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How would you like the idea of a 20% tax on cosmetics.

  • 12-10-2013 6:36am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    I think this would be a great way to raise tax revenue. Cosmetics have a very large price range meaning the affordable items like shampoo would still be affordable and the expensive stuff will just be more expensive.

    The beauty of all this is that it will essentially be a tax on vanity. I am not a big user of cosmetics, I kind of think they are a bit of a scam, like face creams you have to use because you scrub away all the natural oils when you are washing your face.

    In economic terms you would say they are price elastic, meaning that people will still buy them not matter what the price change.

    I also think the rise in price will also cause a few people to stop buying what they don't need and start looking into natural alternatives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Abigayle


    Slap a heavy tax on oompa loompa coloured fake tan. That shít is vile.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    There already is.

    Its called VAT..... And we pay a higher rate of it that almost anywhere on this planet.

    Please come back again with another idea to confiscate more of peoples income in ways that dont affect you.... I cant wait to hear it.



    ....

    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    Thats 1 /115th of our VAT rate.



    ..... Next bright idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Abigayle


    There already is.

    Its called VAT..... And we a higher rate of it that almost anywhere on this planet.

    Please come back again with another idea to confiscate more of peoples income in ways that dont affect you.... I cant wait to hear it.



    ....

    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    Thats 1 /115th of our VAT rate.



    ..... Next bright idea?

    Holy shyte..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Ninja101


    They should just have a 90% tax on everything. This tax money can then be wisely and prudently spent by the responsible government, on teachers lavish pensions, civil servants thumb-twiddling fees, dole scroungers voting loyalties, blood soaked drunken hooligans in A&E on a Friday night, and other such worthy causes..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    There already is.

    Its called VAT..... And we pay a higher rate of it that almost anywhere on this planet.

    Please come back again with another idea to confiscate more of peoples income in ways that dont affect you.... I cant wait to hear it.



    ....

    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    Thats 1 /115th of our VAT rate.



    ..... Next bright idea?
    This. Just this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    ?

    they don't pay ANY tax on revenue. Tax is only paid on profits...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,565 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I think they should have an animal testing tax on cosmetics that are tested on animals.
    But give them a tax credit instead if they decide to employ some dole spongers to test on instead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Maybe if they thought of a better way of redistributing the tax you pay...



    Tax Calculator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭up for anything


    I think they should have an animal testing tax on cosmetics that are tested on animals.
    But give them a tax credit instead if they decide to employ some dole spongers to test on instead

    Dr Mengele, I presume. Good disguise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Jesus no.... just no. They are already taxed enough. Bad enough they're charging for the water to clean yourself with, without extra tax on shampoo and the like. There are enough smelly people out there as it is :P

    I have a mild skin condition, I DO have to moisturise, whether you feel it's necessary or not OP. You may view it as a luxury, but it's essential to me.

    23% tax is the higher tax margin in Ireland, and even things like feminine hygiene products are already charged at that. Why should it be higher?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    cosmetics are a scam which people readily buy into. nothing but snake oil. anti aging? are you really that ****ing simple?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Ninja101 wrote: »
    They should just have a 90% tax on everything. This tax money can then be wisely and prudently spent by the responsible government, on teachers lavish pensions, civil servants thumb-twiddling fees, dole scroungers voting loyalties, blood soaked drunken hooligans in A&E on a Friday night, and other such worthy causes..
    Tax everything at 100% and use the Public Service to re-distribute it back to us (less the administration costs of 60% of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    cosmetics are a scam which people readily buy into. nothing but snake oil. anti aging? are you really that ****ing simple?

    Well keeping your skin moisturised and protected from the sun goes a long way to preventing wrinkles.

    Edit: Oh and skin cancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Great idea OP, make the countries ladies smell and look worse!! What will poor ugly people going to do then?

    Back to the drawing board I thinks!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Well keeping your skin moisturised and protected from the sun goes a long way to preventing wrinkles.

    Edit: Oh and skin cancer.
    spf and moisturising are just about the only useful element of cosmetic products.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭blatantrereg


    Hygiene products don't qualify as cosmetics in my opinion. I also wouldn't include moisturisers and things like that.

    The production costs of cosmetics are tiny compared to what they are often sold for. It's funny that people object so strongly to the idea of paying money to their own country for them, but don't mind paying a corporation a hundred times what it costs to produce a product.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-11-13/magazine/tm-10_1_perfume-cost

    Furthermore most cosmetic products contain parabens which may pose health risks, interfere with hormone systems, and may cause premature aging of the skin.

    Nobody needs cosmetics, by definition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    spf and moisturising are just about the only useful element of cosmetic products.


    Would you say cosmetics are more or less useless than dvds, games, internet subscriptions, magazines or any other luxury item we enjoy?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sure let's tax the bollix out of everything, maybe put a rate of about 23% on anything that's not a necessary item.

    I definitely feel we need more taxes, and more 'Let's Tax This...' threads, I'd welcome that change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭EuropeanSon


    kjl wrote: »
    I think this would be a great way to raise tax revenue.

    I am not a big user of cosmetics.

    Breaking your past down into it's main points, I think.

    I'd love for them to make the necessary tax increases only apply to stuff I don't buy, too! :rolleyes:


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Rylie High Van


    Yeah, let's add more taxes on everything I don't like. It definitely won't go to waste and be a stupid idea, no sir


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    Thats 1 /115th of our VAT rate.



    ..... Next bright idea?

    Hold a vote asking if people would rather they'd leave. "Booked through Ireland" is a fairly key point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    I'm in favour of taxing stupid people with stupid, half-baked ideas. Might go to discourage it a lot more even.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭notnumber


    Tax the struggling artists (those who earn over e50k) ..and the horse racing and stud farms ,,the fact these people pay no tax desipte earning millions is a joke.
    Also up the corporation tax by 0.25 % ..its time they stop screwing ordinary people for a quid here and a quid there because they like sticky buns,smokes or whatever and go after new streams of revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2356767/Cult-51-Worlds-expensive-anti-aging-cream-goes-sale-Fortnum--Mason-tomorrow.html

    Cult 51 will cost £125 for a 1.6 fl oz (50ml) jar, equivalent to £94,000 a tonne.

    Wimmins are queueing up to buy this. Go figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Great. So the newsreaders with no make-up from the Michael Keaton/Jack Nicholson Batman movie will become reality.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2356767/Cult-51-Worlds-expensive-anti-aging-cream-goes-sale-Fortnum--Mason-tomorrow.html

    Cult 51 will cost £125 for a 1.6 fl oz (50ml) jar, equivalent to £94,000 a tonne.

    Wimmins are queueing up to buy this. Go figure.

    I really think sometimes that the More expensive a product is, the more lemmings really want it. Look at Creme De la Mer, there was the same kerfuffle over this product.

    You could package anything in a fancy jar, call it magic, and sell it for , well whatever you want, really :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Why does everyone have a hard on for taxing everything lately?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭notnumber


    griffdaddy wrote: »
    Why does everyone have a hard on for taxing everything lately?

    tax for hard-ons..great idea!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Would you say cosmetics are more or less useless than dvds, games, internet subscriptions, magazines or any other luxury item we enjoy?
    none of those items make outrageous claims or contain hundreds of chemicals which are rubbed all over the human body.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    MadsL wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2356767/Cult-51-Worlds-expensive-anti-aging-cream-goes-sale-Fortnum--Mason-tomorrow.html

    Cult 51 will cost £125 for a 1.6 fl oz (50ml) jar, equivalent to £94,000 a tonne.

    Wimmins are queueing up to buy this. Go figure.


    Plenty of luxury ****e men are queuing up for to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    An ugly tax?!

    You're having a laugh yeah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    CAN WE PLEASE STOP INTRODUCING TAXES?

    How about we stop spending money we don't have?
    How about we spend money we do have, more effectively?

    If you must insist on taxes; why does everyone want to be so creative? All we're doing is introducing unneeded complexity.

    Just raise the VAT on everything or increase income tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    OK to reply to a few points raised,

    Yes we pay VAT already, but we pay VAT on sugar drinks too, but it's still being suggested.

    No, it won't affect me but I don't see why that matters, I don't drink or smoke either but I think people pay enough tax on those items already.

    I haven't always been cosmetic free, I used to be like everyone else till I started looking into alternatives and realised the cosmetic industry was a bit of a scam anyway.

    People are not going to stop using cosmetics because they're more expensive, someone who pays €100 for something isn't going to stop buying it because it cost 120.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    What about people who work in the cosmetic industry, free lance MUA'S for example? They already pay a high price for high end cosmetics and tools, making them more expensive could actually be putting people out of work because they just can't afford the tools of their trade.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Days 298


    How about an extra 20% on phones laptops, deodorant, gym membership, all luxuries . Hell lets just raise VAT to 48%. Sure other than bread and water everything is a luxury and you don't deserve purchasing power. Why don't we raise fuel tax by a euro a litre while we are at it. You don't deserve your money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Days 298 wrote: »
    How about an extra 20% on phones laptops

    Broadcast charge will take care of that with us paying annually to let RTÉ give us the privilege of using our electronic devices in our homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,234 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    There already is.

    Its called VAT..... And we pay a higher rate of it that almost anywhere on this planet.

    It might be a good idea to tax cosmetics?
    It could be called VAT - vanity added tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Jesus, AH has really gone to town lately with the "introduce taxes in order to control people's entirely personal and victimless lifestyle choices" crap O_o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    kjl wrote: »
    it will essentially be a tax on vanity.
    Ah, the mask slips. So... washing oneself is vanity?
    cosmetics are a scam which people readily buy into. nothing but snake oil. anti aging? are you really that ****ing simple?
    spf and moisturising are just about the only useful element of cosmetic products.
    So you agree they're actually not totally a scam.
    SPF is anti-ageing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    Simple revenue solution. Legalise drugs and tax them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Not a great idea, not too sure about the make up end of cosmetics but since its already cheaper to buy this stuff online or in NI so pushing people to that route even further would mean more small business places closing = more unemployment = less tax + more social welfare.

    In terms of the moisturiser/SPF thing didn't used to really believe in it and still think that spf30 etc is way too high in Ireland but having been in an outdoors job for the last while have seen lots of people that look way older cos of weathering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭irishmotorist


    There already is.

    Its called VAT..... And we pay a higher rate of it that almost anywhere on this planet.

    Please come back again with another idea to confiscate more of peoples income in ways that dont affect you.... I cant wait to hear it.



    ....

    May I suggest you get in touch with Google and ask them about the fact that they pay just 0.2% tax on their revenues booked through Ireland.

    Thats right.... One fifth of one percent in tax.

    Thats 1 /115th of our VAT rate.



    ..... Next bright idea?

    So what if they have a massive tax deal! How many people do they employ here? How much income tax is generated from them? How much VAT do they pay? Does the presence of Google and the others throw ireland in positive light for other potential investors?

    I don't care if multi-mega corporations make trillions if they are providing people with jobs. Without these lads getting good tax deals our unemployment rate would be higher and our ability to attract more big companies to employ people would be lower.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Days 298


    Simple revenue solution. Legalise drugs and tax them.

    Criminals will always be cheaper. Just look at the cigarette situation. FF even want to add another euro onto a pack. If weed is €10 a gram from criminals now the gov will want at least €30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    To paraphrase people on the proposed sugar tax:

    I don't wear make-up, and I don't approve of people wearing too much of it - tax it into DA GROUND!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Well keeping your skin moisturised and protected from the sun goes a long way to preventing wrinkles.

    Edit: Oh and skin cancer.
    Yeah, that's grand, it's just that moisturiser and sunblock are pretty cheap, actually.

    My moisturiser costs a tenner, ditto for sun block, when we even need it. It lasts a few weeks, so an extra €2 is not going to make any difference.

    If some body is electing to spend multiples of the typical price for cosmetics, I think that is indicative of someone whose resources are adequate to meet their needs; so a higher cosmetics tax policy seems like a sensible idea to me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Even the recession seems to be lots beauty salons,etc opening up all the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    Yes please, OP, put 20% onto my shampoo and conditioner, because I can totally afford that.

    Why are people so obsessed with adding extra taxes. Cut down on our damn spending!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    We should tax tax so that when we put tax on more tax we get to have a tax on tax taxing-type tax system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    We should tax tax so that when we put tax on more tax we get to have a tax on tax taxing-type tax system.
    Thats what we do already. Anyway, pretty much all our money goes as tax anyway. Theres not much of it going abroad with all this cheap chineese manufacturing.


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