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Anonymous objecting to planning?

  • 18-10-2013 08:30PM
    #1
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I am just looking for some advice re objecting to planning permission for a house, which is due to built opposite my house (rural location)


    Basically a neighbours son bought a 2 acre feild across from my house at the peak of the boom and had intended building a 3400 square foot house and 1700 garage, then the recession hit and the house was never built.


    I have since decided that I do not want my neighbours son building a house next to mine(quite rural location)


    My neighbour has since informed me that the planning permission for the house has expired and that his son now intends to apply for planning permission again.


    When his son does apply for PP again, does anyone know is it possible to anonymously object to the PP, as I don't know if I could publicly object and risk falling out with my neighbour and then have his son build next to me knowing I didn't want him to built.


    For info my neighbour's son and his whole family would be on social welfare as he is not working now, but I gather from my elderly neighbour that he is determined to see his son build on this site I can imagine him supplying monies for planning/building etc. He was granted planning permission first back in 2007, and I now think planning regulations have changed since then as the site is of a daub gley rushy nature, maybe the site might not be suitable to build on.


    Just looking to see if anyone would have advice for someone in my situation.


    Thanks


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  • #2
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    Sorry forgot to mention,

    I'm a farmer and also fear of this now " urban" based man and his family objecting to me spreading slurry or building cow houses in future.


    Thanks again.


  • #3
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    No you can no longer object anonymoously to planning and for a very good reason.
    What's the valid basis for your objection apart for the fact you just don't want him to build there.


  • #4
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    Sorry forgot to mention,

    I'm a farmer and also fear of this now " urban" based man and his family objecting to me spreading slurry or building cow houses in future.


    Thanks again.

    I would presume, as a farmer, you are permitted to spread slurry, maybe subject to some EPA reg's but I am not in farming, and if you need to build Cow Houses, you either have an exemption from planning, or need to apply, same as everyone else.
    So why do you want to object?
    Is it because he is on Social Welfare? Surely not.


  • #5
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Is it because he is on Social Welfare? Surely not.

    Sure seems that way.

    This looks like a case of I want to be able to do anything I want in the countryside but I don't want anyone else doing it.


  • #6
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    martinn123 wrote: »
    I would presume, as a farmer, you are permitted to spread slurry, maybe subject to some EPA reg's but I am not in farming, and if you need to build Cow Houses, you either have an exemption from planning, or need to apply, same as everyone else.
    So why do you want to object?
    Is it because he is on Social Welfare? Surely not.

    The fact he is on social welfare does not bother me, sure half the country is on the dole as they say.

    I have been living in my location for over 30 years,
    For privacy reasons mostly it's a very quiet road I live on.


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  • #7
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    The fact he is on social welfare does not bother me, sure half the country is on the dole as they say.

    I have been living in my location for over 30 years,
    For privacy reasons mostly it's a very quiet road I live on.

    Did he apply for permission for the 3400 Sqft house etc, and how did you feel at the time. Before the recession.


  • #8
    john_cappa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Why were you not afraid in 2007?

    Either way sounds like you have no grounds and your objection will mean nothing.


  • #9
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    Yes but I did not object, nor will I object again, unless of course it could have been done anonoymously!!


  • #10
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    The fact he is on social welfare does not bother me, sure half the country is on the dole as they say.

    I have been living in my location for over 30 years,
    For privacy reasons mostly it's a very quiet road I live on.

    If its not a problem then why mention it, what relevance does it have. As others have said it seems like you have no basis for objection unless you can provide any further info.
    How long has this man's father lived in the area.


  • #11
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    You can't object without it going on file, name, reasons, etc. You've no right to privacy, as in if you say the house is too close to yours. You really have no reasons to object, so you just have to grin and bear it. You'd never know, it may be the best thing ever to happen to you.


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  • #12
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    Yes but I did not object, nor will I object again, unless of course it could have been done anonoymously!!

    If your not willing to object in person then you clearly have no valid grounds for objection.


  • #13
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »

    I have been living in my location for over 30 years,
    For privacy reasons mostly it's a very quiet road I live on.

    Well if it were me, I'd say good luck with your application, if you build a house as it's such a quiet road, I will drop you over a few pints of milk, from my cows, maybe an egg or two, if you keep chickens, I will keep an eye on your kids as they walk home from the School Bus, and if a Hi/Ace. Van appears in your yard I will investigate.
    In return, if I have a problem with a beast calving at 3am, I will ring you, and know you will help me out.


    But that's just me.......


  • #14
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    hexosan wrote: »
    If its not a problem then why mention it, what relevance does it have. As others have said it seems like you have no basis for objection unless you can provide any further info.
    How long has this man's father lived in the area.

    It was mentioned because are the banks going to lend someone on SW to build a house??,

    I personally can not seeing him building the house as he's in his 40's, worked in the building trade, his wife is housewife and they have a young family,

    That's why I can't see someone in his situation building a house.


  • #15
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Well if it were me, I'd say good luck with your application, if you build a house as it's such a quiet road, I will drop you over a few pints of milk, from my cows, maybe an egg or two, if you keep chickens, I will keep an eye on your kids as they walk home from the School Bus, and if a Hi/Ace. Van appears in your yard I will investigate.
    In return, if I have a problem with a beast calving at 3am, I will ring you, and know you will help me out.


    But that's just me.......

    You sound like the perfect neighbour, but unfortunately this man is not a farmer.


  • #16
    murrayp4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    What would your objection be based on?


  • #17
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    It was mentioned because are the banks going to lend someone on SW to build a house??,

    I personally can not seeing him building the house as he's in his 40's, worked in the building trade, his wife is housewife and they have a young family,

    That's why I can't see someone in his situation building a house.

    Wether or not the man can finance the build is his business and his alone.

    Is he from the area all his life, how far is his home place from this site.


  • #18
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    It was mentioned because are the banks going to lend someone on SW to build a house??,

    I personally can not seeing him building the house as he's in his 40's, worked in the building trade, his wife is housewife and they have a young family,

    That's why I can't see someone in his situation building a house.

    Maybe he got a grant from Europe like all farmers do!

    Or am I just stereotyping like you.


  • #19
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,341 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    It was mentioned because are the banks going to lend someone on SW to build a house??,

    I personally can not seeing him building the house as he's in his 40's, worked in the building trade, his wife is housewife and they have a young family,

    That's why I can't see someone in his situation building a house.

    He could have a bag of cash from selling drugs to kids
    He don't need a job then.


  • #20
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    michael999999 wrote: »
    Maybe he got a grant from Europe like all farmers do!

    Or am I just stereotyping like you.


    How is this relevant to the tread???


  • #21
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    You sound like the perfect neighbour, but unfortunately this man is not a farmer.

    I was referring to you, as a good neighbour, not surprised you missed that.


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  • #22
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    hexosan wrote: »
    Wether or not the man can finance the build is his business and his alone.

    Is he from the area all his life, how far is his home place from this site.


    He would live ~ 100 miles from the site.


  • #23
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    How is this relevant to the tread???

    Because you said that you don't think he can afford to build the house because he's on the dole. A bit of a stereotype really, maybe when he was working he saved he's money.


  • #24
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    He would live ~ 100 miles from the site.

    I though you originally said this man was a neighbour.


  • #25
    Dr. Sh1te
    Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Dr. Sh1te


    hexosan wrote: »
    I though you originally said this man was a neighbour.

    His father is a neighbour.


  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    His father is a neighbour.
    Is his father leaving him property in the area? Does he own the house he's living in now? They may be reasons the planners may turn down his application, but still not reasons for you to object.


  • #27
    d9oiu2wk07blr5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭d9oiu2wk07blr5


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    It was mentioned because are the banks going to lend someone on SW to build a house??,

    I personally can not seeing him building the house as he's in his 40's, worked in the building trade, his wife is housewife and they have a young family,

    That's why I can't see someone in his situation building a house.

    The DSP could start to ask where he got the money to build a house if he's still on JA.


  • #28
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    Dr. Sh1te wrote: »
    His father is a neighbour.

    How long has his father lived in the area.

    I assume if you had kids you'd like to have them living close to you if it was an option.


  • #29
    martinn123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    hexosan wrote: »
    How long has his father lived in the area.

    I assume if you had kids you'd like to have them living close to you if it was an option.

    Did you really" thank" that abusive post ?


  • #30
    littleredspot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    Op, whilst not agreeing with your mindset, I can see where you're coming from. Whether or not you could anonymously object doesn't really matter though unless you have a very good reason. "I don't want him there" thankfully isn't a good reason for a planning application to be turned down.

    If you speak to someone who knows about the planning system in your area (eg an architect) they could look at the plans and perhaps find something more concrete to object on, eg sightline at the entrance, or the septic tank/ drainage issues (they've got stricter about these since the last planning permission I believe.) They may even be able to object on your behalf, keeping your name out of it.

    That said the fact that there was a previous planning permission for a larger house will work against you. Also I'd imagine the house will be built directly by the guy while staying at his parents, possibly with savings or loans, and really that's none of your business.


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  • #31
    hexosan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭hexosan


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Did you really" thank" that abusive post ?

    In error & corrected


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