Am I mad

Mrs Garth Brooks

I've been here about 3 weeks on a WHV. I had work coming over for October and maybe more. It turns out its just october and they're not keeping me on. Thats not the issue as I can probably get more work.

But, we have had some hot days and these hot days and its killing me. I drink loads of water. I suffer from migraines and the heat on these hot days and im fcuked. I do have tablets but its only stopping them and not preventing migraines. And sometimes I cant even hold down water.

Will summer be this hot every day? 34 and 37 were the hottest days i've had in 3 weeks.

Do I stick it out for longer in the hope I get used to it? Or go home. I have 2 weeks left with work so what do I do.

I did have a very nice holiday, a short working holiday. Im finding sydney is too big and busy. Its expensive.

Do I go home while I still have most of my savings left? Or stick it out?

Anywhere colder in australia?

d.pop

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I've been here about 3 weeks on a WHV. I had work coming over for October and maybe more. It turns out its just october and they're not keeping me on. Thats not the issue as I can probably get more work.

But, we have had some hot days and these hot days and its killing me. I drink loads of water. I suffer from migraines and the heat on these hot days and im fcuked. I do have tablets but its only stopping them and not preventing migraines. And sometimes I cant even hold down water.

Will summer be this hot every day? 34 and 37 were the hottest days i've had in 3 weeks.

Do I stick it out for longer in the hope I get used to it? Or go home. I have 2 weeks left with work so what do I do.

I did have a very nice holiday, a short working holiday. Im finding sydney is too big and busy. Its expensive.

Do I go home while I still have most of my savings left? Or stick it out?

Anywhere colder in australia?

Been a while since I was in Sydney, have been in perth a while now. Mid 30's sounds right for Sydney and NSW in general. Sorry.
Stay away from Queensland and NT would be my advice as its humid as well as hot.
Perth gets very hot, consistently over 40 December to feb but humidity is low. North WA where I work is high 40's in summer. Southern WA like Albany and esperance is coolish...30's.
Best bet is probably Vic or ACT but really you won 't escape the heat fully as they can get bloody hot too. Most places seem to get little mini heat waves for a week or two and then drop a few degrees after for a while, might be Sydney is experiencing one?
Somebody else on here might know of a nice coastal town with cool sea breezes etc... I'd move there myself.
Water is key, 5 litres a day if you can and more if very active although you are struggling to keep it down which is a problem.
You do get used to it a little bit but some people don't. Hard to tell, my partner dies in the heat and spends the summer hiding in dark rooms with aircon! Good luck, look after your health first.

Markcheese

Go to tasmania and pick fruit till you can get something better ..

Traq

Yeah, I'll second Tasmania. The climate will be cooler than anywhere else in Australia and also the cities won't be as big, Hobart would be the biggest with a little over 200,000 people vs the 4 million plus in Sydney.

Batgurl

If your only reason for wanting to go home is the heat, then yes...that's a bit mad.

Those hots days we had were compounded by the humidity which isn't always that bad. But 30+ is normal summer weather in Sydney and you will acclimatise.

Most places have air-con and fans are cheap in kmart/Coles.

However it kinda sounds like your just using the heat as an excuse. If your homesick and haven't shaken it after a month, it's probably not gonna go away. Australia isnt for everyone so maybe you should reconsider staying here.

Legend100

Don't want to sound pessimistic but if you are struggling now with the heat, not sure how you will cope in the summer

Every Aussie I talk to seems to think we are in for an absolute scorcher this summer so if they (seems to be coming from everywhere - forecasters included) are to believed, then maybe look to somewhere like Tassie as has been mentioned

(I'm in Sydney too by the way)

myhorse

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I've been here about 3 weeks on a WHV. I had work coming over for October and maybe more. It turns out its just october and they're not keeping me on. Thats not the issue as I can probably get more work.

But, we have had some hot days and these hot days and its killing me. I drink loads of water. I suffer from migraines and the heat on these hot days and im fcuked. I do have tablets but its only stopping them and not preventing migraines. And sometimes I cant even hold down water.

Will summer be this hot every day? 34 and 37 were the hottest days i've had in 3 weeks.

Do I stick it out for longer in the hope I get used to it? Or go home. I have 2 weeks left with work so what do I do.

I did have a very nice holiday, a short working holiday. Im finding sydney is too big and busy. Its expensive.

Do I go home while I still have most of my savings left? Or stick it out?

Anywhere colder in australia?

What type of work do you do ? Is it indoors or outdoors? What you are describing sounds like sun stroke especially when you can not hold down water.
Have you got badly burned on your head or backs of your legs recently?

rightyabe

Maybe don't drink ice cold water, that can make you get sick if your dehydrated. Drink Luke warm water instead and mix in a bit of staminate powder really helps.

Cooperspale

Stick it out in Oz, wear a hat in the sun. Move to a smaller city. Try Tasmania. Here in Melbourne it's 14c (feels like 11!) today.
I assume the nausea is from migraine aura, do you know what triggers it? You could try avoiding them if at all possible.
Get some rehydration formula and always have a sachet/tablets in your bag, pop this into your water bottle especially on the hot days.
Sydney is not for everyone, so don't worry about that, there are plenty more places to live and work in OZ

Kiith

You'll get used to it. I got here in Feb and could barely handle the 35-40 degree heat, but within a few weeks i was ok.

Now i've gone soft, and get cold if it's 15 degrees outside.

catbear

You'll get used to it, after a few years a twenty degree day feels chilly!

New Zealand would have a more comparable climate to Ireland, except lots more sun.

iusedtoknow

I'm just digging around the Australia forum for holiday tips...

however, I lived in Madrid for years which has burning hot days in the summer (40c+).

Water, shade and rest are you only friends in that sort of climate. 5 liters is a pretty good number for water, you should always be sipping water - not ice cold, but cool enough to be refreshing. If you get badly dehydrated...coke and salt and vinegar crisps. Saw it pretty much save someones life years ago near ayers rock.
Stay in the shade as if your life depended on it. Us irish tend to have a "ohhh sun..have to enjoy it" mentality sometime. Stay in the shade...
You also need to make sure you are getting enough rest in the evenings/nights. Do what ever you need to stay comfortable to get sleep. We found a fan with a bucket of ice in front of it ensured there was always cool air circulating (unless you're lucky enough to have AC).
In your apartment/room - keep the blinds down for the whole day, and only open the window when the sun is off/it's getting dark. Airflow means nothing when the air is hot.

And sunscreen...remember sunscreen. Factor 30 at minimum.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Thanks for all the tips. I'd love to stick it out here. I think the heat is definately bringing on the migraines. Had another today.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Trying to decide to move somewhere else in two weeks. Tasmania seems to be place. Or go home.

Xavi6

Sure, you'll have cold weather and the pissing rain at home but will your job prospects be any better?

As was already asked, are you working outside? What is your exposure like to the sun? If you're outside, can you get a job indoors? I work in an office from 8 to 4 or 5 every day so don't see the sun. Can you not try for something similar (temping for example)?

Giving up like that after one bad experience in Sydney is a complete waste of the WHV imo, you only get one shot at it.

Mrs Garth Brooks

I am working inside. Im looking into going to Tasmania. It seems to be cooler. Im not sure how much cooler but google is showing up at 23 degrees in summer. Can that be right?

woolymammoth

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I'd love to stick it out here. I think the heat is definately bringing on the migraines. Had another today.

amm... exactly what kinda work are you doing? It could be the work / bad posture / some other musculoskeletal problem. My partner used to get crazy migraines, mostly from a bad neck. Once that was corrected, the migraines [eventually] went away. just sayin'..

anyway, Adelaide normally is pretty good with the weather too. It pretty quiet here though.

pete4130

Drinking ice cold water can actually make heat exhaustion occur faster. The water is too cold for the body, so the body heats up to warm the water up and causes further problems. It sounds like you haven't acclimatised or drinking enough. By the time you realise you are thirsty its too late, you are dehydrated.

Drink often is the key, even if not thirsty. Sometimes you can sweat and its evaporated before you even realise.

I regularly work outdoors as a surveyor in temps from mid 30's up to 53c last Dec/Jan. It's not comfortable at all. You do adjust to it though, you have to make sure you are aware of how to handle it.

Try loose fitting long sleeve/trouser clothing to prevent UV burns on the skin, wide brim hat, sunblock and water. At least 750ml-1L per hour in extreme heat.
In the afternoons try adding a "squincher" to about 750ml of water. It replaces all the salts, electrolites etc that you've sweated out. They are flavoured but don't overdo them as they can dehydrate you if they aren't watered down enough. Don't go mad on them for a prolonged time either, they can cause kidney stones (rock and a hard place, right!).

Aircon also dehydrates you. It takes the moisture from the air. It could be a cause for migraines. Drink more water.

Tough it out a bit longer.

pete4130

iusedtoknow wrote: »

coke and salt and vinegar crisps. Saw it pretty much save someones life years ago near ayers rock.

Caffeinated drinks dehydrate. Salt also dehydrates. Maybe the person you saw had low blood sugars because coke and salt and vinegar crisps surely wont help dehydration. I've worked for over 2 years in rural QLD in the gas/mining industry, been sent on numerous heat stress courses, safety courses and you get constantly told NOT to have any extra salt intake and avoid caffeinated drinks.

The_Hustler

Here in Melbourne it was around 16 degrees today, we've had rare nice days in the high 20s but haven't hit 30 yet. However last summer it got hotter here than Sydney so it will get hot in the next few months

Mrs Garth Brooks

It was a tough week this week. Im not able for hostel living. This week I was sharing with 4 germans and they're a rotten breed of basterds. Hence, my thinking of home.

danotroy

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It was a tough week this week. Im not able for hostel living. This week I was sharing with 4 germans and they're a rotten breed of basterds. Hence, my thinking of home.

Jesus wept.

seachto7

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It was a tough week this week. Im not able for hostel living. This week I was sharing with 4 germans and they're a rotten breed of basterds. Hence, my thinking of home.

What? 80 million Germans, and you have them summed up after sharing a room with 4 eejits in a hostel. FFS.....

I found the heat in Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane unbearable. Just WAY too heavy and hot. Perth was a little more tolerable.

If you want to stay in that part of the world, I thought NZ was perfect. Hot enough, but not too hot, cooled down at night. A bit like if Ireland got really good summers. Greener too, so it freshened up in the evenings.

4 distinct seasons is the answer.

Xavi6

Sounds to me like you're just looking for excuses to go home tbh.

massdebater

pete4130 wrote: »

I regularly work outdoors as a surveyor in temps from mid 30's up to 53c last Dec/Jan. It's not comfortable at all. You do adjust to it though, you have to make sure you are aware of how to handle it.

Holy crap!!! The highest temp ever recorded in Aus is 50.7°C in SA back in the 60s. What country are you in?

AngryHippie

massdebater wrote: »

Holy crap!!! The highest temp ever recorded in Aus is 50.7°C in SA back in the 60s. What country are you in?

weather records => In the shade, under weather collecting/observation conditions.

Standing out in the blazing sun, on a 48 degree day, you could get up to that temperature

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/29/aging-weather-stations-contribute-to-high-temperature-records/

pete4130

massdebater wrote: »

Holy crap!!! The highest temp ever recorded in Aus is 50.7°C in SA back in the 60s. What country are you in?

The recorded temp at the nearest town was 46c but inland in the bush with winds coming from the west (deserts) and being on a compacted clay surfaced construction site that absorbs the heat, reflects it and radiates it, the temperatures go above the recorded temps at weather stations. The temp on site was 53c.

massdebater

Cool, I never realised that. I just remember reading that max temp fact on a pack of skins before.

/off topic temp chat

AngryHippie

Just try it under a beer crate...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloncurry,_Queensland

53.1 degrees.

Start eating vegemite, Drink at least 6 litres of water a day once you go over 30 degrees or so. Keep an eye on the colour of your pi$$.

If it's an overheating issue, get a little mist bottle from coles for about 2$. Keep if full of cool water, and just spray your face and arms every 5 or 10 minutes, works a treat.

It does take a while to acclimatise, I'm fairly sweaty by any standards, so 44 degrees in Far North QLD a few weeks ago was my worst nightmare, but its manageable.

Mellor

pete4130 wrote: »

Caffeinated drinks dehydrate. Salt also dehydrates. Maybe the person you saw had low blood sugars because coke and salt and vinegar crisps surely wont help dehydration. I've worked for over 2 years in rural QLD in the gas/mining industry, been sent on numerous heat stress courses, safety courses and you get constantly told NOT to have any extra salt intake and avoid caffeinated drinks.

Caffeinated drinks don't dehydrate. It's a common misconception.
Caffine is diuretic, which means it causes you to lose water, but this is more than offset my the water is contains, the net effect is still hydrating. The reason they say to avoid them is because they simply aren't are effective as water.
Bottom line, if you are dying of thirst coke will save your life, not kill you quicker.

You mistaken about salt also. One of the issues with dehydration is the body losing electrolytes (salts). If a person is suffering from dehydration these need to be replaced, water alone can't do this.
Excessive amounts salt on its own can speed up dehydration, but proper amounts when combined with water prevents and treats dehydration by replenishing water and electrolytes. Adding sugar to the mix allows it to be absorbed faster. That's why Sports/dehydration drinks like powerade/lucozade/hydralyte etc are basically water, sugar and salt. If you don't have any of those to hand, then coke and crisps will work - better yet water down the coke if you can.


If to need

danotroy

In short. Next time you are dehydrated don't down two pints of water as you will feel bloated. Neck two pints of beer and you will be fine

Batgurl

danotroy wrote: »

In short. Next time you are dehydrated don't down two pints of water as you will feel bloated. Neck two pints of beer and you will be fine

It will also help you handle those pesky Germans

aido79

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

It was a tough week this week. Im not able for hostel living. This week I was sharing with 4 germans and they're a rotten breed of basterds. Hence, my thinking of home.

As the Aussies say.."toughen up princess". Why would you move to one of the hottest countries in the world at the beginning of summer if you don't like hot weather?? You should follow the advice from alot of the posters here who have experienced summers in Oz. I work in the northwest of Australia where a 30 degree day at this time of year can feel refreshing! On my week off I live down south where the average temperature at this time of year is about 15 degrees which means every time I go back to work I have to climatise to the hot and sweaty Pilbara weather. It takes time to get used to severe weather changes so try and stick it out a little longer. Is it going to be too cold if you go back home?

woodey151

Just came from Tasmania it is much cooler there around 15 degrees at the moment. Was wearing jumpers all the time!

The Aussie

woodey151 wrote: »

Just came from Tasmania it is much cooler there around 15 degrees at the moment. Was wearing jumpers all the time!

You have been in Oz way to long there Bro...

Jumpers at 15 Degrees. That's a summers day back in Ireland.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Thanks for all the advice. Im still not sure what to do.

Someone asked why would I move to a hot country at the start of summer if I didnt like the hot weather.

I love the weather. Ireland is too cold and rainy. I will stick it out here for a few more weeks and see how I get on.

Im looking for more work again and Sydney seems like the place. Going south to Tasmania and ACT is very quiet. So il stick it out here. I wouldnt mind getting out of the CBD but its so close to public transport and you can get anywhere easily enough. I'll move as soon as I get work.

Im also a bit homesick. Didnt think it would happen.

I hate hostels, you have no space to yourself. But from what i've seen with flats you can be sharing a 3 or 4 bedrooms with 10 people. Would that be any better.

I think Christmas here will be weird.

There's also such a drinking culture here and I hate drink. There's no escaping drunk people.

I have a brother here and he hasnt helped at all. He hasnt picked up the phone in my 5 weeks here. He wasnt ringing home and making very little effort with us at home. I heard that he was ringing everyone else. And I mentioned just how hurtful it was and it seemed as if he was cutting us out. He fcuked me out of it and called me every name under the sun. He could never do anything wrong. 5 weeks here and nothing from him.

Mrs Garth Brooks

Sorry for all that

Zambia

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Sorry for all that

No need for any apology.

Mrs Garth Brooks

I miss having my dog sleep with me.

You can never really stay in and have a lazy day here. Not with the sun outside. You have to be doing something.

Christmas will be weird here.

I've seen everything I wanted to in Sydney, well except the blue mountains because of the fires.

If I did go home, I could pick up a chear car to keep warm and dry. Or I could stay here a few more weeks/months and spend everything i've got.

Dont know. I'll give it until December and i'll see.

danotroy

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Im also a bit homesick. Didnt think it would happen.

Everyone gets home sick at some stage so your not alone.

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I hate hostels, you have no space to yourself. But from what i've seen with flats you can be sharing a 3 or 4 bedrooms with 10 people. Would that be any better.

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I think Christmas here will be weird.

Christmas is weird here but everything here is weird if you compare it to home.

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

There's also such a drinking culture here and I hate drink. There's no escaping drunk people.

If your in a hostel there is no escaping drunk people so move out.

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

I have a brother here and he hasnt helped at all. He hasnt picked up the phone in my 5 weeks here. He wasnt ringing home and making very little effort with us at home. I heard that he was ringing everyone else. And I mentioned just how hurtful it was and it seemed as if he was cutting us out. He fcuked me out of it and called me every name under the sun. He could never do anything wrong. 5 weeks here and nothing from him.

Maybe your brother is trying to be independent of your family. After all he is half way around the world. I do not mean that he should ignore you but just cause he isn't ringing you and making sure your alright every second day does not mean he is the devil. I wouldn't want a sibling of mine coming here and questioning my motives for enjoying myself over here whilst not calling them to see if they were doing okay every couple of days.

danotroy

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Im also a bit homesick. Didnt think it would happen.

Everyone gets home sick at some stage so your not alone.

[/QUOTE]I hate hostels, you have no space to yourself. But from what i've seen with flats you can be sharing a 3 or 4 bedrooms with 10 people. Would that be any better. [/QUOTE]
Move out into a normal apartment. People generally don't live 4 to a bedroom in Australia, backpackers do.

[/QUOTE]I think Christmas here will be weird.[/QUOTE]
Christmas is weird here but everything here is weird if you compare it to home.

[/QUOTE]There's also such a drinking culture here and I hate drink. There's no escaping drunk people.
[/QUOTE]

If your in a hostel there is no escaping drunk people so move out.

[/QUOTE] I have a brother here and he hasnt helped at all. He hasnt picked up the phone in my 5 weeks here. He wasnt ringing home and making very little effort with us at home. I heard that he was ringing everyone else. And I mentioned just how hurtful it was and it seemed as if he was cutting us out. He fcuked me out of it and called me every name under the sun. He could never do anything wrong. 5 weeks here and nothing from him.[/QUOTE]

Maybe your brother is trying to be independent of your family. After all he is half way around the world. I do not mean that he should ignore you but just cause he isn't ringing you and making sure your alright every second day does not mean he is the devil. I wouldn't want a sibling of mine coming here and questioning my motives for enjoying myself over here.

seachto7

If you don't like it and are homesick, then go home. Australia isn't the be all and end all.
What about continental Europe?

Fair enough, you'll get a cold winter, but you'll get a good spring and summer. You won't get a whole lot of extreme heat or forest fires.

It could be a bit of a risk going to a non English speaking country. I did it years ago, went to Italy instead of Australia and it was a great decision. I've been to Australia and enjoyed it too, but it's not the be all and end all as some would have you believe. (especially Aussies!)

murphym7

Sorry to hear you are not getting on well out there and are feeling a little homesick. My advice is to get out of the hostel, you don’t seem happy there. I posted in a previous thread about a really cheap place I lived in the city. Own private room etc…. link: http://www.museumlodge.com.au/ you don’t need a bond either.

I worked here when I moved over: http://www.captaincook.com.au/ Give them a shout, they usually start hiring this time of year. If you have waitressing experience you will be laughing. I loved working there, yachting around Sydney harbour all day/night. It was a great job. I was on deck so it was even better than the catering guys, I met some great friends on those boats.

Stick with it until after Christmas, the key for you is to find some like-minded friends. It will change your whole outlook on the whole adventure.

Regarding the heat, I spent the Summers stepping in and out of walk in catering fridges and always had a stack of paper napkins handy to dry my back!!

Lucifer-0

Regarding the hostels, I was the same - well I didn't hate it but I was out every night and spending too much. Go on gumtree, look at short term options, usually no bond, it'll work out slightly more expensive than a hostel, but you'll get your own room, and kids won't be stealing your cornflakes. Should be plenty of places in the Inner West, nice areas.

The_Hustler

Sound like you'd like Melbourne lately, weather has been much cooler than Sydney the last few months. I didn't find this last year. Though this will probably change during the summer.

I also don't think there's much of a drinking culture in Melbourne, unless you mean coffee! There may be such a culture in St Kilda, but the fact you're in a hostel is the major issue there

pete4130

I'm based in Sydney and one of my flatmates is going home for a month, possibly 2 from Dec 11th. He's looking to sublet while he's away so if you're interested drop me a PM and I can send you pics, address etc.. Dates are a bit flexible too.
It's a secure flat right by Redfern train station, so close to the city, Surry Hills, Newtown, CBD etc. Only 3 people live there in a 2 bedroom place (guy who's subletting and myself and partner sharing a room). No dealing with 2,3 or 4 people in room!
I'm only there 1 week out of every 4 due to work so you'd effectively just be sharing with 1 person.

Do a traffic control course and get your construction white card to allow you to direct traffic. Weirdly, lots of Irish girls do this job in Australia? Sometimes the hours can be a bit tough with a nightshift but you get penalty rates of about $40/ph for it. Good money, easy work if a bit boring.