Girl found abandoned outside GPO

Stheno

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/child-found-outside-gpo-may-have-been-smuggled-into-country-29677046.html

I find this story quite shocking, a 14-16 year old girl found wandering around O'Connell St, who may have been smuggled into the country and appears to have suffered severe abuse.

Ihatecuddles-old

Poor girl Im lost for words.

The part about her drawing pictures depicting sexual abuse is heartbreaking.

MadsL

Has boards found anyone to blame yet or should I check back in three pages or so...?

Timmyctc

Could they not have gotten an interpreter in sooner than 10 days after she was found?

dodderangler

What the hell is going on in this country lately.

Stheno

Timmyctc wrote: »

Could they not have gotten an interpreter in sooner than 10 days after she was found?

I think a. the girl was in shock, and b. until she spoke they didn't know what language interpreter was needed?

Timmyctc

Stheno wrote: »

I think a. the girl was in shock, and b. until she spoke they didn't know what language interpreter was needed?

Sorry I interpreted that "unable to speak to officers for several days" as a language barrier. My moustache.

Kaiser D

Timmyctc wrote: »

Sorry I interpreted that "unable to speak to officers for several days" as a language barrier. My moustache.

:D:D

In all seriousness though, I genuinely do hope they catch whoever was responsible for what happened to that child.

Zambia

The more I learn about people the greater respect I gain for my dog.

donvito99

Zambia wrote: »

The more I learn about people the greater respect I gain for my dog.

Doges ar smrt. Doegs nvr du dis. Wee luv doges.

Dublinpato

Zambia wrote: »

The more I learn about people the greater respect I gain for my dog.

I know right!...i thought everyone knew an post are the worst for losing post, should of used FedEx.

Mickey H

Zambia wrote: »

The more I learn about people the greater respect I gain for my dog.

Do ya like dags?

Menas

The good news is that she has been found and getting whatever pathetic protection the state can offer her.
The bad news is that there are many more who have not been found and will continue to be abused.

Omackeral

MadsL wrote: »

Has boards found anyone to blame yet or should I check back in three pages or so...?

You not gonna crack another Maddy joke no? Get off your high horse.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Zambia wrote: »

The more I learn about people the greater respect I gain for my dog.

you mean that species that occasionally eats their own young?

you set a high standard for humanity to reach

Poor girl. I hope she gets all the help she needs to process what's happened to her. It's going to be a long road, but it's possible she can have a full and happy life with help and time.

A cautionary tale for the few who believe that human trafficking only happens in other countries.

MadsL

MadsL wrote: »

Has boards found anyone to blame yet or should I check back in three pages or so...?

Mod

This is a thread about a young girl who has possibly been sexually abused and trafficked into this country. It is not a thread for sh*t stirring and agenda pushing so as you appear to nothing to add on the topic at hand, please do not post in this thread again.

Others; please have some sensitivity on this matter.

Thanks.

mathie

This has led the investigation team to work on the theory that she may have been trafficked into the country by an evil child sex trafficking network.

Eh what?

TeddyTedson

Was I the only one naive enough to think that child trafficking was non existent in this country. :eek:

Maximus Alexander

Takes a lot for me to be affected by news stories since there's so much **** happening every day that it just washes over me. This is heart-breaking though. The poor girl, I can't imagine how ****ing horrifying that must be. I hope she is well taken care of.

Hootanany

One thing puzzling me, How did she get to the GPO without her captives knowing?

Dravokivich

Hootanany wrote: »

One thing puzzling me, How did she get to the GPO without her captives knowing?

It sounds like she may have been discarded.

MadsL

MadsL wrote: »

Has boards found anyone to blame yet or should I check back in three pages or so...?

Yknow, I was going to post something like, "which GPO?", but then I realized that perhaps a snarky comment like that wouldn't belong in a thread about something like this.

Unfortunately it seems that some posters never realize this either.

The poor girl. It sickens me that child trafficking does exist in this country, but I'm not surprised any more. Thankfully she has managed to get away from a life of that and might just have a better life.

Sulla Felix

Dravokivich wrote: »

It sounds like she may have been discarded.

Why would she be discarded I wonder?
Not to be cold-hearted, but she seems to be in good health other than the trauma and the kind of sick fúck that would want to use an underage prostitute is hardly going to have an issue with that.

Dravokivich

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Why would she be discarded I wonder?
Not to be cold-hearted, but she seems to be in good health other than the trauma and the kind of sick fúck that would want to use an underage prostitute is hardly going to have an issue with that.

If she was of no further use to the trafficers, or she became difficult for the people they let use her.

Lollipops23

I read about that yesterday and it sent chills down my spine. Poor thing, she must have been/be terrified. I really hope they find out her story and catch up with the sick f****rs who hurt her and make sure the girl is well looked after.

If they can shed some light on the goings on with regard to sex trafficking (I assume that's what this was, but am open to correction) so that people can get educated.

Hootanany

Dravokivich wrote: »

It sounds like she may have been discarded.

Jebus that is sick

anncoates

At least it's a small mercy that she's not captive anymore.

angelfire9

She may have been discarded because she became too old for her purpose
Poor kid

Hootanany

I just read the comments on the Indos site.
Seems some are saying its a well known scam with Romas in France.
Now that is not my opinion so dont shoot the messenger.

Gambas

This has led the investigation team to work on the theory that she may have been trafficked into the country by an evil child sex trafficking network.

So they have ruled out all the well-meaning child sex trafficking networks?

Son Of A Vidic

There really is a dark subculture out there, that most, if not all of us are totally oblivious to. I hope the young girl gets all the love and support she desperately needs right now. And the scum responsible, well I can only hope they suffer a long, lingering and excruciating painful death someday.

CrazyRabbit

I'm surprised that this isn't even covered on the RTE news website. And their top story...."Eamon Gilmore and Brendan Howlin give 'absolute' support to Health Minister".

Useless site.

As for the girl, I hope she is ok, but...something isn't quite right about this. 10 days without speaking a word? Sounds more like somebody choosing to stay silent.

Sulla Felix

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I'm surprised that this isn't even covered on the RTE news website. And their top story...."Eamon Gilmore and Brendan Howlin give 'absolute' support to Health Minister".

Useless site.

As for the girl, I hope she is ok, but...something isn't quite right about this. 10 days without speaking a word? Sounds more like somebody choosing to stay silent.

Mute maybe?

o1s1n

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

10 days without speaking a word? Sounds more like somebody choosing to stay silent.

Didn't know you became a doctor, congratulations :P

Someone can be in shock and not speak for far longer than 10 days.

syklops

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

As for the girl, I hope she is ok, but...something isn't quite right about this. 10 days without speaking a word? Sounds more like somebody choosing to stay silent.

So she is choosing to stay silent but she is also choosing to draw what happened to her? Try choosing to not talk. Its a lot harder than you think.

If she was left there then it's a strange place to abandon someone if you're a massive criminal although she may have been drawn there by the Spire if she was abandoned somewhere else.

o1s1n

Deleted User wrote: »

If she was left there then it's a strange place to abandon someone if you're a massive criminal although she may have been drawn there by the Spire if she was abandoned somewhere else.

Yeah I'd say she was dropped somewhere far less busy. If she was dropped bang in the city centre it would be caught on CCTV. (hopefully it was!)

Boombastic

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah I'd say she was dropped somewhere far less busy. If she was dropped bang in the city centre it would be caught on CCTV. (hopefully it was!)

there should be cctv. if you own a business or have private cctv cameras hang on to the tapes for that period until more is known.


poor girl. I hope she gets the help she needs and those that abused her are caught

emo72

Could we not send undercover garda into brothels and see if they have kids in there and then pull them out? We would then have the minders caught too?

Sleepy

Gambas wrote: »

So they have ruled out all the well-meaning child sex trafficking networks?

Ruhama finally got sick of being called on their bull**** statistics so decided to try a new kind of PR campaign?

Scary to think of this happening in Ireland alright but is it really that surprising? When prohibition is the government's strategy for dealing with drugs / prostitution it leaves the market to be supplied by criminals who have no qualms about cutting drugs with all sorts or enslaving young women or underage girls to meet the demands of markets that have existed throughout the entire history of mankind.

Sulla Felix

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Why would she be discarded I wonder?
Not to be cold-hearted, but she seems to be in good health other than the trauma and the kind of sick fúck that would want to use an underage prostitute is hardly going to have an issue with that.

She isn't a prostitute.

She's a victim of child sex abuse and possible trafficking.

joes girls

It's all very sad, no young teen should have anything like this in his or her life, it is a sick world we live in:(

Czarcasm

Sleepy wrote: »

Ruhama finally got sick of being called on their bull**** statistics so decided to try a new kind of PR campaign?

I think Sleepy you may have misinterpreted what was meant as sarcasm.

Scary to think of this happening in Ireland alright but is it really that surprising? When prohibition is the government's strategy for dealing with drugs / prostitution it leaves the market to be supplied by criminals who have no qualms about cutting drugs with all sorts or enslaving young women or underage girls to meet the demands of markets that have existed throughout the entire history of mankind.

Changing legislation to accommodate sex work still wouldn't do anything to protect young women and underage girls. As you quite rightly point out - it's a market that has existed throughout the entire history of mankind.

That's neither here nor there though as we really don't know anything about this girl yet so we're only going on supposition. We should wait to see if it can be determined how and why she ended up outside the GPO.

Seachmall

Sleepy wrote: »

Ruhama finally got sick of being called on their bull**** statistics so decided to try a new kind of PR campaign?

Scary to think of this happening in Ireland alright but is it really that surprising? When prohibition is the government's strategy for dealing with drugs / prostitution it leaves the market to be supplied by criminals who have no qualms about cutting drugs with all sorts or enslaving young women or underage girls to meet the demands of markets that have existed throughout the entire history of mankind.

Better legislation of prostitution probably wouldn't affect the market for underage prostitutes.

And I don't think there's anything to suggest this girl was being used as a prostitute.

Seachmall

Seachmall wrote: »

Better legislation of prostitution probably wouldn't affect the market for underage prostitutes.

And I don't think there's anything to suggest this girl was being used as a prostitute.

She was found by a garda who was on patrol in O' Connell Street 10 days ago but had no identification and was unable to speak to officers for several days.

However she drew several pictures which displayed images of her being sexually abused on a bed.

She also drew pictures of men handing over cash to other men.

This has led the investigation team to work on the theory that she may have been trafficked into the country by an evil child sex trafficking network.

No?

CrazyRabbit

o1s1n wrote: »

Didn't know you became a doctor, congratulations :P

Someone can be in shock and not speak for far longer than 10 days.

You can now greet me with "What's up doc?".

Maybe I've just become too sceptical and cynical in my middle age. I know it can happen; it's just extremely rare, even in cases of extreme trauma.

Czarcasm

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

You can now greet me with "What's up doc?".

Maybe I've just become too sceptical and cynical in my middle age. I know it can happen; it's just extremely rare, even in cases of extreme trauma.

Perhaps this is one of those extremely rare cases then? Tbh I don't blame your scepticism, but for different reasons - I'd prefer to read about the actual facts of the case as opposed to reading about it in the media.

April O Neill

This has led the investigation team to work on the theory that she may have been trafficked into the country by an evil child sex trafficking network.

Excellent writing as always there, Indo. :rolleyes:

syklops

April O Neill wrote: »

Excellent writing as always there, Indo. :rolleyes:

As another poster said, compared to all the well meaning sex traffickers.

fivehoursofsky

From what I understand, 65 days in the wilderness will have completely quashed a person's ability to communicate their thoughts (which also become bigger and more 'profound' in this time) to others. (*I heard Mike Spencer Bown on Ray D'arcy say that people don't normally last longer than 65 days, though he himself had done 87)
Two of the fictional movies I have watched about sex-trafficking show the victims being locked in bedrooms for weeks, even months, on end, with food shoved in door and no expectation on her to communicate. I guess this could inspire an indefinite silence, depending on willingness and ability to reintegrate into society.

Also, maybe the place she came from originally wasn't so hot and she doesn't want to take the risk of going back there.

I wonder how this case will affect the behaviours of traffickers to victims who are no longer "of use". They may be more careful than to just discard them on the streets hereafter; will we start finding bodies instead?