yet Another Garda charged in the courts

carzony

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1108/485528-damien-jermyn-court/

Dirty Bastard. He even looks like a pedo.....

cometogether

How does someone look like a paedophile?

balfe1990

Jesus, THAT chap is 30?

Hootanany

Yup our fine upstanding peace keepers [nounce] allegedly

balfe1990

cometogether wrote: »

How does someone look like a paedophile?

I refer you to the pic in the article.

Banjo String

carzony wrote: »

Dirty Bastard. He even looks like a pedo.....

Can you be a bit more specific

What does a pedo look like? So as can keep an eye out.

wotzgoingon

Fúcking bent bastárd.

PLUG71

Yep dirty bastard!!

Overheal

cometogether wrote: »

How does someone look like a paedophile?

I don't know about that, but that nose looks like its scraped some sh!te out of the bosses arse, you know?

lertsnim

carzony wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1108/485528-damien-jermyn-court/

Dirty Bastard. He even looks like a pedo.....

Yet another Garda charged indeed. How many is that now?

hardCopy

cometogether wrote: »

How does someone look like a paedophile?

He looks like this guy:
http://dmpmnxvfdwr3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dirty_old_man_family-guy.jpg

Boombastic

he 'resigned', why not sacked?

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Boombastic wrote: »

he 'resigned', why not sacked?

more than likely resigned before he was convicted. He obviously would have been sacked otherwise

Nodin

lertsnim wrote: »

Yet another Garda charged indeed. How many is that now?

Cal me mad, but wouldn't it be a problem if no gardai were being charged?

WilyCoyote

Boombastic wrote: »

he 'resigned', why not sacked?

By being allowed to resign he may keep quiet about 'unusual' activity by the boys in blue.

rolliepoley

Banjo String wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific

What does a pedo look like? So as can keep an eye out.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo

kerry4sam

carzony wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1108/485528-damien-jermyn-court/
...

I knew Damien who even offered to assist me in the past with a college assignment if needed. I did not know about this.

Hootanany wrote: »

Yup our fine upstanding peace keepers [nounce] allegedly

I am not getting wound up again in yet another situation involving these alleged 'Professionals'. Sickened!

lertsnim wrote: »

Yet another Garda charged indeed. How many is that now?

According to the article "The GSOC said Jermyn is the fourth garda to go to prison following an investigation by the Ombudsman."

4 far too many considering their position in An Garda Siochána, abuse of position, abuse full-stop! Sick to the stomach with this organisation :mad: Sorry to ever have any dealings with them in any capacity. Far too many on the negative side to trust them in full again.

Defilement of a child, ah sweet jesus!

monkeysnapper

carzony wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/1108/485528-damien-jermyn-court/

Dirty Bastard. He even looks like a pedo.....

So what your saying is if somebody looks like this man he must be a pedo, can you send us a picture of yourself on here please so we can have a look at you ...... Just to be on the safe side.... So we can make a judgment based on your looks .

Cheers

kupus

Banjo String wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific

What does a pedo look like? So as can keep an eye out.

Depends on which eye is looking out.

renegademaster

kerry4sam wrote: »

I knew Damien who even offered to assist me in the past with a college assignment if needed. I did not know about this.



I am not getting wound up again in yet another situation involving these alleged 'Professionals'. Sickened!



According to the article "The GSOC said Jermyn is the fourth garda to go to prison following an investigation by the Ombudsman."

4 far too many considering their position in An Garda Siochána, abuse of position, abuse full-stop! Sick to the stomach with this organisation :mad: Sorry to ever have any dealings with them in any capacity. Far too many on the negative side to trust them in full again.

Defilement of a child, ah sweet jesus!

like any other profession that gives individuals positions of great power or influence it will be abused and with that comes a very difficult challenge to not play along yourself as you'd be in a minority and ostricised for being an odd ball!

i wish i could counter your argument the whole force is damaged but in my mind i know it is due to my own past experiences. if they were worth their salt we'd be in a much better country with true justice being dealt out to those who deserve it and leave the rest of us alone. we the Irish people should be doing a lot more to force real change in this god forsaken country, for once and for all!!

Tigger

he had sex with a 16 year old who in many countries could give and would give consent

if he was a 30 year old woman there is no way he'd of got time

Absoluvely

cometogether wrote: »

How does someone look like a paedophile?

Carzony has an excellent sense of paedar.

Hootanany

WilyCoyote wrote: »

By being allowed to resign he may keep quiet about 'unusual' activity by the boys in blue.

And keep his pension disgraceful

B.A._Baracus

So a Gardai gets done for having underage sex with a teenager... but that's not the key issue here for some. It's because in the op's opinion he thinks the person in question looks like a 'pedo' ...

So let me get this straight to those people, you took more of an issue to respond to the op's comments, than the subject matter at hand?

Wtf is wrong with you people?
Is it because he was a Gardai? and "no, no, cant have anyone slagging the gardai" - ffs! what if he was some skanger looking bloke. Would you have the same comments?


... answer is no.

Guy:Incognito

If he drove hom over the border where the age or consent is 16 rather than 17 , would he still be a pedo?

Untouchable Peasant

I don't think many people understand the meaning of the word peadophile.

Guy:Incognito

Boombastic wrote: »

he 'resigned', why not sacked?

Should everyone brought to court be sacked from their job before they have been found guilty of a crime?

What happens if they'd sacked him then he was aquitted?

Guy:Incognito

Untouchable Peasant wrote: »

I don't think many people understand the meaning of the word peadophile.

Apparently having sex with someone before 12 at night on the day before their 17th birthday qualifies you.

B.A._Baracus

Just what age are we talking about tho?
I read the article and it just says teenage... I mean are we talking 16 here or 13?

Guy:Incognito

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Just what age are we talking about tho?
I read the article and it just says teenage... I mean are we talking 16 here or 13?

The 9th paragraph says he was 16. He met him on a site for over 18s and told him he was 18 the first time theh met.

B.A._Baracus

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The 9th paragraph says he was 16. He met him on a site for over 18s and told him he was 18 the first time theh met.

Ouch. How could he have known I guess.
I honestly thought we were talking 13 or something here. Doesn't make him a pedo upon hearing he was 16.

TerrorFirmer

predictable usual rabble rousing after hours response. This place has become a joke. He had sex with someone he met on a gay website, not knowing he was 16, believing him to be 18. Now, meeting him again knowing he was only 16, yes, that IS wrong, but really, hardly deserving of comments like:

Fúcking bent bastárd.

Defilement of a child, ah sweet jesus!

It was wrong, he got sacked, but really, hardly a paedophile....someone even asked 'What age is the teenager'? It's explained EXTREMELY clearly in the article, if some people would bother to read it before frantically hammering out your frenzied response.

Boombastic

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Should everyone brought to court be sacked from their job before they have been found guilty of a crime?

What happens if they'd sacked him then he was aquitted?

who said anything about being sacked before conviction? why was he allowed to resign after conviction ?

pension?
sympathetic superiors?

MonstaMash

WilyCoyote wrote: »

By being allowed to resign he may keep quiet about 'unusual' activity by the boys in blue.

In all fairness to An Garda Síochána, there are good & bad in all facets of society...corruption is rife wherever there is power...

Not all Gardaí are corrupt, the majority of them are honest, decent citizens with a demanding job that most people wouldn't have the stones or the stomach for...

You can't tar a whole organization with the same brush because of a minority of bad apples.

stoneill

Nodin wrote: »

Cal me mad, but wouldn't it be a problem if no gardai were being charged?

You're mad.

examine

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

predictable usual rabble rousing after hours response. This place has become a joke. He had sex with someone he met on a gay website, not knowing he was 16, believing him to be 18. Now, meeting him again knowing he was only 16, yes, that IS wrong, but really, hardly deserving of comments like:





It was wrong, he got sacked, but really, hardly a paedophile....someone even asked 'What age is the teenager'? It's explained EXTREMELY clearly in the article, if some people would bother to read it before frantically hammering out your frenzied response.

You're wrong. Many Catholic priests tried to play the "hey, I'm not a paedophile, I'm an ephebophile" card and lost. There's no difference between a paedo and and ephebo when you're in general population.

I hope he gets his head kicked in in jail.

examine

A shocking photo:

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000aYSCRGhUX5s/s/750/41-Road-Safety-Launch-8087.jpg

examine

MonstaMash wrote: »

In all fairness to An Garda Síochána, there are good & bad in all facets of society...corruption is rife wherever there is power...

Not all Gardaí are corrupt, the majority of them are honest, decent citizens with a demanding job that most people wouldn't have the stones or the stomach for...

You can't tar a whole organization with the same brush because of a minority of bad apples.

Unless we're talking about the Catholic Church, which is inherently evil.

MonstaMash

examine wrote: »

Unless we're talking about the Catholic Church, which is inherently evil.

I'm an apathetic agnostic, bordering on atheist, with no love for religious dogma, I think it's fair to say

But...I have met Catholic priests in war zones that I served in, who were true heroes & humanitarians & once again, I have to say, you cannot tar a whole organization with same brush etc., etc.

mr_edge_to_you

They shouldn't have lowered the height requirements a few years back.

Grayson

examine wrote: »

I hope he gets his head kicked in in jail.

For having consensual sex with a 16 year old, who told him he was 18 and who he met on an over 18's website?

Ok, the guy went back for more after he found out. But there's still a huge difference between what he did and someone who rapes a 5 year old girl.

Cool_CM

carzony wrote: »

He even looks like a pedo.....

Doesn't really make him a very good one so...

RustyNut

MonstaMash wrote: »

I'm an apathetic agnostic, bordering on atheist, with no love for religious dogma, I think it's fair to say

But...I have met Catholic priests in war zones that I served in, who were true heroes & humanitarians & once again, I have to say, you cannot tar a whole organization with same brush etc., etc.

Indeed there's good and bad people in all organisations, however when the organisation in question is willing to cover up crimes and use it's vast resources to facilitate criminals to commit some of the most horrific crimes imaginable and then help them avoid justice,I think it's safe to condem the organisation despite the presence of a few good men.

Corcaigh101

Grayson wrote: »

For having consensual sex with a 16 year old, who told him he was 18 and who he met on an over 18's website?

Ok, the guy went back for more after he found out. But there's still a huge difference between what he did and someone who rapes a 5 year old girl.

This Garda bought and plied a 16 old boy with drink first then sexually abused the boy in a graveyard.

The Garda knew the boy was 16 as he was called out to the HSE residential unit
on official Garda duties on at least four occasions.
The Garda targeted a boy in a residential unit for vulnerable children
before any contact on an 18's website.

A huge cover up by the Gardai and HSE trying to deflect the truth
and protect the overall image of the Gardai and HSE in this case.

Shame on them!

minidazzler

Corcaigh101 wrote: »

This Garda bought and plied a 16 old boy with drink first then sexually abused the boy in a graveyard.

The Garda knew the boy was 16 as he was called out to the HSE residential unit
on official Garda duties on at least four occasions.
The Garda targeted a boy in a residential unit for vulnerable children
before any contact on an 18's website.

A huge cover up by the Gardai and HSE trying to deflect the truth
and protect the overall image of the Gardai and HSE in this case.

Shame on them!

You should provide proof if you are going to make libelous allegations.

suicide_circus

if the child in question had been a girl there would be no one defending this ex garda.

Corcaigh101

What proof would satisfy you? what I have wrote above are facts not "libelous allegations"
The Gardai including the Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan are well aware of where the initial contact was.
Ask them yourself and while your at it ask them why in April of this year was the charge
of attempting to pervert the course
of Justice dropped, only then did this Garda plead guilty to the two other offences.
State bodies are involved here, their overall image was paramount at any cost.

TheNog

Corcaigh101 wrote: »

What proof would satisfy you? what I have wrote above are facts not "libelous allegations"
The Gardai including the Garda Commissioner Martin Callinan are well aware of where the initial contact was.
Ask them yourself and while your at it ask them why in April of this year was the charge
of attempting to pervert the course
of Justice dropped, only then did this Garda plead guilty to the two other offences.
State bodies are involved here, their overall image was paramount at any cost.

If certain charges were withdrawn for a guilty plea then just so you know this is done in a lot cases throughout the country. It is done so as to avoid a costly hearing requiring all witnesses to give evidence and to save court time. Those charges that are withdrawn are charges of less seriousness than others.

Also to say the Garda attended the centre 4 times and knew the child was a residence there, the Garda's legal team could not say he didn't knew he was underage unless there was solid proof that he did.

I cannot see how any less damage was done to AGS without your alleged information you have provided being brought up in court

Femme_Fatale

Tigger wrote: »

he had sex with a 16 year old who in many countries could give and would give consent

if he was a 30 year old woman there is no way he'd of got time

There'd just be guys saying "nnnnnnnnice".

suicide_circus wrote: »

if the child in question had been a girl there would be no one defending this ex garda.

Speak for yourself. I would, if she led him to believe she was 18.

Zambia

The bloke made his own choices and now he gets to go to prison as an ex Garda and a sex offender. He is in disgrace.

If he makes it out of prison his life will be very different. Chances are he will emigrate within the eu very quickly.

One day he may well read this thread.

Corcaigh101

"Those charges that are withdrawn are charges of less seriousness than others"

The charge of attempting to pervert the course of Justice would have revealed the true character
of this Garda and the levels of lies and deception he resorted to cover up his tracks.

A costly hearing would have revealed the true failing of the HSE to provide an environment that was both safe and secure
for the vulnerable children in that HSE residential unit.

A costly hearing would have revealed the Gardai recorded times and days that
they called to this HSE residential unit, that's if they could find them?
Like the HIQA report on this HSE residential unit that has disappeared and never gone public?

Sure it never existed like a lot of the hidden unrevealed facts in this case as it's nobody's child.
Justice? Yeah right!

There is none more blind than those who refuse to see