When Will WWIII Happen?

catallus

Is it coming sooner or later?

Do you think there will never be another massive war like WWII?

Do you think it will happen in your lifetime?

I know it's impossible to give a proper answer, just looking for opinions.

I think it might happen in the next thirty years, with the USA/K/N taking on a resurgent Russia and China, maybe over African resources.

Rayne Wooney

When the nukes start flying

cantdecide

Sooner the better. The yoof of today need to be less YOLO and more NATO if yis ask me

Gran Hermano

Tuesday.

Poll needs more options.

D1stant

After the next budget. Defny

Fox_In_Socks

cantdecide wrote: »

Sooner the better. The yoof of today need to be less YOLO and more NATO if yis ask me

Exactly, lets just get it over with.

I want to be Mad Max Fox.

Stojkovic

Its already happened.
It just wasnt called WWIII.

Something to do with copyright.

Mesut Ozil

Doubt it will ever happen. Puny humans are too frightened of the nuclear stuff.

masti123

Sounds like WWIII tonight

wretcheddomain

The second Israel settles all of its territory with Jews and expels all Palestinians. This will herald an apocalypse and the end of the game. Then God will select 'New Game' and start the whole process again. Our job is to find cheats.

Stained Class

If my missus doesn't make me a cuppa shortly.

It could be very soon...........

Sunglasses Ron

Stojkovic wrote: »

Its already happened.
It just wasnt called WWIII.

Something to do with copyright.

Indeed. The post 9/11 wars pretty much were it. It is just that with military technology these days the era of every man aged between 15 and 40 having a part to play in it is long gone.

Auldloon

It's already happened but in Africa so the west doesn't care.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

deadliest war in modern African history, it has directly involved nine African nations, as well as about 20 armed groups. By 2008, the war and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people, mostly from disease and starvation,[7] making the Second Congo War the deadliest conflict worldwide since World War II.[8] Millions more were displaced from their homes or sought asylum in neighbouring countries.[9]

B.A._Baracus

Seeing as how it's Halloween Night, thread is about World War 3 and nuclear weapons.... I give you this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCbTvoNrAg

For anyone that has seen Threads I think you will back me up by saying it's one of the most scariest things ever made.

Maximus Alexander

Auldloon wrote: »

It's already happened but in Africa so the west doesn't care.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

How would that be a World War? Is that sorta like the World Series in baseball?

cabledude

I think the only event that could trigger WW3 would be a Nuclear first strike. I don't think Kim Yung Un is even that mental. Or the Iranians for that matter.

Even if they were to lose the plot, there would be retaliation against them, but they would probably be on their own - no one would support them after a Nuclear first strike.

cabledude

Auldloon wrote: »

It's already happened but in Africa so the west doesn't care.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

deadliest war in modern African history, it has directly involved nine African nations, as well as about 20 armed groups. By 2008, the war and its aftermath had killed 5.4 million people, mostly from disease and starvation,[7] making the Second Congo War the deadliest conflict worldwide since World War II.[8] Millions more were displaced from their homes or sought asylum in neighbouring countries.[9]

Not a WORLD WAR though, is it?

catallus

cabledude wrote: »

I think the only event that could trigger WW3 would be a Nuclear first strike. I don't think Kim Yung Un is even that mental. Or the Iranians for that matter.

Even if they were to lose the plot, there would be retaliation against them, but they would probably be on their own - no one would support them after a Nuclear first strike.

Do you think it could be triggered by political reasons? Or a chemical or technological attack?

Red Nissan

Your question should be when will WWWV begin.

WWIII has already been fought, it brought down the Soviet Union and catapulted the US into a super, super power.

WWWIV is still going on with the US involved in armed conflict in almost every conflict region worldwide, their goal is a Christian World paying taxes to the US only. The US are on the brink of winning it.

Simultaneously and economic war has been ravaging the world that depends on the dollar and being manipulated by a few men in a plush NY office, some people are calling this WWWV.

WWWVI is probably the correct question. And this will be the armed and economic uprising against the US supreme domination with an Alliance of Islam and European Christians, Africa and China to be joined later by Russia and Japan as the US promotes US made good as superior and stops all trade from China and Japan.

Auldloon

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

How would that be a World War? Is that sorta like the World Series in baseball?

No it's not got anything to do with baseball. The amount of countries involved and the death toll makes it huge. Fair enough they were all African.

Maximus Alexander

Auldloon wrote: »

No it's not got anything to do with baseball. The amount of countries involved and the death toll makes it huge. Fair enough they were all African.

That's a huge war then, not a world war.

catallus

I'm talking about a mad mega-death sprawl of man-on-man shooting each other to bits, huge disruption to many nations and economies worldwide, crazy embargoes, newspapers and media going nuts and some mad hero/villain casting wave after wave after wave after wave of men into hopeless battle to gain a few metres of ground kinda war.

Peregrine

Auldloon wrote: »

The amount of countries involved and the death toll makes it huge. Fair enough they were all African.

So it wasn't a world war.

"World war
noun

A war involving many large nations in all different parts of the world."

Witcher

catallus wrote: »

I'm talking about a mad mega-death sprawl of man-on-man shooting each other to bits, huge disruption to many nations and economies worldwide, crazy embargoes, newspapers and media going nuts and some mad hero/villain casting wave after wave after wave after wave of men into hopeless battle to gain a few metres of ground kinda war.

You mean a total war?

The concept is somewhat outdated, nuclear weapons have pretty much assured it's decline. There's really no non-nuclear nation that could stand toe to toe with the US in a conventional war and push it towards totality. So you're down to one of the superpowers and nuclear weapons would probably be deployed before the conflict ever became total.

Hard to imagine the US/China/Russia etc. having balls out war just with conventional weapons.

MomijiHime

World War I didn't happen until 1914, the next one could be another thousand years away.

cabledude

catallus wrote: »

Do you think it could be triggered by political reasons? Or a chemical or technological attack?

Politics or geopolitics would obviously be a factor. And the threat of technological attacks should not be discounted. But, these would be solo runs by whatever country was involved. I doubt any country launching an NBC attack would get any support. From anywhere.

Red Nissan

catallus wrote: »

I'm talking about a mad mega-death sprawl of man-on-man shooting each other to bits, huge disruption to many nations and economies worldwide, crazy embargoes, newspapers and media going nuts and some mad hero/villain casting wave after wave after wave after wave of men into hopeless battle to gain a few metres of ground kinda war.

War does not disrupt nations or countries, war feeds them.

Lesson one: Disrupt the nation first, cripple it's economy, trigger a depression, then invade. America will loose her entire nuclear arsenal, Ireland will disappear in the first strike, in a terrible twist of irony, Northern Ireland will prevail as the nuclear detonation in the south will open an ancient tectonic fault line and she will drift sufficiently northwards to be spared the geo stationary intercontinental guidance for the missiles and they will fall where Derry and Belfast was a few hours previously.

intellectual dosser

I'm afraid I don't have a link or reference, but I remember reading an article saying the next global conflict is probably going to be about water (As opposed to oil or some lad getting shot in a Sarajevo alley).

Lets hope the Chinese are using taptips.ie

Also, the next World War will only last a few weeks with the technology available today. It's interesting to think about the part Cyber technology might play.

Stojkovic

MomijiHime wrote: »

World War I didn't happen until 1914, the next one could be another thousand years away.

The Seven Years War was the first 'global' war. Napoleonic Wars too maybe.

Maximus Alexander

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'm afraid I don't have a link or reference, but I remember reading an article saying the next global conflict is probably going to be about water (As opposed to oil or some lad getting shot in a Sarajevo alley).

Lets hope the Chinese are using taptips.ie

Also, the next World War will only last a few weeks with the technology available today. It's interesting to think about the part Cyber technology might play.

Would it not be cheaper to just build a few desalination plants than to fund a global conflict though?

cabledude

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'm afraid I don't have a link or reference, but I remember reading an article saying the next global conflict is probably going to be about water (As opposed to oil or some lad getting shot in a Sarajevo alley).

Lets hope the Chinese are using taptips.ie

Also, the next World War will only last a few weeks with the technology available today. It's interesting to think about the part Cyber technology might play.

How could a resource that covers 70% of the surface of the planet lead to a World War?

Red Nissan

intellectual dosser wrote: »

but I remember reading an article saying the next global conflict is probably going to be about water .

Nope, it won't. Think about it for a second, the world gets hot enough to dry up the weather?

WE ARE ALL DEAD if that happens.

MomijiHime

Stojkovic wrote: »

The Seven Years War was the first 'global' war. Napoleonic Wars too maybe.

Oh cool, I didn't know that yet. But it's only a few hundred year difference from wwI, same idea as what I was saying earlier on.

cerastes

Red Nissan wrote: »

Your question should be when will WWWV begin.

WWWIV is still going on with the US involved in armed conflict in almost every conflict region worldwide, their goal is a Christian World paying taxes to the US only. The US are on the brink of winning it.

Simultaneously and economic war has been ravaging the world that depends on the dollar and being manipulated by a few men in a plush NY office, some people are calling this WWWV.

WWWVI is probably the correct question. And this will be the armed and economic uprising against the US supreme domination with an Alliance of Islam and European Christians, Africa and China to be joined later by Russia and Japan as the US promotes US made good as superior and stops all trade from China and Japan.

What makes you think that?

cabledude wrote: »

How could a resource that covers 70% of the surface of the planet lead to a World War?

You cant water crops with salt water or drink it, presumably?
Access to water, countries can only get at water that they have access to, no good if 70% of the planet is covered in clean fresh water if you cant get at it

cabledude

cerastes wrote: »

What makes you think that?



You cant water crops with salt water or drink it, presumably?
Access to water, countries can only get at water that they have access to, no good if 70% of the planet is covered in clean fresh water if you cant get at it

No, but salt water can be treated to make it useable for crops.

Fratton Fred

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I'm afraid I don't have a link or reference, but I remember reading an article saying the next global conflict is probably going to be about water (As opposed to oil or some lad getting shot in a Sarajevo alley)..

The largest aquifer (underground lake for want of a better description) in the world is mainly under Argentina.

One of the possible reasons why they have become so obsessed with the Falklands recently, is that if there is a global war over water, they don't want a NATO country having a military base 300 miles from their front door.

Food for thought.

Red Nissan

cerastes wrote: »

What makes you think that?

They have systematically taken out, isolated or made dependent all of Europe, most of Arabia, Asia and Russia. There is little of consequence left.

Jimoslimos

cabledude wrote: »

No, but salt water can be treated to make it useable for crops.

Desalination is an extremely expensive process.

cerastes

cabledude wrote: »

No, but salt water can be treated to make it useable for crops.

And thats for free?
Desalination plants cost money to run, burning oil to make water useable for agriculture, industry or human consumption detracts from a nations ability to service their other needs.
Unless they can easily or cost effectively beat or hold off a potential adversary/enemy from access or use of a natural water supply using military strength they already have then it saves money.

cerastes

Red Nissan wrote: »

They have systematically taken out, isolated or made dependent all of Europe, most of Arabia, Asia and Russia. There is little of consequence left.

I dont agree, you make it sound like they hold sway over Russia/China, they are of consequence,
And the support you suggest they have could change very easily if its deemed it has overstepped some unacceptable level, or when its realised even by those in power that supporting extreme acts to self preserve one nations access to resources can no longer be tolerated.

theblaqueguy

I honestly don't know when it will happen but like most people I think it will involve some kind of nuclear war. It depends if Iran is actually building a weapon that will destroy Israel and that would make the west intervene so the US would possibly launch a nuke back at them
or will north korea finally carry out one of its long list of threats and attack the south again forcing the western world to intervene

or could china possibly be involved in the next world war
I think a world war that starts online through some mass hacking of key resources such as power or water supplies is also possible
One question I would have for everyone is
How would ireland be affected by it if a world war was to happen in the next 10 years? Obviously if it was a nuclear war and the UK was targeted we would be rather fvcked in my opinion but there is some many different scenarios possible its hard to predict how Ireland would be affected

Red Nissan

cerastes wrote: »

one nations access to resources can no longer be tolerated.

You've just declared World War Six. This will happen, China and Russia are weak have ageing and unreliable response capabilities.

BOOOM American preemptive strike knocks them out effectively and especially China which is in a very vulnerable state having moved vast populations to urban centers in her industrial expansion and is now capable of loosing far more people than had ever been anticipated in the cold war War Game scenario.

China though is rearming, she is aware of the danger, even if she is rather caught with her pants down at the moment.

catallus

Back before the USSR fell, a lot of people said to me that our airports here, shannon etc. would be primary targets for nukes by the USSR, which made sense at the time.

Witcher

catallus wrote: »

Back before the USSR fell, a lot of people said to me that our airports here, shannon etc. would be primary targets for nukes by the USSR, which made sense at the time.

You wouldn't waste a nuclear warhead on an airport, you could destroy the runway with a conventional missile.

catallus

Wouldn't total annihilation of the airport and it's environs be a better bet?

cerastes

theblaqueguy wrote: »

I honestly don't know when it will happen but like most people I think it will involve some kind of nuclear war. It depends if Iran is actually building a weapon that will destroy Israel and that would make the west intervene so the US would possibly launch a nuke back at them
or will north korea finally carry out one of its long list of threats and attack the south again forcing the western world to intervene

or could china possibly be involved in the next world war
I think a world war that starts online through some mass hacking of key resources such as power or water supplies is also possible
One question I would have for everyone is
How would ireland be affected by it if a world war was to happen in the next 10 years? Obviously if it was a nuclear war and the UK was targeted we would be rather fvcked in my opinion but there is some many different scenarios possible its hard to predict how Ireland would be affected

I doubt N Korea or even less likely Iran will attack anyone, they know there would be an unsurvivable response.
Nation on Nation, nothing any sooner than 15-20 years, if China is still on the rise and unless the US stalls its own economic decline, then Chinas military may have advanced sufficiently to take Taiwan without fear of US intervention, prior to that possibly some kind of hacking by proxy group or states or worse terrorist organisations of countries utilities.

Or someone could launch a nuke in error, maybe not likely but not impossible and its nearly happened before.

Red Nissan

theblaqueguy wrote: »

How would ireland be affected by it if a world war was to happen in the next 10 years?

Ireland was previously targeted by both the USA and USSR, PRC is still unknown but presumably they too targeted us, but it's unlikely.

Take my word for it, Ireland disappears in the first twenty five minutes. What's uncertain is what missiles were taken out in disarmament. The USA has said she is no longer actively targeting Ireland, it was not a nice experience becoming a teenager in 1966 in Ireland and knowing that both your friends in the US and enemies in Russia had nukes targeting us, three for my own home town by estimates made at the time.

cabledude

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Desalination is an extremely expensive process.

In the context of preventing a World War, peanuts.

cerastes

Blay wrote: »

You wouldn't waste a nuclear warhead on an airport, you could destroy the runway with a conventional missile.

Neutron bomb, dont even need to destroy the runway

Red Nissan

catallus wrote: »

Back before the USSR fell, a lot of people said to me that our airports here, shannon etc. would be primary targets for nukes by the USSR, which made sense at the time.

Not necessarily, given their 25 mile incineration range and fifty mile total death range, Limerick, Cork, Dublin, Belfast and their airports, all gone.

Rayne Wooney

There's always a chance of an organisation doing another 9/11 on them but larger scale, which would probably lead to the US nuking whatever country they think the organisation is in.