Anti rape underwear

MadsL

Ladies of AH, the modern chastity belt.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ar-wear-confidence-protection-that-can-be-worn

I'm not sure if they will hit their funding goal, but this is a cool idea.

BMJD

finally I can start going back to mass

wazky

BMJD wrote: »

finally I can start going back to mass

Arse stuck to the pew method didn't work no?

Amirani

Cue much awkwardness/frustration when you pull and are ripping each others clothes off.

wazky

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20008347-10391704.html

This is a better solution I think, basically a crocodile in your snatch.

kjl

I can see a load of drunk girls forgetting how to open them and end up peeing in them.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

surely that's just more rape culture victim blaming

Hande hoche!

Would seem to make a bathroom break more difficult.

MonkstownHoop

if i found out a woman i was on a first date with wore anti rape underwear it'd be the last she'd see of me, has it come to the stage where every man is considered a potential rapist

Frosty McSnowballs

What the fuq do you be Googling man?!

Ace Attorney

great idea and all, but whats to stop the aggressor from threatening to harm the wearer if she doent remove them, possibly leading to violence, has it come down to either being violently beaten or being raped?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

I want to say something like only available in sizes 14 or below but that would be a crass thing to say so I won't be doing that, no way! :cool:

Fr_Dougal

3/10. Try harder, OP.

BNMC

Paulinho yellow.

Muise...

this toothed condom is schadenfreude genius though:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/06/20/south.africa.female.condom/


oops, wazky already posted this, and put it better too!

Catari Jaguar

Wow, is this for real?? Ladies, take responsbility of your rapibility. Don't dare leave that house with your vagina unprotected, you are just asking to be raped.

How about... maybe, just don't rape? Stop raping!!

anncoates

wazky wrote: »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20008347-10391704.html

This is a better solution I think, basically a crocodile in your snatch.

Surely these type of devices would put the rape victim in an even more dangerous situation re: serious assault?

Crooked Jack

Catari Jaguar wrote: »

Wow, is this for real?? Ladies, take responsbility of your rapibility. Don't dare leave that house with your vagina unprotected, you are just asking to be raped.

How about... maybe, just don't rape? Stop raping!!

Who are you saying this to? Is somebody here pro-rape?

Pushtrak

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

if i found out a woman i was on a first date with wore anti rape underwear it'd be the last she'd see of me, has it come to the stage where every man is considered a potential rapist

Most rapists are people known to their victims, but this obviously would have more preventative potential than that. Have you got no empathy, though? If a person is wearing something like that, it should tell you they have serious concerns about their safety. But no, to you it is some attack on you.

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

great idea and all, but whats to stop the aggressor from threatening to harm the wearer if she doent remove them, possibly leading to violence, has it come down to either being violently beaten or being raped?

That's true, but if it works as well as it seems to here, then it would be a lot more efficient in cases where drugs are used, as one for instance.

eviltwin

Crooked Jack wrote: »

Who are you saying this to? Is somebody here pro-rape?

She's saying it to rapists presumably

Mad idea, it might protect the woman wearing it - although that is up for debate - but someone who wants to commit rape will find a victim. They won't just give up and go home because the first woman they attack is wearing these yokes.

Muise...

anncoates wrote: »

Surely these type of devices would put the rape victim in an even more dangerous situation re: serious assault?

possibly - but it would also give her a brief moment of having the upper hand in a struggle and that could be enough to get away.

smcgiff

anncoates wrote: »

Surely these type of devices would put the rape victim in an even more dangerous situation re: serious assault?

I can see the logic behind it. If it's an "opportunist" rapist time is not on their side. Also, I imagine rape to be as horrific an assault as any punch.

Femme_Fatale

There are all kinds of wrong with it: women, be afraid and paranoid and suspicious all the time; men, you are constantly under suspicion of being a potential rapist; women, not wearing this underwear means risking being raped; men, you don't get raped - only women do; women, rapists lurk in shadowy streets rather than being in places like the home.

Plus, as said, it's not like it can protect a woman from other harm a rapist could carry out on her.

Trying to make a buck out of scaremongering? Pretty crass to say the least. Hope it fails miserably.

Crooked Jack

Rapists. rapists everywhere. everyone is a potential rapist. "wear our product when travelli.g in a foreign country." ooohhh, de fordiners are d worst rapists, der all rapers in fordinland. there all rapers here too of course. why are these only for women? Does that mean its ok to rape men? Should i be afraid to go on a first date or clubbing or running?

The whole thing is idiotic and probably counterproductive. equally idiotic are those who see this as anothet excuse to wave the old "rape culture" flag around.

Femme_Fatale

anncoates wrote: »

Surely these type of devices would put the rape victim in an even more dangerous situation re: serious assault?

Particularly in countries like the Congo and Somalia where women are barely recognised as human as it is. It's a stupid, irresponsible idea and would get a woman/girl killed.

Crooked Jack

Muise... wrote: »

this toothed condom is schadenfreude genius though:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/06/20/south.africa.female.condom/


oops, wazky already posted this, and put it better too!

oh man. just think of all the ways that could go wrong

anncoates

smcgiff wrote: »

Also, I imagine rape to be as horrific an assault as any punch.

For sure, but it could turn an assault into a life threatening assault in some cases.

Ace Attorney

Pushtrak wrote: »

That's true, but if it works as well as it seems to here, then it would be a lot more efficient in cases where drugs are used, as one for instance.

but if someone is unconscious then surly It gives an attacker opportunity to use more heavy duty equipment to get these off, they arent after all indestructible

eviltwin

There must be some kind of hidden device that allows the user to release them easily enough otherwise I can't see why anyone would buy them. And if there is its going to be easy enough for a rapist to google it and find out what he needs to do to remove them.

Billy86

Catari Jaguar wrote: »

Wow, is this for real?? Ladies, take responsbility of your rapibility. Don't dare leave that house with your vagina unprotected, you are just asking to be raped.

How about... maybe, just don't rape? Stop raping!!

:rolleyes:

Next thing you know, you'll be asking us to only breathe air on weekends.

shruikan2553

Crooked Jack wrote: »

oh man. just think of all the ways that could go wrong

I could see guys getting them and sticking them on their friends for a laugh.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

surely that's just more rape culture victim blaming

Why is it any time something like this is mentioned or precautions people can make to reduce the risks it is "victim blaming" but to expect someone to lock their doors and close the windows or not wave a pile of money around isn't victim blaming theft culture.

Daveysil15

Jasus I've seen it all now. Women would be better off learning self defence.

Frosty McSnowballs

Someone needs to invent a "temporary vagina glue".

Like an expanding foam / polyfiller type thing. Just a swift and easy application that will last for 12 hours.

Tribb

Catari Jaguar wrote: »

Wow, is this for real?? Ladies, take responsbility of your rapibility. Don't dare leave that house with your vagina unprotected, you are just asking to be raped.

How about... maybe, just don't rape? Stop raping!!

Good one, im sure all the rapists will be convinced by " just don't rape".

bigron2109

Think its a Pretty cool idea but i showed it to the woman and she said she wouldn't wear it.

eviltwin

eviltwin wrote: »

There must be some kind of hidden device that allows the user to release them easily enough otherwise I can't see why anyone would buy them. And if there is its going to be easy enough for a rapist to google it and find out what he needs to do to remove them.

There are two tabs on the lock that you put in a particular position, with there being over a hundred possible combinations that are randomly assigned to each pair.

eviltwin

true-or-false wrote: »

There are two tabs on the lock that you put in a particular position, with there being over a hundred possible combinations that are randomly assigned to each pair.

Oh jesus, no I couldn't be bothered with all that palaver for a pair of knickers. I'll take my chances.

gctest50

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Jasus I've seen it all now. Women would be better off learning self defence.

Wont get the chance sometimes

RDM_83 again

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Particularly in countries like the Congo and Somalia where women are barely recognised as human as it is. It's a stupid, irresponsible idea and would get a woman/girl killed.

I didn't realise the problem with rape in those countries was directly due to the status of woman?
Is it not more to do with the general lack of recognition of "the other" as barely human
e.g if a guy is willing to rape a woman but he's also willing to chop limbs and torture a man its pretty safe to say that they have a pretty fcuked up level of humanity rather than just coming from a sexist society.

And men are raped a lot in those countries not doing the whataboutery thing but more taking exception at the idea that the problem is directly related to female status (word female being used to describe woman and girls!)
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men

xxmeabhxx

I'm sure the people who made this had good intentions but it's just such a ridiculous idea!

There must be an easy enough way for the woman wearing them to get them off which means a rapist could figure out to get them off in advance of the attack. They're not indestructible. Also, I do think they there should be less of a focus on what potential victims can do to not get raped as opposed to potential perpetrators not raping. It shouldn't be up to the potential victims to take precautions when going out to a party or club or to not wear revealing clothing. People should be able to wear what they want and go where they want and not get the blame if something happens them.

I also think most of the population of Ireland would benefit from reading the facts and information about sexual assault and rape on the drcc.ie website. It clears up common myths about rape using facts, figures and experience.

Femme_Fatale

RDM_83 again wrote: »

I didn't realise the problem with rape in those countries was directly due to the status of woman?

I didn't mean that - although there's surely a link. Just that women are powerless enough as it is, so trying to stand up for themselves in this way will just land them in more trouble.

eviltwin

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I didn't mean that - although there's surely a link. Just that women are powerless enough as it is, so trying to stand up for themselves in this way will just land them in more trouble.

So they should just let themselves be raped?

Femme_Fatale

eviltwin wrote: »

So they should just let themselves be raped?

Is not using one of these things "letting oneself be raped"?

eviltwin

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Is not using one of these things "letting oneself be raped"?

Look back at your posts. "standing up for themselves will land them in more trouble" What kind of message does that send out?

RDM_83 again

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I didn't mean that - although there's surely a link. Just that women are powerless enough as it is, so trying to stand up for themselves in this way will just land them in more trouble.

Oh I agree that woman being viewed as 2nd class citizens probably does increase the rates of rape but the situation in those countries is so fcuked up on a completely different level to something like the situation in India/The Middle East.

There is one situation where this could potentially useful and that if somebody was at a high risk of being drugged/spiked (and even then its a massive over reaction)

xxmeabhxx

xxmeabhxx wrote: »

I'm sure the people who made this had good intentions but it's just such a ridiculous idea!

There must be an easy enough way for the woman wearing them to get them off which means a rapist could figure out to get them off in advance of the attack. They're not indestructible. Also, I do think they there should be less of a focus on what potential victims can do to not get raped as opposed to potential perpetrators not raping. It shouldn't be up to the potential victims to take precautions when going out to a party or club or to not wear revealing clothing. People should be able to wear what they want and go where they want and not get the blame if something happens them.

There's a combination lock of two tabs with over a hundred possible combinations, so the rapist wouldn't be able to figure it out in advance.

No one is saying that women who don't wear these are at fault if they're raped. Wearing anti-rape underwear doesn't make a woman indestructible, but it gives an extra layer of protection for women that feel vulnerable. If a woman who feels very vulnerable to rape, be it due to previous experience of rape, or the situation she is in, or just an inexplicable phobia, gets to feel a little bit better or more confident by wearing them, then I don't see anything wrong with it.

I don't think they're trying to make any sort of sweeping statement with them, like that men don't get raped, or that it's a woman's responsibility to not get raped. It's just a pair of underwear that might make a woman feel safer.

Femme_Fatale

eviltwin wrote: »

Look back at your posts. "standing up for themselves will land them in more trouble" What kind of message does that send out?

Not intended by me. Obviously if someone is raped they're going to try and fight back, and obviously they're not doing anything wrong by doing this.
But pre-meditatively wearing a device that will injure the rapist - and I'm only talking about this specifically, even though the expression "standing up for themselves" seems more general (wrong choice of words by me) - would be seriously dangerous in some societies.

Pushtrak

xxmeabhxx wrote: »

Also, I do think they there should be less of a focus on what potential victims can do to not get raped as opposed to potential perpetrators not raping.

Could you elaborate on this? Focus by whom, on what? Are you talking about courts? Everyone? There is an advertising campaign "don't teach women not to get raped, teach men not to rape". Ignoring for a moment that rape happens both genders, what teaching can be done to people not to rape that is not currently being done?

It seems to me there are two aspects here. Rapists facing the full extent of the law, and people doing something to minimize their risk. The first part is a given. The second part is a lot harder. I mean, what exactly is minimizing risk in the context of this discussion? It should be an easy thing to see that trying to reduce risk would be a good thing, but one persons thinking of risk management is another persons not going far enough, or another person would say it is going too far.

My name is URL

Nice bit of subtle auld racism in the ad too.

http://i.imgur.com/kOk1Vy9.jpg

clairefontaine

MonkstownHoop wrote: »

if i found out a woman i was on a first date with wore anti rape underwear it'd be the last she'd see of me, has it come to the stage where every man is considered a potential rapist

That's like saying someone carrying a gun sees every person as a potential threat to personal safety or that airport security sees everyone as a potential terrorist.

My name is URL

clairefontaine wrote: »

That's like saying someone carrying a gun sees every person as a potential threat to personal safety or that airport security sees everyone as a potential terrorist.

So... pretty much spot on, then