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Feckin' *asswords

  • 01-11-2013 3:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    Does anyone else find it really hard to keep track of passwords nowadays?
    You're encouraged not to use the same password too because of the threat of hacking. I know there is software you can get that helps you store multiple passwords as one, but then if you want to login away from your standard computer it becomes a pain. Although I don't know a great deal about this software so maybe I'm mistaken here?

    Also now some companies won't allow to use a previously used password.
    Some places want symbols, numbers or a capitol letter included too. They're not exactly the easiest pieces of information to remember in your head.
    The most popular password on the internet was apparently, "password". :D You can't even include the word password with a lot of sites anymore ;)

    I really hope in the next few years passwords become a thing of the past and an alternative becomes the standard for logging in such as iris recognition.
    Or am I unaware of a solution to this personal nuisance already in existence?
    How do boardsies cope with remembering dozens of passwords and would people be weary of using the same password on multiple accounts?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭davo2001


    1st world problems!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,903 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    if you type your password in a post boards make it into stars

    ********


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Does anyone else find it really hard to keep track of passwords nowadays?
    You're encouraged not to use the same password too because of the threat of hacking. I know there is software you can get that helps you store multiple passwords as one, but then if you want to login away from your standard computer it becomes a pain. Although I don't know a great deal about this software so maybe I'm mistaken here?

    Put said software on a USB key. Keep USB key with you. Voila! I made one for my dad and he loves it. Protip #4 Don't lose the USB key and keep a spare one.

    Password policies are bullsh*t though and in some cases make pre-computing even easier.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 175 ✭✭sonny jim bob jones


    I just use the username with 500@XYZ at the end. No one will ever guess that. Plus I don't tell any one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 175 ✭✭sonny jim bob jones


    davo2001 wrote: »
    1st world problems!

    Why would someone who presumably lives in the first world have any other sort of problem?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,506 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    lastpass.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    davo2001 wrote: »
    1st world problems!

    Of course it is and I'm very lucky to have this issue as a nuisance for me.
    But if everyone was just suddenly content with how everything is right now in the first world we'd be stuck here for ever.
    Imagine being content with candle lit lighting at the time. Granted it would be romantic but I likes my lightbulbs :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 175 ✭✭sonny jim bob jones


    Alun wrote: »
    lastpass.com

    I used this for a while. It was great...until I forgot the password. Then I was screwed.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Alun wrote: »
    lastpass.com
    Great service. $12 a year, all passwords completely safe (encrypted even before they're uploaded to Lastpass servers). Been using it for a while now. Also allows for use of 2 factor authentication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    An easy way to create a complicated password is to use a short sentence with capitals.

    For instance
    ILiveInDublin12!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭ikeano29


    I use lastpass and can log in from any laptop from the browser.

    Theres also settings on it where if you go abroad, before you go you can click on settings that will allow you to log in from country you are going to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    if you type your password in a post boards make it into stars

    littlepenis
    But if someone quotes it it can be seen.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In work they said my password must have eight characters.

    So I picked snow white and the seven dwarfs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    biko wrote: »
    An easy way to create a complicated password is to use a short sentence with capitals.

    For instance
    ILiveInDublin12!

    As idolised by XKCD:

    http://xkcd.com/936/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    if you type your password in a post boards make it into stars

    ********
    What if my password is " ******** " ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    I use the same password for everything. Its 7 characters, if I need 8 I just add 1 to the end.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Passwords are fine in general, unless there is some crazy need to have alternating caps, numbers and special characters in'em.

    It's very hard if they have to be changed regularly. It can be quite exhaustive remembering them in such circumstances.

    Feck, I don't even know my home phone number and that hasn't changed in 5 years!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 175 ✭✭sonny jim bob jones


    DidYouSeeLaBamba


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Pa55word
    pa55word
    passw0rd


    Just mix em up a bit. Put sometyhing like !1 at the end of a password to meke it harder to break. Or add something like B! at the end of the boards password. Then say A! at the end of an amazon password. basically the first letter of the company and a !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    if you type your password in a post boards make it into stars

    ********

    ***********

    Edit: Wow! It works!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    watch this, and just replace "area code" with "password"



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    if you type your password in a post boards make it into stars

    ********

    Really!! wow that's so cool!! every site should do that!! :D

    Hang on, let me see if it works..

    123456


    Hmm.... what am I doing wrong? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    It's not that hard, just write it down on a piece of paper. Use the password a few times, then eat and/or set fire to the piece of paper. I remember mine pretty quickly, and they're always being reset in work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 175 ✭✭sonny jim bob jones


    Really!! wow that's so cool!! every site should do that!! :D

    Hang on, let me see if it works..

    123456


    Hmm.... what am I doing wrong? :confused:

    Dunno, but you will probably be banned for the post I (sorry, YOU) just made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    just create your own algorithm in your head for passwords.

    Say for example you relate your pass to a relevant object near you.

    it is in this case a house 23 main street, dublin 9 is my object

    this password requires a special char and a capital letter

    I would create the password "£Atu9

    with my algorithym being, symbols over the numbers in the address on the keyboard and the second letter in each word and a number in the end for good measure.

    lets see a hacker break that in a hurry


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    mauzo! wrote: »
    I use the same password for everything. Its 7 characters, if I need 8 I just add 1 to the end.

    Not a good idea. Sites get hacked all the time. Boards.ie was hacked once that they know of.

    Once they get your password and email for one site they can automatically try them on a bunch of other sites, email accounts, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Does anyone else find it really hard to keep track of passwords nowadays?
    You're encouraged not to use the same password too because of the threat of hacking. I know there is software you can get that helps you store multiple passwords as one, but then if you want to login away from your standard computer it becomes a pain. Although I don't know a great deal about this software so maybe I'm mistaken here?

    Also now some companies won't allow to use a previously used password.
    Some places want symbols, numbers or a capitol letter included too. They're not exactly the easiest pieces of information to remember in your head.
    The most popular password on the internet was apparently, "password". :D You can't even include the word password with a lot of sites anymore ;)

    I really hope in the next few years passwords become a thing of the past and an alternative becomes the standard for logging in such as iris recognition.
    Or am I unaware of a solution to this personal nuisance already in existence?
    How do boardsies cope with remembering dozens of passwords and would people be weary of using the same password on multiple accounts?

    1Password, fantastic piece of software. Integrates with devices and browsers and is easy to use. Has some great features, worth at least double what it costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I use a different password for every site, but I keep them all written down in a notebook beside my desk. I couldn't be arsed trying to remember them all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    Really!! wow that's so cool!! every site should do that!! :D

    Hang on, let me see if it works..

    123456


    Hmm.... what am I doing wrong? :confused:

    Ahh for f*ck sake, not again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Irlandczyk


    Alun wrote: »
    lastpass.com

    'Nuff said, really. I swear by this service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    you call that a password,

    now this is a password....


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNrWgjh9tnU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    i never try to remember them all,
    I just tick box every time "have you forgotten your password" then enter email address, just get a new password every time, Lazy i know.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    just create your own algorithm in your head for passwords.

    Say for example you relate your pass to a relevant object near you.

    it is in this case a house 23 main street, dublin 9 is my object

    this password requires a special char and a capital letter

    I would create the password "£Atu9

    with my algorithym being, symbols over the numbers in the address on the keyboard and the second letter in each word and a number in the end for good measure.

    lets see a hacker break that in a hurry
    It would take a desktop computer around 3 hours to crack that password.

    For passwords, the longer the better.

    "thefunnycrispshopbag!" is way more secure than ""£Atu9"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    make every password the word "incorrect"

    then when you get it wrong it says "your password is incorrect"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭alb


    If you can remember a password it's probably a bad password.

    If you're remembering more than one, you're doing it wrong anyway. keepassx or lastpass or some password management solution is the only way to do it right.

    Good password management is like making backups though - most people don't seem to care or bother until it's too late.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Well, it depends how sophisticated your brute force methods are, what dictionaries and charsets they are loaded with. I doubt somebody would try to brute force an account of mine for three hours.

    if it was only a simple A-Z a-a 0-9 dictionary it wouldnt work, whereas yours would be broken.

    But I do agree on the length side of things, I was only giving an example on how to make a secure pass.

    I would say in this instance though, that 3 hours worth of unusual activity trying to access an account would come to the attention of most well managed online services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    syklops wrote: »
    As idolised by XKCD:

    http://xkcd.com/936/
    -
    Until dumbass programmers suggest your password must be between 8-13 characters.

    I once had a financial site that would not let me use any password shorter than 5 characters or longer than 8, would not allow special characters or numerals.

    I was like "are you fucking kidding me?" - secure as a wet paper bag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    bum, backside, bottom, hole, buns, arse, buttocks


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