Gatland on the Late Late show

dtpc191991 · 25-10-2013 10:06am #1

This should be fun he is going to get his arse kicked.

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1025/482588-gatland-kimberley-walsh-on-late-late/

jamiedav2011 · 25-10-2013 10:09am

dtpc191991 wrote: »

This should be fun he is going to get his arse kicked.

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1025/482588-gatland-kimberley-walsh-on-late-late/

Unless there's someone in the crowd going to do the arse kicking he won't! Tubbers will likely make a half joke about the serious questions I'd wager.

Noopti · 25-10-2013 10:14am

Fair play to Gatland in fairness

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 25-10-2013 10:16am

Noopti wrote: »

Fair play to Gatland in fairness

He's plugging something

Larbre34 · 25-10-2013 10:19am

Gatland can and will justify his position, regardless of how Irish people may feel about it. Tubridy is an impotent interviewer, he positively cringes when he has to ask the hard or uncomfortable questions and the interviewees see that and know they are in charge. Gatland has eaten some of the double-hardest backstards in the game of rugby for brekky so I expect Ryan wont cost him a thought.

They should send him out to Ballymount and let #VinB have a go at haranguing him

Davin Stand · 25-10-2013 10:34am

dtpc191991 wrote: »

This should be fun he is going to get his arse kicked.

http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1025/482588-gatland-kimberley-walsh-on-late-late/

Why should he get his arse kicked. The Lions won the test series. Looks like he picked the right team for the 3rd test after all.

Dravokivich · 25-10-2013 10:55am

Larbre34 wrote: »

They should send him out to Ballymount and let #VinB have a go at haranguing him

Well, I've only seen a few of Vincent's interviews, but he tends not to let someone answer if it's not the answer he's looking for. So Gatland will just do a lot of sitting down in front of the camera.

sydthebeat · 25-10-2013 11:27am

Dravokivich wrote: »

Well, I've only seen a few of Vincent's interviews, but he tends not to let someone answer if it's not the answer he's looking for. to the question he asked. So Gatland will just do a lot of sitting down in front of the camera.

FYP

CatFromHue · 25-10-2013 12:33pm

As long as the band play "Regulate" as he walks on stage I'll be happy!

dtpc191991 · 25-10-2013 12:36pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

As long as the band play "Regulate" as he walks on stage I'll be happy!

Or the Darth Vader theme tune. XD

Losty Dublin · 25-10-2013 12:37pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

As long as the band play "Regulate" as he walks on stage I'll be happy!

What about the theme to Bod?:D

CatFromHue · 25-10-2013 12:40pm

dtpc191991 wrote: »

Or the Darth Vader theme tune. XD

Losty Dublin wrote: »

What about the theme to Bod?:D

Because neither of them were sung by Warren G

dtpc191991 · 25-10-2013 12:56pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Because neither of them were sung by Warren G

I get it now. XD

P_1 · 25-10-2013 12:58pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

He's plugging something

Hmm, when is that Lions DVD out again???

Losty Dublin · 25-10-2013 1:17pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Because neither of them were sung by Warren G

You do realise that the only people who will kop that will be anybody channel hopping or those who have lost their remotes

thebaz · 25-10-2013 1:38pm

I used to like Gatland - but his treatment of BOD seamed bitter - am sure ther was more to it than we know , regardless of winning the test , the dropping of BOD was completly the wrong call to me , the Lions owed him a better send off than , a humilating high profile dropping.

CatFromHue · 25-10-2013 1:42pm

thebaz wrote: »

I used to like Gatland - but his treatment of BOD seamed bitter - am sure ther was more to it than we know , regardless of winning the test , the dropping of BOD was completly the wrong call to me , the Lions owed him a better send off than , a humilating high profile dropping.

I don't understand how it's bitter?

BOD doesn't have any special right to play for the Lions, as ROG didn't have one to play for Ireland. Gatland picked the team that would best suit his tactics and they won. I don't see anything more to it myself.

razorblunt · 25-10-2013 6:47pm

My biggest gripe is dropping BOD entirely,mic an understand from the starting XV but not the squad. Anyway Gatland doesn't care, he did his job.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 25-10-2013 6:55pm

razorblunt wrote: »

My biggest gripe is dropping BOD entirely,mic an understand from the starting XV but not the squad. Anyway Gatland doesn't care, he did his job.

My biggest gripe about him dropping BOD is that it more or less cemented the fact that Gatland never intended on playing rugby on that tour

Which is a real shame considering how much our backs had to offer

Instead he focused on mincing Australia up-front, and only squeaked over the line against an awful Australian side in disarray

razorblunt · 25-10-2013 7:46pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

My biggest gripe about him dropping BOD is that it more or less cemented the fact that Gatland never intended on playing rugby on that tour

Which is a real shame considering how much our backs had to offer

Instead he focused on mincing Australia up-front, and only squeaked over the line against an awful Australian side in disarray

Very true.

mystic86 · 25-10-2013 9:14pm

It's been said a hundred million times (on boards.ie alone) but playing Davies over BOD did not have an influence on the victory.

Furthermore, the fact he didn't just pick Davies to start, but rather dropped BOD from the match day panel completely is an unjustifiable decision, Gatland is one horrible, bitter, biased man.

digzy · 25-10-2013 9:55pm

People need to get over it. He was hired to win rugby matches. Rightly or wrongly he achieved that. I never saw his contract but I doubt there was a clause in it requiring him to uphold the "lions tradition".

The guys a successful coach, best of luck to him. Bod is still a complete ledge, let's move on.

mohawk · 25-10-2013 10:05pm

Ryan let it go. Stop asking about BOD it is cringe-worthy.

allthedoyles · 25-10-2013 10:06pm

Gatland is one horrible, bitter, biased man

TRUE

P_1 · 25-10-2013 10:06pm

Ah can we not let 3rd-test-selection-gate go at this stage lads

durkadurka · 25-10-2013 10:07pm

P_1 wrote: »

Ah can we not let 3rd-test-selection-gate go at this stage lads

Do you honestly think he wasn't going to ask these questions?

mohawk · 25-10-2013 10:09pm

durkadurka wrote: »

Do you honestly think he wasn't going to ask these questions?

Personally I expected him to ask about BOD. Wasn't expecting him to go on and on about it.

P_1 · 25-10-2013 10:10pm

durkadurka wrote: »

Do you honestly think he wasn't going to ask these questions?

Yeah but how many versions of the exact same answer to these questions do we have to hear at this stage

Rightwing · 25-10-2013 10:10pm

A fair enough interview and Gatty came across well. It's clear he has huge time for BOD, maybe much ado about nothing.

NoelJ · 25-10-2013 10:10pm

Ah I missed it. Was anything important said?

Really don't like the man after O'Driscoll and the Farrell incident reported today.

If they were playing NZ or SA he would have lose 3-0.

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:11pm

What Farrell incident?

Hagz · 25-10-2013 10:14pm

.ak wrote: »

What Farrell incident?

Jeez, just read it there. He said that part of the reason he took Andy Farrell as defence coach was to get an idea of how England's patterns would look come the world cup. I thought he might have said it jokingly, but upon inspection he's dead serious.

EDIT: And although he made it seem like the Keith Wood thing was in good humour, it really doesn't read like that at all.

P_1 · 25-10-2013 10:15pm

Hagz wrote: »

Jeez, just read it there. He said that part of the reason he took Andy Farrell as defence coach was to get an idea of how England's patterns would look come the world cup. I thought he might have said it jokingly, but upon inspection he's dead serious.

Feck that's very very dodgy if that's true. I know that the Lions is meant to be about fusing the 4 unions' style of play but that's crossing the line IMO

Rightwing · 25-10-2013 10:18pm

P_1 wrote: »

Feck that's very very dodgy if that's true. I know that the Lions is meant to be about fusing the 4 unions' style of play but that's crossing the line IMO

He's only taking the p!ss, a few gullible English mugs getting wound up.

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:19pm

Forget the BOD thing, that's just ridiculous. He distances himself from the ABs job everyday.

Hagz · 25-10-2013 10:20pm

Rightwing wrote: »

He's only taking the p!ss, a few gullible English mugs getting wound up.

In fairness, I haven't seen the video. But it doesn't read the way you're implying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/10403615/Wales-coach-Warren-Gatland-I-took-Andy-Farrell-on-Lions-tour-to-learn-Englands-secrets-ahead-of-World-Cup.html

P_1 · 25-10-2013 10:23pm

The thing is though, wouldn't he have also given the English an insight to the Welsh attacking setup with the tactics he used in the tour?

durkadurka · 25-10-2013 10:24pm

Here's the actual reason he dropped BOD

http://rugbyonslaught.blogspot.ie/2013/10/gatland-we-dropped-odriscoll-because.html?m=1

This is really worth watching

Rightwing · 25-10-2013 10:25pm

Hagz wrote: »

In fairness, I haven't seen the video. But it doesn't read the way you're implying.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/wales/10403615/Wales-coach-Warren-Gatland-I-took-Andy-Farrell-on-Lions-tour-to-learn-Englands-secrets-ahead-of-World-Cup.html

P_1 wrote: »

The thing is though, wouldn't he have also given the English an insight to the Welsh attacking setup with the tactics he used in the tour?

If he was doing that, he'd be keeping his mouth shut about the reason. The man has to be bigger than that.

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:32pm

durkadurka wrote: »

Here's the actual reason he dropped BOD

http://rugbyonslaught.blogspot.ie/2013/10/gatland-we-dropped-odriscoll-because.html?m=1

This is really worth watching

Interesting.

Can't say I agree with his logic, or the coaching staff in general, I think that's a very one dimensional way of looking at things - just because he made so many tackles it meant they were throwing everything down his channel. The outside center channel is massive. Could it been a case BOD was covering for JD's missed tackles? What about the legs in the last 15 minutes? JD slipped that tackle that let a try in.. I didn't notice anything the same from BOD? Strange comments tbh.

Hagz · 25-10-2013 10:33pm

Rightwing wrote: »

If he was doing that, he'd be keeping his mouth shut about the reason. The man has to be bigger than that.

It's obviously not THE reason, but there's nothing to suggest that it wasn't one of the reasons.

durkadurka · 25-10-2013 10:34pm

.ak wrote: »

Interesting.

Can't say I agree with his logic, or the coaching staff in general, I think that's a very one dimensional way of looking at things - just because he made so many tackles it meant they were throwing everything down his channel. The outside center channel is massive. Could it been a case BOD was covering for JD's missed tackles? What about the legs in the last 15 minutes? JD slipped that tackle that let a try in.. I didn't notice anything the same from BOD? Strange comments tbh.

It's the most interesting thing that has been said about the topic.

thebaz · 25-10-2013 10:34pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

I don't understand how it's bitter?

BOD doesn't have any special right to play for the Lions,

for his service on his 2 first tours , I believe he deserved a proper send off , rather than a humiliating suited cameo - his waltzing over Oz , and that Spear in NZ - deserved more in my mind , than a dropping. so yeah it stank of bitterness to me.

Rightwing · 25-10-2013 10:35pm

Hagz wrote: »

It's obviously not THE reason, but there's nothing to suggest that it wasn't one of the reasons.

Nothing to suggest there was, and nothing to suggest there wasn't indicates it's not much of a scoop.

Hagz · 25-10-2013 10:37pm

Rightwing wrote: »

Nothing to suggest there was, and nothing to suggest there wasn't indicates it's not much of a scoop.

………except there is something to suggest there was…..

I posted an article link to an interview where he literally says it's one of the reasons he picked Farrell……..

It doesn't get more clear cut than that.

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:38pm

thebaz wrote: »

for his service on his 2 first tours , I believe he deserved a proper send off , rather than a humiliating suited cameo - his waltzing over Oz , and that Spear in NZ - deserved more in my mind , than a dropping. so yeah it stank of bitterness to me.

None of the above has anything to do with Gatland... so how is it bitter? Bitter would suggest he was trying to exact some sort of revenge?

No doubt in my mind that Gatland dropped him for rugby reasons. Just the wrong ones. Farrell, Gatland and Howley don't really inspire me as a bunch of great tactical modern coaches.

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:39pm

Although I do hate the fact he keeps referring to the fact he gave BOD his first cap, and was the first coach to drop him. Think he has a bit of a complex going on there, but that's neither here nor there.

Rightwing · 25-10-2013 10:39pm

Hagz wrote: »

………except there is something to suggest there was…..

I posted an article link to an interview where he literally says it's one of the reasons he picked Farrell……..

It doesn't get more clear cut than that.

He could say the same about Sexton and about 20+ other players, pinch of salt stuff.

Hagz · 25-10-2013 10:49pm

Rightwing wrote: »

He could say the same about Sexton and about 20+ other players, pinch of salt stuff.

He didn't and he couldn't. Well he could. But there wouldn't be any logic in your hypothetical situation.

thebaz · 25-10-2013 10:49pm

.ak wrote: »

None of the above has anything to do with Gatland... so how is it bitter? Bitter would suggest he was trying to exact some sort of revenge?

For BOD to get dropped from the Lions, Leinster or Ireland , so publicly ,after all his unbelievable service to all , and knowing the reaction , would strike me that ther was more than just getting dropped for rugby reasons; I dont think we know the full story , probably never will , but i would say ther was more to it than has publicly come out - just my thoughts, as most know things happen within teams , that stay behind closed doors (which is probably a good thing) - but disputes and disagreements within teams , particularly touring teams are very common , certainly from my experience

.ak · 25-10-2013 10:51pm

thebaz wrote: »

For BOD to get dropped from the Lions, Leinster or Ireland , so publicly ,after all his unbelievable service to all , and knowing the reaction , would strike me that ther was more than just getting dropped for rugby reasons; I dont think we know the full story , probably never will , but i would say ther was more to it than has publicly come out - just my thoughts, as most know things happen within teams , that stay behind closed doors (which is probably a good thing) - but disputes and disagreements within teams , particularly touring teams are very common , certainly from my experience

Nah, in all due respect I think you're just looking for a reason to be miffed - which is fair enough, you're totally entitled to it, but these things have a habbit of finding their way out. Someone not so tight lipped in the squad would've said something to somebody and we'd know all about it. Gatland told him over a cup of tea, and that was that. Wrong choice in my mind, and in the video durkadurka posted you could see exactly why he dropped him... Although I think he was wrong, seemed more like he was looking for a scapegoat because he was essentially on the backfoot after the first test.

Gatland on the Late Late show

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