what type of enthusiast are you

corkgsxr

What do you prefer

CianRyan

Cars. :pac:


Eh, Japanese, petrol, low, fast and loud.

Edit for the the poll.

First out, I'd be all about getting the car going, stopping and changing direction fast and safely. After that's sorted I'd work on the looks but looks are definitely important to me.
Function over form, not the other way round.

Sobanek

Too many drinks tonight? What do you mean?

I love small diesel engines and no spec

Ded_Zebra

I like cars to be totally factory original or as close as reasonably possible. Most people think it's shockin' ghey but there you go

Atlantic Dawn

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I like cars to be totally factory original or as close as reasonably possible. Most people think it's shockin' ghey but there you go

Me too, like it close to what the original designer had in mind. My exception is that I don't mind someone updgrading items on the car to match the next model, that's allowed .

Scortho

I don't know if an alfa 156 v6 is a sleeper or not (has scared a few cars though that think its a 1.6 Tim spark.)

Personally for me it has to be fast. I want the body to look well as well but upgrading suspension and brakes will be done before the bodywork is done as it'll be funner to drive.
I'd take a fast sleeper over a slow looker any day.

On the factory original, I'll keep the interior and exterior as original as possible, but I will improve the cars handling etc.

CianRyan

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Me too, like it close to what the original designer had in mind. My exception is that I don't mind someone updgrading items on the car to match the next model, that's allowed .

If you want a car to look like the designer wanted, then you should by no means keep it standard.

Ded_Zebra

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Me too, like it close to what the original designer had in mind. My exception is that I don't mind someone updgrading items on the car to match the next model, that's allowed .

No no, I take it as it is, including all of the design compromises and weaknesses. I'm not sure why I like cars like that but at the end of the day the manufacturer was happy to sell it like that so I'm happy t drive it like that:)

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

I liked my volvo,

luxury and comfort with plenty of extras, but with 180bhp from a 2L turbo engine resulting in 155MPH on the motorway with very little noise !

i also like off roading !

Scortho

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

No no, I take it as it is, including all of the design compromises and weaknesses. I'm not sure why I like cars like that but at the end of the day the manufacturer was happy to sell it like that so I'm happy t drive it like that:)

Heated seats included? :pac:

Ded_Zebra

Scortho wrote: »

Heated seats included? :pac:

Everyone has a weakness and breaks the rules sometimes

In the summer I took the switch out and put the blanking plate back in so there was no way of telling they were fitted.:D

dgt

Sleeper

Like what I should be doing now :pac:

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Where's the diesel with excessive smoke option?

MuppetCheck

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

I liked my volvo,

luxury and comfort with plenty of extras, but with 180bhp from a 2L turbo engine resulting in 155MPH on the motorway with very little noise !

i also like off roading !

There must have been some wind behind you.

Bull crap.

I still would want something that looked nice, but not overly stand out-ish if I was buying a nice car.

corktina

I like a car that goes, not fussy about a car for show.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

MuppetCheck wrote: »

There must have been some wind behind you.

Bull crap.

I still would want something that looked nice, but not overly stand out-ish if I was buying a nice car.

whats bullcrap ? the speed ?

i actually got that from the volvo on the motorway a few times !

it was electronically limited to 155mph

if i still had it id prove it

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

whats bullcrap ? the speed ?

i actually got that from the volvo on the motorway a few times !

it was electronically limited to 155mph

if i still had it id prove it

parkers wrote:

Top Speed134 mph

I think I would believe Parkers over a claimed 20 mph discrepancy to be fair! 155mph is usually BMW/Merc/Porsche/Audi etc territory. Especially in the late 90's cars.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I think I would believe Parkers over a claimed 20 mph discrepancy to be fair! 155mph is usually BMW/Merc/Porsche/Audi etc territory. Especially in the late 90's cars.

like i said . if i still had it i'd let you try for yourself.

i definitely remember getting that.

Red Kev

I've an 01 SAAB 9-3 (parked up for the moment). Engine was supposed to be cured of it's sludge issues, but SAAB messed something up in the paperwork, so when the engine went a few years back, SAAB replaced it for free. Couldn't find the standard engine so they put the 205 bhp lump in it.

Last owner got it up to 225 bhp with some modest tuning, nothing too wild. At the moment it sits on the bog standard cheapest alloys that SAAB have, it's an auto and is pretty lethal in a straight line.

Neighbour has an 08 325i and the SAAB is faster which is nice. Saab has no outward mods, no plastic bits, no stickers, no tints, just a seriously fast accelerating car on very nondescript wheels. Very comfy too.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

like i said . if i still had it i'd let you try for yourself.

i definitely remember getting that.

Book says it is not possible, by some margin.
User claims it, but it is not verifiable.
Hmm. Much as it pains me to do (:D)so I will agree with Muppetcheck on this

Red Kev wrote: »

I've an 01 SAAB 9-3 (parked up for the moment). Engine was supposed to be cured of it's sludge issues, but SAAB messed something up in the paperwork, so when the engine went a few years back, SAAB replaced it for free. Couldn't find the standard engine so they put the 205 bhp lump in it.

Last owner got it up to 225 bhp with some modest tuning, nothing too wild. At the moment it sits on the bog standard cheapest alloys that SAAB have, it's an auto and is pretty lethal in a straight line.

Neighbour has an 08 325i and the SAAB is faster which is nice. Saab has no outward mods, no plastic bits, no stickers, no tints, just a seriously fast accelerating car on very nondescript wheels. Very comfy too.

Now that is what a Q car is all about. Gotta love 'em

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Book says it is not possible, by some margin.
User claims it, but it is not verifiable.
Hmm. Much as it pains me to do (:D)so I will agree with Muppetcheck on this

if i ever get that specific car back (the one i owned not another model the same type)

i will prove it to all !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

if i ever get that specific car back (the one i owned not another model the same type)

i will prove it to all !

Had you modded it? I mean that would explain all. If that volvo was turboed DGT style then I am sure the car would be capable of the 155

HandsomeDan

small second had diesel, no extras or nonsense. A true enthusiasts car

Anything else is for homos really.

Chris_Heilong

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

if i ever get that specific car back (the one i owned not another model the same type)

i will prove it to all !

maybe you got Kph and not Mph?

thecomedian

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

if i ever get that specific car back (the one i owned not another model the same type)

i will prove it to all !

The 180bhp 2.0t Volvo won't do 155mph.
I had one.

Sleeper car for me especially Volvo t5s or R cars.

tossy

I love sleeper cars, i suppose in a way the S3 is a sleeper and my old Bora was the definition of a Q car.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

maybe you got Kph and not Mph?

over 220kph

now unless at one stage in its life someone did change the turbo or something that i didn't know about ?

but i know it definitely did it for me.... scared the shiiite out of some people doing it !

but anyway, i like the cars that dont look fast but are rockets, and luxobarges !

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

over 220kph

now unless at one stage in its life someone did change the turbo or something that i didn't know about ?

but i know it definitely did it for me.... scared the shiiite out of some people doing it !

but anyway, i like the cars that dont look fast but are rockets, and luxobarges !

Did you own an evo at some point, and it turned out you didnt?

Gary ITR

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Had you modded it? I mean that would explain all. If that volvo was turboed DGT style then I'd sure the car would be capable of the 155

Top speed usually has more to do with gearing than power. My race car is geared for about 135mph. I want to peg that back to around 115mph though

Driving along at 155mph in a volvo with relatively little driving experience is thick at best. Anybody at that shouldn't be allowed share the roads with the rest of us.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Gary ITR wrote: »

Top speed usually has more to do with gearing than power. My race car is geared for about 135mph. I want to peg that back to around 115mph though

Driving along at 155mph in a volvo with relatively little driving experience is thick at best. Anybody at that shouldn't be allowed share the roads with the rest of us.

Was that directed at me? I wasnt condoning his behavior I was just commenting that it would be possible with some mods.

Obviously you could just gear it longer to get a higher top speed but there are easier ways.

CianRyan

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Was that directed at me? I wasnt condoning his behavior I was just commenting that it would be possible with some mods.

Obviously you could just gear it longer to get a higher top speed but there are easier ways.

Not if you have a relatively final gear, you'd want to be pushing the box so hard it'd explode to gain another 20+mph I'd say.

cabb8ge

Gary ITR wrote: »

Top speed usually has more to do with gearing than power. My race car is geared for about 135mph. I want to peg that back to around 115mph though

Driving along at 155mph in a volvo with relatively little driving experience is thick at best. Anybody at that shouldn't be allowed share the roads with the rest of us.

second user in a week to claim similar.

just gearing longer will only in rare times result in higher top speed, most engines not have the power to reach higher rpm in top gear.

Gary ITR

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Was that directed at me? I wasnt condoning his behavior I was just commenting that it would be possible with some mods.

Obviously you could just gear it longer to get a higher top speed but there are easier ways.

Did you claim to be doing 155 in a volvo? Soot in your eyes? :pac:

cabb8ge

what type of enthusiast are you

1) sleeper car. looks fairly basic but goes like a rocket
2) show car. looks brilliant but engine doesnt bother you

I neither type.

I have old basic car that not a sleeper not a show car. I still think I enthusiast though. I work on cars in spare time for friends and family, I like engines etc etc. Google surfing about cars not my past time.

Gary ITR

cabb8ge wrote: »

second user in a week to claim similar.

just gearing longer will only in rare times result in higher top speed, most engines not have the power to reach higher rpm in top gear.

What I mean is top speed is usually limited by gearing, I would fond it hard to believe that the volvo has 20mph left in its box

cabb8ge

I agree indeed with you Gary

corktina

155 indicated on the speedo or actual 155? My cars top speed is reckoned to be 151mph. I doubt it would actually do it. Speedo is about 5% out anyway

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Gary ITR wrote: »

Did you claim to be doing 155 in a volvo? Soot in your eyes? :pac:

Must be the poisonous CO2 emissions combined with the soot inducing paranoia! :P

CianRyan wrote: »

Not if you have a relatively final gear, you'd want to be pushing the box so hard it'd explode to gain another 20+mph I'd say.

Gary ITR wrote: »

What I mean is top speed is usually limited by gearing, I would fond it hard to believe that the volvo has 20mph left in its box

To the above two posts, this is why I said that there were easier ways. I don't think 20mph gain is possible through longer ratios but a gain is possible. Increasing or adding turbo power or a supercharger is the quickest way to bhp and top speed increases

corktina wrote: »

155 indicated on the speedo or actual 155? My cars top speed is reckoned to be 151mph. I doubt it would actually do it. Speedo is about 5% out anyway

Mine is pretty accurate at top speed. Maximum a couple of km out even at 200 kmh, as per a satnav. My golf on the other hand used to be out by almost 10 mph once you hit 90 mph

CianRyan

To get that extra but if too end, with an already powerful car there is no easier way than changing a cog.you can add another 100bhp but once the box hits its threshold it's not going any faster.
There's a reason drag boxes are made so that you can change final drive in a matter of minutes.

thecomedian

Anyway a standard 180bhp Volvo won't do 155.
From what I had a 247bhp might get 157/8 and a 230bhp about 153, 155 at a struggle from what I've read.
Both were not heavier than a S80.

Speedo was wrong or it was modded.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

thecomedian wrote: »

Anyway a standard 180bhp Volvo won't do 155.
From what I had a 247bhp might get 157/8 and a 230bhp about 153, 155 at a struggle from what I've read.
Both were not heavier than a S80.

Speedo was wrong or it was modded.

Yep that is it, not a hope a standard model was hitting 155

thecomedian

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

over 220kph

now unless at one stage in its life someone did change the turbo or something that i didn't know about ?

but i know it definitely did it for me.... scared the shiiite out of some people doing it !

but anyway, i like the cars that dont look fast but are rockets, and luxobarges !

225kph is 140mph

Cleveland Hot Pocket

thecomedian wrote: »

225kph is 140mph

Zing
The Comedian strikes again

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Thats a fair point about the speedo i had forgotten... i never tested using GPS or anything

if the speedo was 10% off then 155mph on the dash would be 140mph in reality.

thecomedian

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Thats a fair point about the speedo i had forgotten... i never tested using GPS or anything

if the speedo was 10% off then 155mph on the dash would be 140mph in reality.

Unless it was a T6

dgt

Just thinking of the poll..... 3rd option doesn't make sense to me. Can't be a mix of both, subtle mods would have been politically correct!

To me:

Sleeper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57SQPu3M4A

Show car (if you could call this heap one :pac:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jpJppnseI

A mix....?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL6u1Q2juDg

I couldn't resist something agri felt spec

tossy

That last one is neither a sleeper or a show car.

I wouldn't go to any show that had that kind of Barrys stuff like in the second one.

I'm all over the Audi in the first.

dgt

tossy wrote: »

That last one is neither a sleeper or a show car.

I wouldn't go to any show that had that kind of Barrys stuff like in the second one.

I'm all over the Audi in the first.

I just couldn't resist with the last one kinda proves my point though, it's a mongrel of both :pac:

Neither would I buuuut a lot of young gentlemen do, thinking it's "wikkid tssssh innit bruv"

How did I know you'd like that Audi

thecomedian

tossy wrote: »

That last one is neither a sleeper or a show car.

I wouldn't go to any show that had that kind of Barrys stuff like in the second one.

I'm all over the Audi in the first.

I'd be the same here.

corkgsxr

Gary ITR wrote: »

Top speed usually has more to do with gearing than power. My race car is geared for about 135mph. I want to peg that back to around 115mph though

Driving along at 155mph in a volvo with relatively little driving experience is thick at best. Anybody at that shouldn't be allowed share the roads with the rest of us.

Imo top speed has more to do with power than gearing. Very few cars will redline 5th/6th, like my gsxr its geared for 186 but will only do 166.

Basically if you dont have the power a higher gear wont help

HandsomeDan

corkgsxr wrote: »

Imo top speed has more to do with power than gearing. Very few cars will redline 5th/6th, like my gsxr its geared for 186 but will only do 166.

Basically if you dont have the power a higher gear wont help

Peak power limits top speed, ultimately.

If a yoke is not geared such that it's putting out peak power as it's doing it's top speed, then the top speed will be further limited.