Krokodil (Crocodile) - Flesh-Eating Drug

kerry4sam

Their is a flesh-eating drug hitting the streets in America at present; how long before it reaches our fair isle?! According to CNN, there have been many confirmed cases of krokodil abuse in Russia and Ukraine already.

You can watch a video of it right here.

So in short, "Krokodil causes serious damage to the veins and soft tissue infections, rapidly followed by gangrene and necrosis".

Anyone know more about this new drug on the markets?

Thanks,
kerry4sam

xXxkorixXx

saw it on a few stalls in moore street today

Jimoslimos

Is it like cake?

Hobbes

end of page contains gore.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/krokodil.asp

debabyjesus

Watched a doc on it a while back. Very easy to assemble and cook and produces a heroin like buzz but much shorter. It effectively melts flesh and muscle

Temptamperu

This must give the most wonderful high if all these people are taking it knowing it eats your flesh.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

they say its in the sewers

Artful_Badger

Nasty stuff by the looks of it.

ScumLord

I'd want to see evidence from someone else other than the American media, they don't have a good track record with reporting actual drug side effects.

goose2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc8ACrVPX4

Arawn

is been around in russia and that for years now

Artful_Badger

Temptamperu wrote: »

This must give the most wonderful high if all these people are taking it knowing it eats your flesh.

Its a third of the price according to the video. But the cases in America involved heroin addicts who say they thought they bought heroin.

Also says there is close to 1 mil users of it in Russia so it's probably not guaranteed to eat you alive. And junkies are not exactly the best when its comes to decision making anyway I dont think.

MonkieSocks

Temptamperu wrote: »

This must give the most wonderful high if all these people are taking it knowing it eats your flesh.

They are probably Suicidal Cannibals :pac:

PizzamanIRL

Documentary on it

lkionm

I saw a conspiracy there somewhere, maybe in here, that this and the bath salts incident are cover up for zombies.

circadian

As far as I know it's been common in Eastern Europe and Siberian Russia for some time because it's cheap and easy to make.

The reason it causes flesh to deteriorate is because of the chemicals used in the process (think Jesse in breaking bad).

It's derived from codeine or other easy to procure opiates, the other ingredients would be easy enough to come by. Especially in that part of the world where red phosphorus is probably manufactured/refined.

As for it coming here, I doubt it. Opiates are controlled here and it'd prove harder to get your hands on chemicals to cook with.

dirtyden

The drug is an Opiate. It does not eat your flesh. The corrosive effect is due to amateur chemists using corrosive reagents to prepare Krokodil form codeine. They have no knowledge of how to effectively clean the opiate from the chemicals used to prepare it and drug users inject what is effectively a mixture of acid and narcotic.

Banjo String

magma69

You know it's a ****ed up drug when there are junkies who won't go near it due to it being too dirty.

goose2005

Codeine is more expensive and harder to get in Ireland tho'.

drunkmonkey

If you use Nurofen Plus rather than that cheap Solpadine crap your legs won't fall off.

Squidgy Black

Codeine isn't really common over here, you won't find many people sipping out of a white foam cup anyways. Because of the cost of getting codeine in over here, it's handier for dealers to just stick with heroin.

KyussBishop

I think paint stripper and petrol are two commonly used ingredients for knocking it together, and it's used by people who have pretty much given up on their life, and just want to get a high no matter what kind of physical harm it does.

Don't go searching up on it, or watching videos of it, unless you want a Goatse-contesting level of revulsion, at seeing live people with flesh literally stripped down to the bone (which, naturally, is pretty shocking).

y0ssar1an22

Hobbes wrote: »

end of page contains gore.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/krokodil.asp

holy moley...thats fooking disgusting. surly cant be caused by a drug?

ScumLord

KyussBishop wrote: »

I think paint stripper and petrol are two commonly used ingredients for knocking it together,

Petrol and worse is used in the production of cocaine.

Mark Twain

It should be legalised so the profits made on selling it are taken out of the hands of the dealers. It might also improve the quality.

Sh1tbag OToole

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd want to see evidence from someone else other than the American media, they don't have a good track record with reporting actual drug side effects.

sure cook up a batch and report back.

this stuff has been around in russia for years. you need pseudo ephedrine to make it, not sure if you can just buy that here

y0ssar1an22

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

sure cook up a batch and report back.

this stuff has been around in russia for years. you need pseudo ephedrine to make it, not sure if you can just buy that here

that must be great stuff...didn't walter white start out using that?

rustedtrumpet

Mark Twain wrote: »

It should be legalised so the profits made on selling it are taken out of the hands of the dealers. It might also improve the quality.

Troll so hard

ScumLord

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

sure cook up a batch and report back.

this stuff has been around in russia for years. you need pseudo ephedrine to make it, not sure if you can just buy that here

Is it made from ephedrine (diet pills as they're known here, you can get them on prescription last I heard)? Or is it made from codeine?

I'm sure it's bad, all the alternative drugs are shyte. But it's hard to tell if this is the actual drug or the method in which it's prepared.

We've all heard these scare stories before and the majority turn out to be false.

I'm just not going to trust tabloid TV to tell me one way or the other.

jimgoose

It's desomorphine. Some powerful tack. It can be synthesised "clean" in the lab, but the street recipe involves some nasty stuff. The problem isn't even the addiction to an opiate an order-of-magnitude more powerful than heroin - it's the way the poor divils end up injecting something like 1950's transmission fluid (only worse) into tissue.

General General

I had been saving heroin 'til last... however, a rethink looks in order.

Shout Dust

Seen a documentary on it too, horrible looking stuff. Doubt it will come here though, it'd be presumably be a worse alternative to heroin, bit like Crystal Meth never took off here

KyussBishop

ScumLord wrote: »

Petrol and worse is used in the production of cocaine.

Yes but, krokodil is knocked together by people at home mostly, who don't get rid of the impurities.

Oranage2

Decriminalize it is what I say!

KTRIC

Leave them to it I say.

ScumLord

KyussBishop wrote: »

Yes but, krokodil is knocked together by people at home mostly, who don't get rid of the impurities.

Cocaine is knocked up by a guy with a still in the middle of a forest. They have tried and tested ways of producing the cocaine but it's not made in a lab, it's as low tech as any other drug out there.

harry Bailey esq

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

sure cook up a batch and report back.

this stuff has been around in russia for years. you need pseudo ephedrine to make it, not sure if you can just buy that here

the pseudo ephedrine is found in many over the counter cough remedies.the eastern Europeans who arrived during the boom brought the preparation methods with them,and distributed the stuff among they're own community.Irish criminals copped on about 3years ago and its fair to say that in large swathes of west Dublin its spreading amongst our native druggies

Pat Mustard

Life is pretty grim when people inject krokodil and dream of heroin.

"You can feel how disgusting it is when you're doing it," he recalls. "You're dreaming of heroin, of something that feels clean and not like poison. But you can't afford it, so you keep doing the krokodil. Until you die."

Gummy Panda

harry Bailey esq wrote: »

the pseudo ephedrine is found in many over the counter cough remedies.the eastern Europeans who arrived during the boom brought the preparation methods with them,and distributed the stuff among they're own community.Irish criminals copped on about 3years ago and its fair to say that in large swathes of west Dublin its spreading amongst our native druggies

I thought heroin is relatively cheap in ireland and that's one of the problems with it

MadsL

circadian wrote: »

The reason it causes flesh to deteriorate is because of the chemicals used in the process (think Jesse in breaking bad).

If that's a spoiler I f.cking hate you.

:mad:

circadian

MadsL wrote: »

If that's a spoiler I f.cking hate you.

:mad:

It was a reference to the start of the show.

ScumLord

The one thing that seems strange about these reports is that there's so few of them. If a drug is causing problems you should see thousands of cases not just a handful. A handful of cases points more to contamination or allergic reactions.

MadsL wrote: »

If that's a spoiler I f.cking hate you.

:mad:

There's no spoiler. I take it you haven't watched the final of breaking bad. What's wrong with you damnit, go home and watch breaking bad until it's over.

hardCopy

ScumLord wrote: »

The one thing that seems strange about these reports is that there's so few of them. If a drug is causing problems you should see thousands of cases not just a handful. A handful of cases points more to contamination or allergic reactions.


There's no spoiler. I take it you haven't watched the final of breaking bad. What's wrong with you damnit, go home and watch breaking bad until it's over.

It could be just an isolated group of junkies who know how to make it up.

harry Bailey esq

hardCopy wrote: »

It could be just an isolated group of junkies who know how to make it up.

that's how it started off here.

jam_mac_jam

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Sh1tbag OToole

ScumLord wrote: »

Is it made from ephedrine (diet pills as they're known here, you can get them on prescription last I heard)? Or is it made from codeine?

I'm sure it's bad, all the alternative drugs are shyte. But it's hard to tell if this is the actual drug or the method in which it's prepared.

We've all heard these scare stories before and the majority turn out to be false.

I'm just not going to trust tabloid TV to tell me one way or the other.

I am not sure which is used now tbh but the flesh-rotting aspects of junkie-made krokodil are well known. Although a properly made batch of desomorphine (?) made by men in white coats in an actual lab using proper ingredients would be much less harmful

DipStick McSwindler

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funt cucker

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

I am not sure which is used now tbh but the flesh-rotting aspects of junkie-made krokodil are well known. Although a properly made batch of desomorphine (?) made by men in white coats in an actual lab using proper ingredients would be much less harmful

I saw a documentary about it last year and I think I recall a junkie saying that they use bleach sometimes when other chemicals are not readily available. He also said they get filthy making it as their is a huge amount of toxic smoke generated from the cooking process.

ZiabR

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

holy moley...thats fooking disgusting. surly cant be caused by a drug?

It is, causes tissue to attack tissue... nasty nasty stuff.

fishy fishy

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd want to see evidence from someone else other than the American media, they don't have a good track record with reporting actual drug side effects.

there was a documentary on a couple of months ago about drugs - it show footage of young men and women on this drug - absolutely scary.