M&S Paper bags

darkpagandeath

Was in M&S bought some bit's came to pay asked your woman at the till for a paper bag. She say's "Were not allowed to give paper bags out with food shopping" then tried to sell me a plastic one for 22c.

Really... I thought paper bags were used to stop people buying plastic ones.

Jester252

Its just another way for them to try and make money. They need every cent these days

Galadriel

Jester252 wrote: »

Its just another way for them to try and make money. They need every cent these days

I thought that money goes straight to the government as a tax?

SEPT 23 1989

They use paper bags for food in America

I seen it on a film once

darkpagandeath

Could it be that there not just paper bags these are M&S beaver skin paper bags made by blind monks in Tibet ?

Mint Aero

What you shopping in M&S for?!

humbert

The aim is to encourage people to reuse their bags. Grumpiness over the cost of a bag, where cheapness and laziness meet.

darkpagandeath

Mint Aero wrote: »

What you shopping in M&S for?!

Should i shop in Tesco ?

darkpagandeath

Galadriel wrote: »

I thought that money goes straight to the government as a tax?

you mean the 5c ?

Mint Aero

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Should i shop in Tesco ?

or aldi, dunnes, lidl, supervalu...but M&S? For godsake

darkpagandeath

Mint Aero wrote: »

or aldi, dunnes, lidl, supervalu...but M&S? For godsake

Whats wrong with it then ?

Jester252

Galadriel wrote: »

I thought that money goes straight to the government as a tax?

M&S is the government. Stop being a sheep and wake up. M&S was set up in order for the English lizards to take over Ireland. Its all in the bible if you look closely.

Mint Aero

d'ya loooove wasting moola or something

Galadriel

darkpagandeath wrote: »

you mean the 5c ?

Last I looked the levy was 22c.

marcbrophy

You should not be given paper bags for grocery by any checkout staff. They are told that these are for drapery items only.
If your food rips the bag and your stuff falls to the floor, who do you think gets the blame??

darkpagandeath

Galadriel wrote: »

Last I looked the levy was 22c.

yes but they still have to charge you for the bag as well or do you think there made for free ?

Galadriel

darkpagandeath wrote: »

yes but they still have to charge you for the bag as well or do you think there made for free ?

I thought they only charged you 22c (for a standard plastic bag not the long life ones) as they where free before the levy was introduced.

EyeSight

I bought a pack of chicken fillets there before and they refused to give me a paper bag because "they break for some people and they don't want me to complain"....

MadsL

Bag for life - problem solved. You knew you were going shopping, bring a bag.

Fratton Fred

Jester252 wrote: »

M&S is the government. Stop being a sheep and wake up. M&S was set up in order for the English lizards to take over Ireland. Its all in the bible if you look closely.

Michael Marks was Jewish, so it is obviously part of the greater Zion conspiracy.

darkpagandeath

Galadriel wrote: »

I thought they only charged you 22c (for a standard plastic bag not the long life ones) as they where free before the levy was introduced.

Current Levy

The current levy of 22 cent was introduced on 1 July, 2007. It was increased as the bags per capita had increased to 31 during 2006. The aim of the increase is to reduce the plastic bag per capita usage to 21 or lower.

Galadriel

MadsL wrote: »

Bag for life - problem solved.

Cept when you keep forgetting them and end up with a cupboard stacked floor to ceiling with the bloody things :pac:

darkpagandeath

Galadriel wrote: »

Cept when you keep forgetting them and end up with a cupboard stacked floor to ceiling with the bloody things :pac:

I have one of them

Galadriel

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Current Levy

The current levy of 22 cent was introduced on 1 July, 2007. It was increased as the bags per capita had increased to 31 during 2006. The aim of the increase is to reduce the plastic bag per capita usage to 21 or lower.

Yes? but do M&S et al charge extra on top of the levy? I thought they didn't although I'm getting better at remembering to bring my own bags these days! :P

darkpagandeath

Galadriel wrote: »

Yes? but do M&S et al charge extra on top of the levy? I thought they didn't although I'm getting better at remembering to bring my own bags these days! :P

yeah looking at it now the whole tax goes to the goberment

Valetta

If the paper isn't food grade they can't put food into it.

'Elf and safety, innit.

Galadriel

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I have one of them

Mine fall out and attack me when I try to take one :eek:

darkpagandeath

Valetta wrote: »

If the paper isn't food grade they can't put food into it.

'Elf and safety, innit.

but i'm not putting raw chicken breasts into it am I ? everything these days has packaging on it even if you don't want it

Valetta

darkpagandeath wrote: »

but i'm not putting raw chicken breasts into it am I ? everything these days has packaging on it even if you don't want it

Doesn't matter.

Them's the rules.

MadsL

Galadriel wrote: »

Cept when you keep forgetting them and end up with a cupboard stacked floor to ceiling with the bloody things :pac:

erm..leave em in the car?

B.A._Baracus

Gotta hate the Irish government.... and even hate certain people for buying into the tax.

Like there was so much tax as it was (before the household charge etc) ... but what did the Government decide to do in 2007? tax plastic bags. yup thats right. tax your bag. But of course it was done with 'environmental aspects' in mind *wink wink*

anncoates

The target market of M&S is gullible souls that are at pains to be conspicuously observed paying horrendously over the odds for TV Dinners ("Tender Hertfordshire Veal and Saffron Bake in Red Wine Jus" ) or Cheese and Onion Crisps ("Artisan Shetland Cheddar and Caramelised Shallot") so you can understand their mystification when you start an argument over a 22c bag.

The Master

M&S?
The decadence of it all
No recession in that house

Maximus Alexander

MadsL wrote: »

erm..leave em in the car?

Erm... what if you've no car?

Luap

I'm surprised they don't charge you for using a basket in there!

Corruptedmorals

Same in most places with grocery and drapery. The drapery bags are only designed to carry clothes. In Dunnes, they even suck at doing that. They will do you for light grocery things but haven't a hope in hell of supporting half of the stock they carry. You insist on one, and it breaks and a jar goes all over your shoes. It's likely you will blame the store.

I worked in Dunnes and HATED this rule. Paper bags are actually scanned in transactions, and regularly counted and checked up on vs the number recorded scanned to see if it adds up to the total. There's no sign, you have to break the bad news yourself to customers and get your head bitten off in exchange. I hope you realised it's a policy from higher up and didn't act as if the cashier made it up to spite you..

roadrunner16

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Gotta hate the Irish government.... and even hate certain people for buying into the tax.

Like there was so much tax as it was (before the household charge etc) ... but what did the Government decide to do in 2007? tax plastic bags. yup thats right. tax your bag. But of course it was done with 'environmental aspects' in mind *wink wink*

the reason was to reduce the amount of bags used, and it worked , average use per capita dropped from 328 to 21 plastic bags per capita the year it was introduced . and all the money from the levy goes into the environment fund from the waste management act( 2001 amendment ). it was a brilliant idea for a levy, and should be maintained if not increased,

and also if you are shopping in M&S, the 22 cent levy on a plastic bag is nothing, next time bring you're own bag. Simples

B.A._Baracus

roadrunner16 wrote: »

the reason was to reduce the amount of bags used, and it worked , average use per capita dropped from 328 to 21 plastic bags per capita the year it was introduced . and all the money from the levy goes into the environment fund from the waste management act( 2001 amendment ). it was a brilliant idea for a levy, and should be maintained if not increased,

and also if you are shopping in M&S, the 22 cent levy on a plastic bag is nothing, next time bring you're own bag. Simples

Tax tax tax.

roadrunner16

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Tax tax tax.

did you read what I posted ?

B.A._Baracus

roadrunner16 wrote: »

did you read what I posted ?

I actually did
But i've only heard of the waste management act. Dont fully understand what it is. I tried googling it there a few minutes ago and got some legal gargle.

So all the levy goes to this waste management fund - Then what tho? like what is that? ... as general house hold refuse is private companies these days...

roadrunner16

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I actually did
But i've only heard of the waste management act. Dont fully understand what it is. I tried googling it there a few minutes ago and got some legal gargle.

So all the levy goes to this waste management fund - Then what tho? like what is that? ... as general house hold refuse is private companies these days...

schemes to prevent/reduce waste

research & development into waste management

implementation of waste management plans

and loads of other sh1t im to lazy to copy and paste, heres the link
http://www.environ.ie/en/Environment/Waste/EnvironmentFund/

B.A._Baracus

roadrunner16 wrote: »

schemes to prevent/reduce waste

research & development into waste management

implementation of waste management plans

and loads of other sh1t im to lazy to copy and paste, heres the link
http://www.environ.ie/en/Environment/Waste/EnvironmentFund/

Wait, hold on ....
You are telling me that this levy goes towards a specific government sector/staff, who already get a yearly budget paid for by the tax payers money...

WTF!? and you agree with this crap?

roadrunner16

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Wait, hold on ....
You are telling me that this levy goes towards a specific government sector/staff, who already get a yearly budget paid for by the tax payers money...

WTF!? and you agree with this crap?

did you read what the levy gets spent on ?

jrmb

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Michael Marks was Jewish, so it is obviously part of the greater Zion conspiracy.

So was Mr Cohen of T. E. Stockwell & Cohen... :eek:

HeidiHeidi

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Wait, hold on ....
You are telling me that this levy goes towards a specific government sector/staff, who already get a yearly budget paid for by the tax payers money...

WTF!? and you agree with this crap?

If the 22c per bag went into the staff Christmas drinks fund, or even their pockets, I'd still think it was a good idea if reduces use, consumption and therefore production of plastic bags, which are the work of the devil as far as I'm concerned.

(and yes, I realise that they're useful, but no-one needs 20 of them per shop)

oppenheimer1

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Gotta hate the Irish government.... and even hate certain people for buying into the tax.

Like there was so much tax as it was (before the household charge etc) ... but what did the Government decide to do in 2007? tax plastic bags. yup thats right. tax your bag. But of course it was done with 'environmental aspects' in mind *wink wink*

I actually think it was one of the better green taxes. Before the tax it could be argued that the plastic bag stuck in the branch of a tree was our unofficial national flag (a rare sight now thankfully). By giving the bag a value they are certainly not discarded after use without a reason, and not used needlessly.

K-9

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Wait, hold on ....
You are telling me that this levy goes towards a specific government sector/staff, who already get a yearly budget paid for by the tax payers money...

WTF!? and you agree with this crap?

Just ignore that the actual point of the tax worked then.

How it was spent is a different matter and that can be worked on, that the tax actually works is unarguable, though that wont stop some, but we don't have a tax for stupidity.

123balltv

My friend works for an Irish shop starts with a D she told me they have
to scan paper bags :mad: barcode at the bottom so management can check to see if there giving them for clothes and homewares

People watching too much american tv in Ireland staff not allowed to give
paper bags for food.

blindside88

Supervalu always give paper bags for food...... And they charge for them

April O Neill

humbert wrote: »

The aim is to encourage people to reuse their bags. Grumpiness over the cost of a bag, where cheapness and laziness meet.

Forgetting to bring bags is hardly lazy. It just means you forgot to bring bags.

April O Neill

MadsL wrote: »

Bag for life - problem solved. You knew you were going shopping, bring a bag.

Nobody is going to remember to bring bags 100% of the time, not a single person.