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Employer denying one's right to vote

  • 01-10-2013 10:23AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭


    My partner is from the pale, and it is still her voting constituency.

    However she lives and works currently in the wesht.

    Her employer is refusing to let her take time off (probably just an hour or two) to return home to vote this Friday.

    Am I correct in saying this infringes on certain rights? Or is it just me who finds this wrong?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭TheBody


    My partner is from the pale, and it is still her voting constituency.

    However she lives and works currently in the wesht.

    Her employer is refusing to let her take time off (probably just an hour or two) to return home to vote this Friday.

    Am I correct in saying this infringes on certain rights? Or is it just me who finds this wrong?

    Why didn't your partner transfer her vote to where ye live?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Why isn't she registered to vote where she resides most of the time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Polling stations will be open from 7am to 10pm:
    http://www.referendum.ie/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    If she lives in the west then she should register her vote as such. Secondly she can vote from 7am to 10pm so let her do it on her own time!!!! Thirdly no her rights are not being infringed upon


  • Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    She presumably had the opportunity to move her vote - why didn't she?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The employer usually gives an hour off for voting.
    Will your partner manage to get to the pale and back in that time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    My partner is from the pale, and it is still her voting constituency.

    However she lives and works currently in the wesht.

    Her employer is refusing to let her take time off (probably just an hour or two) to return home to vote this Friday.

    Am I correct in saying this infringes on certain rights? Or is it just me who finds this wrong?

    The polls are open 7am to 10pm, I would assume plenty of time to get from the West to Dublin. Assuming finish work at 5 or 6 then 4 to 5 hours to get there and Vote.

    While your OH has a right to vote her employer does not have to give her time off to do so, it's why the polls are open 13 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    There is no right to time off for voting - that's why the polls are open for so long, to accommodate different working patterns. Your missus should be registered to vote in the west where she lives, it's her fault not her employers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    Thanks for the replies.

    She has just moved to Galway and is returning east shortly and unfortunately it slipped her mind.

    Unfortunately it is a 3hr 40 minutes drive from her place of work (Renvyle, Galway to Drogheda) so it's quite tight, seeing as she finishes at 6:15pm.

    Not that any of our circumstances matter, and I'm disappointed so many highlighted our details which are irrelevant as opposed to help me out with the question that I stated at the top - I wondered if rights were being infringed. It seems they aren't.

    Thank you to those who replied to my question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    She was probably going to vote wrong anyway :D

    But yeah, it's not the employers fault she's still registered in the pale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Is drogheda in the pale now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale
    The Pale (An Pháil in Irish) or the English Pale (An Pháil Shasanach), was the part of Ireland that was directly under the control of the English government in the late Middle Ages. It had been reduced by the late 15th century to an area along the east coast stretching from Dalkey, south of Dublin, to the garrison town of Dundalk

    For history buffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    biko wrote: »
    She was probably going to vote wrong anyway :D

    But yeah, it's not the employers fault she's still registered in the pale.

    She'd be given a second go even if she did so its ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Brego888


    My mistake. Had always assumed it was the greater Dublin area, didn't think it stretched that far north.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    biko wrote: »
    She was probably going to vote wrong anyway :D

    But yeah, it's not the employers fault she's still registered in the pale.

    Forget I said anything about location or anything.

    I was simple curious if in circumstances employers legally had to give people an hour or two off to vote.

    That's all. It doesn't matter if my partner forgot to change constituencies, it doesn't matter how far away she is, and it doesn't matter if Drogheda is in the Pale or not (it is. :P )

    Oh after hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    If you're complaining about the quality of responses then you shouldn't have posted in After Hours.

    If I'm forced to answer questions seriously I feel like my rights are being infringed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    If you're complaining about the quality of responses then you shouldn't have posted in After Hours.

    If I'm forced to answer questions seriously I feel like my rights are being infringed.

    I know. I feel like an amateur. :( And return my stars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Thanks for the replies.

    She has just moved to Galway and is returning east shortly and unfortunately it slipped her mind.

    Unfortunately it is a 3hr 40 minutes drive from her place of work (Renvyle, Galway to Drogheda) so it's quite tight, seeing as she finishes at 6:15pm.

    Not that any of our circumstances matter, and I'm disappointed so many highlighted our details which are irrelevant as opposed to help me out with the question that I stated at the top - I wondered if rights were being infringed. It seems they aren't.

    Thank you to those who replied to my question.

    Ironic you give out about emotive responses given the thread title


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I know. I feel like an amateur. :( And return my stars.

    So the question remains: with a 15 hour voting window, why can she not vote before or after work? Yes, it may mean getting up at 6am or returnign home at about 9, but she CAN still vote, which proves that the employer is not infrigining her rights.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Thanks for the replies.

    She has just moved to Galway and is returning east shortly and unfortunately it slipped her mind.

    Unfortunately it is a 3hr 40 minutes drive from her place of work (Renvyle, Galway to Drogheda) so it's quite tight, seeing as she finishes at 6:15pm.

    Not that any of our circumstances matter, and I'm disappointed so many highlighted our details which are irrelevant as opposed to help me out with the question that I stated at the top - I wondered if rights were being infringed. It seems they aren't.

    Thank you to those who replied to my question.

    Interesting (and correct!) that you referred to Drogheda as The Pale. Usually people forget it encompassed more than just Dublin.

    Edit: Just saw posts discussing it above.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    My partner is from the pale, and it is still her voting constituency.

    However she lives and works currently in the wesht.

    Her employer is refusing to let her take time off (probably just an hour or two) to return home to vote this Friday.

    Am I correct in saying this infringes on certain rights? Or is it just me who finds this wrong?

    You are wrong, Your partner should be registered to vote where she lives not where she is from.
    There is no onus on employers to grant time off so workers can vote, the polls are open for 12 hours or more to accommodate workers.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Am afraid its you. No rights infringed. Can she star 30 mins earlier to get a headstart? Fair old trek to vote!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Boggers are often obsessed with keeping their vote in de cohnstichuancy for some reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    isn't there a postal vote option in the rep?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    isn't there a postal vote option in the rep?

    Not unless you're in the military.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    isn't there a postal vote option in the rep?

    Yes but you have to be working in a job that requires you to work away from home e.g. Soldier

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    isn't there a postal vote option in the rep?

    No, afaik, except for Guards/Defence Forces/ and diplomatic staff serving away from home.
    And I think some people with disabilities also get a postal vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Boggers are often obsessed with keeping their vote in de cohnstichuancy for some reason

    But this example is exactly the reverse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    But this example is exactly the reverse.

    Drogheda is hardly the big schmoke now (even if it is in the pale)


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    stimpson wrote: »
    Drogheda is hardly the big schmoke now (even if it is in the pale)

    It would be a "lighter shade of pale".. ;)


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