Drop out?

pottdry1

Could anybody explain definition of "Drop out" for me?
If student fail his/her first semester, he will face to drop out from college?
or that is yearly system?

Thank you very much

creep

pottdry1 wrote: »

Could anybody explain definition of "Drop out" for me?
If student fail his/her first semester, he will face to drop out from college?
or that is yearly system?

Thank you very much

Drop out refers generally to someone who quit college. You can repeat any exam up to four times I think. You can continue to the following year with one exam failed from each semester but will have to repeat them in the summer. If you failed more, than two in one semester you get a Chance to repeat in the summer and if you fail these you will not be allowed to progress to the next year. You will have to repeat the exams the following year to be allowed to progress

pottdry1

creep wrote: »

Drop out refers generally to someone who quit college. You can repeat any exam up to four times I think. You can continue to the following year with one exam failed from each semester but will have to repeat them in the summer

Thank you for your reply!
I have one more question about it.
Now I study 6 modules in first semester, Is it different to repeat exam if I pass 5 modules and 1 fail or pass 1 module and fail 5 modules?

I wonder if I fail many modules, my repeat exam cost will grow up or I have any other disadvantage?

creep

pottdry1 wrote: »

Thank you for your reply!
I have one more question about it.
Now I study 6 modules in first semester, Is it different to repeat exam if I pass 5 modules and 1 fail or pass 1 module and fail 5 modules?

I wonder if I fail many modules, my repeat exam cost will grow up or I have any other disadvantage?

Repeating one is cheaper but then there is a set rate, doesn't matter if you have two or five. You cannot continue to the following year if you fail more than two exams in a semester if you fail them again in the summer. You will have to repeat them the following year

pottdry1

creep wrote: »

Repeating one is cheaper but then there is a set rate, doesn't matter if you have two or five. You cannot continue to the following year if you fail more than two exams in a semester if you fail them again in the summer. You will have to repeat them the following year

Now i understand! Thank a lot

callaway92

creep wrote: »

Repeating one is cheaper but then there is a set rate, doesn't matter if you have two or five. You cannot continue to the following year if you fail more than two exams in a semester if you fail them again in the summer. You will have to repeat them the following year

Actually a good chance this will be changing ahead of the 2013/14 repeat exams.

Looking likely it will now be €150 per module.

Source: Our course leader.

pottdry1

callaway92 wrote: »

Actually a good chance this will be changing ahead of the 2013/14 repeat exams.

Looking likely it will now be €150 per module.

Source: Our course leader.

Thank you for your coment.
Is repeat exam also repeat Continue Assessment? I heard usually whole my Grades given by C.A grade + exam Grade.
If I got 10% from C.A and 20% from exam, how is it working?

callaway92

pottdry1 wrote: »

Thank you for your coment.
Is repeat exam also repeat Continue Assessment? I heard usually whole my Grades given by C.A grade + exam Grade.
If I got 10% from C.A and 20% from exam, how is it working?

If you have a module that is 100% CA (no exam) and end up failing it, you have to repeat it in the summer. You are given the details in the post or on Moodle of what you have to do and what date you must finish it for.

If you have a module which is CA and an Exam example:

40% in the CA but only 30% in the exam. - Just repeat exam in the summer.

40%+ in both. - Pass both.

30% in CA and 40%+ in Exam - Just repeat CA.

You must pass (get 40%+) in CA and Exam to pass the module. If you do not, you must repeat it next year.

Hope this helps.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

If you have a module that is 100% CA (no exam) and end up failing it, you have to repeat it in the summer. You are given the details in the post or on Moodle of what you have to do and what date you must finish it for.

If you have a module which is CA and an Exam example:

40% in the CA but only 30% in the exam. - Just repeat exam in the summer.

40%+ in both. - Pass both.

30% in CA and 40%+ in Exam - Just repeat CA.

You must pass (get 40%+) in CA and Exam to pass the module. If you do not, you must repeat it next year.




Hope this helps.

So are if say a module was 50/50 exam and ca if I get 20percent in ca and 20percent in exam that is the module passed right?

callaway92

Deleted User wrote: »

So are if say a module was 50/50 exam and ca if I get 20percent in ca and 20percent in exam that is the module passed right?

Ugh, difficult to explain with the percentages.

If you get 40% in both then yes you have passed.

You HAVE TO PASS both to pass the module fully.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Ugh, difficult to explain with the percentages.

If you get 40% in both then yes you have passed.

You HAVE TO PASS both to pass the module fully.

So say if 50 was going for the ca and I got full marks in that but 10 percent out of the 50 in the exams I fail.

Sully

Deleted User wrote: »

So say if 50 was going for the ca and I got full marks in that but 10 percent out of the 50 in the exams I fail.

I'm very confused. You need to get 40% in both to pass both. If you get less than that, you fail and you need to repeat. You can't compensate a CA from an exam, IIRC or visa-versa.

As for the earlier post about charging €150 per exam - an absolute disgrace. Students are hard pressed as it is, not everyone fails an exam on purpose or due to lack of effort. Some of them, just like myself, struggled and had to do the repeats a few of times to get over the line. Penalising students significantly in this way isn't fair and reeks of a way of trying to make more money. €150 is a tough pill to swallow for a lot of students, on top of their already costly experience going to college. Hitting them three or four times will only see them drop out and fail to finish the course.

Sully

Sully wrote: »

I'm very confused. You need to get 40% in both to pass both. If you get less than that, you fail and you need to repeat. You can't compensate a CA from an exam, IIRC or visa-versa.

As for the earlier post about charging €150 per exam - an absolute disgrace. Students are hard pressed as it is, not everyone fails an exam on purpose or due to lack of effort. Some of them, just like myself, struggled and had to do the repeats a few of times to get over the line. Penalising students significantly in this way isn't fair and reeks of a way of trying to make more money. €150 is a tough pill to swallow for a lot of students, on top of their already costly experience going to college. Hitting them three or four times will only see them drop out and fail to finish the course.

Say if you get 80% in the ca which is worth 50% over all would that not mean that you have your 40% to pass the module?

Sully

Deleted User wrote: »

Say if you get 80% in the ca which is worth 50% over all would that not mean that you have your 40% to pass the module?

I'm still lost so I am kinda guessing what you are asking.

You need to pass (40%) CA & an exam to pass a module that's 50/50. Doesn't matter if you get a very high percentage in CA or your exam, you can't compensate.

Sully

Sully wrote: »

I'm still lost so I am kinda guessing what you are asking.

You need to pass (40%) CA & an exam to pass a module that's 50/50. Doesn't matter if you get a very high percentage in CA or your exam, you can't compensate.

Yeah that was what I was asking because the lecturer gave the impression that if you got 50/50 for example in your ca that you could get 0 in your final exam and still pass the module.

Sully

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah that was what I was asking because the lecturer gave the impression that if you got 50/50 for example in your ca that you could get 0 in your final exam and still pass the module.

News to me. We were always told you needed to pass both. Can't see that changing but open to correction. Not a student in WIT so maybe one of the active students can clear it up if its changed.

callaway92

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah that was what I was asking because the lecturer gave the impression that if you got 50/50 for example in your ca that you could get 0 in your final exam and still pass the module.

Sully wrote: »

News to me. We were always told you needed to pass both. Can't see that changing but open to correction. Not a student in WIT so maybe one of the active students can clear it up if its changed.

Ya, as I already tried to explain, you MUST GET 40%+ in both.

If you get 100% in the CA but only 10% in the exam YOU FAIL.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Ya, as I already tried to explain, you MUST GET 40%+ in both.

If you get 100% in the CA but only 10% in the exam YOU FAIL.

Does it differ from course to course? What course are you doing do you mind me asking?

Sully

Deleted User wrote: »

Does it differ from course to course? What course are you doing do you mind me asking?

Its a college wide policy, pretty much.

I did Applied Computing.

Sully

Sully wrote: »

Its a college wide policy, pretty much.

I did Applied Computing.

That's weird our lecturers were very vague but pretty much said the exact opposite to this, I was nearly certain that this had changed. I'll ask my course leader tomorrow again.

Sully

Deleted User wrote: »

That's weird our lecturers were very vague but pretty much said the exact opposite to this, I was nearly certain that this had changed. I'll ask my course leader tomorrow again.

Would seem a very bizarre move. What's to stop students just not bothering studying for an exam, and just putting the work into CA? Or visa-versa.

Let us know what your course leader says and get back to us.

Sully

Sully wrote: »

Would seem a very bizarre move. What's to stop students just not bothering studying for an exam, and just putting the work into CA? Or visa-versa.

Let us know what your course leader says and get back to us.

It will suck if the exam is that important because we must have got the worst lecturer the college has for one of the modules. The rest of the modules are alright a good few people in the class are worrying about on particular module.

pottdry1

callaway92 wrote: »

Ya, as I already tried to explain, you MUST GET 40%+ in both.

If you get 100% in the CA but only 10% in the exam YOU FAIL.

Thank you for your answer!

My course contain lots of practical C.A(Lab work etc...) and it's 40% of my final grade.

I understand that I need 40%+ both of C.A and Exam for pass and if I fail my exam, I need to repeat it. But, if I fail Practical C.A, do I need to do Practical C.A in summer?(It's mean I need to do lab work in summer) or I need another exam or C.A?

callaway92

pottdry1 wrote: »

Thank you for your answer!

My course contain lots of practical C.A(Lab work etc...) and it's 40% of my final grade.

I understand that I need 40%+ both of C.A and Exam for pass and if I fail my exam, I need to repeat it. But, if I fail Practical C.A, do I need to do Practical C.A in summer?(It's mean I need to do lab work in summer) or I need another exam or C.A?

If you fail practical CA (labs etc.) you will repeat them next year with the CA again.

I'm pretty sure I was told last year, that if you got 40% or more of the overall grade via CA, that as long as you went into the exam, you would pass. Don't sit the exam, and you need to do it with the repeats.

Might not sound right, but I am sure I was told this, and not just by some student.

pottdry1

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I was told last year, that if you got 40% or more of the overall grade via CA, that as long as you went into the exam, you would pass. Don't sit the exam, and you need to do it with the repeats.

Might not sound right, but I am sure I was told this, and not just by some student.

Thank you for your reply, i'm new student this year, so i couldn't see your coment

According to your reply, if student do not take 40% in C.A that student cannot take final exam?(If he/she do not get 40%, they automatically repeat and cannot take exam following semester?)

No no. You sit the exam regardless.
What I was told last year, is that you could pass by getting at least 40% from CA (40% of the overall grade), and then going into the final exam, just writing down your student number, course and module details, would allow you to pass the module.
Get 40+% CA and go into the exam - pass
Get 40+% CA and don't go into the exam - fail and repeat.

The best way to be sure of this, is to ask one of your lecturers or ask your course leader.

callaway92

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I was told last year, that if you got 40% or more of the overall grade via CA, that as long as you went into the exam, you would pass. Don't sit the exam, and you need to do it with the repeats.

Might not sound right, but I am sure I was told this, and not just by some student.

This is 100% incorrect.

Tinie

callaway92 wrote: »

Actually a good chance this will be changing ahead of the 2013/14 repeat exams.

Looking likely it will now be €150 per module.

Source: Our course leader.

Damn that is steep.

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

This is 100% incorrect.

No he is right it has been changed last year according to my head of class. Im doing a level seven so maybe honours or business might be different, she did say it has only been done this way since very recently.

Sully

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No he is right it has been changed last year according to my head of class. Im doing a level seven so maybe honours or business might be different, she did say it has only been done this way since very recently.

Seems completely stupid, a backward move imo.

Sully

Sully wrote: »

Seems completely stupid, a backward move imo.

Most of the ca we have is say like three exams throughout the semester and then a final one. So the work still has to be learned I think the point of the new way is someone cant mess up in one exam.

fozz10

im in wit too. as far as im aware in my ca courses that are 50/50 once we average 40 were through. so if you have 40 from ca work, your passed no matter the result of final exam.

pottdry1

fozz10 wrote: »

im in wit too. as far as im aware in my ca courses that are 50/50 once we average 40 were through. so if you have 40 from ca work, your passed no matter the result of final exam.

Thank you for your advise! Then how about if I take more than 40% in exam? can I pass the course?

fozz10

i cant see why not. if a course is worth 50% ca and the final exam50 then thats clearly the case. but ask your lecturer. less pressure on you at final exam thats the part of the point of ca. also my friend is in yr 2 of applied and i remember him telling me how he only needed 5% in his physics at xmas as he had 35 from ca.

fozz10

sorry you would not pass with 40 in final exam you would need 80%(i think that works out). so 100% at final exam is worth 50 overall. 40% in final exam is only worth 40% of your 50%. which is not enough overall.

callaway92

Y'know what'll make this all more understandable?

Just pass your fúcking CA and final exam.

fozz10

spot on.

callaway92 wrote: »

Y'know what'll make this all more understandable?

Just pass your fúcking CA and final exam.