UFC 167 ST PIERRE VS HENDRICKS **SPOILERS**

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MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)

• Georges St-Pierre vs. Johny Hendricks - for welterweight title
• Rashad Evans vs. Chael Sonnen
• Robbie Lawler vs. Rory MacDonald
• Josh Koscheck vs. Tyron Woodley
• Ali Bagautinov vs. Timothy Elliott

PRELIMINARY CARD (FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET)

• Donald Cerrone vs. Evan Dunham
• Ed Herman vs. Thales Leites
• Brian Ebersole vs. Rick Story
• Edwin Figueroa vs. Erik Perez

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6:45 p.m. ET)

• Jason High vs. Anthony Lapsley
• Will Campuzano vs. Sergio Pettis
• Cody Donovan vs. Gian Villante

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As excited for this as much as Cain JDS 3 !

I know Big Rig can do it, but I don't think he will on the night, GSP will show once again who's the Master of MMA !

I hope so much that Robbie Lawlor flattens Rory McDonald. I'll actually do a dance.

Don't care about any other fight on this card tbh but so what it's GSP V Hendricks ya don't need anything else !

Evans v Sonnen is a good scrap hard to call. Fight doesn't matter much but it could be a war if Suga brings his balls with him.

riffmongous

That is a nice looking card

scudzilla

Georgie by decision, A boring one at that.

Sonnen also, by decision, i don't think Rashad has the KO power anymore, Sonnen will get through the first round onslaught then throw him round for the remaining 2.

Can see Macdonald winning by a decision too, albeit a close one

Dunno if this is an upset but i think Woodley will KO koscheck early on

darced

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The Pheasant2

Great looking card. for the sake of a bet I need GSP and MacDonald winning!

Mr. Manager

How the hell did Cerrone get relegated to the prelims in place of Ali Bagautinov vs. Timothy Elliott??

Hope Cerrone wins. Would love to see him make a good run for the belt.

Easy Rod

I Love PPPP Longtime wrote: »

How the hell did Cerrone get relegated to the prelims in place of Ali Bagautinov vs. Timothy Elliott??

Hope Cerrone wins. Would love to see him make a good run for the belt.

I presume it's to ensure the prelims end with a barn-burner and perhaps encourage people to buy the ppv.

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yeah and It'll motivate The Cowboy to knock the sh1t out of Dunham

both their stocks have fallen recently should be a good scrap

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I wonder how careful GSP is gona be.

Will GSP just circle, leg kick and jab the sh1t out of Johnny to avoid getting touched by that ridiculous left and then plant him on his back every time Johnny lunges in with punches?

If he does I wouldn't call that boring or chicken. Nobody can get hit by Johnny and stay upright and if anyone can neutralize that danger with a successful double leg it's gotta be GSP !

It's all about whether GSP can really hurt him once he's got him down and is working from top in half guard which he invariably gets to.

Johnny's only a mid level BJJ guy isn't he? He's not even brown belt is he? Can't see how he sweeps GSP who brings flawless powerful top control and Black Belt BJJ to the table. I can see GSP getting to side mount and dropping cutting elbows IF he brings Johnny down.

And therein lies the issue: Is it more likely GSP takes Johnny down THAN Johnny lunging in and catching GSP with that left? I'd say the odds are in GSP's favor and Greg Jackson would have told him that in no uncertain terms in their strategy sessions. It's all about using the tools you have to your greatest advantage and if that means taking Johnny down and trying to hurt him on the ground to avoid getting knocked out by the most vicious punch in welterweight history then are we really going to call GSP boring and chicken if he wins this way?

Big Rigs punch is a show stopper - strategy has to be much different against him than against anyone else, you can't afford to get hit once with that left !

900+ on the ould punchometer without much of a step, the man could knock out a Hippo !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvHg-Eox3iU

I'm a massive GSP fan so I personally hope he pulls off some perfect technique on the feet and catches Johnny and finishes him, which is possible given his all round ability but that's probably very wishful thinking so I'll be rooting for Georges to take him down at will and do his best to finish him on the ground with punches and elbows... or a sub.

Chewabacca

I'd like to see Rashad make a run for the 185 title. The guy mixes up his strikes and takedowns well and has really solid TDD. If Phil Davis can't get him down it's not unlikely that he'll be able to stuff Chael's td's. If he can I see him easily out striking Chael. Chael always proves me wrong though.

Woodley vs Kos will be a great fight I reckon. Both guys are happy to trade and everyone forgets that many people thought Kos got the better of Hendricks in the striking department.

Herman vs. Leites will be one to watch, could be a great fight standing and on the ground.

riffmongous

I'd expect Rashad to beat Chael if you match up their skills, they are close but I would guess Rashad is a batter boxer and wrestler. However I think Chael's in your face attitude and intensity will help him overwhelm Rashad as long as he doesn't get knocked out by a counter punch.

mailburner

I think rashad is the better fighter but I think its possible
chael might take this just for being the more agressive fighter
I hope so anyway

rory mac pts I'd say
I see the same type of fight as rory v jake here
Could see lawlor trying to take the head off mac in
the third after losing the first two

kos woodley could be a good one if it stays standing
think kos will take him down myself or get ko'd if he
stands with wood

suppose gsp pts again
always has a masterplan so I'm thinking he probably
wont get caught

pauldoo

Best part of this fightcard;

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/11/12/ufc-167-weigh-ins-set-for-friday-in-las-vegas-gracie-coleman-severn-jimmerson-host-qa/

Might get to end of why jimmerson wore that one boxing glove

RainMaker

pauldoo wrote: »

Might get to end of why jimmerson wore that one boxing glove

Funny, but I was just reading why!

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videointerview/Gerard-Gordeau-Stories-from-UFC-1-5307

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ha awww
makin me wana download and watch the entire first UFC.... ha with that black Jung Fu guy Black Dragon whatshisname and little Keith Hackney doin Karate chops on a 600 lb Hawaiian Sumo dude...ya couldn't make it up it was actually real life 'Bloodsport'.
anyone else here rent them from LASER on Georges St when it first opened?

I was doin TKD round the corner at the time and I went into kill some time at the bus stop and downstairs was a feckin sexy shelf full of UFC and KOTC stuff! My jaw just dropped lookin at the covers.. I said I gotta get me some of this sh1t right here... spent the next months gettin them to order more of them in.

Thank you LASER video shop!

If there's people here who genuinely haven't watched any of the first UFCs you really should give it a glance.. it's probably on youtube anyway. Royce Gracie 175 lbs in his BJJ Gi conga trainin-ing his way to the octagon with half his family hangin off him goin up against lads like Severn 250 lb and makin a mockery out of them. Every bit of untested traditional martial arts bullsh1t I had been through since I was 11 was suddenly set on fire, thrown into a skip and p1ssed upon !

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Entire

UFC 1: The Beginning

http://vimeo.com/45287348

My Fav quote from one of the three commentators at 42:20

"They're eh just goin over the rules now...which eh there aren't any of "

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UFC 167 Primetime: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks Part 3

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/11/12/full-episode-ufc-167-primetime-st-pierre-vs-hendricks-part-3-video/

IKnowNowt

Guys, pretty sure I know the answer to this already, but is there anywhere in Dublin that shows UFC events (or at least this event)? Cheers.

Xlami

Just a quick question. Does anyone know how Irish Cody Donavon is?

Also looking forward to Couture, Tito and Shamrock brothers having a DX style invasion at this

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great insight into a technique GSP uses a lot in his last 10 fights by Johnny

He says GSP uses his very extended jab in a way which specifically baits people to come back at him with an over-commited strike which leaves them open to a duck and double leg... and it's so true... Johnny explains that GSP leans 3 or 4 inches more than everyone else when he jumps forward with his jab but he doesn't follow up with a power right which makes his opponents instantly respond by coming back at him with their own lunging strike - then GSP just completely recoils his extra long jab right back to his base... meanwhile you're left in no mans land...so he just ducks under your strike and hits you with an explosive double... it's actually genius. I love how Johnny (or his team) has busted GSP on it! I haven't heard another fighter spot that tactic and break it down so perfectly before.

3:55 int this vid

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videointerview/Johny-Hendricks-GSP-Does-Not-Want-to-Stand-with-Me-5303

If I were Johnny I'd have kept that to myself and faked the straight left after one of GSP's jabs and driven a low knee into him as he shot in with a double...boom... 'and the NEW U F C Welterweight.....'

also talks about pretty much accepting that he will be taken down at some point, I like that too, he's not naiive or unrealistic (like Kos who was sure GSP couldn't)

Johnny knows exactly what he's dealing with. He just needs to drop that left hammer and he's champ ! He''s the best challenge to the crown that I've seen definitely. Condit was superb but Johnny is just far more dangerous.

califano

Everyone seems to think Hendricks has to land that power left. I think hes a rubber ball and will deal with GSP's takedown game and get out of it. GSP is a legend but i think Hendricks can beat him at his own game. Hes a massive gamer and im sure he will win. As sure as you can be when your talking about beating GSP!.

El Guapo!

I'm a GSP fan but I can see an upset here. For some reason I'm always a bit nervous when GSP fights. Kinda the same feeling I get when Frankie Edgar fights.---I'm a fan of theirs, and they *should* win, but there's always something there that makes me doubt the outcome.
I can see Hendricks getting the KO here if I'm honest. I don't think GSP has taken a monster bomb to the chin in a long while and Hendricks might be the one to ring his bell in this fight.

JacksonHeightsOwn

I've just watched the weigh ins and I'm now confident George will dismantle Hendricks.

Hendricks looked pale and skinny, his weight cut was not kind to him. Unless he knocks George out in the first 2 rounds then he won't win.

George by 4th round tko for me

#fingerscrossed

The Big Smoke

GSP by 5 round boring as hell grindfest decision.

MrStuffins

Just saw that Anthony Lapsley is on this card.

Let's hope his fight with Jason High is as exciting as his fight against Aaron Wetherspoon

Mellor

Be like Nutella wrote: »

He says GSP uses his very extended jab in a way which specifically baits people to come back at him with an over-commited strike which leaves them open to a duck and double leg... and it's so true... Johnny explains that GSP leans 3 or 4 inches more than everyone else when he jumps forward with his jab but he doesn't follow up with a power right which makes his opponents instantly respond by coming back at him with their own lunging strike - then GSP just completely recoils his extra long jab right back to his base... meanwhile you're left in no mans land...so he just ducks under your strike and hits you with an explosive double... it's actually genius. I love how Johnny (or his team) has busted GSP on it! I haven't heard another fighter spot that tactic and break it down so perfectly before.

If I were Johnny I'd have kept that to myself and faked the straight left after one of GSP's jabs and driven a low knee into him as he shot in with a double...boom... 'and the NEW U F C Welterweight.....'

I drilled that TD in sparring recently. Exactly as described. My coach specifically referred to it as GSP 101. So I don't think that set up was a secret. Hendricks might be the first person to talk about it publicly, but I'd assume that almost every previous opponent was aware of it.

Mellor

George St Pierre is an MMA marvel. He, paradoxically, makes the WW division both my favourite and least favourite division at the same time. My favourite because it's home to George St Pierre, who is in my opinion personifies what it means to be a mixed martial artist. He has mastered all aspects of the fight game, and he uses every skill possible to put on a phenomenal display every time. My least favourite because he is simply too good. He makes very good fighter look like journeymen. The skill gap is massive. Silva never looked unbeatable oisver 5 rounds, proof: Chael Sonnen. Jones doesn't either, case in point, Gustafsson. But I genuinely believe that, over 5 rounds, GSP is unbeatable. I don't believe anybody can dominate in 3 out of 5 round. I'd be surprised if all of his opponents, since he regained the title, had 3 rounds between them.
Of course, that doesn't mean that he will never be beaten. Hughes submitted him, and Sera knocked him out. He is still human. His grappling has improved further still since the loss to Hughes, so I think that, right now, the only way to beat him is a knock out.
For many people, Hendricks represents the only fighter with a chance of beating GSP. St. Pierre's dominance comes from the fact that he forces grappler's to stand and strike, and takes strikers down to the mat at will. Hendricks is a wrestler at heart of it all, however, he biggest offensive weapon of late has been his big overhand left. There's no question that he has the power to knock any welterweight out, GSP included. The only question is will he be able to connect on saturday night. The answer is my opinion is a firm no. Don't get me wrong he has some chance, probably the best chance anyone has ever had. But the odds reflect this, GSP is availible at his highest price in years, 2/5 with most bookies. And in my opinion the inflated worth of Henrdricks has brought value in on GSP.
I expect he'll take Hendricks down when it matters and get the win on the judges' cards.

dave1982

Gsp said it's going to be a great "Don't blink" :eek:

MrStuffins

dave1982 wrote: »

Gsp said it's going to be a great "Don't blink" :eek:

Unless we blink for 25 straight minutes I think we'll be ok

Scar Tissue

MrStuffins wrote: »

Unless we blink for 25 straight minutes I think we'll be ok

I think you call that falling asleep :pac:

Mr. Manager

Scar Tissue wrote: »

I think you call that falling asleep :pac:

Power nap is the preferred term

TheRingslayer

oh can't wait for tonight.

The last great prize fighter.

The last of the mohicans.

The last samurai.

Back in action again. Cannot wait for him to put manners on that disrespectful son of a bitch Hendricks. St Pierre is the Bobby Fischer of MMA. Alongside Anderson and Jones he is the last of the rolling stones, a lasting memory of an era of mma which was stacked with genuine warriors. Now all we see is factory made deaf mutes coming off the production line. A win for St. Pierre is a win for the fans of mma who have since come to the sad realisation that the sport has lost its heart and soul that once made it so beautiful.

#WarPierre

califano

TheRingslayer wrote: »

oh can't wait for tonight.

The last great prize fighter.

The last of the mohicans.

The last samurai.

Back in action again. Cannot wait for him to put manners on that disrespectful son of a bitch Hendricks. St Pierre is the Bobby Fischer of MMA. Alongside Anderson and Jones he is the last of the rolling stones, a lasting memory of an era of mma which was stacked with genuine warriors. Now all we see is factory made deaf mutes coming off the production line. A win for St. Pierre is a win for the fans of mma who have since come to the sad realisation that the sport has lost its heart and soul that once made it so beautiful.

#WarPierre

Fail

Mr. CooL ICE

TheRingslayer wrote: »

oh can't wait for tonight.

The last great prize fighter.

The last of the mohicans.

The last samurai.

Back in action again. Cannot wait for him to put manners on that disrespectful son of a bitch Hendricks. St Pierre is the Bobby Fischer of MMA. Alongside Anderson and Jones he is the last of the rolling stones, a lasting memory of an era of mma which was stacked with genuine warriors. Now all we see is factory made deaf mutes coming off the production line. A win for St. Pierre is a win for the fans of mma who have since come to the sad realisation that the sport has lost its heart and soul that once made it so beautiful.

#WarPierre

wat

Wrongway1985

TheRingslayer wrote: »

oh can't wait for tonight.

The last great prize fighter.

The last of the mohicans.

The last samurai.

Back in action again. Cannot wait for him to put manners on that disrespectful son of a bitch Hendricks. St Pierre is the Bobby Fischer of MMA. Alongside Anderson and Jones he is the last of the rolling stones, a lasting memory of an era of mma which was stacked with genuine warriors. Now all we see is factory made deaf mutes coming off the production line. A win for St. Pierre is a win for the fans of mma who have since come to the sad realisation that the sport has lost its heart and soul that once made it so beautiful.

#WarPierre

Really?? I dont understand this post I'm a fan of mma and disagree GSP hasnt finished anyone since 2008 a lot of people expect at this stage to be watching all 5 rounds when it comes to his fights. How is Hendricks disrespectful? How has it lost its heart and soul??

TheRingslayer

Name me five stars the UFC has built in the past two years who can headline and sell PPVs.

I would suggest not including McGregor or Rousey in your list, they built their own hype.

The current crop of UFC superstars are factory produced. Cain Velasquez is one of the most uninteresting fighters in the history of the sport. Who gives a **** about anyone from 135 down? I'd watch Faber fight but could give a toss about Barao and Cruz, or mickey mouse wearing the belt in the small man's league.

GSP is the last of the old guard. The last remnants of an era when MMA was exciting.

Mr. Manager

TheRingslayer wrote: »

Name me five stars the UFC has built in the past two years who can headline and sell PPVs.

I would suggest not including McGregor or Rousey in your list, they built their own hype.

The current crop of UFC superstars are factory produced. Cain Velasquez is one of the most uninteresting fighters in the history of the sport. Who gives a **** about anyone from 135 down? I'd watch Faber fight but could give a toss about Barao and Cruz, or mickey mouse wearing the belt in the small man's league.

GSP is the last of the old guard. The last remnants of an era when MMA was exciting.

Why couldn't Rousey headline? What's boring about Cain? Your post is ridiculous.

Chael Sonnen could headline so could Aldo, JDS, Belfort, Henderson, Pettis and most fighters in the top 10 of the lightweight div.

TheRingslayer

I Love PPPP Longtime wrote: »

Why couldn't Rousey headline? What's boring about Cain? Your post is ridiculous.

Chael Sonnen could headline so could Aldo, JDS, Belfort, Henderson, Pettis and most fighters in the top 10 of the lightweight div.

don't think you read my post properly bro.

Tubbs4

TheRingslayer wrote: »

Name me five stars the UFC has built in the past two years who can headline and sell PPVs.

I would suggest not including McGregor or Rousey in your list, they built their own hype.

The current crop of UFC superstars are factory produced. Cain Velasquez is one of the most uninteresting fighters in the history of the sport. Who gives a **** about anyone from 135 down? I'd watch Faber fight but could give a toss about Barao and Cruz, or mickey mouse wearing the belt in the small man's league.

GSP is the last of the old guard. The last remnants of an era when MMA was exciting.

Ufc does not build fighters or set up camps to bring Ufc fighters through. They take on fighters that have won and proven themselves in other organisations.
MMA is getting more exciting as usually no one style wins and fighters who can strike are not confused when they hit the mat with a man on top.

The old guard will always go as people die. So noone is going to fight or live forever. GSP is not an exciting fighter to most and Anderson, Vitor among other of the old guard around.
Really unsure if this is a wind up as Jones or Cain fights are more exciting.

Masked Man

Good interview with John Wayne Parr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tNb2SB7JTM

Starting to fall for the don't blink hype

user2011

Wow **** just got serious and fights not even started :pac:

Probably more appropriate thread > http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87537330#post87537330

unknown13

TheRingslayer wrote: »

Name me five stars the UFC has built in the past two years who can headline and sell PPVs.

I would suggest not including McGregor or Rousey in your list, they built their own hype.

The current crop of UFC superstars are factory produced. Cain Velasquez is one of the most uninteresting fighters in the history of the sport. Who gives a **** about anyone from 135 down? I'd watch Faber fight but could give a toss about Barao and Cruz, or mickey mouse wearing the belt in the small man's league.

GSP is the last of the old guard. The last remnants of an era when MMA was exciting.

Yikes, some serious statements there. Rousey destroyed every one in strikeforce. So, she is not hype she is a proven talent.

Cain is not a boring fighter in the slightest. He has the best cardio in the UFC (in my eyes) and is a brilliant fighter.

The smaller weight classes have produced some cracking fights. Loads of people give a shít about them. There always very fast paced fights.

Oh and those five fighters: Sonnen, Barao, Aldo, Pettis and Belfort. Gill Melendez and Gustaffson will soon be on that list.

El Guapo!

Prelims on now HERE

Oregano_State

Volonte for me here.

El Guapo!

Kim Winslow very nervous trying to stop the fight. She looked terrified to step in. I'm still amazed she's allowed into the cage.

Oregano_State

Yeah really noticed that too.

unknown13

El Guapo! wrote: »

Kim Winslow very nervous trying to stop the fight. She looked terrified to step in. I'm still amazed she's allowed into the cage.

She is the worst ref by an absolute mile. She is going to get someone hurt very soon.

MrStuffins

Really interested to see how Pettis gets on here.

Looking at him, he and Anthony might as well be the same person

El Guapo!

unknown13 wrote: »

She is the worst ref by an absolute mile. She is going to get someone hurt very soon.

It's only a matter of time.
She just stood there kind of flapping her arms before stopping it.
I'm not saying it was an overly late stoppage this time but she was too sheepish in calling a halt to the fight.

Oregano_State

MrStuffins wrote: »

Really interested to see how Pettis gets on here.

Looking at him, he and Anthony might as well be the same person

Face-wise yeah. He's a good bit shorter though, 9cm according to wiki.