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Is this the best prospect in boxing?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    He has never fought anyone who has lost a fight so that is fairly impressive, but you would still have to question the level of opponents he is fighting over in Yemen. Wouldn't be to up to date on minimumweight though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Ranked just outside the top 10 by boxrec. His brutal, methodical body attack is the most impressive thing about him. Considering how much harder it is to score knockouts in the lower weight classes it shows just how heavy handed he is as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    He's 40 next month. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Very impressive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Henno30 wrote: »
    Ranked just outside the top 10 by boxrec. His brutal, methodical body attack is the most impressive thing about him. Considering how much harder it is to score knockouts in the lower weight classes it shows just how heavy handed he is as well.

    The funniest thing is his comments on his own Youtube channel and videos; calling out Anthony Joshua as a fraud and copycat :pac:
    has to be a piss-take though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Pretty cool that he only fights undefeated opponents. Compare that to Mayweather who has only taken two '0's in his whole career. Raymi has taken nineteen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    It's an impressive record but from the clip it looks like it's down to the opposition. He seems to leave his chin exposed a lot relying on his head movement to get him out of trouble.
    He got caught a few times there with little affect, I think when he steps up he'll be caught out for being so open


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    ....Is this a joke? He is terrible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    ....Is this a joke? He is terrible

    I'm confused. He looks like a retard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    No doubt in my mind he could carry that power with him up a few weight classes. Very excited to see what the future holds for him, the ease with which he took out a scary fighter in Dalbant suggests he could go very far. Granite chin too, he ate some bombs there and didn't flinch.

    That was one of the most surreal videos I've seen. What the hell were they doing?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Quotes from his Youtube profile:
    Ali Raymi wrote:
    Thanks Steven. People forget that power is generated from a healthy fit body, attacking the body destroys everything, Body assault remains effective vs bigger guys, I don't lose accuracy/range because of head hunting which works only against fighters within range. I am an indoctrinated body puncher its my war ideology, its my sophisticated defense/offense, I destroyed some fancy looking fighters and neutralized their jab/lateral movement by attacking their nerve system & paralyzing them.

    and:
    Ali Raymi wrote:
    I need to win a title first at 105 lbs, then I will use my status as a champion at 105 lbs to pressure other champions in other weight classes Rigo doesn't have enough reach to make his superb boxing skills useful against me. I am not going to even waste time to put on extra weight, once I win the first major title I will immediately start KOing undefeated champions from every weight class, Rigondeaux is the most decorated hence the most targeted, since he is more likely to accept my challenge

    :D

    Here's another of his previously unbeaten 1st rd KO victims:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    moneyman wrote: »
    No doubt in my mind he could carry that power with him up a few weight classes. Very excited to see what the future holds for him, the ease with which he took out a scary fighter in Dalbant suggests he could go very far. Granite chin too, he ate some bombs there and didn't flinch.

    He's facing an unbeaten guy at bantamweight in his next fight. It's like the weight classes don't matter to him. Not surprising when you see him go to work though. A lot of people talk about GGG's body punching these days but GGG doesn't put 6 or 7 shots together like this guy does. He doesn't have the hand speed anyway. When Raymi goes to the body he's like a switchboard operator. Devastating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    colly10 wrote: »
    It's an impressive record but from the clip it looks like it's down to the opposition. He seems to leave his chin exposed a lot relying on his head movement to get him out of trouble.
    He got caught a few times there with little affect, I think when he steps up he'll be caught out for being so open

    Yeah, fair enough, he's got some holes in his game but that doesn't matter when you take in the full picture. It's not about doing everything by the book, it's about writing your own page and Raymi's doing just that. Go find a textbook boxer who's crumpled 19 consecutive opponents in the first round and you might be able to knock this guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    Is this a joke?

    He's all over the place fighting nobodies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Is this a joke?

    He's all over the place fighting nobodies

    He's ranked #11 on boxrec :rolleyes:

    You go fight some 'nobodies' and get yourself ranked 11th in the world. Each and every one of his opponents was undefeated too by the way. Which is a strange definition of a 'nobody' if you ask me.

    You have to remember that this is in the lower weight classes and these guys get little or no respect from the networks. Roman Gonzalez is one of the best ten fighters on the planet, and yet he's practically unknown because he fights at that weight. Look beyond the hype and look at the talent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Alpha Dog 1


    That's the funniest fight I've seen all week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭badabing106


    He is fighting tonight. Writing himself into history if he gets 20 first round ko's in a row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Alpha Dog 1


    He is fighting tonight. Writing himself into history if he gets 20 first round ko's in a row.

    Is it PPV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Most of the undefeated up and coming fighters he has faced have not got in a ring after he has destroyed them. His power must be something else. He will be into the top 10 with the WBO after his next KO1 and it will be great to see him bring a world title to his passionate Yemeni support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    pac_man wrote: »
    Just saw on Boxrec that he's now 20-0. That's 16 fights in 2013, quite impressive.

    Holy fu*k he did it!!! Another unbeaten opponent too!

    If it wasn't for the problems with his management in 2011 he'd be top 10 p4p by now. It's going to be massive when he faces off with Chocolatito. And as much as I love Gonzalez I honestly can't see how he's going to survive against an opponent like this. He just blew a full fledged bantamweight out in the first round. No one in those weight classes is surviving this guy's power.

    Ali bomaye! #noblueprint


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Picture from outside the stadium today. The guy's a national hero already :D

    He is going to be a hundred times bigger than Naz. Even more unorthodox, but with way more power.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    His twitter account is better than Fury's :D
    @aliraymi

    Undisputed champion = WBC+WBO+WBA+IBF
    I accept nothing less than complete submission of my adversaries. Polytheism will not be tolerated
    @aliraymi

    @sweetboxing I will KO them all WBC, WBA, IBF & WBO, its all jokes and games. Until they get in the ring and feel the punches.

    He also slated the IBO for not ranking him as highly as boxrec
    @aliraymi

    @PeteyProfit That comment is the reason the International Bum Organization only ranks South Africans, Hickup Budler will always be a nobody

    This is one of my favourites
    @aliraymi

    @kylewilson1986 Boxing is dominated by outdated doctrines. I am the Tank and they are cavalry, I am the iron sword they are Bronze and stone

    Get this guy on our TV screens now :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Jaysus Henno, I normally like your posts, but while writing this thread you must have been on drugs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    Henno30 wrote: »
    Holy fu*k he did it!!! Another unbeaten opponent too!

    If it wasn't for the problems with his management in 2011 he'd be top 10 p4p by now. It's going to be massive when he faces off with Chocolatito. And as much as I love Gonzalez I honestly can't see how he's going to survive against an opponent like this. He just blew a full fledged bantamweight out in the first round. No one in those weight classes is surviving this guy's power.

    Ali bomaye! #noblueprint

    Originally a serious thread. Now you have realised the error of your ways and shamefully changed tack.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Facing Samson Dutch Boy 43-0 (36) next. Raymi will take his soul.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    I'm confused of this is a joke or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    I'm confused of this is a joke or not


    It's all jokes and games. Until they get in the ring and feel the punches.

    - Ali Raymi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    Henno30 wrote: »
    It's all jokes and games. Until they get in the ring and feel the punches.

    - Ali Raymi

    Well Imo he's ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Samson Dutch Boy? He hasn't fought in over 10 years. lol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Well Imo he's ****

    What's your record?


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is this a pisstake?
    He has the style of an 11 year old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Is this a pisstake?
    He has the style of an 11 year old.

    No it's not, he's the real deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Alpha Dog 1


    Is this a pisstake?
    He has the style of an 11 year old.

    It's a wind up, but it's funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭gene_tunney


    I'm confused of this is a joke or not

    It was a joke until OP realised he had made a terrible call and then backtracked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Is this a pisstake?
    He has the style of an 11 year old.

    Google Ali Raymi,
    It's all over the boxing forums, a few doubters like yourself but the majority agree he is a future hall of famer.

    If you have any doubts, why don't you ask him yourself if he is legit:
    https://www.facebook.com/Ali.Raymi.Boxer?fref=ts
    https://twitter.com/aliraymi
    http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDpxEfyjEXt_ZVvkWGkBBUg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Is this a pisstake?
    He has the style of an 11 year old.

    Priests lie. Politicians lie. Numbers don't lie.

    20-0

    #noblueprint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Henno30 wrote: »
    Priests lie. Politicians lie. Numbers don't lie.

    20-0

    #noblueprint

    Video evidence doesn't lie either!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Can't wait for his most recent fight to be uploaded to youtube. He'll be PPV soon, best enjoy them free while we can.

    Floyd better hope and pray that he doesn't move up to 145, which he could with that devastating power. He'd put PBF into retirement, though I'm sure he'd duck him anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    The most impressive thing about Raymi is not that each of his victims was previously unbeaten but that none of them ever had another fight again. They were so badly affected that they couldn't bear to get in the ring again. Which other fighter can say that?...The power the guy has must be mind boggling


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You've all converted me. Just noticed how unorthodox he is, be a nightmare for the top guys.










    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Great interview with Raymi from Fight News - http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/qa-with-record-breaking-ko-artist-ali-raymi-20-0-with-all-20-wins-being-first-round-knockouts-231141


    Q&A with record-breaking KO Artist Ali Raymi (20-0 with all 20 wins being first round knockouts)

    By Robert Coster

    Undefeated strawweight boxer Ali Raymi (20-0, 20 KOs) broke Tyrone Brunson’s record of 19 consecutive first round knockouts at the beginning of a pro career, when he stopped Akram Jafwi (5-1) in the first round last Sunday at the 22 May Sports Stadium in Sana’a, Yemen. Raymi, 39, who speaks excellent English, has a huge personality to match his aggressive take no prisoners body attack that none of his opponents have been able to survive three minutes against. While none of his victims to date have been world class, Raymi is now ranked by the WBC at #15 and the WBO at #12, which would qualify him for a world title shot against WBC champion Xiong Zhao Zhong or WBO champion Merlito Sabillo. Should either of those world champions choose to make a defense against Raymi, it would certainly bring much needed attention to the 105lb division.


    Ali, first of all congratulations for entering the boxing history books. You have scored 20 first round knockouts, the new record. Even so, as you can probably guess, there are many skeptics out there that say that there is no boxing tradition in Yemen and that all your opponents have been Yemenis. What do you say to these people?

    Thanks Robert, I congratulate you for being my first interview and it only makes me more obligated to achieve boxing immortality, so you can be known as the first writer to interview me. I didn’t enter boxing history yet, the record you are referring to insults me more than anything. I didn’t KO people to challenge Tyrone “Biggums.” I shouldn’t be put in the same sentence with him. That said, I also don’t want to be compared to the great Edwin Valero because we are two different animals. Edwin Valero was more skilled than I am, but many times he chose to lure opponents into war like I always do.

    I agree the state of boxing is pathetic in Yemen, most boxers are simply [Naseem] Hamed stylists or plain basic boxers. This is because they’ve been trained by a Cuban trainer and an Iraqi trainer, Taha Bidani, who come from a strict amateur background. Also about half of my opponents were African.


    Any echo of your feat in Yemen? Are you a public figure/hero over there?

    In Yemen I am pretty much unknown outside of Sana’a and the few disinterested mentions in the newspapers, mainly because promoters brought in a chinny Belgian Yemeni and called him a champion. He was supposed to box, but I was around so they changed it into kickboxing. Now Yemenis rank this fragile guy as a hero, they praised him on Al Jazeera TV.

    Now they are bringing in Thai Samson, a guy few heard of! They already set up a win/win scenario in the boxrec forum. They hope he beats me, but when I stomp this name renter, they will say he was rusty or bribed by me, although everybody in Yemen knows I never have money and whatever money I make I give away immediately. Bravery and generosity go hand in hand and the opposite is true.

    In Yemen they want me to be someone I am not.


    Very little is known about pro boxing in Yemen. Boxing activity over there is like everywhere with regular shows, promoters, sponsors, TV coverage, fans paying at the gate? Do you receive the backing of local sponsors?

    This whole money issue never interested me, I am a fighter not a businessman! I come to break down people, when I put gloves on I enter a trance. I don’t see or feel anything around me, except my enemy.

    I refuse to sign any contract, lots of offers came, some are from good guys. I have to mention Mr. Welliver from the USA because he was the first to contact me and he seemed to be a good guy. He wanted me to fight Zhong, but I had to sign a longterm contract with his promoter which is out of the question. I never had a superior to me outside the ring or inside the ring, I don’t answer to anybody. I was offered a commercial for an energy drink to be done with USA top model Kate Upton, but they wanted me to gain more weight for the commercial and promote a product name that I didn’t really support. I also got lots of offers inside boxing and outside boxing from all over the world. Some were eccentric, but I didn’t get offended as I understand where they are coming from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    You are 39, Ali, a rather late age for boxing. You turned pro at 37. Can we have an idea of your trajectory? Did you have an amateur background? How did you get into the game? Is boxing your only profession? Who is your trainer?


    My style is intentionally natural, I will fight till the last moment of my biological existence. I don’t like discussing my pre-boxing past as I feel it will be considered inappropriately semi-legendary. So let’s say I’ve always been exceptionally fit. I credit Captain Nasr Al Code from the district of Mansoura in Aden for indoctrinating body punching ideology. He was expelled out of Yemen Amateur Boxing because he was eccentric and drank alcohol. He told me I have to change sports and become a boxer because I am the only boxer who can implement his war ideology. I vindicated him by KOing everybody in the amateurs in Yemen, becoming the National Champion of Yemen up until 2007. It’s still on record in the 26 September Yemen Arabic Newspaper. Lazy critics who claim I came out of nowhere are just busy soliciting more bribes instead of doing simple research using Google Translator! I am the masterpiece of Captain Nasr, I was 52 KG and he made me spar with heavyweights. I dominated all lower divisions up to 57 KG and pretty much KOed anybody regardless of weight in Yemen. Nasr is my first trainer, but I never saw him since 2007. I went back to Aden and they said he vanished. He is well known in Aden, but can’t be located now and I hope that I have him in my corner for my title defenses.

    For now I keep Taha Bidani in my corner. I had problems with Taha in the amateurs because I never threw jabs, but I gained his respect after I destroyed all his fighters using the style he hated so much.

    After 2007, I freelanced in a tourist complex next to the American Embassy. I mainly guarded private parties, most those entertained were diplomats and adventurers. In those days I made lots of friends from all over the world. By 2008 I was entertaining a select few by fighting in private events. Many fights ended violently as those opponents were trained to just do that and we fought bare knuckles with no rounds, I remained undefeated and at this period I got most my scars that are visible on my face. It was the only entertainment my friends enjoyed. Those became the base of my international fans when I turned pro.

    In 2011 I heard an Iraqi light heavyweight Boxer was going to fight pro, so I challenged him. The trainer knew I will KO him, so they gave me a fight vs a Yemeni pro-debut. At that time I was the heaviest at 54 kilo (118 lbs.). I KOed the guy and the Iraqi light heavyweight fought like a bum for four rounds. He avoided more fights because I always enjoyed punking him in front of his team. I fought three more times against doubters and the people behind them, demolishing them with ease. In May 2011, boxing slowed down, cause of turmoil and anarchy at that time. The parties ended, the few foreigners left and the buildings that serve alcohol became bullet ridden. I was not allowed to box they gave me various excuses and was in and out of jail because of my work in the Great Wall Restaurant. My fifth fight was after my layoff. I was supposed to lose. They trained Gadsi specifically to reach the decision. I took his best punches on my chin early on, countered with non-stop body shots, the ref kept breaking my body punching combos to help Gadsi survive, but I forced the KO few seconds before the end of the round. I felt his ribs crack by the KO punch and he never met me again.

    I am opposed in Yemen, notice in one of the GIF videos you will see the ref trying to help Ahmad Saeed get back his breath. They kept breaking my combinations, a technique they used in most the fights. They always broke my body attack in the middle of combinations! They only posted videos of Africans, because they don’t want to show the Yemeni opponents I destroyed.



    What do you consider are your main strengths as a boxer?

    My chin is titanium, my fists are uranium, I don’t kneel to anybody, because GOD is within me. I always walk in the ring with no family or friends or anything to be missed. My only responsibility is to make sure I don’t let down my fans worldwide. Champions who don’t want to be KOed brutally, have a choice to vacate the belts and move to another division or retire, I am at 105 lbs eternally.

    I never gain weight, the highest I reach is 118lbs/54KG although I usually KO much more heavier guys in all fights in the pros and before, when I train hard I reach as low as 103lbs/46KG. I feel best at 105lbs, the gloves are lighter so the velocity increased even more from the amateurs. People still don’t understand that fighting bigger guys is easier for me than the 105lbs. I will randomly KO hype job titleholders whenever I see one without leaving 105.


    What boxers in the 105 lb division would you like to fight in the near future? Would you consider fighting outside Yemen?

    I obviously prefer undefeated fighters, but I need Zhong’s WBC Green belt, also the WBO ranks me at #12 so I can fight Merlito Sabillo. ALA Boxing are boxing experts, so if they think Merlito Sabillo can survive my power they will give me a title shot. As I know I will never ever win a decision, so my mission is knockout. I train for eternal warfare. I harass boxing and martial arts gyms and go spar by force with bigger guys. I always stay in the kill zone and enforce war. It’s always my foes who back up regardless of how big or strong they are. Body punching is an art that very few boxers fully understand, every punch I throw is stronger than the punch that KOed De La Hoya. I will fight anywhere. It’s all the same I only can win by KO in Yemen or outside of Yemen.


    Considering the geography of Yemen, which regional belt could you fight for?

    I am interested in the LEGIT belts. I thank everybody who tried to help me win other belts. However, my goal is undisputed supremacy, that means WBC + WBO + WBA + IBF and that’s what it’s all about.

    Your wishes for 2014?

    I hope the WBA renames the inferior belts into something else. I will be very pissed when I become the undisputed champion and there is some loser I just KOed claiming to be the WBA champion also! The fans deserve clarity!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    Someone should have asked him "why do you show no technique or class and basically just swinng arms at the body? "

    This guy is useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Henno30


    Someone should have asked him "why do you show no technique or class and basically just swinng arms at the body? "

    This guy is useless.

    You're obsessed :rolleyes:

    Getting a little weird to be honest.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Henno30 wrote: »
    You're obsessed :rolleyes:

    Getting a little weird to be honest.

    07921.jpg

    Pot.
    Kettle.

    I suppose you have to keep the charade going anyway, just to see if the experiment of hyping an obviously useless boxer with a ridiculously padded record will actually convince some 'fans' that they are watching 'greatness'.

    It's in the 'throw enough sh!t at a wall and some of it will stick' territory. Are you doing a thesis on psychology or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Mega, I don't think one person in this thread is actually serious. Everyone knows it's a joke. Lighten up :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    I'm not sure his victims consider him a joke tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    moneyman wrote: »
    Mega, I don't think one person in this thread is actually serious. Everyone knows it's a joke. Lighten up :)

    Maybe. Sarcasm detection has never been my strongest point.

    I just thought from some of the comments that there are people out there who actually rate him. His record is on Boxrec and you know how some think it's all about stats, irrespective of what's behind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    A superfight with the all time great Super Bantamweight Saengmuangnoi Lukchapormasak aka Samson Dutch Boy Gym (record 43-0-0 with 36 wins by ko) is scheduled for the 20th December. Hopefully Boxnation or Sky can secure the rights for this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭anto77


    Anyone know if somewhere in town will be showing this? Fight probably deserves a thread of its own, these guys at the lighter weights really don't get the respect they deserve.

    Also is there a 24/7 or all access available yet? If there was any doubts about ali, Samson Dutch will find them out.

    Someone's 0 has to go!!


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