did you get your das payment?

whelan1

if you applied for das did you get the payment? spelt payment wrong

bbam

whelan1 wrote: »

if you applied for das did you get the payment?

Yep..
In and out in about 3 hours

delaval

Mine lodged to bank, princely sum of €46.90

mahoney_j

delaval wrote: »

Mine lodged to bank, princely sum of €46.90

Any chance of a loan!!

reilig

I have a strange one. We have 2 herd numbers. One belongs to my OH. One gets the maximum Ha payment at €82.27. The other had 11 HA up to last year and this year we added an extra 2HA of a field that we had always rented, but only added this year. Up to last year we always only got the lower rate of €82/ha. This year, after adding the extra 2 or so Ha, we got paid €95.99 for the whole 13 Ha. The extra land that we added is just 1.5 miles from the main block of land and is in the same parish.

If it's a mistake, I'm not going back to tell them

Donegal_TDI

Haven't been paid, delayed as 2 parcels have been sent for digitising, nothing has changed since 2008, same application.

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Mine lodged to bank, princely sum of €46.90

thats whats all wrong with the system, fellows like your self on the best of land milking the system for all it worth. How the F do you manage to claim €46 quid. I wonder what the administration cost to your DAS payment would be, €150????

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

thats whats all wrong with the system, fellows like your self on the best of land milking the system for all it worth. How the F do you manage to claim €46 quid. I wonder what the administration cost to your DAS payment would be, €150????

I turned it into beer vouchers

Would you feel better if I had gotten €4600?

Conmaicne Mara

No money here yet. Already know what's wrong, same shíte every year. I think I will phone them on Monday as the way things are going I'd usually wait a while but if SFP is blocked up too I could be in trouble quickly.

They could dig up my last census and my AEOS plan and process my DAS automatically, but that would make sense and the civil service don't do sense.

Conmaicne Mara

delaval wrote: »

I turned it into beer vouchers

Would you feel better if I had gotten €4600?

I'd like to see you get €4600.



Just for Bobs reaction alone

ABlur

Will have to wait til Jan 2014 when I've met the 7 month stocking requirement. Twil pay Santy's bill!

bob charles

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I'd like to see you get €4600.



Just for Bobs reaction alone

if he had to look out his window ever morning to the sight that you and I see of rushes,rock and misery he would be thankful his payment is only €46



I look after 5 herds for SFP etc for the extended family and no payment for anyone of them yet. Lots of pensioners so there is little fear of them, Twill be all flowing in my direction eventually anyway:D:D I wish

darragh_haven

bob charles wrote: »

if he had to look out his window ever morning to the sight that you and I see of rushes,rock and misery he would be thankful his payment is only €46



I look after 5 herds for SFP etc for the extended family and no payment for anyone of them yet. Lots of pensioners so there is little fear of them, Twill be all flowing in my direction eventually anyway:D:D I wish

And you rekon marrying into land would be hardship.....

keep going

Landed this week, does that mean my sfp is ok or could get of the letters looking for backmoney

manjou

Not yet as had 2 inspections this year so have to wait till reports etc done.Tried ringing no joy ag consultant said cleared for payment next week but will believe when see it.

20silkcut

I really think this is the absolute pits what is going on this year. The silence from the IFA is deafening they are the most useless shower they are worse than the department. To my eye it seems the dept have cynically decided to slow the payment of DAS for whatever reason knowing that the recipients i.e. small farmers, are poorly voiced and ignored by the IFA.
There will be no delay with the SFP where the big swinging mickeys would be roaring like bulls if their payment was as much as minute late.
It's a murky slimy setup the whole thing but the financial distress it's causing is huge and deeply deeply worrying.
Really farming lobbyism is weak as a kitten and farmers have been forced to take massive income cuts in the last 3 years. And there is more to come when the REPS well finally runs dry over the coming months. Some guys will have 8-10 grand sliced off their income in one go. Imagine trying to impose income cuts like that across the public sector.

theaceofspies

20silkcut wrote: »

I really think this is the absolute pits what is going on this year. The silence from the IFA is deafening they are the most useless shower they are worse than the department. To my eye it seems the dept have cynically decided to slow the payment of DAS for whatever reason knowing that the recipients i.e. small farmers, are poorly voiced and ignored by the IFA.
There will be no delay with the SFP where the big swinging mickeys would be roaring like bulls if their payment was as much as minute late.
It's a murky slimy setup the whole thing but the financial distress it's causing is huge and deeply deeply worrying.
Really farming lobbyism is weak as a kitten and farmers have been forced to take massive income cuts in the last 3 years. And there is more to come when the REPS well finally runs dry over the coming months. Some guys will have 8-10 grand sliced off their income in one go. Imagine trying to impose income cuts like that across the public sector.

The Department staff are "protected" under Croke Park thanks to the Unions. So farmers take the hit instead through closure of REPS etc. No guesses for which is the stronger lobby group. This Minister is only laughing at the IFA and biding his time for a better Ministerial position.

20silkcut

theaceofspies wrote: »

The Department staff are "protected" under Croke Park thanks to the Unions. So farmers take the hit instead through closure of REPS etc. No guesses for which is the stronger lobby group. This Minister is only laughing at the IFA and biding his time for a better Ministerial position.

labour ministers are vehemently protecting union interests at the cabinet table so absolutely no way will the public sector be touched that would bring down the government.

When Coveny looks at his agriculture budget and where to distribute the pain of course he is going to have no problem directing that pain on to small farmers who are not his constituency. This DAS delay looks like a classic case of party politicking and the historic disregard Simon Coveny's party had for a certain class of farmer is clearly on display here.
It was very underhand of them not to inform people they would not be paid on the 24th sept that was the real unforgivable aspect of it. When your a dry stock farmer everything is budgeted to within an inch of its life. Payment dates are really really important and makes things very awkward and desperately embarrassing when you have to go and tell creditors to hold off for a few more weeks when they were expecting to be paid.

whelan1

simple texting system to say you are cleared for payment or not a week before payment date

Dampintheattic

Not paid here. Not cleared for payment. Wrote "Coveney is a WANKER", on my Seanad ballot paper. Fug it, why not?

whelan1

so if the poll was done right 58% of eligible(sp) didnt get their das, thats a total joke

Dampintheattic

whelan1 wrote: »

so if the poll was done right 58% of eligible(sp) didnt get their das, thats a total joke

Meanwhile they are writing to people, looking for €0.01 back in overpayments from previous years.

whelan1

Dampintheattic wrote: »

Meanwhile they are writing to people, looking for €0.01 back in overpayments from previous years.

they took my overclaim off my das

Conmaicne Mara

whelan1 wrote: »

they took my overclaim off my das

They'll do that with any overpayment/fine if you don't go to the trouble of paying them before the date of your next cheque.

I got no over claim letter (yet), if I do I'll be ignoring it. I won't waste my time arranging payment for them. They don't waste any time on doing me favours.

whelan1

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

They'll do that with any overpayment/fine if you don't go to the trouble of paying them before the date of your next cheque.

I got no over claim letter (yet), if I do I'll be ignoring it. I won't waste my time arranging payment for them. They don't waste any time on doing me favours.

my understanding was that the sfp and das are 2 different schemes should they not have taken the sfp over payment- which was for the river that goes through our farm, so no disputing it- from my sfp?

Conmaicne Mara

whelan1 wrote: »

my understanding was that the sfp and das are 2 different schemes should they not have taken the sfp over payment- which was for the river that goes through our farm, so no disputing it- from my sfp?

They attempted to fine me before, they made no distinction on payments, just referred to future payments.

20silkcut

Still dragging on here no sign of money.

Really disappointing that there is so little anger in the farming community over this issue.

It seems rocking the boat is really abhorrent to most farmers.

If they are not going to pay us can they give us back our industry ?

rancher

20silkcut wrote: »

Still dragging on here no sign of money.

Really disappointing that there is so little anger in the farming community over this issue.

It seems rocking the boat is really abhorrent to most farmers.

If they are not going to pay us can they give us back our industry ?

If you're not telling your local IFA office, nothing will be done, they need specific cases not just a vague ''boo hoo no one's getting paid''.
As I said before no one has been on to me

20silkcut

Ah here farmers are not bring paid left right and centre a dog with a mallet up its hole knows there is a desperate underhand govt policy this year.

It's obvious the absolute ****e is being squeezed out of the farming sector.

While still the public sector lives protected in the year 2008.

The government tell us they are not cutting any farm payments this year then they just don't pay us. Then if ya ring them they tell ya everything is fine and payment is cleared etc but they still don't pay ffs.

Fair hard deal with them when they won't admit they are not paying ya.
It's like they are pissing on our heads and telling us its not raining.

Like its fine This money has to go to accountant, tax man, co-op, bloodsuckers the lot they can all go sing for it.

Viewtodiefor

rancher wrote: »

If you're not telling your local IFA office, nothing will be done, they need specific cases not just a vague ''boo hoo no one's getting paid''.
As I said before no one has been on to me

Ifa. That joke of a crowd. May aswelll chat to my dog. Who are you kidding

whelan1

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Ifa. That joke of a crowd. May aswelll chat to my dog. Who are you kidding

that made me laugh

Viewtodiefor

whelan1 wrote: »

that made me laugh

You need a laugh in the morning :-)

rancher

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Ifa. That joke of a crowd. May aswelll chat to my dog. Who are you kidding

Jokes on you, I've never failed to get someone paid.
Farmers who don't have any other income need their subsidies on time

grange mac

I have given up ringing the ******s...cant leave a message and wont answer their phones ffs...i now just check bank in hope that im paid!! Got sfp so hoping this will come.

castletrader

Has anyone got their reps payment yet and when is it due ??

20silkcut

rancher wrote: »

Jokes on you, I've never failed to get someone paid.
Farmers who don't have any other income need their subsidies on time

That is fine and fair play to you but if you were to that for every farmer who wasn't paid you would be a very old man by the time you are finished.

Why are the IFA so lethargic on this issue?

If just 1 public servants pay was a minute late siptu/ictu/fuku etc would have the country at a standstill.

What we have here is wholesale gang rape of farmers by the government while they tell us they are not and the IFA are swallowing it. Thinking its just a farmer here and there.

rancher

We had our election debate this week, it wasn't brought up, 200+ at it
My county exec two weeks ago, not a word about non-payment,
My subsidies have never been delayed,
No one has been on to me,
I've advised you what to do, doesn't matter to me if you don't do it.

coolshannagh28

This is all down to that lapdog Coveney he was shoved into agriculture because he was on the wrong side in the heave against Kenny, now he is cutting small farmers to ribbons to ingratiate himself into a promotion . He will throw a bun at his ass in 2015 in the form of an AEOS equivalent when he moves on to secure votes and farmers will continue the Pavlov s dog routine.

Viewtodiefor

rancher wrote: »

We had our election debate this week, it wasn't brought up, 200+ at it
My county exec two weeks ago, not a word about non-payment,
My subsidies have never been delayed,
No one has been on to me,
I've advised you what to do, doesn't matter to me if you don't do it.

Of course yours haven't been delayed sure your in the Ifa rancher ;-)



Take your point not much good moaning on here about it !

20silkcut

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Of course yours haven't been delayed sure your in the Ifa rancher ;-)



Take your point not much good moaning on here about it !

This is a farming forum and this is a farming issue.

delaval

20silkcut wrote: »

This is a farming forum and this is a farming issue.

Why don't you call Ranchers bluff. If you are a member of IFA get on to your Co Chair or whom ever is the big wig.

If your not a member well then you can't be complaining about them, can you?

If I was owed money I'd follow every avenue to secure payment

Conmaicne Mara

IFA Direct Payments and Inspection Helpline telephone number of 1890 98 98 78.

Or contact your local branch.

Viewtodiefor

20silkcut wrote: »

This is a farming forum and this is a farming issue.

Of course you can complain here. But if it were me I'd be doing something else also to try get my money, be that the Ifa route r whatever. Wasn't ment to get a u in particular just a general comment.

rancher

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

IFA Direct Payments and Inspection Helpline telephone number of 1890 98 98 78.

Or contact your local branch.

Best to contact the local regional office for whatever area you're in, tell them you need the money

moy83

20silkcut wrote: »

a dog with a mallet up its hole

Silkcut I know this is a serious matter but I have to say your description above gave me the best laugh I had all day thanks .
Have you tried a local councilor or TD ? I'd say you are right about them just holding onto money in a bid to never let it go if at all possible so its going to be a long slog to get it

20silkcut

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Of course you can complain here. But if it were me I'd be doing something else also to try get my money, be that the Ifa route r whatever. Wasn't ment to get a u in particular just a general comment.

Got it today in the account.Couldn't give a toss now ye can all go to hell.

theaceofspies

History will look back on these as the days when the final nail was driven on the coffin of the Irish family farm - don't make the mistake to believe this is by accident - Policy, Policy, Policy. Be very careful what you vote for.

20silkcut

Here here.... as a man who voted fine Gael in 2011 as a reaction to the last ff govt these episodes of delayed payments to the smaller farmers and cutting schemes aimed at them will live long in my memory never again will I even contemplate voting FG again.

Jonblack

20silkcut wrote: »

Here here.... as a man who voted fine Gael in 2011 as a reaction to the last ff govt these episodes of delayed payments to the smaller farmers and cutting schemes aimed at them will live long in my memory never again will I even contemplate voting FG again.

+1

delaval

Agree on voting, really pissed off at the cost of living. I gave no problem with income tax as that's what it is, it's all the other charges and no return along with VHI etc that gets me.
The waste in gov dept and local authorities is another real big issue with me.

Problem is we don't really have a great choice in who we elect as there is a real lack of any talent available

The independents are a joke and the Shinners are a non runner so who's left?

20silkcut

delaval wrote: »

The independents are a joke and the Shinners are a non runner so who's left?

What we need is a party to represent smaller farmers interests. Wonder what party would do that???