Unbelievable

seipeal1

Went to Tommy Tiernan last Wednesday in Adelaide. 2 things stuck out immediately.
1. There are so many young Irish people over here nowadays.
2. They like their beer!!

My wife and I felt suitably older and could not believe the mix!!??

Came home to our kids who have the ol' Aussie accents at this stage and gave them lots of hugs!! Glad we are becoming proud Aussies!!!!

So is there something wrong with this?????

Hope not!!!!

coolbeans

seipeal1 wrote: »

Went to Tommy Tiernan last Wednesday in Adelaide. 2 things stuck out immediately.
1. There are so many young Irish people over here nowadays.
2. They like their beer!!

My wife and I felt suitably older and could not believe the mix!!??

Came home to our kids who have the ol' Aussie accents at this stage and gave them lots of hugs!! Glad we are becoming proud Aussies!!!!

So is there something wrong with this?????

Hope not!!!!

As long as a huge number of Irish people don't mind the prospect of their kids settling there for lack of opportunity at home then that's just fine. Sure, you'll likely see them what, once a year until death. Ideal. Can't understand why other ''developed'' countries don't do the same. Raising a family and then facing the prospect of rarely seeing them again makes perfect sense if you don't actually think about it.

catbear

Wrong with what exactly?

You moved to Australia, liked it and have settled, no problem.

You went to an irish comedian which drew a large expat audience, no problem.

You felt older because there were more people younger than you, no problem.

You were in a drinking environment that as a family person you've probably become to unaccustomed to, no problem.

You hugged your aussie reared kids, no problem.

So what's the problem?

seannash

seipeal1 wrote: »

Glad we are becoming proud Aussies!!!!!

I'm proud your becoming Aussies too so we can remove you from the Irish race

mandrake04

seipeal1 wrote: »

Went to Tommy Tiernan last Wednesday in Adelaide. 2 things stuck out immediately.
1. There are so many young Irish people over here nowadays.
2. They like their beer!!

My wife and I felt suitably older and could not believe the mix!!??

Came home to our kids who have the ol' Aussie accents at this stage and gave them lots of hugs!! Glad we are becoming proud Aussies!!!!

So is there something wrong with this?????

Hope not!!!!

1. Lot of young people probably on Holidays.
2. Drinking beer while on Holiday is not abnormal.

Owryan

Not wrong with it at all. Enjoy the experience being an "aussie" gives you lol

alastair

seannash wrote: »

I'm proud your becoming Aussies too so we can remove you from the Irish race

The Irish race?

seipeal1

Thanks for the posts. I suppose the overriding feeling was one of being out of touch. When we first came to Adelaide, there was no Appreciable Irish 'culture'.

Today, there is one that feels alien to us. Lots of people"passing through" and enjoying themselves to the utmost whilst doing it. Everything is temporary. Even though what we are living in is permanent?

Making sense??

seannash

alastair wrote: »

The Irish race?

okay so technically its wrong.do you understand what I was trying to convey?

seannash

seipeal1 wrote: »

Thanks for the posts. I suppose the overriding feeling was one of being out of touch. When we first came to Adelaide, there was no Appreciable Irish 'culture'.

Today, there is one that feels alien to us. Lots of people"passing through" and enjoying themselves to the utmost whilst doing it. Everything is temporary. Even though what we are living in is permanent?

Making sense??

so why did you feel it necessary to distance yourself from being Irish and call yourself proud to be Aussie.
do young Aussies not drink? my experience is that young Aussies are much more aggressive than any Irish when drinking.
Im sure you'll proudly draw on your Irish roots whenever it becomes socially beneficial.

seipeal1

seannash wrote: »

so why did you feel it necessary to distance yourself from being Irish and call yourself proud to be Aussie.
do young Aussies not drink? my experience is that young Aussies are much more aggressive than any Irish when drinking.
Im sure you'll proudly draw on your Irish roots whenever it becomes socially beneficial.

Hmmmm, good point. Don't have any real challenge to your reply. OK, this is how I feel.

Always extremely proud to be Irish.
At the same time, fairly happy that I made the right call years ago.
Starting to feel a bit "Aussie".
Maybe my perception of the young Irish over here is being governed by that.

Need to realign the lens through which I see the world, maybe. Thanks for your comments.l

catbear

seipeal1 wrote: »

Thanks for the posts. I suppose the overriding feeling was one of being out of touch. When we first came to Adelaide, there was no Appreciable Irish 'culture'.

Today, there is one that feels alien to us. Lots of people"passing through" and enjoying themselves to the utmost whilst doing it. Everything is temporary. Even though what we are living in is permanent?

Making sense??

I understand you now. For what's it's worth I felt out of place living in Ireland during the septic tiger even though I'd spent the previous three decades living there.

alastair

seannash wrote: »

okay so technically its wrong.do you understand what I was trying to convey?

Bitterness that someone is able to integrate into another country and feel an affinity for that new home, and a petulant desire to disown them as a consequence? Sure.

catbear

seannash wrote: »

I'm proud your becoming Aussies too so we can remove you from the Irish race

If not being considered Irish means being totally dissociated from you then I'll claim that.

Batgurl

Dude, that's not becoming Aussie...that's becoming OLD!

Was at TT in Sydney and yea there were a few drunk Irish hecklers but head to a Tuesday night tranny bingo anywhere in the city and you'll find some Aussie twat giving lip.

I don't think what you felt was an affinity to any one culture, it was a relief that your not a young idiot!

Zambia

seannash wrote: »

I'm proud your becoming Aussies too so we can remove you from the Irish race

Mod : Hey play nice

I think Batgurl has hit the nail on the head.

Fat Nav

My younger brother is living and working in Adelaide for the last two years and was at tommy tiernan the other night.
He loves the Aussie lifestyle but he is definitely Irish at heart.
He is quite happy to make his home in Oz and eventually get citizenship but he will always be Irish in his heart and would not want to lose his Irish identity.

The Aussie

Batgurl wrote: »

I don't think what you felt was an affinity to any one culture, it was a relief that your not a young idiot!

Nailed.....

seannash

alastair wrote: »

Bitterness that someone is able to integrate into another country and feel an affinity for that new home, and a petulant desire to disown them as a consequence? Sure.

hmm I guess my 8 years in new York and 2 in Australia didn't include any integration into the culture of those two countries.
he basically was saying I'm so glad my family isn't growing up Irish.
I'm all for moving abroad and starting a new life but the op sounded like he was embarrassed of his roots.

mandrake04

seannash wrote: »

I'm all for moving abroad and starting a new life but the op sounded like he was embarrassed of his roots.

Maybe he is just embarrassed of people like you :rolleyes:

danotroy

I am not the proudest to be Irish when Australians talk about the antics of some of the Irish here in Australia. I am not suggesting the ozzies are angels but we are here in their country whether it be as temporary guests or fellow citizens and our behaviour should reflect this.

seannash

mandrake04 wrote: »

Maybe he is just embarrassed of people like you :rolleyes:

oooh good one. please tell me exactly what sort of person I am

swazzie

I also went to see Tommy Tiernan last week (in Brisbane though) and while I also struck by the amount of Irish that now live here ( compared to when I moved here 8 yrs ago ) I had a different view of the night and fellow Irish .
Sure there was lots of beer but I sat there being reminded that Irish people love the Craic and laughing at themselves .
Aussie have a sense if humour but it's different and while I'm settled here now and appreciate the opportunities afforded to me and my family, I do feel a little sad that my little Aussie born son won't get the chance to grow up in Ireland .

Xavi6

The mistake here was going to see Tommy Tiernan :pac:

Zambia

True craic is a pure joy.

s20101938

Xavi6 wrote: »

The mistake here was going to see Tommy Tiernan :pac:

Yeah but you're not really Irish anymore are you, so your opinion is irrelevant.

P.S. Perth is a load of sh_ite.

Zambia

Attack the post not the poster

sin_city

Was it any good of a show?

Batgurl

Ironically enough, it took the piss out of all the drunken Irish yobbo's over here..."one leaving cert between three of them"!

I enjoyed it. It's a show he's not really going to get to use outside of Australia so was good to see it.

cloudatlas

I think people have misinterpreted the O.P. as disowning his Irishness. I read it as "I'm happy I'm not here temporarily and that I feel a sense of belonging". Isn't that what all immigrants are looking for? After reading a thread about homesickness in the 'Personal Issues' forum I'm happy for the O.P., settling anywhere can be difficult and the O.P. is lucky to be at peace with it. They'll learn so much about the culture from their kids as well.

catbear

cloudatlas wrote: »

I They'll learn so much about the culture from their kids as well.

Australia has a culture?

Zambia

catbear wrote: »

Australia has a culture?

Fair bit of culture today,

catbear

Zambia wrote: »

Fair bit of culture today,

Yes you're right, i overlooked the whole Bogan thing.

Zambia

catbear wrote: »

Yes you're right, i overlooked the whole Bogan thing.

Seriously are you calling the Melbourne cup a bogan event?

catbear

[IMG][/img]

Zambia

catbear wrote: »

[IMG][/img]

That's it one article from 2009.

So what's your opinion of the festival. Have you been ? Have your mates been?

Rick Rod

seipeal1 wrote: »

Thanks for the posts. I suppose the overriding feeling was one of being out of touch. When we first came to Adelaide, there was no Appreciable Irish 'culture'.

Today, there is one that feels alien to us. Lots of people"passing through" and enjoying themselves to the utmost whilst doing it. Everything is temporary. Even though what we are living in is permanent?

Making sense??

No not really. Drunk much?

The Aussie

catbear wrote: »

Yes you're right, i overlooked the whole Bogan thing.

The Melbourne Cup is like a Friady and Saturday night on O'Connell St, full of drunken wannabes

With out the punch ups every 50m :rolleyes:

first doyle

danotroy wrote: »

I am not the proudest to be Irish when Australians talk about the antics of some of the Irish here in Australia. I am not suggesting the ozzies are angels but we are here in their country whether it be as temporary guests or fellow citizens and our behaviour should reflect this.

What are you on about? A lot of the young folk who head over to Oz work hard to get there and spend a lot of their savings there aswel. It's not as though they're not contributing to the economy.

Say what you like about the Irish but they're different from your average migrant worker who sends all his money back home.

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

Zambia

first doyle wrote: »

What are you on about? A lot of the young folk who head over to Oz work hard to get there and spend a lot of their savings there aswel. It's not as though they're not contributing to the economy.

Say what you like about the Irish but they're different from your average migrant worker who sends all his money back home.

This is correct most of us drink it all here.

The Aussie

first doyle wrote: »

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

:pac:......

How can you be Racist against your own Race.

Not like he is abducting Blonde Haired Roma Children now is he???

sparksfly

first doyle wrote: »

What are you on about? A lot of the young folk who head over to Oz work hard to get there and spend a lot of their savings there aswel. It's not as though they're not contributing to the economy.

Say what you like about the Irish but they're different from your average migrant worker who sends all his money back home.

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

Not being proud of the minority of Irish that act the yobbo is not being typically racist. Saying that the Aussies have a typically racist attitude is however.
How do you know what the "average migrant worker" does with his/her money and what business is it to anyone?

Xavi6

first doyle wrote: »

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

mandrake04

first doyle wrote: »

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

I love when people fall into that trap, it's as if we Irish are lily white when it comes to the old racism.

The Irish are very racist, especially when it comes to travellers (I have no love of travellers myself but everyone knows what I'm talking about so it serves my purpose). The old story of Prams on buses and all that guff it's not as if it doesn't exist.

Even to such TV shows like the Sons of Anarchy as of late, even though it's fiction makes out to some how Irish is racist. Hate the blacks...maybe only fiction but as the old saying goes mud sticks.

No doubt plenty will disagree, but hey it's out there so no point in denying it.

AnonoBoy

To be honest I find the first post and this whole thread wholly believable.

danotroy

first doyle wrote: »

What are you on about? A lot of the young folk who head over to Oz work hard to get there and spend a lot of their savings there aswel. It's not as though they're not contributing to the economy.

Say what you like about the Irish but they're different from your average migrant worker who sends all his money back home.

OP you're attitude is becoming in line with the Aussie one alright...a typical racist attitude.

Your talking in sweeping generalisations. I said the antics of some of the Irish people here. I'm not talking about every single Irish person. However I do wish every single Irish person here would behave in a manner that reflects well on our society.

The Irish are different how? Because we are great craic and have the banter? Spare me please.

The average migrant sends all his money home? are you basing this on fact?

A quick look around this forum will show currency fair threads and even one a few days back asking how to buy a property in Ireland while in Australia. Are those Irish posters less Irish because they send their money home?

TrueDub

Folks, please keep it civil and remember the rule of attack the post, not the poster.

Thanks

cloudatlas

catbear wrote: »

Australia has a culture?

Yes.

catbear

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yes.

I suppose post apocalyptic counts.

ifeelill

The Aussie wrote: »

:pac:......

How can you be Racist against your own Race.

Like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmE2-FW_WzU

The Aussie

ifeelill wrote: »

Like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmE2-FW_WzU

Can't watch the pootube there mate, my state of the art "Broardband" won't allow it.....