Sheep Photo Thread

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Here's my tuppence, had same issue 2 weeks ago and I knew it wasn't worms as they were clean so I went in with second mineral drench of the year and are piling on weight and flesh , some lambs done 5/6 kgs in 12 days, only got weighing a handful this morning but seems to have made a difference

Sounds like cobalt, doesn't it, real compensatory growth there in 12 days

razor8

rangler1 wrote: »

Sounds like cobalt, doesn't it, real compensatory growth there in 12 days

Definitely, the wool was white looking a few weeks ago and I thought it may have been something else, will keep drenching every 2 weeks now and give ewes a bullets a month before ram go in

Green farmer

Just wondering which works out best , to drench vs throwing a mineral bucket into field and walking away ?

ganmo

whats the cost of each dose of the drench vs cost of a bucket

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Definitely, the wool was white looking a few weeks ago and I thought it may have been something else, will keep drenching every 2 weeks now and give ewes a bullets a month before ram go in

Be careful not to overdo it, there might be something else in the drench that can't be given every fourteen days, I think you can get a cheap and cheerful dose with just cobalt,

ganmo

or you can buy cobalt sulphate and mix it up yourself, cheaper than any dose you'll buy

rangler1

ganmo wrote: »

or you can buy cobalt sulphate and mix it up yourself, cheaper than any dose you'll buy

If you're sure that cobalt is the only deficiency
Doing a bit of research here myself. Cosecure reads as good as animax, about two thirds the price or even less
Finding it hard to get proper information on it

razor8

rangler1 wrote: »

Be careful not to overdo it, there might be something else in the drench that can't be given every fourteen days, I think you can get a cheap and cheerful dose with just cobalt,

Shouldn't do, it's a straight selenium/cobalt drench and cost 1c a lamb, can't get much cheaper than that!!

razor8

rangler1 wrote: »

If you're sure that cobalt is the only deficiency
Doing a bit of research here myself. Cosecure reads as good as animax, about two thirds the price or even less
Finding it hard to get proper information on it

Neilo on the ff across water has posted some interesting info on cosecure "trace element drench pre tupping" check it out

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Shouldn't do, it's a straight selenium/cobalt drench and cost 1c a lamb, can't get much cheaper than that!!

Its definitely cobalt so, that's actually the most effective way of getting cobalt into them only for the hassle.....not really suitable for a big flock
As far as I can read Cosecure only costs about 50c for a 25kg lamb

Green farmer

Drench is the cheapest way, the downside is finding time to drench them, if your not full time farming.

Username John

ganmo wrote: »

or you can buy cobalt sulphate and mix it up yourself, cheaper than any dose you'll buy

Where do you buy the sulphate?
My local agri places, only have the pre-mixed cobalt in gallons.

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Neilo on the ff across water has posted some interesting info on cosecure "trace element drench pre tupping" check it out

Neilo says there's only a few pennies between the cost of any of them, so I mustn't be getting proper information somewhere......got quoted 55c a bolus by osmonds, supposed to do a 25kg lamb for 4-6 mths.....there has to be cheaper boluses out there than animax

razor8

It's a lot of hassle for me, getting the time is impossible, just doing the heavier ones and keeping them close by

Green farmer

ganmo wrote: »

whats the cost of each dose of the drench vs cost of a bucket

Both are fairly cheap to be honest. When I've time I drench , if I cannt find time a bucket is cheap as well.

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

It's a lot of hassle for me, getting the time is impossible, just doing the heavier ones and keeping them close by

couldn't get any of the research on cosecure to make sense so I phoned bimeda( the firm that makes it) and Osmond don't sell it, so whatever they're selling it aint Cosecure
Bimeda say cosecure costs about €1.20/sheep
You couldn't be up to mineral salesmen, there as bad as insurance salesmen

razor8

rangler1 wrote: »

couldn't get any of the research on cosecure to make sense so I phoned bimeda( the firm that makes it) and Osmond don't sell it, so whatever they're selling it aint Cosecure
Bimeda say cosecure costs about €1.20/sheep
You couldn't be up to mineral salesmen, there as bad as insurance salesmen

So true, wouldn't like to be him next time you meet him!!

Arrow in the Knee

rangler1 wrote: »

there has to be cheaper boluses out there than animax

Cobalt 12 High Guard from Mayo Healthcare.

That's what I use.

I'm not sure if its any good.

AntrimGlens

Cran wrote: »

Some mule cross charollais picked out today, April born

Cran are they char x mule ewe lambs with the horns. Will u keep them? Never seen ewe lambs with the horns but have seen Suffolk mule wether lambs throwing horns but rarely on char x wether lambs.

Cran

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Cran are they char x mule ewe lambs with the horns. Will u keep them? Never seen ewe lambs with the horns but have seen Suffolk mule wether lambs throwing horns but rarely on char x wether lambs.

They're all mule x charollais, but I think the ones with horns are wethers. Normally get 50/60 wether lambs with great horns each year and odd ewe lamb. I don't keep any charollais cross ewe lambs, run Lleyn rams with some mules for replacements.

Green farmer

Meet a bolus salesman recently. I've no doubt the products are good. Not convinced though if their worth the high cost of €2 plus a head per 6 months, when compared to leaving a mineral bucket in field or how cheap you can buy a few litres of drench . You could forever be giving ewes vaccinations against everything under sun and still have problems. Have to draw line somewhere. Just wondering if you bought an extra ton of fertiliser instead of box of bolus, would the extra grass you'd grow earn more rewards vs what you'd gain from bolus ???

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

Meet a bolus salesman recently. I've no doubt the products are good. Not convinced though if their worth the high cost of €2 plus a head per 6 months, when compared to leaving a mineral bucket in field or how cheap you can buy a few litres of drench . You could forever be giving ewes vaccinations against everything under sun and still have problems. Have to draw line somewhere. Just wondering if you bought an extra ton of fertiliser instead of box of bolus, would the extra grass you'd grow earn more rewards vs what you'd gain from bolus ???

Usually have lots of grass here, and it's usually grazed at the right stage, so it has to be something else.
Teagasc tell us if we're doing 2 kg/week over the lifetime of the lamb, it's good in an intensive all sheep situation or 20 wks to put 40kg on a 5kg lamb, so any little slow up in thrive and you're in to sept/oct feeding meal, and that doesn't be long using money and extra work.
Have started using copper here and lambs have done well, but wont be judging it for two or three years.
High molyb means they can't absorb copper in the usual way so it has to go directly in to the stomach in a bolus

Cran

Green farmer wrote: »

Meet a bolus salesman recently. I've no doubt the products are good. Not convinced though if their worth the high cost of €2 plus a head per 6 months, when compared to leaving a mineral bucket in field or how cheap you can buy a few litres of drench . You could forever be giving ewes vaccinations against everything under sun and still have problems. Have to draw line somewhere. Just wondering if you bought an extra ton of fertiliser instead of box of bolus, would the extra grass you'd grow earn more rewards vs what you'd gain from bolus ???

Get some tested, should be cheap enough if vet does it in the practice and see what if anything they may be low in. Did it here few years ago as in high Molyb area and few swaybacks, low in everything. Good point made to me yesterday, should test every few years to make sure not gone too high...

btw fanevalley is the best I've found on price for those boluses....

eire23

Poor mans combi clamp, still needs to be perfected!

Lano Lynn

grand job eire....are you left handed?could it be lower? and have they noticed the hall carpet is missing?:D

eire23

Lano Lynn wrote: »

grand job eire....are you left handed?could it be lower? and have they noticed the hall carpet is missing?:D

the carpet will never be missed from under the couch:D No im right handed but my father is left handed, its easier having it to suit him for whenever he wants to use it but having said that i have no problem using my left hand for it.Wouldnt suit everyone though i suppose. Could definatly do with being a bit lower alright, but it makes crutching fierce easy and ya would do a lot of sheep in a day with it.

arctictree

Weighed my lambs today. Only one on 46kg. Thought I might get to go to the mart in mid September but will probably have to wait until the end of the month.

Also split my ewes today into two lambing flocks. And picked out a few culls.

Ard_MC

arctictree wrote: »

Weighed my lambs today. Only one on 46kg. Thought I might get to go to the mart in mid September but will probably have to wait until the end of the month.

Also split my ewes today into two lambing flocks. And picked out a few culls.

A nice pen of sheep!

Green farmer

Are they a few ewe lamb replacements ? Nice heads on them

arctictree

Green farmer wrote: »

Are they a few ewe lamb replacements ? Nice heads on them

Yes, will be keeping a few of the pure bred llyens.

There are a few nice llyen/cheviott crosses too. Might keep some of them.