3.0L V6 TFSI Audi A6 300hp Stronic €750 Tax

Looks like down the line people can still have fun cars and €750 to tax is amazing for a 300 hp automatic petrol.

I wonder what fooling went on to get such low emissions.

68 grand though, be about 10 years before it becomes affordable, still 300 hp V6 Stronic would be really cool.

In 10 years the tax will probably be over the 1500 mark again !

Would you pay 1500 a year motor tax, even today on a 3.0l ? 6K in 4 years is a lot of money ?

I'm sure BMW have lower emissions petrols these days too.

Doesn't seem fair though, I can buy a 10 year old 3.0L and pay 1500 to tax and some rich person can throw down 70K on a car and pay only 750 Euro's.

It's crazy to think that motor tax can be more than the car's worth !

drunkmonkey

I already pay the €1500, I gave up smoking before I got a 3.0L so I'm really up by about €2000 a year even after paying the road tax.
I'm sure loads of the lads here will all have some ingenious methods to justify it like myself

Days 298

How much did said rich person pay in VRT. Nothing stopping the non rich person buying a car with lower tax in 10 years time. It's all choice really.

That said tax is too much but at least it didn't go up this year... that's something.

beauf

Deleted User wrote: »

...Doesn't seem fair though, I can buy a 10 year old 3.0L and pay 1500 to tax and some rich person can throw down 70K on a car and pay only 750 Euro's.

It's crazy to think that motor tax can be more than the car's worth !

Its crazy to fixate on tax only and ignore depreciation, purchase price etc.

Tigger

If the tax is low it will hold its value
Big fast cars are cheap here because of the big tax
It's acually a good thing

Gumbo

Deleted User wrote: »

Would you pay 1500 a year motor tax, even today on a 3.0l ? 6K in 4 years is a lot

Yes, no problem. I do it presently on my 07 car. The way I see it, is that I'd have a 2.0 car all day long, so it's only an extra €15 per week to tax it. My insurance is well under €500 per year so the total costs are not that high relatively speaking.

Leonard Hofstadter

beauf wrote: »

Its crazy to fixate on tax only and ignore depreciation, purchase price etc.

Tell that to your average Irish motorist and let me know how you get on;).

(I agree 100% with you, by the way).

beauf

Tigger wrote: »

If the tax is low it will hold its value
Big fast cars are cheap here because of the big tax
It's acually a good thing

I'd say its the total running costs, which are a lot higher here than say the UK.

Repairs and servicing, tax, insurance, fuel and oil will all be a lot higher than a 1L, super mini.

beauf

captainspeed wrote: »

Tell that to your average Irish motorist and let me know how you get on;).

(I agree 100% with you, by the way).

mentioning car tax here is like coffee..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA

beauf

beauf wrote: »

Its crazy to fixate on tax only and ignore depreciation, purchase price etc.

I'm not ignoring it at all but for someone who can pay out 70K on a new car, depreciation and motor tax must be the least of their worries, so i can't imagine why anyone would buy a diesel for instance.

Fair enough if it's what they really want to drive, I couldn't argue with someone's choice, provided it was for the drive and not fuel and tax savings !

If someone buys a 10 year old 3.0L doesn't mean they are rich at all, it just means they most likely love cars. So it is ridiculous the tax rates as they are now.

Motor tax should go down as the car reaches 10 years old, there is no benefit to the Government having all the big engine petrol cars sitting around with no one driving them and paying no tax on them at all simply because no one wants to buy them.

Scortho

Would I pay the highest tax rate? Yes.
But it would need to have an obnoxiously big engine to justify it. 3.2 isn't big enough in my opinion to justify it.

kceire

kceire wrote: »

Yes, no problem. I do it presently on my 07 car. The way I see it, is that I'd have a 2.0 car all day long, so it's only an extra €15 per week to tax it. My insurance is well under €500 per year so the total costs are not that high relatively speaking.

Yeah never thought of it like that.

And I remember when my insurance was 3,000 Euro's third party ! :eek:

Scortho

Scortho wrote: »

Would I pay the highest tax rate? Yes.
But it would need to have an obnoxiously big engine to justify it. 3.2 isn't big enough in my opinion to justify it.

The difference between the 3.0 and above is only 400 euro's, that is a huge imbalance.

Though I doubt I'd pay 5400 Euro's on a 4.0 over 3 years of ownership + fuel.

Though I thought I'd never drive a 2.0L Petrol CRV either, Though I only throw 20 a week or less in for petrol so it doesn't matter.

And I suppose if you were doing small miles then a 4.0 doesn't matter either, however paying 1800 a year to do tiny mileage is a bit of a mad waste.

At that rate you'd want to be paying per km and not be paying for the car to be sitting in the drive most of the time.

coolisin

But mad lad this has being happening for the last few years, since the co2 system was implemented.
It was sold as a tax on gas guzzlers, but it benefitted people who could afford a new car, anyway.

So if you look at the Lexus hybrids, cheap tax if you shell out the original price of €80000.
But as is always said your spending €80k to save €700 a year!
What about the bmw 640d €115kish but I pay more taxing a 1.4l Mazda.
The bmw 335i or 330i under the newer co2 based tax are a lot cheaper to tax at €700 a year as opposed to the €1500.

Trouble is nobody bought one, everyone went diesel because they can only utter the words baaaaaa!


It's completely unjust.
But then again if I could afford one new I'd buy it but not because the tax is cheap.
Tax is the third or forth question I think about.

beauf

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not ignoring it at all but for someone who can pay out 70K on a new car, depreciation and motor tax must be the least of their worries, so i can't imagine why anyone would buy a diesel for instance.

Fair enough if it's what they really want to drive, I couldn't argue with someone's choice, provided it was for the drive and not fuel and tax savings !

If someone buys a 10 year old 3.0L doesn't mean they are rich at all, it just means they most likely love cars. So it is ridiculous the tax rates as they are now.

Motor tax should go down as the car reaches 10 years old, there is no benefit to the Government having all the big engine petrol cars sitting around with no one driving them and paying no tax on them at all simply because no one wants to buy them.

I think you find wealthy people are usually very aware of how much everything costs, they'd probably haggle over the cost of pint of milk.

The Govt want people to buy new cars as they make more on all the taxes that incurs. They'd prefer you spend the money on a new small car than an old big one. They make more money that. its not just the purchase of it either, you've had to earn than money in the first place, if you spend it on something with high tax, then they are taxing you twice (if not more) at a very high rate.

beauf

While I can understand the attraction of big diesel Audi's. Are there not a lot of more interesting and more fun 10yr old cars you can buy with far lower running costs than a 3L diesel. if you just love the Audi's then fair enough.

mickdw

Cheap tax or not, a 3l turbo petrol engined car is going to depreciate like a stone in this country. That's assuming that anyone actually buys one to start with.
68k now, At 3 years old, it should be very affordable.

MuppetCheck

mickdw wrote: »

Cheap tax or not, a 3l turbo petrol engined car is going to depreciate like a stone in this country. That's assuming that anyone actually buys one to start with.
68k now, At 3 years old, it should be very affordable.

That's the thing. Even if it was in a lower bracket again it will be close on sale proof.

There will be a handful of these at best in this country, and I guarantee those that do arrive will be through the distributor or larger dealers demos.

Casati

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks like down the line people can still have fun cars and €750 to tax is amazing for a 300 hp automatic petrol.

I wonder what fooling went on to get such low emissions.

68 grand though, be about 10 years before it becomes affordable, still 300 hp V6 Stronic would be really cool.

In 10 years the tax will probably be over the 1500 mark again !

Would you pay 1500 a year motor tax, even today on a 3.0l ? 6K in 4 years is a lot of money ?

I'm sure BMW have lower emissions petrols these days too.

Doesn't seem fair though, I can buy a 10 year old 3.0L and pay 1500 to tax and some rich person can throw down 70K on a car and pay only 750 Euro's.

It's crazy to think that motor tax can be more than the car's worth !

Its great to see some efficient big cars - however as most of these cars are bought as company cars you are unlikely to see many until the emissions fall to under 155 g co2 (above this level the BIK goes from 30% to 35% and to 40% above 190 g co2. As such vast majority of A6's on the roads will be the adequate 2.0 TDI with a tiny number of 3.0 TDI's

Cleveland Hot Pocket

kceire wrote: »

Yes, no problem. I do it presently on my 07 car. The way I see it, is that I'd have a 2.0 car all day long, so it's only an extra €15 per week to tax it. My insurance is well under €500 per year so the total costs are not that high relatively speaking.

+1
I pay that 1500 tax on my e60 for the same reason as above (although my insurance is 750 per year on that car)

I'm actually contemplating selling that car and replacing it with a top rate (€1809 p/a) taxed car.

In the general scheme of things when it comes to car ownership, if you can't afford a couple of hundred extra to tax the car, what do you do when something unexpected goes wrong?

mickdw

mickdw wrote: »

Cheap tax or not, a 3l turbo petrol engined car is going to depreciate like a stone in this country. That's assuming that anyone actually buys one to start with.
68k now, At 3 years old, it should be very affordable.

And not only that but the petrol will have half the mileage or less than the diesel , even better !

mickdw

And probably more reliable.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

In the general scheme of things when it comes to car ownership, if you can't afford a couple of hundred extra to tax the car, what do you do when something unexpected goes wrong?

It's not just about affordability, see, most people don't care about the power or the engine as long as it gets them there and it has the right number plate and badge.

They don't care that they got an underpowered engine that, imo (diesel) should only be installed in vans!

And I believe to some rich folk who would spend 50K+ on a car might genuinely feel that spending 1500 + a year on motor tax is a waste.

mickdw

mickdw wrote: »

And probably more reliable.

And no timing belts to replace !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not just about affordability, see, most people don't care about the power or the engine as long as it gets them there and it has the right number plate and badge.

They don't care that they got an underpowered engine that, imo (diesel) should only be installed in vans!

And I believe to some rich folk who would spend 50K+ on a car might genuinely feel that spending 1500 + a year on motor tax is a waste.

What about the multiples of that that they are spending on depreciation?

I might pay high motor tax but I've never lost money (well, never more than 1k) on depreciation.

Swings and roundabouts man, and I would wager that my cars are a lot nicer (and certainly more unique) than a 132 econobox.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

beauf wrote: »

While I can understand the attraction of big diesel Audi's. Are there not a lot of more interesting and more fun 10yr old cars you can buy with far lower running costs than a 3L diesel. if you just love the Audi's then fair enough.

There are of course, but there are other cars with far lower running costs for any even half way "fun" car.

If running costs are the sole criteria, sure we would all join the EV brigade

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

What about the multiples of that that they are spending on depreciation?

I would imaging that someone sees it like this.

You're faced with paying say 400 a year for a 3.0L diesel in motor tax (maybe less) V 1500 for a 3.0L Petrol.

So they are saving 1100 a year and suffering mental depreciation V loosing 1100 a year + mental depreciation.

Don't forget the difference between mpg so they might save 600 a year in fuel also.

Now to the rest of us this may seem crazy that someone paying 50K + on a brand new car would even miss this kind of money but that's the way people think.

It has to be a diesel because in their minds Diesel, automatically means saving money even though by their standards it's small, it's just the thought of saving money that matters.

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Swings and roundabouts man, and I would wager that my cars are a lot nicer (and certainly more unique) than a 132 econobox.

Of course, just like the Volvo S80 2.0 180hp 5 cylinder I picked up for my brother last Sunday, lovely car and a great engine all for 2 K.

Sure it may be 10 years old but no way would I drive a 3 cylinder 60 hp Corsa or the likes for 15 or 16 grand, I couldn't believe it was so rough. just a horrible thing.

Not only that, the comfort in the Volvo and full leather make it look and feel far nicer, not to mention the poke when you put the foot down. And for real economy if he did the miles, he could convert to lpg for 50+ mpg equivalent !

People who go out and buy brand new 1.0L cars need their head examined !

They see it like this " god no, I wouldn't drive a big yoke like that, too expensive to run and tax, god no. I'll go out and spend 15K on a brand new 1.0L and it'l cost me much less to tax and fuel.

But as you say depreciation is something a lot of people don't think of, not to mention the ridiculous interest on finance these days !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

If running costs are the sole criteria, sure we would all join the EV brigade

Yes it doesn't come cheaper than EV, once they become cheap enough and the battery proves to last, then the likes of the Leaf would make a very nice car to drive, if the range suits you that is. 120 miles a day with fast charging, or up to 140 in summer. Or Luas parking or the likes over the day will give you that coverage. Though how much range is left after say 5 years is anyone's guess.

I can't describe the difference between ICE and EV as they are completely different, even though the Leaf has only 110 hp it feels much more powerful, it's limited at the top to 84 mph or something and one of the reasons it doesn't need high hp but the lack of transmission and higher torque and the torque curve I presume is what makes the difference.

The 2013 model though suffered a software limit on the torque band though. So it's not quiet as fast off the line, something like 20 lbs less.

But it's not only that, the instant power delivery is a very good experience.

Supergurrier

B8 S4 lump detuned ?

AFAIK they are supercharged ???

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Deleted User wrote: »

I would imaging that someone sees it like this.

You're faced with paying say 400 a year for a 3.0L diesel in motor tax (maybe less) V 1500 for a 3.0L Petrol.

So they are saving 1100 a year and suffering mental depreciation V loosing 1100 a year + mental depreciation.

Don't forget the difference between mpg so they might save 600 a year in fuel also.

Now to the rest of us this may seem crazy that someone paying 50K + on a brand new car would even miss this kind of money but that's the way people think.

It has to be a diesel because in their minds Diesel, automatically means saving money even though by their standards it's small, it's just the thought of saving money that matters.



Of course, just like the Volvo S80 2.0 180hp 5 cylinder I picked up for my brother last Sunday, lovely car and a great engine all for 2 K.

Sure it may be 10 years old but no way would I drive a 3 cylinder 60 hp Corsa or the likes for 15 or 16 grand, I couldn't believe it was so rough. just a horrible thing.

Not only that, the comfort in the Volvo and full leather make it look and feel far nicer, not to mention the poke when you put the foot down. And for real economy if he did the miles, he could convert to lpg for 50+ mpg equivalent !

People who go out and buy brand new 1.0L cars need their head examined !

They see it like this " god no, I wouldn't drive a big yoke like that, too expensive to run and tax, god no. I'll go out and spend 15K on a brand new 1.0L and it'l cost me much less to tax and fuel.

But as you say depreciation is something a lot of people don't think of, not to mention the ridiculous interest on finance these days !

But not all diesel v petrol is so weighted in a diesel's favor 400/1500.

Aren't a lot of the new bmws for example, in similar bands for petrol and diesel?


And yes people spending that sort of money on small cars are mad. But equally (perhaps even more so) the person who spends near 50k on a new 518d is also mad. For a few k more they would have a much better example of the f10.

For the depreciation on either of those cars + the finance needed (circa 9-11% depending) you could pay the motor tax on a few nice cars for the year

This "I need a diesel" brigade annoys me, since when does johnny down the pub who does 10k miles a year need a diesel?

Scortho

The petrol has gotten to mr hot pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

And yes people spending that sort of money on small cars are mad. But equally (perhaps even more so) the person who spends near 50k on a new 518d is also mad. For a few k more they would have a much better example of the f10.

Yes but the one spending the 15K is probably equal to the person spending 50 K, from a financial point of view ?

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

For the depreciation on either of those cars + the finance needed (circa 9-11% depending) you could pay the motor tax on a few nice cars for the year

But maybe they calculate over 3 years a saving over 600 a year on motor tax so that could towards paying the interest on the Loan ?

But I still wouldn't drive a 1.0L 3 cylinder if it was given to me for free !

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

This "I need a diesel" brigade annoys me, since when does johnny down the pub who does 10k miles a year need a diesel?

Yep, but diesel is so embedded in peoples brains now that it automatically is the first thing people think about.

My mate said he wanted to get a new car because the road tax was getting too high on his 1.8 volvo S40, a 2008 with 20,000 kms, yes kms and he was thinking about getting a diesel to save money.

I think I turned him off it after I told him about depreciation and interest and the difference between the petrol V diesel. An also said his 2008 is practically brand new to keep it another 10 years if he really wants to save money.

Or better yet, get rid of the car and rent when he needs one as he drives the mile to work and back every day !!! Walk or get a bike the lazy git ! He did in fairness live 10 Kms from work when he bought the car.

Still 28K on a brand new car to do 20 kms a day, people are nuts !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Scortho wrote: »

The petrol has gotten to mr hot pocket

In fairness, I have done about 350 miles in a 5.7 v8 in the past week.
I'll be back on the soot brigade in a couple of weeks.

(as an aside, that 1.6 straight diesel golf I was looking at in Galway is still for sale...)

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes but the one spending the 15K is probably equal to the person spending 50 K, from a financial point of view ?

But maybe they calculate over 3 years a saving over 600 a year on motor tax so that could towards paying the interest on the Loan ?

But I still wouldn't drive a 1.0L 3 cylinder if it was given to me for free !

!

Even if you break even, surely it is better to spend the cash on a few nice cars than one 132 econobox?

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep, but diesel is so embedded in peoples brains now that it automatically is the first thing people think about.

My mate said he wanted to get a new car because the road tax was getting too high on his 1.8 volvo S40, a 2008 with 20,000 kms, yes kms and he was thinking about getting a diesel to save money.

I think I turned him off it after I told him about depreciation and interest and the difference between the petrol V diesel. An also said his 2008 is practically brand new to keep it another 10 years if he really wants to save money.

Or better yet, get rid of the car and rent when he needs one as he drives the mile to work and back every day !!! Walk or get a bike the lazy git ! He did in fairness live 10 Kms from work when he bought the car.

Still 28K on a brand new car to do 20 kms a day, people are nuts !

28k :eek:
I would be able to import a classic dodge viper for that! Some people have too much money to waste on mundane travel!!

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

(as an aside, that 1.6 straight diesel golf I was looking at in Galway is still for sale...)

1.6 Straight diesel ? must be very old ? and probably slow as hell !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Even if you break even, surely it is better to spend the cash on a few nice cars than one 132 econobox?

Absolutely, but to some it's the importance and image of the new number plate, it makes them feel better than Joe next door in his 00.

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

28k :eek:
I would be able to import a classic dodge viper for that! Some people have too much money to waste on mundane travel!!

I tried to explain what he would have got for the money, lovely leather and extras, but instead he wanted the brand new poverty Irish spec car.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Deleted User wrote: »

1.6 Straight diesel ? must be very old ? and probably slow as hell !

Ah but that's the charm. Its a mark II golf 1.6 non turbo.
Perfect candidate for felt speccing it, matte black and straight piped!

Deleted User wrote: »

Absolutely, but to some it's the importance and image of the new number plate, it makes them feel better than Joe next door in his 00.


I tried to explain what he would have got for the money, lovely leather and extras, but instead he wanted the brand new poverty Irish spec car.

You can buy a number plate online for a tenner, I don't understand why people in Ireland buy a numberplate on a hairdryer sized engine for thousands!

Scortho

Mad lad I've never found myself agreeing with you more than in the last few weeks! :eek:
has your account been hacked?
I always thought you were a save the world hippy and that we should all drive ev's etc etc. :pac:

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Scortho wrote: »

Mad lad I've never found myself agreeing with you more than in the last few weeks! :eek:
has your account been hacked?
I always thought you were a save the world hippy and that we should all drive ev's etc etc. :pac:

I was wondering the same. I think his brain has been fried from the battery acid!

Scortho

Scortho wrote: »

Mad lad I've never found myself agreeing with you more than in the last few weeks! :eek:
has your account been hacked?
I always thought you were a save the world hippy and that we should all drive ev's etc etc. :pac:

Haha I never said people should all be driving Evs but people don't fully understand the benefits or technology. Granted they have a ways to go but for a lot of people they're perfect.

For me I can't afford one yet, however it could save a lot of money if buying a car of the same price. No other car could compare.

Of course. I have limits, I would rather drive the Prius than the Zoe. The Zoe is very slow, but perfect if most of your driving is in the city, as is it's intended purpose anyway.

But I understand that driving is is to a lot of people more than just economy.

But I think to most people it is more about economy the motors section of boards naturally is full of petrol heads.

Scortho

Deleted User wrote: »

Haha I never said people should all be driving Evs but people don't fully understand the benefits or technology. Granted they have a ways to go but for a lot of people they're perfect.

For me I can't afford one yet, however it could save a lot of money if buying a car of the same price. No other car could compare.

Of course. I have limits, I would rather drive the Prius than the Zoe. The Zoe is very slow, but perfect if most of your driving is in the city, as is it's intended purpose anyway.

But I understand that driving is is to a lot of people more than just economy.

But I think to most people it is more about economy the motors section of boards naturally is full of petrol heads.

Id nearly agree, if you're willing to spend x amount on a 2013 diesel ****box to save a few pennies, then you really shouldn't diss an ev. Id rather see more ev's on the road than 1.4 d4d ****box's

Scortho

Scortho wrote: »

Id nearly agree, if you're willing to spend x amount on a 2013 diesel ****box to save a few pennies, then you really shouldn't diss an ev. Id rather see more ev's on the road than 1.4 d4d ****box's

Well I guarantee a leaf is a million times better to drive than Any 1 litre petrol even up to 2.0l and miles better than any rattle box diesel of normal power not talking 535d power but that's model S territory, though the model s would beat it.

Sure top speed is limited but I don't normally drive over 80 mph anyway.

Range sure but 140 miles a day is achievable, or plug in at work, but that's really an issue of policy or lack of.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I was wondering the same. I think his brain has been fried from the battery acid!

mickdw

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I was wondering the same. I think his brain has been fried from the battery acid!

Account hacked surely seeing as he is not highlighting how a prius could do everything better than the A6.

_Kaiser_

I have a 3.0 TDI Quattro A6 (2005) that I pay the €422 per quarter on so in reality it's not €1494 at all.. it's €1688

However I changed from a 2.0 TDI Passat that was €800 a year (€200 per quarter) so the difference is €888 per year / €222 per quarter / €74 per month / €2.46 per day (roughly).

Or put another way.. it's less than the cost of an extra cup of coffee per day, and for that I get a machine that always brings a smile to my face when I put the foot down (and has a very nice noise for a diesel IMO)

Well worth it!

mickdw

mickdw wrote: »

Account hacked surely seeing as he is not highlighting how a prius could do everything better than the A6.

I certainly love my brothers A6 , 2.0 170 hp tdi multitronic all leather gadgets lovely car to drive.

Only complaint is the sports suspension is too firm for my liking for the roads I drive on.

I really love Audi interiors.

The Prius is far more economical and very reliable but I'm getting tired of it now. I'd really like a leaf but can't afford it now.

Next year you will be able to find a leaf for about 9-11k the problem is I don't know the battery degradation rate yet.

Even if the leaf had 50 miles range, it could still easily replace the crv.

beauf

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

...28k :eek:
I would be able to import a classic dodge viper for that! Some people have too much money to waste on mundane travel!!

While a great car. You wouldn't be able to park in many places without people messing with it, or trying to steal it. I expect it would break your heart having that car in Ireland.

markad1

My 06 bmw 520d is currently €710 to tax :mad:

Scortho

markad1 wrote: »

My 06 bmw 520d is currently €710 to tax :mad:

My alfa is 1080...reason why it was so cheap!

beauf

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

There are of course, but there are other cars with far lower running costs for any even half way "fun" car.

If running costs are the sole criteria, sure we would all join the EV brigade

I wasn't talking about being focused on running costs. Just that you have to pass a lot of fun cars before you get to a 3L Diesel Audi on the fun per buck scale. The Audi primary purpose is image rather than anything else. Nice place to be no doubt.

beauf

Theres a good review of this in EVO this month.

http://uk.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-160

TURBOCHARGED 660CC SUZUKI THREE-CYLINDER
0-60 MPH 6.50 SECONDS
TOP SPEED 100 MPH
80 BHP

Hows that for low tax?