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Forum 'redirection' is or is not backseat modding?

  • 17-10-2013 11:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭


    I have to say I do have a gripe with posts in AH that whine about posts not being in the regional forums. Surely if an event has made the national papers then it is a national event/topic?

    Why is whining about a thread about something that happens in Dublin and posting things like "Dublin forum" or "who cares about Dublin" or "try the Dublin forum" not backseat modding and against the charter?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    It depends on how it's done, I think.

    I've pointed out a few people should post in other forums and usually give a link. I'm trying to be helpful.

    But yeah, if you're saying it to be a dick then I think it should be against the rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    I think it depends on the context. For example, "Where can I get a Where's Wally costume in Dublin?" should be in the Dublin Forum. "Where's good to drink in Dublin?", "Where's The Pint in Dublin?" and "Good Italian food in Dublin?" also belong in the Dublin forum. Things like the redesign of the ESB monstrosity, work up Grafton Street, putting those stupid concrete blocks outside Dublin Castle, so on, are a National thing, despite being in Dublin. The difference is the first are things people in Dublin could better answer, the second is a whole lot of money being spent, most times unnecessarily, and the nature of Irish heritage. I wouldn't say it's backseat modding, but there you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    It depends on how it's done, I think.

    I've pointed out a few people should post in other forums and usually give a link. I'm trying to be helpful.

    But yeah, if you're saying it to be a dick then I think it should be against the rules.

    Being helpful is very clear. Hey OP you might get more responses and help in the Mushroom forum etc.

    What is dickish in my view is undermining a thread by either the "Dublin forum" response or "The world doesn't revolve around Dublin" chip on shoulder. I do think mods should have zero tolerance for that as backseat modding and wilfully ignoring the report button in order to have a dig at the OP.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    MadsL wrote: »
    Being helpful is very clear. Hey OP you might get more responses and help in the Mushroom forum etc.

    What is dickish in my view is undermining a thread by either the "Dublin forum" response or "The world doesn't revolve around Dublin" chip on shoulder. I do think mods should have zero tolerance for that as backseat modding and wilfully ignoring the report button in order to have a dig at the OP.

    A lot of such threads have been closed out by AH mods with a similar tone.


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    I assume that this is to do with the ESB building one. Truth is that it doesn't affect the rest of Ireland, just Dublin. You claim it's a terrible building, but there's terrible buildings in Galway, in Cork, in other places. If a topic gets created in AH, you can be damned sure it'll be either closed or moved to it's regional forum. Why should things in Dublin be exempt from this?

    If you allow threads like that to stay just because they're in the Capital city, then you have to allow other cities too, otherwise the regional forums become pointless.

    Also I would like to add that people would often post in AH, simply because it has more traffic. The regional forums, even the Dublin one, tend to be slow at the best of times. Is this not against boards.ie rules?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I assume that this is to do with the ESB building one. Truth is that it doesn't affect the rest of Ireland, just Dublin. You claim it's a terrible building, but there's terrible buildings in Galway, in Cork, in other places. If a topic gets created in AH, you can be damned sure it'll be either closed or moved to it's regional forum. Why should things in Dublin be exempt from this?

    If you allow threads like that to stay just because they're in the Capital city, then you have to allow other cities too, otherwise the regional forums become pointless.

    Also I would like to add that people would often post in AH, simply because it has more traffic. The regional forums, even the Dublin one, tend to be slow at the best of times. Is this not against boards.ie rules?
    It's in the AH charter.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Surely the Art & Architecture forum would be more suited than the Dublin one.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Having zero tolerance policies never work - with the exception of things like bullying etc of course and even then there's a lot more involved that just handing out cards on a whim.

    If we cracked down every time someone suggested another forum, we would have a feedback thread about how heavy handed we were. Zero tolerance would have to mean just that - so helpful posts would certainly need to be included.

    If we had a zero tolerance policy, posts like this would need to be actioned too.

    And this, by your description above, would almost certainly be backseat modding - (not to mention pretty patronising to a brand new poster).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs



    And this, by your description above, would almost certainly be backseat modding - (not to mention pretty patronising to a brand new poster).
    Most epic burn award goes to Whoops!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So it seems that the OP has a chip on their shoulder when it comes to issues about Dublin but finds it OK to do exactly what they're complaining about to others? Hypocrite much?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I suppose as it's about the ESB building and not a more general topic, it could be seen as a Dublin only concern, but it's hardly anything to get worked up over by getting into a posting battle. By replying your just encouraging it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    I think there should be 'zero tolerance' on dull, boring, mundane, not interesting, tedious, drab threads posted on After Hours that have a perfectly suitable dull, boring, mundane, not interesting, tedious, drab forum to go in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Having zero tolerance policies never work - with the exception of things like bullying etc of course and even then there's a lot more involved that just handing out cards on a whim.

    If we cracked down every time someone suggested another forum, we would have a feedback thread about how heavy handed we were. Zero tolerance would have to mean just that - so helpful posts would certainly need to be included.

    If we had a zero tolerance policy, posts like this would need to be actioned too.

    How is telling someone who has a problem with my posts report them backseat modding? :confused:
    And this, by your description above, would almost certainly be backseat modding - (not to mention pretty patronising to a brand new poster).

    I'll take the burn and I am applying sudocrem as we speak.
    In fairness not that hard in my boards history to find something to hang me...
    ...and don't we have a rule about trawling a posters history and bringing in posts from other threads ;) :pac:

    You missed the deliberately overly patronising tone for comedic effect, (probably because it wasn't funny) so more of a humour fail. But that post was at least leading the poster to a more appropriate forum.

    The problem I am talking about is pissing all over a thread just in order to piss over a thread. No-one is even trying to be funny or helpful, just being a dick because they don't like the thread. And I'm sure I have probably been just as dickish in the same way in my posting history before anyone runs off to check, it doesn't make it OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I think there should be 'zero tolerance' on dull, boring, mundane, not interesting, tedious, drab threads posted on After Hours that have a perfectly suitable dull, boring, mundane, not interesting, tedious, drab forum to go in.

    It's not like the thread got the interest level of 90 replies or 104 poll responses or anything...oh wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Having zero tolerance policies never work

    :confused:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Meh, helpfully pointing out the right forum with a link and a reasonable explanation is fine in my eyes, posts along the lines of 'go away to x forum' are a bit dickish though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I opened this thread mainly because it always seems to be Dublin-centric threads that take hammering and the most moaning (you rarely see a "Take it to the UK forum" comment) but also to give the two poster moaning in the ESB thread somewhere to make comment and even provided a handy link.

    Posts by those users in this thread: 0

    That says a lot imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MadsL wrote: »
    :confused:

    Yore Ma
    Blast it with piss
    Bullying
    Sl*ne G*rl
    Grammar Nazi
    Racism
    Sexism

    etc

    The difference is that those are not subjective. The line between directing someone to a more appropriate forum to be helpful and doing it to be a d*ck is too thin. You claim the one you posted was a failed attempt at comedy by being overly patronising. Others could see it as just being intentionally patronising. Some who were intentionally patronising might claim they were only joking after being actioned for it. Some mods might read it one way and the other mods read it the other way.

    Some rules simply cannot be black or white. This is one of them. A zero tolerance policy for this would never work, and making something like this so specific with a zero tolerance policy is overboard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Penn wrote: »
    The difference is that those are not subjective. The line between directing someone to a more appropriate forum to be helpful and doing it to be a d*ck is too thin. You claim the one you posted was a failed attempt at comedy by being overly patronising. Others could see it as just being intentionally patronising. Some who were intentionally patronising might claim they were only joking after being actioned for it. Some mods might read it one way and the other mods read it the other way.

    Some rules simply cannot be black or white. This is one of them. A zero tolerance policy for this would never work, and making something like this so specific with a zero tolerance policy is overboard.

    Fair enough.

    I see the blurred line now.

    However, at the moment there is carte blanche to piss over a thread in this manner and that thread ended up with two people doing the pissing. I'm sure I am not the only one who gets annoyed by it.

    Could we have perhaps a guideline in the charter that defines it as trolling/backseat modding (or dickish) and leave the severity of the infraction or wrist-slap up to the mods?

    Or do you not see a problem with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If you feel a post needs mod attention, report it and the mods will have a look over it. There are already several rules in the forum charter and site-wide rules which it could fall under (Backseat modding / Don't be a d*ck / Discretion of the moderator) depending on how it's worded and several other factors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Penn wrote: »
    If you feel a post needs mod attention, report it and the mods will have a look over it. There are already several rules in the forum charter and site-wide rules which it could fall under (Backseat modding / Don't be a d*ck / Discretion of the moderator) depending on how it's worded and several other factors.

    I don't think I have ever seen anyone infracted or warned for it though...what would be the point in reporting posts if no-one has ever been infracted??

    If I started a thread on moving statues in Co. Clare in AH and someone came along and posted "Clare forum
    >"

    If I reported that, would you or other mods infract/warn the poster?

    That poster probably feels they have done nothing wrong, and it ends up in DRP on the precedent. No-one has been infracted before, why now etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MadsL wrote: »
    I don't think I have ever seen anyone infracted or warned for it though...what would be the point in reporting posts if no-one has ever been infracted??

    If I started a thread on moving statues in Co. Clare in AH and someone came along and posted "Clare forum
    >"

    If I reported that, would you or other mods infract/warn the poster?

    That poster probably feels they have done nothing wrong, and it ends up in DRP on the precedent. No-one has been infracted before, why now etc etc.

    That example just highlights what we're trying to say. How do you interpret "Clare forum
    >"? Is the poster trying to be helpful? Is the poster backseat modding? Is the poster doing it intentionally to annoy the OP? Is the OP a new poster who didn't know there's a Clare forum? Does the thread actually belong in the Clare forum?

    That's why it can't be written into the charter. There are too many variables to consider, and leeway should always be given where possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    It's not like the thread got the interest level of 90 replies or 104 poll responses or anything...oh wait.

    Eh, that doesn't actually carry much weight when you yourself are responsible for about a third of the posts on the thread and another third are there because of arguing over whether the thread is in the right forum or not.

    To begin a thread here calling for a 'zero tolerance' approach to something you have been guilty in the past few weeks yourself of is crass at best and is trying to sabotage the forum at worst. I'm going to assume it's the former.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Eh, that doesn't actually carry much weight when you yourself are responsible for about a third of the posts on the thread and another third are there because of arguing over whether the thread is in the right forum or not.

    103 of the poll responses are not mine. That's a reasonable level of AH engagement for a serious thread.
    To begin a thread here calling for a 'zero tolerance' approach to something you have been guilty in the past few weeks yourself of is crass at best and is trying to sabotage the forum at worst. I'm going to assume it's the former.

    Hang on, you might be lucky enough to have a blemish free record in your three months here (although I suspect you may have been on boards before :p) but over a much longer time span I have been infracted on boards for various reasons. Now, whilst I have argued my point on occasion (well, a lot :o) with the mods about why I shouldn't be infracted, and taken a couple of things to DRP - I still agree with the rule of law (Mod?) on boards.

    Just because you break a law doesn't mean you want all laws revoked, nor that you believe you shouldn't be punished. Zero tolerance would also keep my behaviour in check.

    As for your "sabatoge" comment, you've lost me. Why does suggesting that certain forum behaviour should be moderated (of which I have been guilty) = sabotage??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Penn wrote: »
    That example just highlights what we're trying to say. How do you interpret "Clare forum
    >"? Is the poster trying to be helpful? Is the poster backseat modding? Is the poster doing it intentionally to annoy the OP? Is the OP a new poster who didn't know there's a Clare forum? Does the thread actually belong in the Clare forum?

    That's why it can't be written into the charter. There are too many variables to consider, and leeway should always be given where possible.

    A straightforward format rule might solve the problem.

    You are allowed to post the following

    And then...You are not allowed to whinge at the OP and be a dick.
    Dublin forum tbh
    Dublin forum
    >
    GTFO to the Jackeen forum
    Who cares about Dublin etc...

    and so forth.

    Would that be hard to enforce?


    I don't think I'm the only one who finds it annoying judging by comments above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    103 of the poll responses are not mine. That's a reasonable level of AH engagement for a serious thread.

    If I am allowed, I will start a thread in AH's now with a poll asking 'do you prefer the colour brown or the colour grey' and I will bet you a 6 month self imposed ban from the feedback forum that my thread will get more poll responses. :pac:
    MadsL wrote: »
    Hang on, you might be lucky enough to have a blemish free record in your three months here (although I suspect you may have been on boards before :p) but over a much longer time span I have been infracted on boards for various reasons. Now, whilst I have argued my point on occasion (well, a lot :o) with the mods about why I shouldn't be infracted, and taken a couple of things to DRP - I still agree with the rule of law (Mod?) on boards.

    Just because you break a law doesn't mean you want all laws revoked, nor that you believe you shouldn't be punished. Zero tolerance would also keep my behaviour in check.

    As for your "sabatoge" comment, you've lost me. Why does suggesting that certain forum behaviour should be moderated (of which I have been guilty) = sabotage??

    The word 'zero tolerance' should be reserved for blatant racism and re reg trolls and shills and that type of thing. If you have such a problem with people 'pissing all over' your thread then post it in a 'serious' forum. The smart answers that were posted in your thread stopped me from being dragged into the vortex of tedium that it was. :)


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,773 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    If ever there was a thread made for cat pics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    If ever there was a thread made for cat pics.

    Oh look, the cloak of mod invincibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    If I am allowed, I will start a thread in AH's now with a poll asking 'do you prefer the colour brown or the colour grey' and I will bet you a 6 month self imposed ban from the feedback forum that my thread will get more votes. :pac:

    AH is not a popularity contest. I only brought up the number of votes to show that 103 user were interested enough to vote.

    Uninteresting threads sink to the next page and so on, that's how AH works, unless a mod closes them as obviously stupid. Daddy or chips polls like you suggest above would be closed by the mods as a pointless poll so you would probably lose that bet.

    Anyway, we are not discussing how interesting the thread was, we are discussing a form of dickish behaviour.
    The word 'zero tolerance' should be reserved for blatant racism and re reg trolls and shills and that type of thing. If you have such a problem with people 'pissing all over' your thread than post it in a 'serious' forum.
    Very well. How about "not much tolerance" for "pissing all over" threads.
    At the moment it appears that there is abundant tolerence. The argument, or rather question I'm asking is if it should have any measure tolerated. We can argue about the degree of tolerance later.
    The smart answers that were posted in your thread stopped me from being dragged into the vortex of tedium that it was. :)

    Is there a shortage of threads on AH or something, or a problem with your new thread button?


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  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,773 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    MadsL wrote: »
    Oh look, the cloak of mod invincibility.
    Conspiracy Theories forum
    >


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Just my 2c here. There's no need to be adding yet more rules (feck knows the place has enough of them already) for something that any mod with a decent bit of cop on can solve fairly handily. Are some of the 'feck off to Dublin' posts annoying, yes they can be but there's no sense in having a big song and dance over them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    P_1 wrote: »
    Just my 2c here. There's no need to be adding yet more rules (feck knows the place has enough of them already) for something that any mod with a decent bit of cop on can solve fairly handily. Are some of the 'feck off to Dublin' posts annoying, yes they can be but there's no sense in having a big song and dance over them

    To my knowledge they have never been infracted, I have never seen that happen anyway.

    Most people find it annoying, and the temptation to be a condescending dick is something even I (as perfect as I am :P) fall prey to.

    If ignored as they generally are, the user gets away with being a dick. If challenged they derail the thread into a justification of the thread being in the forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    AH is not a popularity contest. I only brought up the number of votes to show that 103 user were interested enough to vote.

    Uninteresting threads sink to the next page and so on, that's how AH works, unless a mod closes them as obviously stupid. Daddy or chips polls like you suggest above would be closed by the mods as a pointless poll so you would probably lose that bet.

    Anyway, we are not discussing how interesting the thread was, we are discussing a form of dickish behaviour.


    Very well. How about "not much tolerance" for "pissing all over" threads.
    At the moment it appears that there is abundant tolerence. The argument, or rather question I'm asking is if it should have any measure tolerated. We can argue about the degree of tolerance later.



    Is there a shortage of threads on AH or something, or a problem with your new thread button?

    Boards is probably the most heavily moderated website I've come across on the interwebs and you're saying that it should be moderated even more heavily because you expect only serious answers from a tedious thread posted in one of the least serious forums on the website.

    Tá me confused mór.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    To my knowledge they have never been infracted, I have never seen that happen anyway.

    Most people find it annoying, and the temptation to be a condescending dick is something even I (as perfect as I am :P) fall prey to.

    If ignored as they generally are, the user gets away with being a dick. If challenged they derail the thread into a justification of the thread being in the forum.

    But being a 'dick' is subjective in how you are portraying the meaning to be. In reality, (I assume) that rule is there so people don't abuse each other, say racist crap or start bullying. Being a smarty pants in AH is par for the course, or else I've grossly over estimated my grasp of reading and comprehension.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    MadsL wrote: »

    The problem I am talking about is pissing all over a thread just in order to piss over a thread. No-one is even trying to be funny or helpful, just being a dick because they don't like the thread. And I'm sure I have probably been just as dickish in the same way in my posting history before anyone runs off to check, it doesn't make it OK.
    I'm genuinely shocked that you're still arguing this point after what's been posted above.

    A new member comes on, asks a question and is given that response. That account is closed now. Wonder if it was because of the reception given after their first thread?

    You're basically saying "this is out of order despite the fact that I've done it myself"

    Sorry lad but your point IMHO has lost all credibility.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    I've seen a post or two infracted (warned? Whatever is the yellow card) for the stuff like dickish "redirecting" posts.

    At the end of the day it's not that big of a deal. I mean unless you have the same people repeating it in every thread to do with a Dublin/Cork/whatever thread it's not that much of an issue.

    It'd be nice to stop it completely but this is AH and you're gonna get a few smart people in the first page or so.
    Boards is probably the most heavily moderated website I've come across on the interwebs

    Really? I've come across far worse. Especially ones that don't really give you an avenue to talk about why a mod said/did something.

    I get that in the DRP a lot of the mods/admins seem to be fairly stubborn at times with sticking to upholding cards/bans but for the most part they explain why it happened which is a lot more than other sites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    MugMugs wrote: »
    I'm genuinely shocked that you're still arguing this point after what's been posted above.

    A new member comes on, asks a question and is given that response. That account is closed now. Wonder if it was because of the reception given after their first thread?

    You're basically saying "this is out of order despite the fact that I've done it myself"

    Sorry lad but your point IMHO has lost all credibility.

    You have never been infracted? Seriously? Or never gotten a speeding ticket?

    So yes, my view, having been on the receiving end recently has changed. Is there a problem with that?

    I'm not the only one posting that this behaviour is annoying am I?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    MugMugs wrote: »
    A new member comes on, asks a question and is given that response. That account is closed now. Wonder if it was because of the reception given after their first thread?

    Should I have been infracted for the post that whoopsadaisy pointed out?

    If yes, I rest my case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Really? I've come across far worse. Especially ones that don't really give you an avenue to talk about why a mod said/did something.

    I get that in the DRP a lot of the mods/admins seem to be fairly stubborn at times with sticking to upholding cards/bans but for the most part they explain why it happened which is a lot more than other sites.

    Do you think Boards.ie is not heavily moderated?

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it probably adds to it being one of the best discussion sites all in all.

    I'm saying asking for 'zero tolerance' over smarty pants replies in one of the least serious forums on here to me seems rather strange at best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Do you think Boards.ie is not heavily moderated?

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it probably adds to it being one of the best discussion sites all in all.

    I'm saying asking for 'zero tolerance' over smarty pants replies in one of the least serious forums on here to me seems strange at best, and kinda 'd###ish' at worst.

    Wait. I'm being kinda dickish for talking about annoying forum behaviour in Feedback now?? At least I have moved on from sabotage.

    So far in this thread I've been accused of being a hypocrite, a dick, a bore, a saboteur, being the cause of users closing accounts, and been baited by a mod. :D:pac:
    I am in Feedback right? I didn't click back into AH by mistake??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Do you think Boards.ie is not heavily moderated?

    I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it probably adds to it being one of the best discussion sites all in all.

    I'm saying asking for 'zero tolerance' over smarty pants replies in one of the least serious forums on here to me seems rather strange at best.

    I wouldn't say heavily moderated. I'd say there's a lot of rules but a lot of things is left up to the mods. I mean I've been on sites where if I was obviously joking with you and called you stupid for getting something really obvious wrong (like I dunno, you say there's 20 letters in the English alphabet) I'd have the post deleted.

    I don't think there's much of a zero tolerance on anything other than offensive stuff like porn or the likes and not being able to discuss ongoing court cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Lacerda


    MadsL wrote: »
    I have to say I do have a gripe with posts in AH that whine about posts not being in the regional forums. Surely if an event has made the national papers then it is a national event/topic?

    Why is whining about a thread about something that happens in Dublin and posting things like "Dublin forum" or "who cares about Dublin" or "try the Dublin forum" not backseat modding and against the charter?

    If call it moddycoddling :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    Wait. I'm being kinda dickish for talking about annoying forum behaviour in Feedback now?? At least I have moved on from sabotage.

    So far in this thread I've been accused of being a hypocrite, a dick, a bore, a saboteur, being the cause of users closing accounts, and been baited by a mod. :D:pac:
    I am in Feedback right? I didn't click back into AH by mistake??

    I ninja edited the 'd###ish' part as I didn't want to come across as mean. I'm just annoyed that you're arguing for a 'zero tolerance' approach to AH when it's by far and away the most enjoyable forum on this site.

    Throw in a few more bans for this and cards for that and you'll turn it into a overly sanitised dullfest and it'll be all the worse for it.

    From my point of view, I see you arguing to make the forum worse and to follow rules that even you can't/don't follow. Do you not think that that is odd no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Lacerda wrote: »
    If call it moddycoddling :)

    Love it. Let's make this a thing.

    Whole new feedback thread..."we porpose the adoption of the word moddycoddling as description of a backseat modding behaviour worthy of infraction"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    MadsL wrote: »
    Love it. Let's make this a thing.

    Whole new feedback thread..."we porpose the adoption of the word moddycoddling as description of a backseat modding behaviour worthy of infraction"

    You should probably start a new thread.
    Just mollycoddling you is all. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    I ninja edited the 'd###ish' part as I didn't want to come across as mean. I'm just annoyed that you're arguing for a 'zero tolerance' approach to AH when it's by far and away the most enjoyable forum on this site.

    Throw in a few more bans for this and cards for that and you'll turn it into a overly sanitised dullfest and it'll be all the worse for it.

    We have plenty of rules already, it is by far the most cliquey forum on boards, with regard to bizarre phrases and memes - some of which are permitted, others which will get you a card. I don't thik that has sanitised it, it has prevented it becoming The Thunderdome.
    From my point of view, I see you arguing to make the forum worse and to follow rules that even you can't/don't follow. Do you not think that that is odd no?

    How do I follow a rule that doesn't exist. More importantly how do I break a rule that doesn't exist. That in hindsight I (and others) can see my previous behaviour wasn't appropriate doesn't negate the argument, it strengthens it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    MadsL wrote: »
    We have plenty of rules already, it is by far the most cliquey forum on boards, with regard to bizarre phrases and memes - some of which are permitted, others which will get you a card. I don't thik that has sanitised it, it has prevented it becoming The Thunderdome.



    How do I follow a rule that doesn't exist. More importantly how do I break a rule that doesn't exist. That in hindsight I (and others) can see my previous behaviour wasn't appropriate doesn't negate the argument, it strengthens it.

    Yore Ma
    Blast it with piss
    Bullying
    Sl*ne G*rl
    Grammar Nazi
    Racism
    Sexism

    You posted that list on the first page. They're banned for simple and obvious reasons. Most would agree that they cross a line.

    You're saying there should be zero tolerance applied to smarty pants replies about where a thread should be or not. I think that is silly, pointless and will detract from the forum as it currently is. I don't really have anything more to add other than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    MadsL, you seem to be making far too much of this. If something annoys you just try to ignore it. You'd only stress yourself and others out otherwise. Remember it is just the internet afterall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    P_1 wrote: »
    MadsL, you seem to be making far too much of this. If something annoys you just try to ignore it.

    I generally do. But I don't see why, when it annoys others as well we cannot bring it up with the mods for consideration - that's the point of feedback.
    You'd only stress yourself and others out otherwise. Remember it is just the internet afterall

    I'm not stressed. Quite the contrary. Others seem to object to more rules though...and I have argued myself for not banning 'thinly veiled'.

    My view however is that there is little need to be pointing a seasoned user at other forums, it is simply done for annoyance, I mean it is not like I don't know we have a Dublin forum now is it? So, why are people posting "Dublin forum" - in my view just to needle the OP.


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