The first 3D printed metal gun is here

IvaBigWun

We've already had a plastic 3D printed gun and now we have a metal one.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/7/5077718/worlds-first-3d-printed-metal-gun-fires-over-50-rounds

Worried yet?

Just wait til they start printing ballistic missiles

The Diabolical Monocle

IvaBigWun wrote: »

We've already had a plastic 3D printed gun and now we have a metal one.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/7/5077718/worlds-first-3d-printed-metal-gun-fires-over-50-rounds

Worried yet?

Just wait til they start printing ballistic missiles

I need my ballistic missile to protect me from burglars armed with ballistic missiles.

biko

3d printers banned in 3..2..1..

The Backwards Man

Non story. It's a lot easier to make a conventional gun.

Fr_Dougal

I'd say the ink for those yokes cost a few quid.

Rayne Wooney

Can those things print plutonium? .. just out of curiosity

NuckingFacker

Shame they're crap at printing gunpowder.

Bandana boy

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Shame they're crap at printing gunpowder.

you do not need a license to buy bullets just the gun.

Karl Stein

You wouldn't download a pizza.

It wasn't me!

Bandana boy wrote: »

you do not need a license to buy bullets just the gun.

Where is this?

SV

Bandana boy wrote: »

you do not need a license to buy bullets just the gun.

Try and buy shotgun bullets without a license.

kowloon

Carlos Roca wrote: »

You wouldn't download a pizza.

I'd download a lethal dose of Tom Yam and finish myself off with Sushi and a lamb Shawarma.

wazky

biko wrote: »

3d printers banned in 3..2..1..

"Tax them!!, Tax them all!"

The Big Smoke

Carlos Roca wrote: »

You wouldn't download a pizza.

I'd like a pizza that.

kowloon

kowloon wrote: »

I'd download a lethal dose of Tom Yam and finish myself off with Sushi and a lamb Shawarma.

I've just realised how fixated on food I am tonight. Food I can't get my hands on. Wouldn't be a problem if I wasn't stuck with this crappy printer that only does paper. :mad:

hansfrei

Let me know when I can 3D print some bitches.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

god, i love the future

NuckingFacker

Bandana boy wrote: »

you do not need a license to buy bullets just the gun.

Cool. I'm off to buy bullets to sell to all the lads that can't get them themselves. This is just me specifically we're talking about?

The One Who Knocks

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Where is this?

'Murica!

You can buy ammunition at Walmart!

greedygoblin

Can you use old printer cartridges for ammo?

It wasn't me!

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

'Murica!

You can buy ammunition at Walmart!

That'd be the same place you can also buy the guns without a licence either so.

The One Who Knocks

It wasn't me! wrote: »

That'd be the same place you can also buy the guns without a licence either so.

You need a licence for the lower receiver, everything else can be bought pretty much anywhere.

BillyMitchel

I don't have a focking clue how this 3D printing works.

Witcher

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

You need a licence for the lower receiver, everything else can be bought pretty much anywhere.

No such thing as a licence in the US, you fill out a 4473 for a federal background check and you walk out.

NuckingFacker

Blay wrote: »

No such thing as a licence in the US, you fill out a 4473 for a federal background check and you walk out.

Sort of defeats the purpose of printing a gun so. Sure just go to walmart and buy one..and some ammo.

LifeSaabItch

Is it possible to buy a 3D printer and them print another 3D printer from it?

Keep your receipt and then take back the new one. :cool:

greedygoblin

LifeSaabItch wrote: »

Is it possible to buy a 3D printer and them print another 3D printer from it?

Keep your receipt and then take back the new one. :cool:

I think it's been done (bar one or two components that needed to be handmade).

IvaBigWun

Blay wrote: »

No such thing as a licence in the US, you fill out a 4473 for a federal background check and you walk out.

And then they wonder why there's so many shootings

The One Who Knocks

IvaBigWun wrote: »

And then they wonder why there's so many shootings

Statistically the crime rates are higher in states where firearms are banned, and in the ones where they're not banned, the majority of shootings are by people carrying illegal firearms.

Hate to say it but people kill people, not guns (except in accidental situations, but even then it's pretty much down to human ignorance)

It's possible to safely own firearms and use for hunting/sport without being a homicidal maniac. Guns shouldn't be banned in the US, but gun control definitely needs to be increased.

Sorry.. I'm just sick of this whole "'Murica!" attitude, where everyone is supposedly gun toting cowboys.

Stinicker

SV wrote: »

Try and buy shotgun bullets without a license.

Yeah, they'd well laugh at you, they are known as shotgun cartridges or sometimes shotgun shells in the USA.

Gatling

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Statistically the crime rates are higher in states where firearms are banned, and in the ones where they're not banned, the majority of shootings are by people carrying illegal firearms.

Hate to say it but people kill people, not guns (except in accidental situations, but even then it's pretty much down to human ignorance)

It's possible to safely own firearms and use for hunting/sport without being a homicidal maniac. Guns shouldn't be banned in the US, but gun control definitely needs to be increased.

Sorry.. I'm just sick of this whole "'Murica!" attitude, where everyone is supposedly gun toting cowboys.

I'll completely disagree , the majority of gun violence in america is committed with legally held fire arms ,
And people choose to kill with guns not through ignorance or other reasons but because they choose to take a fire arm and load it with live rounds ,then choose to point at an individual and choose to pull the trigger ,the weapon is the person the gun is just a tool for that person who chooses to kill ,
As the the crime figures in a lot of states gun crime isn't actually recorded unless a person has been injured by a discharged firearm ,
Where in the uk the treat to use a firearm is recorded as violent gun crime ,

America needs restrictions but the few million legal fire arms owners have more power than the majority of non gun owner citizen's,

SV

Stinicker wrote: »

Yeah, they'd well laugh at you, they are known as shotgun cartridges or sometimes shotgun shells in the USA.

Did ya know what I meant? Yeah, good man.

biko

hansfrei wrote: »

Let me know when I can 3D print some bitches.

They did that already in Weird Science (1985).

B.A._Baracus

The future be scary
A 3d printer is basically the early forms of a Star Trek Replicator when you think about.


But should the world be afraid of 3d printers? ... me thinks no and yes. The printers are a great idea. But if people are going to be printing guns on them you have to figure such a negative impact they'll have.

fenris

You would build something less likely to remove half of your own face from parts bought in Woodies.

Have a look at Thingiverse to see the kinds of things that you can 3D print

http://www.thingiverse.com/

Stinicker

SV wrote: »

Did ya know what I meant? Yeah, good man.

I know well what you mean, even if criminals "print" a gun here it is of no use to them unless they can print ammunition because to purchase ammunition here is highly regulated.

Gatling

Stinicker wrote: »

I know well what you mean, even if criminals "print" a gun here it is of no use to them unless they can print ammunition because to purchase ammunition here is highly regulated.

But if there criminals they won't be buying the regulated variety of ammunition,

I get the sneeky suspicion you could actually print metal cartridge's if you had the know how

B.A._Baracus

It's easier to ship ten thousand bullets into the country than ten thousand guns.

For me, the whole printing a 3d gun isn't about what you can currently do. It's the future. In ten years, 3d printing machines and materials will be cheaper. Not to mention 10 years of research, design and free plans being shared over the internet. Who knows, by that time it might be so simple to print a shell casing. Only needing gun powder to make the bullet (But lets think logically... the first shell to get printed will be a shotgun shell)

I am totally for 3d printers But the possibilities are something else...

Witcher

Can't see it ever being a problem here, ammunition is too tightly controlled and even if the casing could be printed the other component parts just aren't available here to make a complete round.

Criminals here just smuggle firearms in anyway, has never been an issue upto now so can't see them going over to dodgy printed guns.

Manic Moran

Gatling wrote: »

I'll completely disagree , the majority of gun violence in america is committed with legally held fire arms

http://www.nij.gov/nij/topics/crime/gun-violence/acquired.htm

Surveys of offenders have found that they prefer newer, high-quality guns and may steal or borrow them; most, however, acquire guns “off the street” through the illicit gun market.

Also: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

Supported by the National Institute of Justice and based on interviews with those recently arrested, the study acknowledges gun theft is common, with 13 percent of all arrestees interviewed admitting that they had stolen a gun.However a key finding is that "the illegal market is the most likely source" for these people to obtain a gun

America needs restrictions but the few million legal fire arms owners have more power than the majority of non gun owner citizen's,

No, we don't. I only have one vote, just like everyone else. I only have the dollars to donate to causes (or even the industry) that I earn, just like everyone else. We have the same power. We just happen to care a bit more.

diomed

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Statistically the crime rates are higher in states where firearms are banned, and in the ones where they're not banned, the majority of shootings are by people carrying illegal firearms.

Hate to say it but people kill people, not guns (except in accidental situations, but even then it's pretty much down to human ignorance)

It's possible to safely own firearms and use for hunting/sport without being a homicidal maniac. Guns shouldn't be banned in the US, but gun control definitely needs to be increased.

Sorry.. I'm just sick of this whole "'Murica!" attitude, where everyone is supposedly gun toting cowboys.

A fuller description would be "people with guns kill people without guns".

ted1

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Statistically the crime rates are higher in states where firearms are banned, and in the ones where they're not banned, the majority of shootings are by people carrying illegal firearms.

Hate to say it but people kill people, not guns (except in accidental situations, but even then it's pretty much down to human ignorance)

It's possible to safely own firearms and use for hunting/sport without being a homicidal maniac. Guns shouldn't be banned in the US, but gun control definitely needs to be increased.

Sorry.. I'm just sick of this whole "'Murica!" attitude, where everyone is supposedly gun toting cowboys.

Guns are designed to kill, people aren't

SV

ted1 wrote: »

Guns are designed to kill, people aren't

Some people are

Gatling

ted1 wrote: »

Guns are designed to kill, people aren't

Gun is a tool ,

A person chooses to kill

IvaBigWun

Re; Americans being able to buy firearms in Walmart

I would imagine that if the Irish could buy a gun in Tescos then we'd be really fcuked

Capt'n Midnight

Carlos Roca wrote: »

You wouldn't download a pizza.

first generation pizza machines are a little big

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grFroepBfwo

Capt'n Midnight

The One Who Knocks wrote: »

Sorry.. I'm just sick of this whole "'Murica!" attitude, where everyone is supposedly gun toting cowboys.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/polizei-schoss-2011-seltener-im-dienst-a-832037.html

The stats for the German police for 2011 was 85 shots fired

That's not per officer. That's for the entire police force in a country with a population of 80 million.


The breakdown was
"49 warning shots, 36 shots on suspects. 15 persons were injured, 6 were killed."

BTW
There were another 9,000 shots on sick and dangerous animals.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/05/german-police-used-only-85-bullets-against-people-2011/52162/

Murica!

Red Kev

greedygoblin wrote: »

Can you use old printer cartridges for ammo?

Maybe Sinn Fein knew about this and that's why Aengus o'Snodaigh was stockpiling the printer cartridges the last couple of years. :eek:

ted1

Gatling wrote: »

Gun is a tool ,

A person chooses to kill

What's the intended use for the tool?

Gatling

ted1 wrote: »

What's the intended use for the tool?

Vermin control ,

Hunting food ,

Then you have the sport element

Capt'n Midnight

Gatling wrote: »

Vermin control ,

Hunting food ,

Then you have the sport element

Vermin control and sport don't require rounds designed to be lethal to humans

The military aren't allowed to use dum-dum's but in 'merica you can buy them off the shelf

and for hunting food, unless you are hunting big game the standard round will rip apart things like birds and rabbits