13.8 billion years in the making - Cosmos 2014

Nolars

Cant wait.

The Hill Billy

Looking forward to it, but...

This will probably upset your average Fox viewer who thinks that the Earth & the Heavens were only created 6,000 years ago. :pac:

Beeker

Should be good, but can't see it been as fantastic as the original with Carl Sagan. What a man! what a series!

mickmackey1

The Hill Billy wrote: »

This will probably upset your average Fox viewer who thinks that the Earth & the Heavens were only created 6,000 years ago. :pac:

Whatever age it is has no relevance in terms of explaining its origin, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that :rolleyes:

namloc1980

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Whatever age it is has no relevance in terms of explaining its origin, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that :rolleyes:

A science forum is not the place to be discussing magic sky people and creationism.

Karl Stein

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Whatever age it is has no relevance in terms of explaining its origin, but I wouldn't expect you to understand that :rolleyes:

Shut up.

mickmackey1

namloc1980 wrote: »

A science forum is not the place to be discussing magic sky people and creationism.

Not to mention the 'big bang' silliness.

Carlos Roca wrote: »

Shut up.

Past your bedtime kiddie.

The Hill Billy

What you refer to as 'Big Bang silliness' is accepted as a scientific reality.

What is your basis for referring to as 'silliness'? Bearing in mind that this is a Science forum & not a religious forum, of course...

Calibos

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Not to mention the 'big bang' silliness.



Past your bedtime kiddie.

I'm sorry, which one of us needs promises of goodies or threats of the bogeyman to make us behave again??

bogwalrus

Can mod's just ban obvious troll. I loved the original COSOMS and watched the trailer above that gave me the shivers (in a good way). So exciting and Neil degrasse tyson is such a great choice. Then I have to read down to be reminded people still believe in magic men in the sky which puts a downer on my mood. Science forums should be able to be much more stricter as it is not a belief system like on the religious forums where you have huge battles on who is right and wrong. Science is science and people who post otherwise should probably be warned and then banned.

mickmackey1

bogwalrus wrote: »

Can mod's just ban obvious troll... Science is science and people who post otherwise should probably be warned and then banned.

Your attempt to ban freedom of speech is seriously sad and should make yourself look in the mirror. Why are you so insecure that you don't want anyone to question your dearly-held scientific 'beliefs'?... and then you pretend to be less intolerant than your religious counterparts. What a joke.

Nolars

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Your attempt to ban freedom of speech is seriously sad and should make yourself look in the mirror. Why are you so insecure that you don't want anyone to question your dearly-held scientific 'beliefs'?... and then you pretend to be less intolerant than your religious counterparts. What a joke.

this is a discussion about Cosmos can you move over to the Religion & Spirituality section if you have an issue. goodluck.

The Hill Billy

I take it that you won't be watching the programme then. So why not let posters who believe in science discuss it without your religion-influenced interference?

I'd imagine that if the tables were turned we'd not be viewed too kindly by posters in the Religion forums.

Turn the other cheek if you will.

On the other hand if you wish to tell us how old you know the Universe to be & the basis for that - we'd be delighted to hear it. Otherwise I'd probably have to agree with the previous poster's assessment of you being a troll.

JupiterKid

Also looking forward to this. Sagan's 1980 original Cosmos was utterly groundbreaking so this new one has an awful lot to live up to.

Also looking forward to two space-themed films coming soon - Gravity and The Last Days On Mars.

bogwalrus

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Your attempt to ban freedom of speech is seriously sad and should make yourself look in the mirror. Why are you so insecure that you don't want anyone to question your dearly-held scientific 'beliefs'?... and then you pretend to be less intolerant than your religious counterparts. What a joke.

I took it you were a troll but if you are not then i apologise.

This little story might put things into perspective a bit. I was at a restaurant the last night and we were having a conversation about vegetarian food (since it was a veggie restaurant). Then all of a sudden one person just started talking about shoes and handbags out of nowhere. Threw the whole conversation off and the good conversation went a bit downhill after.

For me your comments were exactly like talking about handbags. Only difference is science can prove a handbag exists.

okioffice84

God I hope Fox don't make a hash of this. Love de Grasse Tyson btw

The Hill Billy

When I was a nipper back in the 70's my Dad gave me a real interest in Astronomy & all things related to space. From satellite spotting in the garden at night (which I still do) to trips to Dunsink.

Watching the original Cosmos really brought it to another level. I'm really hoping that the new version will do the same for my kids & many others. With modern production techniques, plus the massive advances in our knowledge - I'd imagine that Cosmos 2014 will be fairly spectacular & with Neil involved - scientifically accurate too.

Bring it on!

pauldla

I remember watching the series on RTE back in the early eighties; I must have been about 10 or 12. I was fascinated: I'd never seen anybody present so much information about so much with so much patience, wit and passion. Looking forward to the de Grasse Tyson version. The perfect man for the job!

Ole Rodrigo

Brilliant show, cant wait for the re-make. Wish I had seen it as a kid.

Also looking forward to the Terence Malicks ' Voyage of Time '.

Seanie M

Wow, when I saw the title, I thought you were talking about the upcoming Cosmos 2014 Star Party in Tullamore next April...

[-0-]

This looks GREAT! Pity we won't have Sagan presenting it but whatever.

ps200306

Probably just me but I cringed when I saw this. I find Neil deGrasse Tyson way, way too pompous. Found Carl Sagan somewhat the same (though maybe not as bad). I also seriously dislike that trailer. Why does it have to look like a magic show? Is deGrasse Tyson a mystic after all? Sagan seemed to fancy himself in that department too. In my book, there's no room for spirituality in science. Maybe it'll inspire a few kiddies, but don't think it's for me.

bogwalrus

ps200306 wrote: »

Probably just me but I cringed when I saw this. I find Neil deGrasse Tyson way, way too pompous. Found Carl Sagan somewhat the same (though maybe not as bad). I also seriously dislike that trailer. Why does it have to look like a magic show? Is deGrasse Tyson a mystic after all? Sagan seemed to fancy himself in that department too. In my book, there's no room for spirituality in science. Maybe it'll inspire a few kiddies, but don't think it's for me.

Where can I get your book? Sounds interesting.

ps200306

bogwalrus wrote: »

Where can I get your book? Sounds interesting.

It is, but unfortunately it's out of print.
Anything you want to know, just ask.
:P

Ole Rodrigo

ps200306 wrote: »

Probably just me but I cringed when I saw this. I find Neil deGrasse Tyson way, way too pompous. Found Carl Sagan somewhat the same (though maybe not as bad). I also seriously dislike that trailer. Why does it have to look like a magic show? Is deGrasse Tyson a mystic after all? Sagan seemed to fancy himself in that department too. In my book, there's no room for spirituality in science. Maybe it'll inspire a few kiddies, but don't think it's for me.

If you watch some other video of NDeGT, you'll see he is quite a humble and good humoured guy. Have a look for his interview with John Colbert on youtube, excellent stuff. If anyone took themselves too seriously it was Carl Sagan , but that still didn't detract from the show.

I just hope some of the graphics are from the same guys who did Gravity. Neil can bellow and bluster all he likes in that case

bumper234

JupiterKid wrote: »

Also looking forward to this. Sagan's 1980 original Cosmos was utterly groundbreaking so this new one has an awful lot to live up to.

Also looking forward to two space-themed films coming soon - Gravity and The Last Days On Mars.

Watched this last night...great movie

howamidifferent

Where can I see this COSMOS 2014 show?

Nolars

bumper234 wrote: »

Watched this last night...great movie

Check out Neils podcast Startalk Radio on the movie called "Cosmic Queries: Gravity, the movie" was a good listen.

slade_x

Nolars wrote: »

Check out Neils podcast Startalk Radio on the movie called "Cosmic Queries: Gravity, the movie" was a good listen.

http://www.startalkradio.net/show/cosmic-queries-gravity-the-movie/

howamidifferent wrote: »

Where can I see this COSMOS 2014 show?

It doesn't air in the states until Q2 2014 on Fox National Geographic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmos:_A_Space-Time_Odyssey

zenno

I found this one very interesting, well worth a watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t2glWNeVyg

stoneill

Neil deGrasse Tyson is hosting a new version called "Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey,"
Ann Druyan and Brannon Braga are also on board for production.


http://www.space.com/24243-cosmos-tv-series-neil-degrasse-tyson.html

I hope it inspires as many youngsters as the original Carl Sagan's personal voyage.

Taylor365

stoneill wrote: »

Neil deGrasse Tyson is hosting a new version called "Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey,"
Ann Druyan and Brannon Braga are also on board for production.


http://www.space.com/24243-cosmos-tv-series-neil-degrasse-tyson.html

I hope it inspires as many youngsters as the original Carl Sagan's personal voyage.

...this is what the thread is about....?

pauldla

Taylor365 wrote: »

...this is what the thread is about....?

Merged thread, perhaps?

Taylor365

pauldla wrote: »

Merged thread, perhaps?

Ah....

Me no scientist..

Neil deGrasse on the other hand...

JupiterKid

Looking forward to this show.

If it's even a fraction as good as Carl Sagan's original Cosmos then it will be worth a watch.

slade_x

USA: Airing Sunday March 9th 9PM

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey/

Episode: Standing Up in the Milky Way

Next Airing: SUN MAR 9 9PM ETSUN MAR 9 8PM CTSUN MAR 9 10PM MTSUN MAR 9 9PM PTSUN MAR 9 8PM ATSUN MAR 9 10PM HT

The Ship of the Imagination, unfettered by ordinary limits on speed and size, drawn by the music of cosmic harmonies, can take us anywhere in space and time. It has been idling for more than three decades, and yet it has never been overtaken. Its global legacy remains vibrant. Now, it's time once again to set sail for the stars.

http://natgeotv.com/uk/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey

UK: Sunday March 16th 7PM

ankaragucu

Is this liable to be shown on terrestrial tv at some point?(pardon the pun)

Nerro

Anyone seen first episode?is it worth watching?

Duggy747

I saw it, it's very flashy and the CGI is really quite good, very good for a TV show actually. It's about 40 minutes long so it is trying hard to squeeze everything in but it doesn't feel like it rushes by anything too much. The ad breaks are jarring considering they break the flow and momentum of the show and it did spend a large chunk of it's runtime on an animated telling of Giordano Bruno.

To be honest, I found it quite cheesy in parts as I was so used to watching Tyson candidly in interviews and speeches for years beforehand. Here he sounds like he's doing a voice-over for a trailer in some parts and feels like I'm watching a sort of watered down version of him, considering how animated he does be when explaining things.

That being said, he is good and I still think he was the right choice for the show. It had a good start and I'm looking forward to next week's show which will be on evolution.

Plus, it had a nice tribute to Carl Sagan with Tyson telling his personal story of him.

Nolars

Getting this now forgot all about it, 1080p plz

bogwalrus

I liked it. Not as good as original. Loved the story about Carl and Tyson. Nearly cried. Need to dig out my Carl sagan poster and put it up somewhere in my man cave.

pauldla

It's being shown here on Sat at 10:00 pm on Nat Geo. I've told the eldest (9) that he can stay up late to watch it if he's good. I hope he gets as much from it as I got from the original all those years ago!

Beeker

pauldla wrote: »

It's being shown here on Sat at 10:00 pm on Nat Geo. I've told the eldest (9) that he can stay up late to watch it if he's good. I hope he gets as much from it as I got from the original all those years ago!

Its not on Saturday by the way, its Sunday at 7pm on National Grographic, National Goegraphic Wild, Fox and Sky 1 plus repeated many times over the next few hours and days. 13 episodes in total like the Original. Hope your Son enjoys it. I watched the original myself with Carl Sagan as a 13 year old and it changed my life. Fantastic stuff

pauldla

Beeker wrote: »

Its not on Saturday by the way, its Sunday at 7pm on National Grographic, National Goegraphic Wild, Fox and Sky 1 plus repeated many times over the next few hours and days. 13 episodes in total like the Original. Hope your Son enjoys it. I watched the original myself with Carl Sagan as a 13 year old and it changed my life. Fantastic stuff

Thanks! It's interesting to see the number of people who remember watching then they were young; I was ten at the time. Are you sure about the time of the show? I checked the Nat Geo Asia site and they're listing as 22:00 on the 15th. I'd hate to miss it....I might just have to spend the whole weekend camped out in front of the TV...

Beeker

pauldla wrote: »

Thanks! It's interesting to see the number of people who remember watching then they were young; I was ten at the time. Are you sure about the time of the show? I checked the Nat Geo Asia site and they're listing as 22:00 on the 15th. I'd hate to miss it....I might just have to spend the whole weekend camped out in front of the TV...

Sorry I was giving the times for Europe but I see you are in China, so disregard the times I gave

expectationlost

seems they waste of lot of time showing him moving around in his stupid ship, they could have used the cgi budget to come up with better way to show the distances he was travelling

thecommander

Turned it off after 10 minutes. Really hate the CGI, much prefer him to talk through it rather than acting against a green screen.

The Hill Billy

Too heavy on the CGI, nothing new or no special perspectives given on current knowledge.

All told, I would have said that it was OK, but the extended church-bashing over matters long past was frankly very disappointing.

slade_x

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Too heavy on the CGI, nothing new or no special perspectives given on current knowledge.

All told, I would have said that it was OK, but the extended church-bashing over matters long past was frankly very disappointing.

I also found myself disappointed with the series so far but I should keep in mind it is not intended for me and the majority of regulars here. Its mandate was made clear from the start. to communicate these subjects to the public, the uninterested/ uninformed public.

The same vision Carl Sagan had, at the time when the vast majority of the scientific community didn't agree. It has become much easier to communicate science to the public in recent years, this series wont have the same polarizing affect the original had because Carl achieved what he set out to do and thus easily achieves the title of the Greatest Science Communicator of our time. Science is not just interesting, it is down right Cool. Thanks to Carl in part for showing us :cool:

This doesn't diminish the current re-imagining of the show however, it is just for a now young audience, and from what I can tell a young audience loves CG

Turtwig

I HATE the movie Armageddon. Absolutely HATE it. But when 7 or 8 year old me saw it I was blown away by the concepts of Asteroids, space shuttle's and gravitational sling shot. It's really odd because the movie that I now can't watch without cringing was the movie that sparked my interest in Space in a big way. I don't even know how terrible that sounds, owing something to Michael Bay. I really wish I'd seen Cosmos. It wasn't until somebody posted in a link in the A&A forum that I saw what the series was about and I was like 'meh' that's good but I know most of that stuff already. It's better to read up in detail and be able to do math with the things to gain some intuitive approximation to what they are.

Like Slade said, The series isn't aimed at us and I sure as hell prefer the ordinary Joe Soap getting their inspiration for science from shows like the Cosmos rather than CSI or Transformers. Many people here in this forum are looking for something that furthers their knowledge. You're not going to get that in a pop sci show for a mainstream audience. You need to go a little deeper.

bogwalrus

On the second episode that was on last night he was explaining natural selection in such a nice simple way. I must admit all those gaps I had in my mind were filled and it felt great. The whole thing about artificial selection and dogs was cool also. I think the show is aimed at me tbh.