to do the prep day. I felt much more confident this year after doing it and their additional preparation material is excellent. It's expensive, €150 I think, but if you really want nursing/midwifery it's a small price to pay in my view.

Mamaof1

Thank you so much for replying. I've heard about that prep day and was highly recommended so ill def enrol for that. Wow 622 go you! I got 516 excelled in all areas but lost marks on the last section job stimulation I think it was called? Congrats on your place in UCD it must be an amazing feeling!!

Healy Boy

Hi

I will also be doing the test this year, for applying on publicjobs am i correct saying it will be in febuary to apply for the written test?. At the same time i will be applying to colleges in the UK if any one knows any information on this it would be great. Also would any one know what a level 2 maths and english is in the Irish education system because i e-mailed a few Uk colleges and they have said this???

Thanks

WildRosie

After the CAO closing date, you'll get an email inviting you to apply on publicjobs.ie for the test. I got mine on 7 February and registration closed on 5 March.

Don't have any info on applying to colleges in the UK, but I think Level 2 is equivalent to GCSE at A-C grades and Junior Cert is equilvalent to GCSE. See Qualifax.

I've heard that if you go to study nursing/midwifery in NI you may be entitled to some sort of NHS bursary (for ROI students it only applies to NI), but I don't know the details.

Healy Boy

thanks,

must look into it more, i suppose you would not know level 2 for LCA mathamatics?

WildRosie

I don't know anything about the Leaving Cert Applied but a quick google gave me this It's from a college in NI and I don't know if it applies elsewhere but have a read of page 6. It says:

Students who successfully complete the program are awarded a Leaving Certificate.
The certificate is awarded at three levels:
• Pass 60 – 69% Merit 70 - 84% Distinction 85 – 100%
• A Pass in the Leaving Certificate Applied is the equivalent of 6 Grade Ds ( level unspecified) at Ordinary Level Leaving Certificate
• A Merit or Distinction grade pass is accepted for progression to L3 study programmes.
• The ILCA is not perceived as an entry qualification to HE study programmes

I don't know if the bold part applies everywhere or if it will effect you. Do you have English and Maths in your Junior Cert?

Healy Boy

Ya i do do they accept junior cert also?

WildRosie

Healy Boy wrote: »

Ya i do do they accept junior cert also?

Check the qualifax link in my first post. But as I said you'll need to confirm that level 2 is GCSE, but I'm fairly certain it is.

Healy Boy

http://hiberniacollege.com/application-docs/gcse_equivalents.pdf

WildRosie

And this and Qualifax say differently. The only categorical answer you'll get is from the institution(s) you're applying to, and their's is the only one that counts

If you don't meet the educational requirements, you could look into completing a pre-nursing course. I understand that it's quite popular with the UK universities. I don't know if you would still have to satisfy the English and Maths requirements though. If you do, you may need to look at repeating English and Maths in the Leaving Cert Established, or investigating if there is a FETAC equivalency that would be acceptable. Having said all that, it may just be easier to stay in the Irish system where there are no minimum education standards at all.

User1982

Wow that's interesting to know that they don't do the sequences anymore! What about word relationships in the verbal? Are they any diagrams in the maths? I'm going to enroll for the prep day.... I NEED a place for 2014! I will be 32 then and really don't want to be starting any older.... Any one have a copy of the 2013 exam paper to review?

Greenmachine

Some Interesting links

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Hi

I will also be doing the test this year, for applying on publicjobs am i correct saying it will be in febuary to apply for the written test?. At the same time i will be applying to colleges in the UK if any one knows any information on this it would be great. Also would any one know what a level 2 maths and english is in the Irish education system because i e-mailed a few Uk colleges and they have said this???

Thanks

Hello! I can help because I'm going through this process currently also. I'm hoping to do Adult Nursing in the UK.

The most similar thing that we have to Level 2 Maths and English in the Ireland is probably taking Maths and English modules through FETAC. They're designed for people who didn't pass their GCSE Maths and English to get an equivalent qualification.

If you have above a C in your Irish Leaving Cert Pass Maths and English or a D in Honors Maths and English then you don't need the Level 2. Personally, I got a D in Pass Maths in my Leaving Cert so I went over to London a few weeks ago to sit the Level 2 Maths exam there, some centres will let you just sit the exam without having to do the course and its very straight forward, much easier than the Leaving Cert, I think it was 60 pounds to sit the test. There's a sample test here - http://media.cityandguilds.com/gola/num-l2/ .

Just be aware that if you do go this route that not all universities will accept the level 2 maths in lieu of leaving certificate or gcse maths but plenty do. I phoned around 20 universities to inquire before I submitted my application so I can give you a list of the ones that do and don't if you need it.

Good luck!

Healy Boy

thanks Kerry25x

ya can you please give me that list , and how to go about going for the test in maths and english. Do you know anything about they accepting LCA results into colleges, i contacted a few but they never heard of it so , that is doutfull, how are you doing filling out the UCAS application. any other info would be great.

Thanks

Kerry25x

I sent off my UCAS application just over 2 weeks ago now and I've been invited to interview by 2 of my choices and I'm waiting to hear back from the other 3 so it's going good. I'm beginning to feel cautiously hopeful! I'm applying with my FETAC Pre-Nursing course. I'll be applying in Ireland through the CAO too but somewhere in England would be my first choice, I much prefer the look of the course over there!

I'm sorry I don't know anything about LCA. What's your academic situation? Did you do your leaving cert? If you don't have the leaving cert results needed to get in then the best advice I can give you is to consider doing a Pre-Nursing course for a year first and use those results to get you in, I'm really enjoying my course and it really prepares you for university. Its a shame they don't seem to make any major allowances for mature students in England.

As for the Level 2 Maths and English, you can find the list of centres at this link: http://www.learndirect.com/centresearch/centre/search/ just make sure you tick the box marked 'Testing Centre' before you search and then just phone around until you find some place that will let you skip the course and just sit the test. I did mine at the one in Islington. It takes a couple weeks to get the results back so its best to do it as soon as possible. Its a bit annoying that they won't send you out your certificate after you pass though - you have to go back over to the UK and pick it up in person. My first interview is in London so I'm just flying over a day early so I can call in for it then but its still hassle!

Colleges I contacted that accept level 2 maths:
London South Bank, Bucks University, Liverpool John Moore, University of West London, Kings College London, Anglia Ruskin University, Bradford University, Kingston , University of Bedfordshire.

Colleges that don't accept it: Brighton, City University London, Canterbury Christchurch, Salford University, Edge Hill University

And I got maybes from: Sheffield, Greenwich, Robert Gordon University

There's loads more universities in the UK, these are just the ones that I've emailed.

Let me know if you have any more questions! I know its so overwhelming when you first start trying to figure everything out and the UCAS system is so different to the CAO but I think it's much better and fairer once you get used to it!

Healy Boy

Thanks alot, very helpfull, I'll leave you know how it is going. Are you already in a FETAC course, do you know if you can get back to school alowance while doing a PLC course in the nursing studies?

They also a course in FAS Help Care Studies i think its called, these are just in case nothing goes my way because you have more of a chance of acceptance with experiance that iv been looking up.

Thanks again

Kerry25x

Yep I'm in a FETAC Pre-Nursing course at the moment, you can get Back to Education Allowance if you've been on social welfare for 3 months before you start the course and I'm fairly certain that you can carry that over to the UK with you the following year if you were to go to university over there - I'm not 100% on that though.

I'm not sure about any links between UK colleges and FAS Help Care Studies, I know that as far as FETAC goes it has to be the Pre-Nursing course, they won't accept the FETAC Health Care one.

Healy Boy

Thnaks again, and best of luck with the interviews, can you let me know what kind of questions etc , they will be asking.

MyNameIsMethos

Hey guys, was poring over the stats for minimum points acceptance for mature student entries to nursing for last year or the year before. I was wondering, could anyone tell me what score is the test actually marked out of? I haven't been able to track that down.

Kerry25x

MyNameIsMethos wrote: »

Hey guys, was poring over the stats for minimum points acceptance for mature student entries to nursing for last year or the year before. I was wondering, could anyone tell me what score is the test actually marked out of? I haven't been able to track that down.

I believe that it is marked out of 650.

MyNameIsMethos

Kerry25x wrote: »

I believe that it is marked out of 650.

Much obliged

Daniimoo

Hey Guys, im new to this and will be applying this year for Mature General/midwifery nursing. I was following a thread from last year where i read that min points scored in the assesment where 176 and highest were 258? roughly but im seeing on here people talking about points in the 600's? Is this something else altogether? confused lol

Kerry25x

Daniimoo wrote: »

Hey Guys, im new to this and will be applying this year for Mature General/midwifery nursing. I was following a thread from last year where i read that min points scored in the assesment where 176 and highest were 258? roughly but im seeing on here people talking about points in the 600's? Is this something else altogether? confused lol

Hi Daniimoo, I think you were probably reading a thread from the previous year, they changed the assessment process and marking for the 2013 applicants.

I found reading through the posts from the people who sat the exam this Spring in this thread really helpful - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056963687. Best of luck!

wuben

Hi all has any1 used or heard good reviews about the prep package you can buy from kilroys college? I was thinking of buying it

Healy Boy

Kerry25x

can you give me any tips about the interviews that you did over in the UK? what kind of questions they ask you etc?

How you getting on with it did you get any feedback from the college over there? any acceptance yet?
I got an interview the end of this month. any help and tips will be great.

Thanks.

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Kerry25x

can you give me any tips about the interviews that you did over in the UK? what kind of questions they ask you etc?

How you getting on with it did you get any feedback from the college over there? any acceptance yet?
I got an interview the end of this month. any help and tips will be great.

Thanks.

Hey, I've had three interviews so far, got rejected from one already and I'm waiting nervously to hear back from the other two! I have another interview coming up in a couple weeks and I haven't been offered an interview from my fifth choice so far.

Its hard to know whats going to come up, I'd advise you just to read as widely as you can on nursing issues. Nursingtimes.net has a lot of good articles. Make sure you know some issues affecting the NHS that are currently in the media - The Francis Report is the big news story at the moment, definitely read up on this. Know your 6 C's (Care, Compassion, Competence, Courage, Communication and Commitment) and be able to talk about why each of them are important qualities in nurses. Other than that I'd say have an answer prepared for the question why you want to be a nurse, research the college that you're going to and brush up on your maths.

Where is your interview? Do you know what format the interview is in? Individual interview or group interview or both? Best of luck, I hope it goes well for you!!

Healy Boy

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s hard to know whats going to come up, I'd advise you just to read as widely as you can on nursing issues. Nursingtimes.net has a lot of good articles. Make sure you know some issues affecting the NHS that are currently in the media - The Francis Report is the big news story at the moment, definitely read up on this. Know your 6 C's (Care, Compassion, Competence, Courage, Communication and Commitment) and be able to talk about why each of them are important qualities in nurses. Other than that I'd say have an answer prepared for the question why you want to be a nurse, research the college that you're going to and brush up on your maths.

Where is your interview? Do you know what format the interview is in? Individual interview or group interview or both? Best of luck, I hope it goes well for you!!

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Hey man, ya got one the 29th of jan and 10th feb one in bucks and another in scotland, group and 1 on 1 interview they are and a text in math and english, are the tests hard, be more worried about the math, for the individual interview are you interviewed by a panel??? what are the group interviews about??

also can you bring a calculater in for the test?

Thanks,
best of luck with you too.

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Hey man, ya got one the 29th of jan and 10th feb one in bucks and another in scotland, group and 1 on 1 interview they are and a text in math and english, are the tests hard, be more worried about the math, for the individual interview are you interviewed by a panel??? what are the group interviews about??

also can you bring a calculater in for the test?

Thanks,
best of luck with you too.

Group interviews are great, I find them much easier than the individual because there's less pressure on you to always come up with the right answer every time. Just make sure that you speak up a bit and try to get a couple good points in but don't try to dominate the conversation either. There's a lot of focus on how you communicate within a group and that you give the quieter people a chance a speak.

In all my individual interviews so far I've had two people interviewing me. Usually you're not allowed a calculator but they should state this in the information that they sent you about the interview. If you're unsure its always a good idea to give them a quick call just to clarify!

Any other questions, feel free!

Healy Boy

Thanks alot

So the group interviews are just talking about whats happening within nursing NHS? any good topic to bring up in the group interviews??

Would you say the individual interviews be like a normal interview as such, "why you want this career", "why you choose this college" ect etc?

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Thanks alot

So the group interviews are just talking about whats happening within nursing NHS? any good topic to bring up in the group interviews??

Would you say the individual interviews be like a normal interview as such, "why you want this career", "why you choose this college" ect etc?

In a group interview you usually have two interviewers in the room who are evaluating you during the interview. They will ask questions of everyone as a group or they might just give you a statement to discuss amongst yourselves. Sometimes they might give you a case study or you'll watch a short video and then you'll discuss that amongst yourselves. Sorry I didn't apply to Bucks or anywhere in Scotland so I'm not sure what form your group interviews might take!

I find that usually if you have a group interview first then the individual interview is a bit more personal, they might ask you questions specific to you (such as why do you want to study in the UK instead of Ireland?) whereas if its just an individual interview there's more typical interview questions (such as give an example of a time when you showed compassion?). But then this isn't always the case either. You can try some UK student forums to see what came up in other peoples interviews but don't rely on your interview being the same as theirs, universities change things all the time to keep it fair for everyone. All I can say is try to be prepared for anything!

For the maths, there's some good websites you use to practice, http://www.move-on.org.uk/practicetestsResults.asp (look for the Level 2 numeracy tests on this page), http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks3/. Again the maths tests vary so much from university to university! Usually they'll send you out a sample test with your interview info and the test on the day will be really similar to that. Did you do the Level 2 maths test in the end by the way?

Where else have you applied? Its such a nerve racking process isn't it? The really hard part comes after your interview when you're waiting anxiously for the verdict!

Kerry25x

Oh, if it turns out that you are allowed to use a calculator in your maths test then this usually means that the questions are a bit harder and this would be a better website to practice on - http://www.snap.nhs.uk/details.aspx (just go into the 'have a go' section).

Healy Boy

Kerry25x wrote: »

In a group interview you usually have two interviewers in the room who are evaluating you during the interview. They will ask questions of everyone as a group or they might just give you a statement to discuss amongst yourselves. Sometimes they might give you a case study or you'll watch a short video and then you'll discuss that amongst yourselves. Sorry I didn't apply to Bucks or anywhere in Scotland so I'm sure sure what form your group interviews might take!

I find that usually if you have a group interview first then the individual interview is a bit more personal, they might ask you questions specific to you (such as why do you want to study in the UK instead of Ireland?) whereas if its just an individual interview there's more typical interview questions (such as give an example of a time when you showed compassion?). But then this isn't always the case either. You can try some UK student forums to see what came up in other peoples interviews but don't rely on your interview being the same as theirs, universities change things all the time to keep it fair for everyone. All I can say is try to be prepared for anything!

For the maths, there's some good websites you use to practice, http://www.move-on.org.uk/practicetestsResults.asp (look for the Level 2 numeracy tests on this page), http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/ks3/. Again the maths tests vary so much from university to university! Usually they'll send you out a sample test with your interview info and the test on the day will be really similar to that. Did you do the Level 2 maths test in the end by the way?

Where else have you applied? Its such a nerve racking process isn't it? The really hard part comes after your interview when you're waiting anxiously for the verdict!

Its leading up to alright, Im be more delighted for aceptance in the UK than Ireland. I must do alot of research so within the next couple of weeks for it, do you have to ask any question at the end of the interview, How long do they give you for an answer about being declined or accepted is this by e-mail or through UCAS?

Hopefully it goes well anyway!!
I applied for 2 in scotland and the rest around the london area, buck, bedforshire, west london. Finger crossed.

I didnt end up doing the level 2 maths test, I just send off what i have, no complaints yet? we see on the day though, what the english tests like, Im guessing they be quite similar to the Irish Assement that has to be done.

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Its leading up to alright, Im be more delighted for aceptance in the UK than Ireland. I must do alot of research so within the next couple of weeks for it, do you have to ask any question at the end of the interview, How long do they give you for an answer about being declined or accepted is this by e-mail or through UCAS?

Hopefully it goes well anyway!!
I applied for 2 in scotland and the rest around the london area, buck, bedforshire, west london. Finger crossed.

I didnt end up doing the level 2 maths test, I just send off what i have, no complaints yet? we see on the day though, what the english tests like, Im guessing they be quite similar to the Irish Assement that has to be done.

Cool, I've had an interview for Bedfordshire at the beginning of December but they said they won't let us know until April if we were successful or not. West London is where I'm off to next week so fingers crossed for that!

I think the English test is an essay in most places but in Befordshire we had to correct spelling mistakes in a paragraph and answer questions on a paragraph as well as write an essay. For West London, they emailed me out two newpaper articles and I have to choose one to summerise off by heart on the day.

Different colleges give different lenghts of time to hear back, Bedfordshire said that it'll be April because they interview everyone before they start giving out offers but other places will get back to you very fast. It could be through Track or by email. When I got my rejection it just showed up in Track, no email.

Who knows, we could be classmates in Bedfordshire or West London in September!

Healy Boy

Ya hopefully, either way once we get a position somewhere be good, best of luck anyway, if i have any other questions ill get back to you, some grea tips , thanks mans, ill keep you updated anyway

Kerry25x

Healy Boy wrote: »

Ya hopefully, either way once we get a position somewhere be good, best of luck anyway, if i have any other questions ill get back to you, some grea tips , thanks mans, ill keep you updated anyway

No bothers, I just got offered my first college place from Anglia Ruskin University, so freaking happy! Best of luck with the interview process, once you do your research you'll get through them just fine!!

another question

Anybody going for UCD Midwifery this year?

Also is this the main thread for Mature Nursing applicants this year - anyone know any groups on Facebook that I could join. Did a quick search but none in Ireland came up.

WildRosie

another question wrote: »

Also is this the main thread for Mature Nursing applicants this year - anyone know any groups on Facebook that I could join. Did a quick search but none in Ireland came up.

Rollercoaster Nursing/Midwives. Everything you need to know is right there.

another question

WildRosie wrote: »

Rollercoaster Nursing/Midwives. Everything you need to know is right there.

Send a request to join the group a week ago and not accepted yet, is that normal?

WildRosie

Mmm, not really. Did you check your 'others' inbox? Sometimes the admins sends a message before they add you because there was a lot of problems with trolls. If you go to the group, can you see who the admins are? If you can, send them a message. If you can't, let me know and I can message them.

jeranelly

Hello guys, just wondering how did everyone got on with today's mature nursing/midwifery assessment test (Apil 26, CORK)? I was not able to finished the Verbal test, maybe 8 blanks. Done well in Math, and no clue about the Job Simulation, unfinished too about 4 blanks..I'm gutted about having no warning! I'll be anxious now about the result...

Caffrey82

I sat the test in Dublin today... Missed last 3 verbal and guessed 5-6 maths! Can't say how I did in Job Sim....

Caffrey82

Anyone know the maim thread for this years applicants?

jeranelly

Caffrey82 wrote: »

I sat the test in Dublin today... Missed last 3 verbal and guessed 5-6 maths! Can't say how I did in Job Sim....

At least you've just missed 3 on verbal. Verbal test was much more complicated and longer passages than I expected. I felt shooked everytime the facilatitor says, "time's up...pencil on the desk". I found the numerical test easy enough. And can't tell about job sim until results are out. Hopeful!

Caffrey82

So annoyed about maths, I was so prepared for it! I just lost track of time! What you apply for and where?

Elliekins

I also did it in Dublin today. I thought the maths was fairly difficult to be honest. I guessed a good few at the end too. It's going to be a long month.

jeranelly

Caffrey82 wrote: »

So annoyed about maths, I was so prepared for it! I just lost track of time! What you apply for and where?

Applying for General Nursing to go to University College Cork (UCC). I had a digital watch taped on the desk in front of me and that was useless because I learned I would not have any spare seconds to even glance at how much possible minutes to seconds we have left...I prepared the numerical well in advanced as I thought my brain never heard of numbers for years and it was worth it. I borrowed books at the library with author Mike Byron etc., that came handy, similar to the familiarisation given to us. Touch wood, but if it won't happen this time, I'll try again for next year. ^_^