Some Freesat Channels Scrambled non

brrabus

Hi

A number of my freesat channels over the past few days have suddenly become scrambled or stating no Signal. The ones that I have spotted (and I have not gone through them all) are Vintage TV and Challenge. Is anyone else experiencing this. Not really sure what to do, maybe do a new satellite search which I would prefer not to as it just duplicates all the other channels. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The box (which I have two of) is the Ferguson Ariva 250.

The Cush

brrabus wrote: »

A number of my freesat channels over the past few days have suddenly become scrambled or stating no Signal. The ones that I have spotted (and I have not gone through them all) are Vintage TV and Challenge. Is anyone else experiencing this. Not really sure what to do,

http://www.lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-28A-and-Astra-1N-2A-2F.html

The channels have probably changed frequency. Have a look at the frequency list in the link above to find the channels new location.

I don't own the Ariva receiver but I'm sure you can do a search by individual transponder to find and store the channels, the manual should describe how to do it

brrabus

The Cush - Thanks for your reply, I will have a look at that list and also try to find the manual that I got with the receiver, have two so one be around somewhere. Never even crossed my mind that they could switch, I am not really tecky on this sort of stuff.

radiowaves

They have changed frequency.

12.305 H, 27.500, 2/3

brrabus

Thanks all for the education, I have now just got them back and have today learned how to search

john d nevin

hi brrabus, my challenge tv has also gone. i have tried several frequencies to try getit back again, could you please give me the frequency etc you had success with. many thanks!

The Cush

john d nevin wrote: »

my challenge tv has also gone. i have tried several frequencies to try getit back again,

http://www.flysat.com/28east.php

Challenge / Challenge +1 - 12304 H 27500 2/3

NUTZZ

It's going to be a rough period for generic FTA boxes as there will be a lot of channels moving around between 30th September & 4th October due to the ongoing dispute between Eutelsat and SES (Astra).

Satellite channels reshuffle as SES Astra takes over frequencies

Numerous satellite TV and radio stations serving viewers in the UK and Republic of Ireland are being shuffled around on new frequencies as a result of an ongoing legal battle between the two operators responsible for the satellites serving the British Isles.

Satellite TV operators are working hard to ensure services remain available on Sky and Freesat through the transitional period.

The changes affect services that have previously broadcast via the Eutelsat 28A satellite using a frequency band that rival SES (Astra) now claims as its own to use from the 4th October 2013. The matter continues to be fought in the courts, but a recent ruling in Germany resulted in Eutelsat being told to stop broadcasting services in the contested frequency band by 4th October. Consequently, services are now being transferred from Eutelsat to SES Astra's fleet of satellites.

Satellite uplink providers and platform operators have enacted plans to ensure viewers do not lose services during the transition, which mean that some frequency and parameter changes are taking place. Challenge has already changed frequencies in advance of the 4th October deadline, but next week will see a mass of migrations and temporary frequency allocations.

Channels including RT (standard definition version) are moving from Monday 30th September to temporary frequencies outside of the contested range. Then, from the 4th October, when SES (Astra) takes over the former Eutelsat frequencies, services will be simulcast via a new, final frequency as well as the temporary frequencies. After the 10th October, all affected services should continue on the new, final frequencies only.

The changes will mean that viewers with generic free-to-air satellite receivers will need to retune twice in the coming fortnight to continue receiving all available services, and to regain access to any missing channels, but viewers with Sky and Freesat should see little disruption to their service, with both satellite TV operators working hard to ensure that their Electronic Programme Guides automatically redirect receivers to whichever frequencies are currently in use.

radiowaves

The Cush wrote: »

http://www.flysat.com/28east.php

Challenge / Challenge +1 - 12304 H 27500 2/3

As already posted so the assumption is he's entering it wrong....

STB

radiowaves wrote: »

As already posted so the assumption is he's entering it wrong....

He may not realise that the new channel will be at the bottom of the Astra 2 list (unless he does a sort). It is likely that the old channel in the channel list is still being accessed by him. Delete the old one = no confusion.

mike65

here is the full list of channels that are migrating.

BET
BET +1
more>movies
Al Jazeera Eng
euronews
RT
CNBC
CCTV News
Movies4Men
Movies4Men+1
Travel Channel
The Active Channel
Holiday+Cruise
Zing UK
CLUBLAND TV
Planet Pop
heart tv
CAPITAL TV
SONY SAB
Capital FM
Choice FM
Classic FM
Gold
XFM
Absolute
Absolute 80s
JazzFM
PlanetRock
Smooth Radio
Insight Radio
TWR
Tristar
Gems TV
TV Shop
JML Direct
QVC Beauty
Rocks & Co1
HIGH STREET TV
S4C

irishcsifan

mike65 wrote: »

here is the full list of channels that are migrating.

BET
BET +1
more>movies
Al Jazeera Eng
euronews
RT
CNBC
CCTV News
Movies4Men
Movies4Men+1
Travel Channel
The Active Channel
Holiday+Cruise
Zing UK
CLUBLAND TV
Planet Pop
heart tv
CAPITAL TV
SONY SAB
Capital FM
Choice FM
Classic FM
Gold
XFM
Absolute
Absolute 80s
JazzFM
PlanetRock
Smooth Radio
Insight Radio
TWR
Tristar
Gems TV
TV Shop
JML Direct
QVC Beauty
Rocks & Co1
HIGH STREET TV
S4C

will the new frequencies but up for these soon

NUTZZ

irishcsifan wrote: »

will the new frequencies but up for these soon

BET
BET+1
Comedy Central+1 (UK)
Comedy Central (ROI)
Comedy Central+1 (ROI)
Comedy Central Extra (ROI)
Comedy Central Extra+1 (UK)
Nickelodeon Junior (ROI)
Nickelodeon Junior 2 (UK)
Nickelodeon Junior+1 (UK)
Nickelodeon (ROI)
51092 (Nickelodeon Junior 2 (ROI))**
51093 (MTV Music (ROI))**

** = Currently testing ahead of launch.

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.662 H, 27.500, 2/3 to 12.129 V, 27.500, 2/3.


Update

The channels listed below-

Al Jazeera English
Setanta Sports Ireland
Setanta Sports 1
Premier Sports
News Talk (Radio)
Premier Sports Extra (recently ceased broadcasting, waiting for label to be removed)
Movies4Men
Sony Movies
Movies4Men+1
Sony Movies +1
More>Movies+1
51122 (Setanta Sports Ireland (Commercial))**
51123 (Setanta Sports 1 (Commercial))**
IQRA TV

** = Currently testing ahead of launch.

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.681 V, 27.500, 2/3 to 12.422 H, 27.500, 2/3.

TV Shop
Rocks & Co 1
Record TV
Sangat
The Boutique
Sukh Sagar (Radio)
Capital Xtra (Radio)
UCB UK (Radio)
UCB Inspirational (Radio)
UCB Bible (Radio)
UCB Gospel (Radio)
XFM (Radio)
Capital FM (Radio)
Gold (Radio)
Khushkhabri (Radio)
Classic FM (Radio)
Planet Rock (Radio)
High Street TV
High Street Xtra
Brit Asia TV
Noor TV
Gems TV
Heart TV
Capital TV
Club Land TV
Planet Pop
ATN Bangla UK
NDTV 24x7
PTC Punjabi
UCB Ireland (Radio)

have now changed transponders, moving from 12.523 V, 27.500, 2/3 to 11.082 H, 22.000, 5/6.
Update

The channels listed below-

Motors TV
MUTV
BT Sport 1 (UK)
BT Sport 1 (Commercial)
Racing UK
BT Sport 2 (UK)
BT Sport 2 (Commercial)
ESPN (UK)
ESPN (Commercial)
S4C

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.527 V, 27.500, 2/3 to 10.979 V, 22.000, 5/6.


Update

The channels listed below-

Pavers Shoes TV
Geo News
ARY Entertainment
V Channel
Zee News
Zee TV
Zee Cinema
Zing
Zee Punjabi
Lamhe
Dating Channel

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.546 H, 27.500, 2/3 to 11.171 H, 22.000, 2/3.

The channels listed below-

BT Sport 1 HD (UK)
BT Sport 1 HD (Commercial)
BT Sport 2 HD (UK)
BT Sport 2 HD (Commercial)
ESPN HD (UK)
ESPN HD (Commercial)

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.585 H, 29.500, 3/4 to 11.156 V, 23.000, 8/9


Update

The channels listed below-

RT
Kiss (Radio)
Magic (Radio)
Abu Dhabi TV
Watch (ROI)
CNBC
PTV Global
Venus TV
Real Radio (Radio)
Smooth (Radio)
Vox Africa
Smart Live
Arise News (currently off air)

have now changed transponders, moving from 11.623 H, 27.500, 2/3 to 12.402 V, 27.500, 2/3

The Cush

irishcsifan wrote: »

will the new frequencies but up for these soon

You'll find them here
http://www.lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-28A-and-Astra-1N-2A-2F.html
http://www.flysat.com/28east.php
http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-28.2E.php

Tony

Here are some of the FTA changes I've come up so far . If anyone needs a channel list for the Ariva 150 please let me know and I'll post that up on the main 150 thread later

Movies for men 12422 27500 H and 12382 27500 H

Movies for men +1 12422 27500 H 12382 27500 H

More movies 11111 22000 H


Al jazeera Eng 12422 H 27500

CNBC 12402 V 27500

Euronews 12441 V 27500

bet 12129 27500 V

Showcase 11344 27500 H

Gospel channel 11344 27500 H

irishcsifan

The Cush wrote: »

You'll find them here
http://www.lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-28A-and-Astra-1N-2A-2F.html
http://www.flysat.com/28east.php
http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-28.2E.php

Thanks guys. I just spent an hour updating. Do you think they'll change again?

kooga

irishcsifan wrote: »

Thanks guys. I just spent an hour updating. Do you think they'll change again?

hope note some dose scanning away at the moment.............1 box done and still another to do. Ah well having a few beamish as we do it!

snaps

kooga wrote: »

hope note some dose scanning away at the moment.............1 box done and still another to do. Ah well having a few beamish as we do it!

for us expats, non UK beam:
Capital tv transponder: 12.522 v 22000 5/6

Bt sports/espn: 12.515 h 22000 5/6

Bt sports hd: 12.574 h qpsk 23000 8/9

radiowaves

irishcsifan wrote: »

Thanks guys. I just spent an hour updating. Do you think they'll change again?

These are, for the most part, temporary moves.

The new tps there from the 4th is the final home for the channels. Anything moved earlier than that will close in a few days.

mike65

Movies for men 12422 27500 H and 12382 27500 H

Movies for men +1 12422 27500 H 12382 27500 H

More movies 11111 22000 H

are all refusing to rescan on my freesat box which is odd. I'll try a manual input tomorrow.

Redskins

Tony wrote: »

Here are some of the FTA changes I've come up so far . If anyone needs a channel list for the Ariva 150 please let me know and I'll post that up on the main 150 thread

---

Tony, i could do with a new channel list for the Ariva 150 when you have it ready.

Dermot

Tony

Sure thing Dermot, its on the main 150 thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=86922334#post86922334

Redskins wrote: »

Tony wrote: »

Here are some of the FTA changes I've come up so far . If anyone needs a channel list for the Ariva 150 please let me know and I'll post that up on the main 150 thread

---

Tony, i could do with a new channel list for the Ariva 150 when you have it ready.

Dermot

Plascebo

mike65 wrote: »

are all refusing to rescan on my freesat box which is odd. I'll try a manual input tomorrow.

Same here, still can't rescan most FTA movie stations

radiowaves

Plascebo wrote: »

Same here, still can't rescan most FTA movie stations

If your box hasn't got the necessary details, it can't scan.

The channels quoted are on brand new transponders, you may need to manually input the transponder details.

mike65

Did a fresh freesat installation and have them back.

Tony

Changed again last night but should stay at these freqs

This is what I've found so far on FTA

Al jazeera Eng 12634 22000 H

Bet 12603 22000 H

CNBC 12610 22000 V

Euronews 12662 22000 H

Movies for men 12633 22000 H

Movies for men +1 12633 22000 H

Newstalk 12633 22000 H


I'll post up a new channel list firmware on the main ariva 150 thread ASAP

Zardoz

Tony wrote: »

Changed again last night but should stay at these freqs

Indeed they did.
My wife was watching The Object of My Affection on Sony Movies at around midnight when it went blank with around 10 minutes left in the film .She was not happy.

Tony

Not good but hopefully they should be stable for quite some time . Is sony movies FTA ?

Zardoz wrote: »

Indeed they did.
My wife was watching The Object of My Affection on Sony Movies at around midnight when it went blank with around 10 minutes left in the film .She was not happy.

seligehgit

Zardoz wrote: »

Indeed they did.
My wife was watching The Object of My Affection on Sony Movies at around midnight when it went blank with around 10 minutes left in the film .She was not happy.

These constant changes are a bit of a joke.:mad:

Tony

Sorry you are annoyed but they hardly fit the description of "constant changes". They had no choice but to move to temporary freqs given the court case.

seligehgit wrote: »

These constant changes are a bit of a joke.:mad:

Zardoz

Tony wrote: »

Not good but hopefully they should be stable for quite some time . Is sony movies FTA ?

Sony Movies is FTV on a Setanta card, Tony.

Tony

Zardoz wrote: »

Sony Movies is FTV on a Setanta card, Tony.

Ah ok Thanks for the info

seligehgit

Tony wrote: »

Sorry you are annoyed but they hardly fit the description of "constant changes". They had no choice but to move to temporary freqs given the court case.

Sorry Tony,poor use of words.No idea re any court case??

NUTZZ

seligehgit wrote: »

Sorry Tony,poor use of words.No idea re any court case??

Posted in this thread already;

Satellite channels reshuffle as SES Astra takes over frequencies

Numerous satellite TV and radio stations serving viewers in the UK and Republic of Ireland are being shuffled around on new frequencies as a result of an ongoing legal battle between the two operators responsible for the satellites serving the British Isles.

Satellite TV operators are working hard to ensure services remain available on Sky and Freesat through the transitional period.

The changes affect services that have previously broadcast via the Eutelsat 28A satellite using a frequency band that rival SES (Astra) now claims as its own to use from the 4th October 2013. The matter continues to be fought in the courts, but a recent ruling in Germany resulted in Eutelsat being told to stop broadcasting services in the contested frequency band by 4th October. Consequently, services are now being transferred from Eutelsat to SES Astra's fleet of satellites.

Satellite uplink providers and platform operators have enacted plans to ensure viewers do not lose services during the transition, which mean that some frequency and parameter changes are taking place. Challenge has already changed frequencies in advance of the 4th October deadline, but next week will see a mass of migrations and temporary frequency allocations.

Channels including RT (standard definition version) are moving from Monday 30th September to temporary frequencies outside of the contested range. Then, from the 4th October, when SES (Astra) takes over the former Eutelsat frequencies, services will be simulcast via a new, final frequency as well as the temporary frequencies. After the 10th October, all affected services should continue on the new, final frequencies only.

The changes will mean that viewers with generic free-to-air satellite receivers will need to retune twice in the coming fortnight to continue receiving all available services, and to regain access to any missing channels, but viewers with Sky and Freesat should see little disruption to their service, with both satellite TV operators working hard to ensure that their Electronic Programme Guides automatically redirect receivers to whichever frequencies are currently in use.

stanley1

Zardoz wrote: »

Sony Movies is FTV on a Setanta card, Tony.

Finding a lot of glitching on Sony Movies, anyone experiencing this?

TIA

mike65

It takes a couple of seconds for the box to get a picture on the Movies4Men/More>Movies channels and then a moment for the soundtrack to appear. Its like they are a "hares breath" from not being there.

radiowaves

seligehgit wrote: »

These constant changes are a bit of a joke.:mad:

Well they're finished now; they were kind of necessary and they woudln;t have affected 99.9% of viewers so I'm guessing those that manage these things will live with your wrath :P

john d nevin

radiowaves wrote: »

As already posted so the assumption is he's entering it wrong....

hi i have tried entering 12304 27500 and when the signal strengh shows up it is very low, therefore not picking up any channels, does anyone have any suggestions for this? i also rang a relation who installs these boxes and he gave me a signal 12188 27500 - which also does not work.
challenge is pretty much the only channel i watch so i really want it back!
thanks alot!

The Cush

john d nevin wrote: »

hi i have tried entering 12304 27500 and when the signal strengh shows up it is very low, therefore not picking up any channels, does anyone have any suggestions for this?

Did you also enter the correct polarisation - H (Horizontal) and FEC - 2/3?

radiowaves

john d nevin wrote: »

hi i have tried entering 12304 27500 and when the signal strengh shows up it is very low, therefore not picking up any channels, does anyone have any suggestions for this? i also rang a relation who installs these boxes and he gave me a signal 12188 27500 - which also does not work.
challenge is pretty much the only channel i watch so i really want it back!
thanks alot!

12304 is the correct transponder. Make sure you have it set to Horizontal (FEC settings usually don't matter but set to 2/3 or Auto) and make sure you have DVB-S selected (as opposed to DVB-S2).

Tony

seligehgit wrote: »

Sorry Tony,poor use of words.No idea re any court case??

No problem, there was a row between two operators who run the satellites at 28 degrees

john d nevin

can some one please explain how i check what the FEC is? im sure its fine as I can tune other stations, for some reason 12304/27500/H just wont pick up any signal (well 30-40% signal) i searched for other stations today on other frequencies and they came up no problem, with 90% signal strenght. again, any help. thanks alot.

radiowaves

john d nevin wrote: »

can some one please explain how i check what the FEC is? im sure its fine as I can tune other stations, for some reason 12304/27500/H just wont pick up any signal (well 30-40% signal) i searched for other stations today on other frequencies and they came up no problem, with 90% signal strenght. again, any help. thanks alot.

As explained already, on a DVB-S transponder it really doesn't matter what FEC you input it'll find the channels - but you should find it in your settings menu.

The Cush

john d nevin wrote: »

can some one please explain how i check what the FEC is? im sure its fine as I can tune other stations, for some reason 12304/27500/H just wont pick up any signal (well 30-40% signal)

What satellite receiver are you using? Do you have the manual?

FEC (forward error correction) should be on the same settings page as the frequency, polarisation etc.

Some receivers have this preset to auto so that no selection is required, others give you the option to select "auto FEC" or the correct figure.
The only other thing I can suggest within the settings, as suggested above, is that the receiver is set to DVB-S with QPSK modulation if these options are available.

One other thing, is there any home cordless phones about? I don't think they affect that particular frequency but no harm checking.

B.A._Baracus

I noticed these channels were disappearing from my freesat box. So I just entered a London postcode (was using a belfast one previously) did a re-scan and they all came back again.

But whats the crack with the mention of Comedy Central, etc. Are they free to air now or something?

Koloman

john d nevin wrote: »

can some one please explain how i check what the FEC is? im sure its fine as I can tune other stations, for some reason 12304/27500/H just wont pick up any signal (well 30-40% signal) i searched for other stations today on other frequencies and they came up no problem, with 90% signal strenght. again, any help. thanks alot.

I seem to have the exact same problem. I was able to tune in all the other channels that had moved except for Challenge.

Signal quality 10%, signal intensity 45%. I am using an Ariva 150. On my freesat box Challange is there.

roise2000

Folks if any help I was having difficulty finding chalenge on 12304H 27500 - I have ariva 250 - however when I searched under freebird1 option (instead of Astra) I found it. Hope this helps

john d nevin

roise2000 wrote: »

Folks if any help I was having difficulty finding chalenge on 12304H 27500 - I have ariva 250 - however when I searched under freebird1 option (instead of Astra) I found it. Hope this helps

excellent! thats work a charm! thanks a million!

snaps

Have they all moved around again since last week??

The Falcon

I'm looking to order the Ariva 250 but see it is listed as 'currently out of stock'. Wondering if this has anything to do with the issues listed above and if I should park the idea.

I like the idea of the combi box as the wife watches the Irish channels - We have Sky + in the sitting room and bedroom - The plan was to get a combi box in the conservatory.

Tony

The Falcon wrote: »

I'm looking to order the Ariva 250 but see it is listed as 'currently out of stock'.

Just a coincidence, I'm sure you can find a dealer who has one