Mayweather - Khan (May 3rd 2014)

Johner

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2441733/Amir-Khan-fight-Floyd-Mayweather-Las-Vegas-year.html

Mayweather doesn't hit that hard but he will still KO Khan imo.

richierichballs

daily fail? haha

Johner

Good input, Daily Mail or not Khan was always going to be an option for Mayweather and it's not that surprising that it might happen. Khan is big in America, the fight would generate big money.

Take Your Pants Off

Is this confirmed or what ??

richierichballs

its online everywhere and i wouldn't rule it out.

but think of it like this, when was the last time floyd announced a fight two weeks after his previous one?

when has he announced his next fight seven months before it happens? never.

the reason he is so successful is partly down to his ability to promote a fight, it's way to early to announce even if this is true.

ASOT

Kahns not even fit to lace floyds boots.

MD1990

i think he should face Alexander first & let Mayweather fight the winner
Khan has a had a very poor 2 years

walshb

richierichballs wrote: »

daily fail? haha

Is there something in the article that doesn't add up?

Frankie Lee

If he fights Alexander and beats him he would deserve a shot at Mayweather but seeing that he hasn't beat anyone of note since Judah over two years ago a fight against Mayweather without beating Alexander would be a joke. It would be bad for boxing,

boxer.fan

There's no doubt Khan is only a schoolboy compared to Mayweather, but i dont think there is any reason why he shouldn't get a fight against him. An argument could be made that its Garcia's turn next, but I think that Mayweather demolishes him anyway. Khan has as good a chance as anyone in that weight division. The lad has the skills just lacks the brain cells.
People are suggesting that Martinez & Golovkin should cut weight to fight Mayweather, as fans it would be a great spectacle, but the only sense it makes is a generous payday for them. Floyd's remaining fights will come from the following pot:

Khan
Bradley
Garcia
Mattysse
Provodnikov
Alvarado
Rios
Alexander
Trout
Cotto
Pacquiao

That list could be narrowed down even more when you would consider Promotional difficulties, ppv draw etc.

walshb

Khan has skills, but unfortunately for him those skills aren't in the pro game. More an amateur skillset

SRFC

A joke of a fight if it goes ahead,as a boxing fan and a big fan of Floyd I certainly wont be paying any PPV fee to watch this farce,this is the Amir Khan that Julio Diaz smashed and nearly Ko'd,his running for his life in that fight was pathetic,and they want to match him with one of the all time greats :rolleyes:

richierichballs

nothing more has been said about it since, all BS.

Kev M

I could see Khan actually winning the first few rounds, but then getting ko'd. The way he comes forward to punch, with a big step and even bigger tell on when he's about to let his right hand go, I could see him going down to another left hook.

AEDIC

Only one good thing can come of this in my opinion...Khan retiring from boxing. Way past his sell by date imho.

walshb

It's a complete no win fight for Floyd. He beats Khan who cares? He beats him on points, it is seen as unimpressive. Khan makes it tricky and somewhat close, and Floyd gets badly criticized. Khan has the speed and reach to pose some issues. If Floyd can't get him out of there then it's a scrappy points fight I think.

Henno30

walshb wrote: »

It's a complete no win fight for Floyd. He beats Khan who cares? He beats him on points, it is seen as unimpressive. Khan makes it tricky and somewhat close, and Floyd gets badly criticized. Khan has the speed and reach to pose some issues. If Floyd can't get him out of there then it's a scrappy points fight I think.

Khan still sells. It's easy money.

Aotearoa

it'll happen. and a little bit of sick will come up in my mouth. its an economcal no brainer. ppv king vs english hype job. its a financial group hug.


hope mayweather knocks the chap spark out.

Henno30

Too Tough To Die

This fight will be lucky to sell half as many PPVs as the Canelo fight. Outside of a fight against Pacquiao, a fight way past its sell by date, Mayweather doesn't really have anywhere left to turn.

clubwelly

http://www.badlefthook.com/2013/10/18/4853608/robert-guerreros-manager-if-khan-wants-to-fight-robert-golden-boy-mayweather-boxing-news

There was talk of Khan fighting Robert Guerrero but that doesn't seam to be true either. Looks like he is holding out for Mayweather

willmunny1990

walshb wrote: »

It's a complete no win fight for Floyd. He beats Khan who cares? He beats him on points, it is seen as unimpressive. Khan makes it tricky and somewhat close, and Floyd gets badly criticized. Khan has the speed and reach to pose some issues. If Floyd can't get him out of there then it's a scrappy points fight I think.

It's definitely a no win fight for Floyd however I think you are giving Khan too much credit.

Floyd definitely has the power to take Khan out, easily.

This will go the same way the Manny Hatton fight went. It's inevitable this fight ends early due to Floyds accuracy, Khans brittle chin, lack of a brain and defensive skills.

Henno30

I wonder how long it'll take Hunter to figure out how brainless Khan is? No point trying to teach that guy how to be slick. He's only putting him in danger. He needs to be peppering opponents and forcing them to cover up, not trying to play chess when ludo would be too much for him.

Would be surprised if Floyd didn't knock him out.

efb

I can't see where Khan gets the PPVs in the US

Charlie George

Khan only interested in one thing and that is money,nuf said.

Henno30

efb wrote: »

I can't see where Khan gets the PPVs in the US

He'll sell more than Robert Guerrero.

richierichballs

Henno30 wrote: »

He'll sell more than Robert Guerrero.

Ha! What? Don't compare what ppv buys an overrated British has been can do compared to a 6 time world champion in 4 weight divisions fighting on cinco de mayo weekend would do.

efb

Henno30 wrote: »

He'll sell more than Robert Guerrero.

I scencerely doubt that

FTA69

If Khan can be repeatedly tagged hard by fighters as limited as Diaz then I can see Mayweather's laser of a right hand hitting him more than a few times. Mayweather has shown time and time again that he can adapt seamlessly to any style and if he adopts a pressuring style (knowing Khan doesn't have great power) I can easily see a KO. Mayweather hits deceptively hard and I can't see Khan eating hard right counters and staying on his feet for 12 rounds.

walshb

richierichballs wrote: »

Ha! What? Don't compare what ppv buys an overrated British has been can do compared to a 6 time world champion in 4 weight divisions fighting on cinco de mayo weekend would do.

He is not comparing Khan's selling power to Floyd's.

richierichballs

walshb wrote: »

He is not comparing Khan's selling power to Floyd's.

no he's comparing it to a well established Mexican fighting on a Mexican holiday weekend. believe it or not Guerrero has that many titles.

walshb

richierichballs wrote: »

no he's comparing it to a well established Mexican fighting on a Mexican holiday weekend. believe it or not Guerrero has that many titles.

Apologies. You are correct.

I still think Khan could be as big a seller.

richierichballs

walshb wrote: »

Apologies. You are correct.

I still think Khan could be as big a seller.

Possibly in the UK for sure, I don't think now is the right time. If he beat Alexander fair enough but he doesn't deserve it right now. Is he contracted to Sky?

Henno30

This isn't even a debate, Khan is clearly a bigger name in the US than Robert Guerrero. Plus he brings a UK audience. The only reason Golden Boy still cares about Khan is his drawing power. If Robert Guerrero had performed as poorly as Khan has over the past couple of years do you think GBP would try to tout him as a Mayweather opponent?

And in any case, the Mayweather v Guerrero fight did not do well at all by the usual standards of a Mayweather fight. The primary reason for that was that Guerrero was unknown and uninteresting. A Mayweather v Khan fight would do better, even if by any other criteria it would be an absolute joke of a fight.

richierichballs

Henno30 wrote: »

This isn't even a debate, Khan is clearly a bigger name in the US than Robert Guerrero. Plus he brings a UK audience. The only reason Golden Boy still cares about Khan is his drawing power. If Robert Guerrero had performed as poorly as Khan has over the past couple of years do you think GBP would try to tout him as a Mayweather opponent?

And in any case, the Mayweather v Guerrero fight did not do well at all by the usual standards of a Mayweather fight. The primary reason for that was that Guerrero was unknown and uninteresting. A Mayweather v Khan fight would do better, even if by any other criteria it would be an absolute joke of a fight.

Of course it's up for debate? A Mexican six time world champion fighting on Cinco de mayo weekend isn't a good argument?

Take it from someone who has actually been in Vegas for Cinco de mayo weekend, I was at Mayweather-Cotto, Canelo-Mosley was on the under card and more than 70% of the fans in the arena where there for him.

Mexicans flock to Vegas for cinco de mayo weekend every year. Hundreds of theaters all over the US open for fight parties, do you think the same fuss would be made for Amir Khan? Maybe if the fight was in Wembley then fine.

Mayweather is contracted to fight in the MGM with his shotime deal, the reason Goldenboy still try get Khan big fights is because of the PPV numbers he does in the UK. But even at that they are nothing compared to what a Mexican could achieve on a Mexican holiday weekend.

Henno30

richierichballs wrote: »

Of course it's up for debate? A Mexican six time world champion fighting on Cinco de mayo weekend isn't a good argument?

Take it from someone who has actually been in Vegas for Cinco de mayo weekend, I was at Mayweather-Cotto, Canelo-Mosley was on the under card and more than 70% of the fans in the arena where there for him.

Mexicans flock to Vegas for cinco de mayo weekend every year. Hundreds of theaters all over the US open for fight parties, do you think the same fuss would be made for Amir Khan? Maybe if the fight was in Wembley then fine.

Mayweather is contracted to fight in the MGM with his shotime deal, the reason Goldenboy still try get Khan big fights is because of the PPV numbers he does in the UK. But even at that they are nothing compared to what a Mexican could achieve on a Mexican holiday weekend.

First of all, Guerrero is not a six time world champion unless you count interim titles, which no one should. He held the featherweight and super featherweight IBF belts, he has never held a title above 130lbs.

Secondly, yes obviously everyone is aware of the Cinco de Mayo argument. But to compare Guerrero and Canelo is ludicrous. Canelo is a Mexican superstar, Guerrero has never had a particularly big Mexican following, and to label him a 'Mexican' fighter is even stretching it a little.

Thirdly, the consensus following the Mayweather-Guerrero fight was that it had performed poorly, allegedly doing less than a million buys and worrying the executives at Showtime. This doesn't negate the Cinco argument, it just demonstrates the fact that Guerrero was a poor opponent for Floyd, in boxing and economic terms.

Khan's relevance comes from his drawing power. Very few people consider him a key player in the welterweight neighbourhood anymore. Nobody, except perhaps himself, considers him a threat to Floyd. But he does have a name, and GBP are still backing him for that reason.

gene_tunney

Guerrero was a lightweight and he's not even Mexican.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

Guerrero was a lightweight and he's not even Mexican.

Guerrero WAS a LW. Not when he faced Floyd. I could say that Floyd was a SFW.

Anyway, I think Khan is a bigger name on the global boxing scene than Guerrero.

gene_tunney

walshb wrote: »

Guerrero WAS a LW. Not when he faced Floyd. I could say that Floyd was a SFW.

...That's because he obviously put on weight to narrow the size disadvantage. It's not natural weight, he is a naturally smaller guy.

You have demonstrated a repeated inability to comprehend this particular topic of being naturally the same size vs putting on weight to narrow a size disadvantage.

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

...That's because he obviously put on weight to narrow the size disadvantage. It's not natural weight, he is a naturally smaller guy.

You have demonstrated a repeated inability to comprehend this particular topic of being naturally the same size vs putting on weight to narrow a size disadvantage.

You said he was a LW. You are failing to comprehend that he was not a LW when he met Floyd. I could say that.

I am well aware of natural size and deliberate weight gain to match an opponents size.

Research both boxers' careers, stats, weights, heights etc. Do that and then tell me that Floyd is so obviously a bigger dude.

Floyd Mayweather is naturally a small sized welter. Not real small, but small. He started his career at 130 lbs aged 19/20.

By 23/24 he was still fighting at 130 lbs. Compare that to say Hearns or Leonard who were full fledged 147 lb boxers at that same age

walshb

gene_tunney wrote: »

...That's because he obviously put on weight to narrow the size disadvantage. It's not natural weight, he is a naturally smaller guy.

You have demonstrated a repeated inability to comprehend this particular topic of being naturally the same size vs putting on weight to narrow a size disadvantage.

And he didn't put on weight to narrow the difference with Floyd. You do know that Guerrero fought at WW before he met Floyd? I am betting that Guererro never ever fights below 145 lbs again.

From memory Floyd first ventured to 147 lbs when aged 27/28.. Guerrero first ventured there aged 29 or so. Where is this obvious size difference? Just because Floyd has fought at 147 lbs for a longer time does not mean that he is naturally bigger. He is 6 or so years older than Guererro.

Henno30

By Kevin Francis, courtesy of The Daily Star

AMIR KHAN is moving *closer to a megabucks fight with Floyd May*weather next year. Khan’s proposed fight with former WBC and IBF light-welterweight champ Devon Alexander has fallen through and that has paved the way for a superfight with unbeaten Mayweather.

Khan said: “There’s a lot of talk about the Mayweather fight happening, but at the moment, I’ve left it up to my promotional team, Golden Boy.”

A May date in Las Vegas is being discussed but there is also a chance of ‘Money’ Mayweather agreeing to the bout taking place at Wembley.

Whatever the venue, it will be the biggest fight of 26-year-old Khan’s *career.

The Bolton fighter said: “Meeting Mayweather would be my dream fight.

“We are the superstars of boxing and, fingers crossed, we will meet.

“I want to fight him because he is a great fighter and I want to fight the best out there. I would love the fight.

Both boxers have fight deals with Showtime Sports, which is making negations for the bout less complicated.

At 36, American Mayweather is still in top form, having recently outclassed Mexican superstar Saul *‘Canelo’ Alvarez to claim his 45th *successive win.

But Khan does not lack confidence in his own ability.

He added: “To fight Floyd Mayweather, you have to box him at his own game.

“You have to box him. You have to use all of your speed and good footwork to make those old legs move.

“With Floyd, if you are *going to be a puncher, you are going to walk towards him and you are going to walk into his shots.”

Henno30

Is this fight actually going to happen

A lot of signs point that way at the moment.

HigginsJ

Henno30 wrote: »

Is this fight actually going to happen

A lot of signs point that way at the moment.

Apparently Mayweather will be announcing it next week & from what I have read it looks to be Khan or Devon Alexander

walshb

HigginsJ wrote: »

Apparently Mayweather will be announcing it next week & from what I have read it looks to be Khan or Devon Alexander

It just cannot be Alexander. Can't be. There's boxers in my local community that have a more known global name.;)

Frankie Lee

Hopefully it will be Alexander, if he can cruise past a tricky enough opponent in Porter then he definitely would deserve it.

Underground

Nobody out there deserves a Mayweather fight more than Tim Bradley IMO, but he won't get it.

Henno30

Danny Garcia is an option. No sign thus far that Golden Boy want to match him with Floyd yet though.

walshb

I'd love to see Floyd dealing with Provodnikov. What a great clash.

willmunny1990

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/boxingmma/manny-pacquiao-given-terms-floyd-mayweather-fight#

walshb

willmunny1990 wrote: »

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/boxingmma/manny-pacquiao-given-terms-floyd-mayweather-fight#

So, what about Guerrero getting a shot? There's something odd about the Floyd camp not wanting to entertain a Pacman fight.