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LGW to LAX for £199

  • 25-10-2013 1:38pm
    #1
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    lead-norwegian-international-image1.jpg

    All economy seating, in-flight back seat entertainment included but £30 extra for a package that will include meals, luggage and reserved seating.

    Flying budget airlines long haul will appeal to some but perhaps not all, although having flown with Norwegian on four occasions, I have absolutely no complaints about their service (quite the opposite).

    Also interesting to read that:
    The airline is also applying for a permanent Irish air operator’s certificate as it seeks to establish a low-cost base for its long-haul division. A decision on the application is expected in December or January and may include having a small team of employees based in Ireland, Kjos said.

    “It’s only a matter of traffic rights,” the executive said. Basing planes in Ireland, a European Union country, opens up a range of destinations that would otherwise be off limits due to a lack of bilateral agreements with non-EU member Norway, he said. “We need time to get access to the different places we want to fly to.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-17/norwegian-air-to-link-london-gatwick-to-new-york-l-a-florida.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭zone 1


    does this put pressure on MOL to start TA or would this drive him on even more. or are the planes just not there as he has said before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭MuffinsDa


    Norwegian is good news for European customers! I have never flown them but judging by the way they appear to operate they are definitely a disruptive force in the market the same way that Ryanair was maybe 15 years ago, and that's good news!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Is it me or is there a little propeller under that 787?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Is it me or is there a little propeller under that 787?

    There is! It's RAT, can't remember what it stands for.

    Although I don't know why it's down during final approach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    It'll be interesting to see how a true low cost long haul operator gets on flying transatlantic. What I'm looking forward to seeing hoe prices compare in the summer months versus all the airlines doing the same destinations from LHR


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    There is! It's RAT, can't remember what it stands for.

    Although I don't know why it's down during final approach?

    Ram Air Turbine

    Usually only deploys when the **** has hit the fan. Unless its some new tech on the 787 its a bit of a unfortunate foto to use to promote your airline :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭phonypony


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    There is! It's RAT, can't remember what it stands for.

    Ram Air Turbine :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Thanks, kept thinking it was Random Access Turbine but I had a hunch that it wasn't :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭zone 1


    its a 787 prob has gone tech


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,102 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Anyone got a photo of the seat? or any pics of the inside?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭lomb


    I think the generator deploys when BOTH engines have failed to power the minimum electrics in the cockpit and the hydraulics of the fly by wire system. Its an unfortunate way to advertise the airline .I dont think Il be boarding one any time soon:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭beer enigma


    kona wrote: »
    Ram Air Turbine

    Usually only deploys when the **** has hit the fan. Unless its some new tech on the 787 its a bit of a unfortunate foto to use to promote your airline :p

    It's a budget airline.....probably heats the coffee


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    It was a Boeing test flight. The rat was deployed intentionally.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Anyone got a photo of the seat? or any pics of the inside?

    http://www.norwegian.com/us/om-norwegian/fakta/fleet/sky-interior/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭zone 1


    hopefully a success. will ryanair be next ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    Just looking there the £199 flights start mid September 2014. which is €244. flight return is £211 = €254 about
    add your 38.80 return and the whole flight is coming to Total price incl. all taxes and surcharges €575.70
    Not bad prolly still excluding baggage charge credit card fees and what other small pieces are hidden in there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Bessarion


    zone 1 wrote: »
    hopefully a success. will ryanair be next ?

    Doubt it. The low cost long haul operation is only viable with new fuel efficient aircraft such as the A350 or B787. In this case Norwegian are able to operate a 200-250 seater aircraft on routes were their is proven demand. They had the funds in buy the aircraft. No question that Ryanair have the funds but they would now be at the back of the queue to receive new widebody aircraft.
    Is it me or is there a little propeller under that 787?
    Probably being used on this occasion to blow cold air over the Lithium batteries.....:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭dm09


    Jhcx wrote: »
    Just looking there the £199 flights start mid September 2014. which is €244. flight return is £211 = €254 about
    add your 38.80 return and the whole flight is coming to Total price incl. all taxes and surcharges €575.70
    Not bad prolly still excluding baggage charge credit card fees and what other small pieces are hidden in there

    575 return to LA from London is not cheap, i flew to la with BA this year for 600 including the Dublin connection plus you get full service - Meals, free booze, entertainment on demand.
    I've gotten flights to LA from Dublin in off season for 450euro with Delta/United


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    dm09 wrote: »
    575 return to LA from London is not cheap, i flew to la with BA this year for 600 including the Dublin connection plus you get full service - Meals, free booze, entertainment on demand.
    I've gotten flights to LA from Dublin in off season for 450euro with Delta/United

    Indeed with Aer Lingus its possible to reach most major US cities for 600 return if you are smart with your bookings, enjoy pre-clearance in Dublin and avoid Heathrow

    E.g. http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/weboffersfromireland/irelandtotheusa/

    Equally Delta can be very good value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭MuffinsDa


    From my experience, long haul flights originating from the UK are usually more expensive that those originating from Ireland. Many times I've seen BA/VA fares whereby it's cheaper to go DUB/LHR/Far east than exact same direct LHR/Far east leg originating in LHR.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Expect Norwegian to operate some flights out of Dublin across the Atlantic also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    Why is that?

    2 reasons really.BA and Vs want ex dub business and you don't need to go via the UK.
    It's the same with British carriers in other ex Eu markets,such that if you don't mind connecting lol,you can save money sometimes on BA,by flying Ei on a separate ticket out to Bru for example and starting your onward on BA via Lhr from there.

    The 2nd thing is UK apd is payable on ex Gb pnrs that start there and it is a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    It's actually possible to get to California for about €340 return with United Airlines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    It's actually possible to get to California for about €340 return with United Airlines.

    show me this ticket? :pac: i'd book one asap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Jhcx wrote: »
    show me this ticket? :pac: i'd book one asap

    Yup will do, as soon as they become available again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    Expect Norwegian to operate some flights out of Dublin across the Atlantic also.

    Do you have info or is this wishful thinking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭zone 1


    MOL has been saying that he whats to do TA but the back of 5 years on WB PLANE is the problem. and says that 787 is the idle choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Do you have info or is this wishful thinking?

    Read the article it backs up what I have been told i.e. They will have to base aircraft here to be able to get access to EU routes if they are going to register on the Irish register. As usual the caveat is that's based on something I heard from HQ so if they have to actually do it I personally don't know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭zone 1


    this would be great. if they can pull it off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    urajoke wrote: »
    Read the article it backs up what I have been told i.e. They will have to base aircraft here to be able to get access to EU routes if they are going to register on the Irish register. As usual the caveat is that's based on something I heard from HQ so if they have to actually do it I personally don't know.

    They are setting up there head office for the LH routes near the airport but don't think they have to base aircraft here to do it.

    Also the cheap fares quoted on this threat are few and far between, only a handful of dates for those. Add the 30-40 euro for return flights to LGW and low cost is gone as Aer Lingus are just as cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They are setting up there head office for the LH routes near the airport but don't think they have to base aircraft here to do it

    7th freedom rights and they want an Irish AOC. Will the Irish ask for a slice of the route pie as a trade off for all the routes Norwegian can/will fly as a result of getting their Irish AOC and getting reduced CC rates. Like I said I don't know it's just something I heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    There is! It's RAT, can't remember what it stands for.

    Although I don't know why it's down during final approach?

    Ram air turbine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    There is! It's RAT, can't remember what it stands for.

    Although I don't know why it's down during final approach?

    Ram air turbine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    urajoke wrote: »
    7th freedom rights and they want an Irish AOC. Will the Irish ask for a slice of the route pie as a trade off for all the routes Norwegian can/will fly as a result of getting their Irish AOC and getting reduced CC rates. Like I said I don't know it's just something I heard.

    Would be surprised if it happened.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Isn't there a restriction on foreign airlines operating in EU airports to fly to US? I thought I read something about Etihad not allowed to launch new routes from Dublin to US but instead they can only use Dublin as a stopover and not pick up any passengers or something like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    This post has been deleted.

    Does the Openskies not overrule FAA's dictation on who can fly where in the US?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    Isn't there a restriction on foreign airlines operating in EU airports to fly to US? I thought I read something about Etihad not allowed to launch new routes from Dublin to US but instead they can only use Dublin as a stopover and not pick up any passengers or something like that?

    Wouldn't have a clue but DY are flying B787 to the US from CPH, OSL and ARN to the US under a temporary Irish licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Wouldn't have a clue but DY are flying B787 to the US from CPH, OSL and ARN to the US under a temporary Irish licence.

    The Irish licence has its IATA own code now, DU I believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    MYOB wrote: »
    The Irish licence has its IATA own code now, DU I believe.

    Sorry yeah they do but they won't receive the permanent licence until end of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    Isn't there a restriction on foreign airlines operating in EU airports to fly to US? I thought I read something about Etihad not allowed to launch new routes from Dublin to US but instead they can only use Dublin as a stopover and not pick up any passengers or something like that?

    But why would Etihad want to fly dub to somewhere else they want everything to go through Abu Dhabi so you want to go America. Dub Auh JFK. Can't see them opening up a point to point route if it's not from Auh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭MoeJay


    For Irish AOC, read up on Liberia....

    ...even other Irish registered airlines have said they would move fleet etc. if they could find a more "competitive" regulatory environment...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    Norway is not in the EU, open skies is only between EU countries and the USA. Norwegian wants to fly from lots of EU places to US etc. so it's not covered by open skies so that's why it wants an Irish AOC to be able to do what they want plus they want to pay their CC's much less than the norm in Norway all of which might require them to actually have an Irish route or two rather than just be a paper airline. Possibly to satisfy the IAA and the FAA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    what is/are
    7th freedom rights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    urajoke wrote: »
    Norway is not in the EU, open skies is only between EU countries and the USA. Norwegian wants to fly from lots of EU places to US etc. so it's not covered by open skies so that's why it wants an Irish AOC to be able to do what they want plus they want to pay their CC's much less than the norm in Norway all of which might require them to actually have an Irish route or two rather than just be a paper airline. Possibly to satisfy the IAA and the FAA.
    According to this,Norway is in open skies.

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE75K4RA20110621?irpc=932


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    whitebriar wrote: »

    Yes between Norway and anywhere in the US not a Norwegian airline flying from EU to US etc as far as I can tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    For these purposes they are counted as the same as any other EU carrier


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Norwegian quoting possible $69 one way fares US-Europe
    DY hopes to sell $69 one-way tickets to Europe. Europe's third-largest budget airline is considering flights to Edinburgh and Bergen, Norway from U.S. airports that have little to no international service today, such as New York's Westchester County Airport and Connecticut's Bradley International Airport
    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/06/norwegian-air-says-69-flights-from-us-to-europe-likely-by-2017.html


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