What jobs pay 100k?

lg01

Just wondering, if you wanted a salary of 100k plus in this country - what are the jobs that pay this kind of money? Across the different categories, where can you make a lot of money earlier on in your career? I think it will be interesting to hear, and there will be some surprises too. Obviously 100k plus is not uncommon in C level management - but there are jobs you can get and make this money without running the show?

Bepolite

lg01 wrote: »

Just wondering, if you wanted a salary of 100k plus in this country - what are the jobs that pay this kind of money? Across the different categories, where can you make a lot of money earlier on in your career? I think it will be interesting to hear, and there will be some surprises too. Obviously 100k plus is not uncommon in C level management - but there are jobs you can get and make this money without running the show?

Prostitution, drug dealing and IT. Tech jobs also with the relevant qualifications.

Always bear in mind Ireland's tech market hangs in the balance of having a low tax rate for companies, the rug could get pulled at any minute.

Manach

Offhand it was mentioned in a recent Phoenix that Amnesty Ireland's Director gets 110K. A fact I can share with their next chugger.

Bepolite

Manach wrote: »

Offhand it was mentioned in a recent Phoenix that Amnesty Ireland's Director gets 110K. A fact I can share with their next chugger.

OT but I don't have a problem with the director getting decent salary - talent acquisition and all that. The fact that the chuggers are on mad money + commission p!sses me off.

Add chugger to my list. Also if you can sell, you can always make money, how much is down to finding the right product and company.

long range shooter

Offshore

sarkozy

Manach wrote: »

Offhand it was mentioned in a recent Phoenix that Amnesty Ireland's Director gets 110K. A fact I can share with their next chugger.

This is generally public information as NGOs are obliged like all companies to file annual accounts. NGOs, due to their need to demonstrate accountability, publish these figures more often than private sector companies in their annual accounts.

Added to the fact that this pay level is only among those major NGOs working in Ireland and on overseas development. Most other CEO salaries in NGOs are so much less than that.

And I'll also say that, as someone who has worked all his working life in the charity sector, it's been gutted. I'm unemployed and have never earned a fraction of 100k and could never hope to.

The fact that the chuggers are on mad money + commission p!sses me off

Minimum wage? Yeah, mad money.

lukesmom

I know an Actuary who earns over 100k

Bepolite

sarkozy wrote: »

Minimum wage? Yeah, mad money.

I'm not aware of any of them on minimum wage. I know of one girl who was on €16 per hour. Now lets work out at €2 a month how much of my money goes to where it's supposed to?

SCOOP 64

Bepolite wrote: »

Prostitution, drug dealing and IT. Tech jobs also with the relevant qualifications.

yeah, but Prostitution and Drug dealing are hard to get in to.

Gone West

Bepolite wrote: »

Always bear in mind Ireland's tech market hangs in the balance of having a low tax rate for companies, the rug could get pulled at any minute.

That's not true. The main players in this aren't even really all that concerned with the 12%... it's the 0% that they are after...

OP: IT jobs can pay 100k. If you are a hotshot engineer, a good business analyst, a talented developer, in fact if you are very very good at anything, you can bill 100k.
If you are prepared to go down the contracting / consulting route, 100k is actually not that hard to attain. I know a handful of guys in their 20s doing a hundred grand before tax in Dublin. 10 years ago they were setting up ad-hoc networks to play multiplayer computer games, and now they are leading engineering departments in large multinationals.

Bepolite

Fuzzy wrote: »

That's not true. The main players in this aren't even really all that concerned with the 12%... it's the 0% that they are after...

We'll see :pac: The next massive recessesion in this country will down to the tech sector relocating. When it happens, I fecking called it!

Even if they don't it's wise to make hay while the sun shines and save for a rainy day regardless.

Gone West

Bepolite wrote: »

We'll see :pac: The next massive recessesion in this country will down to the tech sector relocating. When it happens, I fecking called it!

Even if they don't it's wise to make hay while the sun shines and save for a rainy day regardless.

Where will these companies go? (HP, Microsoft, EMC, IBM, Intel, Facebook, Fujitsu, Twitter, LinkedIN, Accenture, Paypal, Amazon, Google, Oracle, Apple, etc)
What other country has all of the following:
1) Easy access to Europe for filling tons of multilingual jobs
2) The Euro
3) English as the primary language
4) Decent tech skills (admittedly, we need to upskill many thousands of college grads to fill the roles)
5) A government that "plays ball" with the multinationals
6) The tech infrastructure to handle it
7) "x factor", there is definitely a certain quality exhibited by Irish people working in the international tech sector... It's hard to describe, and only a certain few have it, but there are creative minds out there with drive and vision, and great things are being engineered here in Ireland that are released to the world stage via the American tech giants.

lg01

Sorry bepolite but you're miles off the mark. There is a very good reason why Google, Facebook, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Twitter etc are here - and it's not just the 12% tax rate. Many of these companies do not even declare much profit through Ireland - they are here for the reasons Fuzzy mentioned above and many more - but mostly the talent. It's not like Dell who relocated much of manufacturing to eastern Europe etc.

Anyway back on topic there are some sales jobs in tech and medical that pay 100k - obviously they do rely on commission from hitting targets but they are around...

Found an interesting site showing income distribution and where you fit in :http://www.publicpolicy.ie/where-do-you-fit-in/
The tax you pay at this level is incredible.

Bepolite

Fuzzy wrote: »

Where will these companies go? (HP, Microsoft, EMC, IBM, Intel, Facebook, Fujitsu, Twitter, LinkedIN, Accenture, Paypal, Amazon, Google, Oracle, Apple, etc)
What other country has all of the following:
1) Easy access to Europe for filling tons of multilingual jobs
2) The Euro
3) English as the primary language
4) Decent tech skills (admittedly, we need to upskill many thousands of college grads to fill the roles)
5) A government that "plays ball" with the multinationals
6) The tech infrastructure to handle it
7) "x factor", there is definitely a certain quality exhibited by Irish people working in the international tech sector... It's hard to describe, and only a certain few have it, but there are creative minds out there with drive and vision, and great things are being engineered here in Ireland that are released to the world stage via the American tech giants.

lg01 wrote: »

Sorry bepolite but you're miles off the mark. There is a very good reason why Google, Facebook, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Twitter etc are here - and it's not just the 12% tax rate. Many of these companies do not even declare much profit through Ireland - they are here for the reasons Fuzzy mentioned above and many more - but mostly the talent.

Keep telling yourself that lads. They are here because our tax law system allows them to pay very, very little tax. That loophole will eventually be closed. Admittedly a government that plays ball also helps.

Talent and language are complete non-runners. If Irish talent was that big a deal it would be shipped in to where ever the overheads are cheapest.

Every single one of the companies listed could be gone in a heart beat. It amazes me how subsequent generations of Irish citizens manage to delude themselves in to thinking anything is a certainty.

MouseTail

You're wrong bepolite. Any of those companies you mentioned could negotiate a good tax deal wherever they located. They are primarily here because we are the only English speaking country in the Eurozone, the synergy of having other tech companies here, as well as the other factors mentioned above. The corporate tax rate is a red herring.

Bepolite

MouseTail wrote: »

You're wrong bepolite. Any of those companies you mentioned could negotiate a good tax deal wherever they located. They are primarily here because we are the only English speaking country in the Eurozone, the synergy of having other tech companies here, as well as the other factors mentioned above. The corporate tax rate is a red herring.

The blinkers are staggering. It's not the tax rate - which gets us enough flak as it is but the loop holes that allow companies to pay tax in the low single digits. The UK is clamping down (slowly and carefully) due to public demand, in Ireland it will be a factor of the EU closing it off.

Synergies are one thing - they go as firms pull out once pressure from the EU forces us to close our tax loop holes. Most of the French and Spanish people I know speak better English then the Irish/English, to say nothing of the Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands.

I'll leave it there, it's like trying to tell people not to buy property in 2004/5. Wishful thinking will always prevail. Make hay while the sunshines and don't get yourself, or the country in to massive debt expecting these industries to remain in Ireland.

Bandana boy

Bepolite wrote: »

Most of the French and Spanish people I know speak better English then the Irish/English, to say nothing of the Scandinavian countries and the Netherlands.

Hyperbole is the single greatest way to win an argument ever.

This says more about you and the company you keep than prove your point.

Bandana boy

At OP
Nearly every job can pay 100K+ if you are good enough compared to the rest of the field.

If you want jobs where the average is over 100k you are looking at Doctors ,Actuary and maybe Broker as the only fields who have such a high average.

Bepolite

Bandana boy wrote: »

Hyperbole is the single greatest way to win an argument ever.

This says more about you and the company you keep than prove your point.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. The fact of that matter is the Irish and British education systems (understanding that there is some diversity) simply do not teach language skills to the degree that they do in many European countries. Furthermore English tends to be the language people want to learn because of popular culture.

As for the company I keep, are you trying to assert that people that can 'speak proper' are better people? How very westbrit of you :pac:

finisklin

Have a look at Brightwater's 2013 salary survey - all functional areas command 100k salaries for Director level positions. The world is your oyster.

D1stant

Bandana boy wrote: »

At OP
Nearly every job can pay 100K+ if you are good enough compared to the rest of the field.

Are you serious? So if I get really good at sweeping roads, serving burgers, pulling pints, cleaning toilets, driving a bus, etc etc?

Neon_Lights

"My dad's the highest earning partner in KPMG" - Anon

Bandana boy

D1stant wrote: »

Are you serious? So if I get really good at sweeping roads, serving burgers, pulling pints, cleaning toilets, driving a bus, etc etc?

I did say nearly !
If you pick a job with no discernible skills required then why would you ever earn big money.

But pretty much every job that can be considered a career has the potential to earn 100K + if you get to the top of your field.

Oh and by the way there are several bus drivers who earn 100K+ a year

my teapot is orange

D1stant wrote: »

Are you serious? So if I get really good at sweeping roads, serving burgers, pulling pints, cleaning toilets, driving a bus, etc etc?

I think the idea is that if you get really good at pulling pints you progress to bar manager. You might then get a more senior managerial job in hospitality/start your own place etc. It's more about working your way up in a career area than getting 100K in a single job. You may have to train/study along the way.

smcgiff

my teapot is orange wrote: »

It's more about working your way up in a career area than getting 100K in a single job. You may have to train/study along the way.

WHAT! You cannot start off on €100k?!? Bloody government.

Cuddlesworth

Neon_Lights wrote: »

"My dad's the highest earning partner in KPMG" - Anon

He wasn't though.

Elephant Man from china

Fuzzy wrote: »

That's not true. The main players in this aren't even really all that concerned with the 12%... it's the 0% that they are after...

OP: IT jobs can pay 100k. If you are a hotshot engineer, a good business analyst, a talented developer, in fact if you are very very good at anything, you can bill 100k.
If you are prepared to go down the contracting / consulting route, 100k is actually not that hard to attain. I know a handful of guys in their 20s doing a hundred grand before tax in Dublin. 10 years ago they were setting up ad-hoc networks to play multiplayer computer games, and now they are leading engineering departments in large multinationals.

"Not hard" is a bit of a stretch.. It's possible sure, but it's not quite as easy as you make out. With that said, it's pretty easy to get perm roles in the 60 a 80 range in almost any IT discipline assuming you have the references to back it up

3DataModem

Jaysus 100k better not be the top.

flynnlives

Borrow 20k and run in the next local elections and get elected.

then wait 2 years and run as a td.

not saying who but this has been done!


100k a year plus expenses! happy days.

April O Neill

lukesmom wrote: »

I know an Actuary who earns over 100k

Actuaries earn fab money - but, very few people have the smarts for it. Actually, that's why they can command such good salaries. Good for them. The smart fúckers.


:pac:

April O Neill

April O Neill wrote: »

Actuaries earn fab money - but, very few people have the smarts for it. Actually, that's why they can command such good salaries. Good for them. The smart fúckers.


:pac:

Plus there is the torture of the exams :pac:

lg01

That Brightwater survey shows a lot of Sales & Sales management jobs in and around the 100k mark. However I know a few people in IT sales and the commission element seems to be bigger. Usually a 50/50 or 60/40 split. No crazy exams needed there just a certain aptitude. All based on hitting target though so not guaranteed.

April O Neill

bluewolf wrote: »

Plus there is the torture of the exams :pac:

I've got the pain of accountancy and tax exams for the next few years. :pac: Not as hard as actuary exams though, I would imagine.

Neon_Lights

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

He wasn't though.

Well somebodys a miserable person anyway, what does cuddlesworth even mean?

NewBeefFarmer

Director in a multinational

cabb8ge

With a 12 hour overtime shift every week there some people working in pharmaceutical plants on €100k/annum, relative unskilled too. That with overtime though and also they on shift work so big shift premium.

Few and far between as most people doing similar work in other places earn multiples less.

Neon_Lights

Who wants to earn more than a hundred thousand working a job, you'd slave away with little quality of life at that level.

This blog/book really changed my perspective on things.

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/

Iwannahurl

Head librarian in Dublin City, curiously enough, or Director of Services in a local authority.

Other possibilities include Chief Executive of a harbour company, university lecturer, secondary school teacher, senior manager in the HSE or CEO of a registered charity.

yoke

amazing how off-the-mark people can be... if costs weren't a factor, those American multinationals would have never left America.

China and India are hardly 'ideal' places to open factories or IT offices, yet all the multinationals are doing it or have done it already because of costs in the west.

Anyone who thinks most multinationals are here mainly because of some perceived higher quality of Irish worker are sadly deluded. In the books of most publicly traded companies, workers = costs, this is why when profits are down, workers are fired to show lower costs in the books, and when general costs become too high, they relocate to somewhere cheaper.

irishdude11

lg01 wrote: »

Sorry bepolite but you're miles off the mark. There is a very good reason why Google, Facebook, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Twitter etc are here - and it's not just the 12% tax rate. Many of these companies do not even declare much profit through Ireland - they are here for the reasons Fuzzy mentioned above and many more - but mostly the talent. It's not like Dell who relocated much of manufacturing to eastern Europe etc.

Talent?? Lol...the level of IT graduates being churned out here are generally a joke compared to the standard internationally. Most Irish students are more interested in getting pissed and having a laugh in college than putting in big hours studying and working in the lab, which is the norm in other countries. There are big problems in the IT industry here with the quality of Irish graduates, and hence they are specifically looking to bring in foreign software developers.

The reason the multinationals are here is solely down to the tax rate and loopholes.

Mr. Loverman

The key is being able to play office politics.

Talented, nice people generally don't get promoted to director or senior manager...

Some senior tech types can earn over 100k but generally they also play the game somewhat.

srsly78

irishdude11 wrote: »

There are big problems in the IT industry here with the quality of Irish graduates, and hence they are specifically looking to bring in foreign software developers.

The reason the multinationals are here is solely down to the tax rate and loopholes.

Nope, they want to bring in more non-eu nationals to drive down wages. Employers offering good wages have no problems finding good staff.

Should add software developer to your 100k list

smcgiff

bluewolf wrote: »

Plus there is the torture of the exams :pac:

Pffffft - there are only 10 digits how hard can it be :P

Evelyn Cusack

Science

Thanks

Neon_Lights

Evelyn Cusack wrote: »

Science

Thanks

Namely meteorology and weather presenting.

€100k for a boring voice and teh wethur.

srsly78

Most scientists get paid a pittance, the only big money roles are for professors (fatcat public sector job basically) and weather forecasters as mentioned. There are a lot more phd graduates than there are tenure positions...

Neon_Lights

IT professionals are technically scientists so are data professionals and mathmeticians, also physicists (obviously) depends what you define as a broad spectrum scientist.

Neon_Lights' Theorem of Scientific Salarific Relativity

In general there is an proportional relationship between maths and problem solving, and a "scientist's" salary.

A scientist which is good at maths and problem solving and statistics usually === $$$$$$ Wowza $$$$$

A scientist which is more of a biology, lab monkey sort of scientist = Not so much

srsly78

Well when they go to work for banks they aren't called scientists anymore you see. Then they are quantitative analysts or whatever.

Neon_Lights

Quantitative Statistics is a science ....

srsly78

Yes, but economics isn't

Neon_Lights

Economics is a theoretical subject which claims to be a science but is more in line with astrology (also claims to be a science) and political science (also claims to be a science) ..... all bull****.

So if somebodys degree is in Economics and Political science, it hence is a degree in bull****. No wonder theres global warming when the people with degrees in bull**** rule the world.