Recruitment to begin in 2014

Josh95

The first recruitment of gardaí in more than five years will take place next year.

However, Justice Minister Alan Shatter said that he cannot say just yet how many new recruits will be taken in.

A ban on hiring new officers has been in place since 2009 as part of a moratorium in the public sector.

Alan Shatter said that that will be determined by a calculation of retirements so that the number of officers does not fall below 13,000.

Minister Shatter said back in July that this was "very important for an organisation like An Garda Síochána, given the demanding nature of policing, to receive a reasonably regular intake of new recruits".

Speaking today, the Minister told the Dáil he expects the demand to be a garda to be significant going by expressions of interest.

"There's a very substantial… administrative job to be done in the context of the recruitment process" he said.

"There's been an advertisement even issued - in the region of 30,000 individuals have expressed an interest in joining An Garda Síochána".

"So I'm very pleased that we will be recruiting next year."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/garda-recruitment-to-begin-again-next-year-608104.html

I just thought I'd mention they're recruiting again soon although we have no idea how many will be taken on! I'm definitely going to apply and try get in.

thekopend

Nothing more than what was said already, it's the opening of the competition were expecting to hear of now, not them waffling on about something they have already said, they never seem to say when it will start tho!!

King Ludvig

Does this mean the "recruitment process" now won't start until the new year or are we still on course for applications to start in the next couple of weeks with an actual intake entering Templemore in the new year I wonder???

Canyon86

Josh95 wrote: »

The first recruitment of gardaí in more than five years will take place next year.

However, Justice Minister Alan Shatter said that he cannot say just yet how many new recruits will be taken in.

A ban on hiring new officers has been in place since 2009 as part of a moratorium in the public sector.

Alan Shatter said that that will be determined by a calculation of retirements so that the number of officers does not fall below 13,000.

Minister Shatter said back in July that this was "very important for an organisation like An Garda Síochána, given the demanding nature of policing, to receive a reasonably regular intake of new recruits".

Speaking today, the Minister told the Dáil he expects the demand to be a garda to be significant going by expressions of interest.

"There's a very substantial… administrative job to be done in the context of the recruitment process" he said.

"There's been an advertisement even issued - in the region of 30,000 individuals have expressed an interest in joining An Garda Síochána".

"So I'm very pleased that we will be recruiting next year."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/garda-recruitment-to-begin-again-next-year-608104.html

I just thought I'd mention they're recruiting again soon although we have no idea how many will be taken on! I'm definitely going to apply and try get in.

So,
Its put on hold again for a few months?

Some disaster!

This country is so slow doing anything!

Canyon86

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-recruits-to-be-put-on-beat-after-32-weeks-training-29611588.html

Santa Cruz

It's just another stunt by FG. Announce a start in recruiting every few months to give the impression that thee is actual recruiting.
Anyone considering joining the Gardaí can get used to such cynical political posturing and political interference in the operation of the police.

djor88

Just saying what they've been saying all year, trying to keep people on their side. It will happen, and when it does it's going to be an incredibly competitive process, I wonder will the salary, allowances etc be reviewed and different to current Gardai? Any ideas?

Canyon86

djor88 wrote: »

Just saying what they've been saying all year, trying to keep people on their side. It will happen, and when it does it's going to be an incredibly competitive process, I wonder will the salary, allowances etc be reviewed and different to current Gardai? Any ideas?

Talks of rent allowance going,and the increments.,

but who knows,

you are right about it being a competitive process djor

King Ludvig

Some of the latest written answers from Kildare Street for anyone interested. Nothing particularly new other than confirmation that a change in the educational requirements is under consideration.

Charlie McConalogue (Donegal North East, Fianna Fail)
To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality the likely time frame for recruitment to An Garda Síochána; and if he will make a statement on the matter.


Alan Shatter (Minister, Department of Justice, Equality and Defence; Dublin South, Fine Gael)
Before recruitment can commence, there are a number of procedural issues that need to be finalised prior to the formal commencement of the process which I expect to get underway in the coming weeks, with the first students entering the Garda College in Templemore, Co Tipperary in mid-2014.
The competition will be run by the Public Appointments Service on behalf of the Garda Commissioner. An announcement will be issued as soon as recruitment starts, both on their website (www.publicjobs.ie) and directly to those who have registered an expression of interest in joining the Garda Síochána.
Persons who would like to join An Garda Síochána and have not yet registered their interest in doing so may sign up at .

Gerald Nash
991. To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality his plans to maintain the existing Garda Siochana panel in place since 2008 for the purposes of future Garda recruitment; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Alan Shatter
In view of the fact that the existing Garda recruitment panel is now approximately five years old, the Commissioner has determined, with my consent, that the maximum number of recruits has been recruited from that panel. People not called from that panel may, of course, re-apply to join the Garda Síochána once they meet the eligibility criteria. The number of recruits to be drawn down from this new competition will be determined taking a number of factors into account including the current and projected strength of the force, the expected retirement rate and the availability of resources.

Michael Healy-Rae
To ask the Minister for Justice and Equality in view of the fact that the Garda Commissioner has stated that the figure of 13,000 Gardai is the critical low line figure and the assurance of a recruitment campaign commencing in the future, if the length it time it takes for Gardai to be trained and brought into the Force not dictate that this baseline figure according to the Commissioner will be broken and will the Force not be at a critically low level at this stage; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Alan Shatter
I am informed by the Garda Commissioner that the strength of An Garda Síochána, as of the 31 August 2013, the latest date for which figures are readily available, was 13,190.

While it is difficult to predict with any certainty the number of Garda members who will retire in any year, given that members with 30 years service may retire on full pension after the age of 50, a retirement rate in line with recent experience could see Garda strength approaching 13,000 by the end of this year. I have said that, while there will always be fluctuations in Garda strength because of varying rates of retirement and the time it takes to train recruits, my preferred target strength for the Garda Síochána is 13,000.
As the Deputy is aware, I have secured the approval of my colleague, the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, for a recruitment competition for the Garda Síochána. Before recruitment can commence, there are a number of procedural issues that need to be finalised prior to the formal commencement of the process which I expect to get underway in the coming weeks, with the first students entering the Garda College in Templemore, Co Tipperary, in mid-2014.

John O'Mahony (Mayo, Fine Gael)
I thank the Ceann Comhairle for choosing this subject for the Topical Issue debate. A few days ago, the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, announced that Garda recruitment would recommence towards the end of this year. It was a very welcome announcement not only for those who will apply and be successful, but also because it underlines the Government's commitment to maintain Garda numbers at a certain level.
What are the timelines involved? In other words, when will the training period commence in Templemore? In the past, the training model for gardaí took almost two years, but I understand that a different model will be used henceforth, which will last nine months. Perhaps the Minister of State could clarify that point.

According to the Minister's statement, some 27,000 applications have been made for Garda recruitment, which is a huge number. I expect that when the applications are processed, the figure may be even greater.
When will applications be accepted? Prior to the moratorium on recruitment a number of applicants, having passed their medicals, had been placed on a panel and were waiting to be called to attend Templemore for training. What recognition will be given to these people? It would be unfair if this were totally discounted and those applicants had to reapply. I understand some of them may have gone abroad or moved on to other careers. However, it is important those who have not are given some recognition for having been already on the panel. I understand 400 successful applicants had been placed on that panel, all of whom had a real expectation of recruitment. What is their position?

Also, there are currently 1,200 Garda Reserves, who while doing a good job have a different status from that of gardaí. I assume many of them would also like to apply for recruitment to the Garda Síochána. Will recognition be given to their having volunteered as a Garda Reserve?



Kathleen Lynch (Cork North Central, Labour)
I thank Deputy O'Mahony for raising this matter, which I am taking on behalf of the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, who is attending a Justice and Home Affairs ministerial meeting in Vilnius today.
The House will be aware that the Minister announced on Monday that he had received sanction from his colleague the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Deputy Howlin, to hold a recruitment competition for An Garda Síochána. This is a very welcome development and the Minister is grateful to Minster, Deputy Howlin, for his sanction to proceed with this competition. The Minster firmly believes that, despite the general public service moratorium on recruitment, and the continuing financial constraints, an organisation like An Garda Síochána should have an intake of new members, even if at a modest level, on a regular basis.

Given the procedures that need to be put in place in advance of recruitment commencing, the anticipated high number of applications, the selection process and the formation of a panel, it will be 2014 before students will enter the Garda college in Templemore to begin training. The competition will be run by the Public Appointments Service. As things stand, some 27,000 expressions of interest have been received from persons wishing to join the Garda Síochána. The Minister expects there will be a large number of applications once the recruitment process formally opens. It is too early at this stage to indicate how many persons might be recruited, as this will depend on a number of factors including the rate of retirements.

The student-probationer training programme upon which these students will be embarking has been radically restructured. The main difference between it and the earlier programme is that the new programme carries a greater emphasis on operational policing and focuses on real life scenarios which, in turn, prepare students better for the policing challenges they will face. The new programme will also instil a lifelong learning philosophy for members of the Garda Síochána, with a suite of mandatory and elective courses being made available. In the light of this revised training programme, and in view of the fact that the existing Garda recruitment panel is now approximately five years old, it will not be used in this or any future recruitment. Of course, people on the panel may reapply to join the Garda Síochána, once they meet the eligibility criteria.

In addition to the review of the training programme in the Garda College, the Commissioner has also considered whether some changes could be made in the area of educational requirements, to align them with the national framework of qualifications, while at the same time using the leaving certificate as an optional entry level requirement. The objective would be to align educational requirements with the official framework as well as open up access to those who may not have completed the leaving certificate but have completed another course which demonstrates their abilities, perhaps in a less academic environment. Such a change could also make it more straightforward to recognise qualifications achieved outside Ireland as the framework provides a comparative tool with qualifications gained outside the State. A decision will be taken on this as part of the preparations for the holding of a competition.

The Minister is determined that the resources of An Garda Síochána will be used in the best, most effective and efficient way possible. The House will be aware that the agreement reached with the Garda associations includes a provision for a review of the Garda Síochána and that this review includes the structure, organisation and staffing of An Garda Síochána. The review is due to start in September of this year and to be completed in June of next year. The Minister remains confident that the primary Garda objective of combating crime will continue to be achieved, and that, despite the pressure on the public finances, the force will continue, with this fresh impetus of new recruitment, its excellent work of preventing and detecting criminal behaviour.

Relevant sources:

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2013-09-19a.365&s=garda+recruitment

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2013-09-18a.2730&s=garda+recruitment

http://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2013-09-18a.2994&s=garda+recruitment#g2995.q

http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2013-07-18a.397&s=garda+recruitment#g400

thekopend

"Before recruitment can commence, there are a number of procedural issues that need to be finalised prior to the formal commencement of the process which I expect to get underway in the coming weeks,"

We'll at leased this clears up the doubt about the process starting in a few weeks. Comments the minister made yesterday were confusing, made me doubt if it was starting in 2013 at all.

kay1967

how can Alan Shatter justify not recruiting the young men and women who were informed in 2008 that they were in the next stage? Many of these people have based major decisions like moving abroad, buying a home or retraining in college on the fact that they thought they were next to be called up.....its very very unfair!!!

Santa Cruz

kay1967 wrote: »

how can Alan Shatter justify not recruiting the young men and women who were informed in 2008 that they were in the next stage? Many of these people have based major decisions like moving abroad, buying a home or retraining in college on the fact that they thought they were next to be called up.....its very very unfair!!!

Because he is a politician

Section_4

kay1967 wrote: »

how can Alan Shatter justify not recruiting the young men and women who were informed in 2008 that they were in the next stage? Many of these people have based major decisions like moving abroad, buying a home or retraining in college on the fact that they thought they were next to be called up.....its very very unfair!!!

The candidates on the scrapped panel were never offered a position in AGS and therefore should not have made any life changing decisions or purchases based on the assumption that they were going to be offered a position. This is made explicitly clear to every applicant at every stage of the recruitment process.

I sympathise with the position of candidates from the scraped panel however I disagree with such alarmist opinions as yours.

kay1967

My post is not an "alarmist opinion"....it is a "decent human being" opinion...I feel so sorry for them!

Section_4

kay1967 wrote: »

My post is not an "alarmist opinion"....it is a "decent human being" opinion...I feel so sorry for them!

It is clearly an alarmist position to present. You are sensationalising the fact the the old panel will not be used by suggesting its individual constituents made sweeping, life changing decisions based on the assumption they would become Gardaí and that the disbanding of the panel was done without due consideration for the implications such an action may have on them. This despite the fact that it is made unequivocally clear to every candidate that, regardless of their stage of advancement, they are not guaranteed progression to the subsequent stage.

I think there are very few people who would not sympathise with those who received the letter informing them that the panel is defunct. That being said there is no need to spout the typical anti government, populist drivel that muddies up forums like this to reinforce their sentiment.

HighburyLad

I do sympathise for those on the panel who were eagerly awaiting the call for the go ahead, and I really wouldn't want to be in the position myself, as I am sure it is heartbreaking, however five years is a long time, and anything can happen within that time frame, five years ago I was 17 a kid, now I am an adult wanting to make a decision to make policing a career, and I know there will be many others in a similar position to me, so if the panel was to go ahead there would be no hope for the likes of myself or others, especially when they've spoken about stagnation within the Garda because of the moratorium on recruitment, just my few cents on it, I really do sympathise, but in a bittersweet way, I am glad I have an opportunity for this upcoming campaign

thekopend

Don't forget people could very well find themselves on a panel after this recruitment, ye will be doing nothing but hopeing that ye will be braught forward for training yourselves then !

kay1967

Section 24, that's my opinion and I am sticking to it as you are entitled to yours!.....has it ever happened before that a panel was blown out of the water like this...maybe I am wrong but I don't think so....why now??

kay1967

Highburylad: I do understand where you are coming from and wish you the best of luck, I just feel that 5 years is a long time to be living in hope....I pray that you and the many others who apply this time aren't waiting as long for the same thing to happen again!

Section_4

kay1967 wrote: »

Section 24, that's my opinion and I am sticking to it as you are entitled to yours!.....has it ever happened before that a panel was blown out of the water like this...maybe I am wrong but I don't think so....why now??

Again with the sensationalism; nothing was 'blown out of the water'.

Yes, there have been several examples of previous panels being scrapped across the entire public sector including AGS. The most recent example being the last DFB panel which saw over 200 candidates being rejected followed by the announcement of a new recruitment process and entry requirements.

The panel was no doubt scrapped for many reasons, the catalyst for acting on those reasons and disbanding it being the upcoming recruitment campaign.

pa990

When the last phase 1 enter Templemore ?

annlewis

pa990 wrote: »

When the last phase 1 enter Templemore ?

When was the last class to enter Templemore ? May 2009 was the last class to go into the college

thekopend

Hon the banner!!!

Raider190

The expectation may be different to the reality
I would say 90 to 100 will be recruited and let's assume that 50 percent will go to members sons and daughters , and another 20 percent go to minorities and then 20 percent go to serving reserves. Doesn't leave a lot of places left

Section_4

Raider190 wrote: »

The expectation may be different to the reality
I would say 90 to 100 will be recruited and let's assume that 50 percent will go to members sons and daughters , and another 20 percent go to minorities and then 20 percent go to serving reserves. Doesn't leave a lot of places left

You're taking a bit of bollox there.

As per every Public Appoint Garda recruit candidates are called to interview according to the score they obtain in the initial aptitude test(s). So that leaves your 90 to 100 places up for grabs for the best and most apt few hundred candidates that are fortunate and competent enough to get an interview. An interview by a panel of three, two of which have no professional connection to AGS and are usually HR or legal professionals working for, or contracted to, the Public Appointments service.

Some Garda you'd make holding a grudge against minorities and reserves.

Raider190

Section_4 wrote: »

You're taking a bit of bollox there.

As per every Public Appoint Garda recruit candidates are called to interview according to the score they obtain in the initial aptitude test(s). So that leaves your 90 to 100 places up for grabs for the best and most apt few hundred candidates that are fortunate and competent enough to get an interview. An interview by a panel of three, two of which have no professional connection to AGS and are usually HR or legal professionals working for, or contracted to, the Public Appointments service.

Some Garda you'd make holding a grudge against minorities and reserves.

For those of us who live in the real world a and not some fantasy island as you appear to be ,the system is not fair ,ask the recent panel members who got shafted after 5 years of waiting .

And for your information I am a serving member and don't hold any grudges but have an excellent understanding how the system works .

Raider190

Section_4 wrote: »

You're taking a bit of bollox there.

As per every Public Appoint Garda recruit candidates are called to interview according to the score they obtain in the initial aptitude test(s). So that leaves your 90 to 100 places up for grabs for the best and most apt few hundred candidates that are fortunate and competent enough to get an interview. An interview by a panel of three, two of which have no professional connection to AGS and are usually HR or legal professionals working for, or contracted to, the Public Appointments service.

Some Garda you'd make holding a grudge against minorities and reserves.

You are obviously very young with little life experience so I will overlook the bad language

Section_4

Raider190 wrote: »

You are obviously very young with little life experience so I will overlook the bad language

If thinking that makes you happy carry on!

I'm not going to lower my standards and devolve into an online bickering match suffice to say that mature, intelligent and experienced individals tend to attack the post (ie I think your original statement was baseless and carried no merit) and not the poster (I passed comment based on my perception of your poor attitude towards minority citizens and Reserve Gardaí, your character was not debased by doing so). Maybe try adopting that approach the next time and we could have a stimulating exchange of ideas, it will provide a better read for everyone in contrast to getting upset and banding about buzz words like young, inexperienced etc.

And next time don't forget to state that you're a RESERVE member of AGS, don't try and misrepresent yourself as a Member, parlance for a full time Garda.

We've taken the thread off topic now so maybe we can just agree to disagree and let the thread return to topic.

Raider190

Section_4 wrote: »

If thinking that makes you happy carry on!

I'm not going to lower my standards and devolve into an online bickering match suffice to say that mature, intelligent and experienced individals tend to attack the post (ie I think your original statement was baseless and carried no merit) and not the poster (I passed comment based on my perception of your poor attitude towards minority citizens and Reserve Gardaí, your character was not debased by doing so). Maybe try adopting that approach the next time and we could have a stimulating exchange of ideas, it will provide a better read for everyone in contrast to getting upset and banding about buzz words like young, inexperienced etc.

And next time don't forget to state that you're a RESERVE member of AGS, don't try and misrepresent yourself as a Member, parlance for a full time Garda.

We've taken the thread off topic now so maybe we can just agree to disagree and let the thread return to topic.

First of all it was your comment regarding grudges and your use of bad language which prompted my reply. For one who promotes stimulating exchange of ideas you lower yourself to using bad language ,hardly an intelligent approach. Your preception was wrong and your comments insulting and the story of Murphy's Dog seems to apply here. You can give it but can't take it.
As for your accusation of misrepresenting myself. Had you taken the time to research the subject you would have discovered that there is no such thing as a reserve member. We are attested and sworn members of An Garda Siochana and carry the rank of Reserve Garda. Given your comments I will apply the adage of Hanlons Razor and wish you well in your future endeavours and your application to join An Garda Siochana but I do advocate less preception and more a reliance on hard facts or at least a more focused approach to your research before you comment again

Section_4

Raider190 wrote: »

First of all it was your comment regarding grudges and your use of bad language which prompted my reply. For one who promotes stimulating exchange of ideas you lower yourself to using bad language ,hardly an intelligent approach. Your preception was wrong and your comments insulting and the story of Murphy's Dog seems to apply here. You can give it but can't take it.
As for your accusation of misrepresenting myself. Had you taken the time to research the subject you would have discovered that there is no such thing as a reserve member. We are attested and sworn members of An Garda Siochana and carry the rank of Reserve Garda. Given your comments I will apply the adage of Hanlons Razor and wish you well in your future endeavours and your application to join An Garda Siochana but I do advocate less preception and more a reliance on hard facts or at least a more focused approach to your research before you comment again

Criminology student perhaps?

In an effort to progress this thread I will move beyond and ignore the numerous, thinly veiled insults and derisive comments regarding my intelligence you have just passed my way, again, and for the sake of pacification acknowledge and applaud the consideration and effort you put into writing your condescending retort.

I would ask that you, as an an enlightened and informed member of AGS who holds the rank of Reserve Garda, could elaborate on where you obtained the 'hard facts' regarding the allocation of 50 places to direct relatives of serving, full time, members of AGS, 20 places to 'minorities' and '20' places to serving Reserve Gardaí?

mycro89

Section_4 wrote: »

Criminology student perhaps?

In an effort to progress this thread I will move beyond and ignore the numerous, thinly veiled insults and derisive comments regarding my intelligence you have just passed my way, again, and for the sake of pacification acknowledge and applaud the consideration and effort you put into writing your condescending retort.

I would ask that you, as an an enlightened and informed member of AGS who holds the rank of Reserve Garda, could elaborate on where you obtained the 'hard facts' regarding the allocation of 50 places to direct relatives of serving, full time, members of AGS, 20 places to 'minorities' and '20' places to serving Reserve Gardaí?

Less fighting lads, can people remain calm and collective and stick to the subject and known facts without throwing remarks at others!!

Raider190

Section_4 wrote: »

Criminology student perhaps?

In an effort to progress this thread I will move beyond and ignore the numerous, thinly veiled insults and derisive comments regarding my intelligence you have just passed my way, again, and for the sake of pacification acknowledge and applaud the consideration and effort you put into writing your condescending retort.

I would ask that you, as an an enlightened and informed member of AGS who holds the rank of Reserve Garda, could elaborate on where you obtained the 'hard facts' regarding the allocation of 50 places to direct relatives of serving, full time, members of AGS, 20 places to 'minorities' and '20' places to serving Reserve Gardaí?

My dealings and responses to your innate scribblings are at an end. You seem very determined to extract information which leads me to believe you may be a journalist and if this is the case I will have nothing to do with you.

annlewis

So as the thread is called "recruitment to begin......" anyone have any idea as to when it will ... begin ?

Debating with myself about whether or not to do a pre course for the apt test.
Wonder will it be the same tests like before ?

Section_4

Raider190 wrote: »

My dealings and responses to your innate scribblings are at an end. You seem very determined to extract information which leads me to believe you may be a journalist and if this is the case I will have nothing to do with you.

Innate scribblings from a journalist

We're both playing for the same team, albeit in different positions. Let's just forget about the last few posts, rewind back to your comment about there being 100 places in the upcoming campaign and how the allocation of those places are to be spread across a reserve Gardaí, 'minorities' and the relatives of members of AGS.

I believe the figure you quoted to be an accurate one for the May intake, I do not believe what you say regarding how the 100 or so places in Templemore will be divided out to be remotely true.

Section_4

annlewis wrote: »

So as the thread is called "recruitment to begin......" anyone have any idea as to when it will ... begin ?

Debating with myself about whether or not to do a pre course for the apt test.
Wonder will it be the same tests like before ?

Announced before the end of October, aptitude tests in Novemeber and December followed by interviews in February/March with a class in for May 2014.

Class size is rumoured to be 80-100 with the chance of a similar sized class in November.

Given the fact that no one knows what format the new aptitude tests will follow you may be better off waiting to see what is expected of candidates before shelling out a few hundred euro?

Scouser

Section_4 wrote: »

We're both playing for the same team, albeit in different positions..

what a perfect analogy

copy and paste to all forum members and cc'd every mule in the state

:cool: keep it classy section 4:D

HighburyLad

Can I ask some information, and this is not politically minded this is just a genuine query, I know the garda take anyone and everyone from whatever background but I stumbled on some info on the net again it was on the net so how true this is, I do not know, but I read that the number of gardai officers from a Protestant background was less than 20 in the whole entire force, I am a Protestant and I would be looking to apply when recruitment has started, and I am asking if this is true can anyone clarify, and if it is this low, should I be concerned lol, please, this is a genuine query and I am not politically minded, it is just something that I was alarmed at when I seen the information on the net, thanks folks

annlewis

Section_4 wrote: »

Announced before the end of October, aptitude tests in Novemeber and December followed by interviews in February/March with a class in for May 2014.

Class size is rumoured to be 80-100 with the chance of a similar sized class in November.

Given the fact that no one knows what format the new aptitude tests will follow you may be better off waiting to see what is expected of candidates before shelling out a few hundred euro?

Has this been announced...a may intake ?

Section_4

annlewis wrote: »

Has this been announced...a may intake ?

Nothing has been announced and unfortunately it is all speculation and rumours. I do not think anybody that knows for certain will divulge accurate information and sources on an online forum.

What I said above has been ground out through the rumour mill and should be interpreted in that way. Someone else may be along shortly to disseminate an altogether different plan for the next recruitment from an equally credible source(s).

fartyarse

HighburyLad wrote: »

Can I ask some information, and this is not politically minded this is just a genuine query, I know the garda take anyone and everyone from whatever background but I stumbled on some info on the net again it was on the net so how true this is, I do not know, but I read that the number of gardai officers from a Protestant background was less than 20 in the whole entire force, I am a Protestant and I would be looking to apply when recruitment has started, and I am asking if this is true can anyone clarify, and if it is this low, should I be concerned lol, please, this is a genuine query and I am not politically minded, it is just something that I was alarmed at when I seen the information on the net, thanks folks

I'd be very interested to know where you read this, I can't imagine it's true!

Santa Cruz

HighburyLad wrote: »

Can I ask some information, and this is not politically minded this is just a genuine query, I know the garda take anyone and everyone from whatever background but I stumbled on some info on the net again it was on the net so how true this is, I do not know, but I read that the number of gardai officers from a Protestant background was less than 20 in the whole entire force, I am a Protestant and I would be looking to apply when recruitment has started, and I am asking if this is true can anyone clarify, and if it is this low, should I be concerned lol, please, this is a genuine query and I am not politically minded, it is just something that I was alarmed at when I seen the information on the net, thanks folks

I'd say that the number of Protestants in the Garda is fairly representative of the percentage of Protestants in the Republic. Religion is not an issue when deciding on applicants but membership of the Moonies might go against you.

Murphster

I believe that an announcement on the recommencement of Garda recruitment for 2014 will be made by Michael Noonan on Oct 15th 2013 during the course of his budget speech. It is at this time that all plans for public expenditure for the following year are disclosed. Can any member advise how strict the medical process is? In terms of dental, fitness, eyesight etc. I had spinal surgery on a disc in 2012 and while it is ok now, im wondering if it will affect their decision?? Thanks in advance!

axle foley

I have been on the panel also for the last 5 years but havent received any notification in the post that the panel is scrapped.............not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing! Looks like the entire panel is scrapped. Quite disgusting to see how previous applicants are treated.

Santa Cruz

axle foley wrote: »

I have been on the panel also for the last 5 years but havent received any notification in the post that the panel is scrapped.............not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing! Looks like the entire panel is scrapped. Quite disgusting to see how previous applicants are treated.

You can be getting used to that. Wait and see how politicians and senior Garda management treat their juniors.

thekopend

axle foley wrote: »

I have been on the panel also for the last 5 years but havent received any notification in the post that the panel is scrapped.............not sure if thats a good thing or bad thing! Looks like the entire panel is scrapped. Quite disgusting to see how previous applicants are treated.

Did u have every stage completed?

axle foley

I had every stage completed except the physical exam down in templemore. Passed the medical, aptitude and the interview. It was my second time going for it. Didnt pass the interview the first time so went for it again 6 months later and passed. If I had got it the first time I would have been one of the last through the gates. I spent ALOT of money on pre-test preperation courses etc so pretty much did everything I could to get in. Its a real sickener now that all that stands for nothing just because its 5 years later? Surely the fair thing to do would be to at least give the previous applicants priority when applying. I for one am sickened even though I kind of knew they would right us off.

mycro89

Is it fair to say that it is now time for those who were previously on a panel to move on. Yes ye put a lot of time and money into previous campaigns, but so have people who have been waiting for the opportunity to apply. Let's not forget recruitment was meant to occur in 2010, I'm sure people who weren't on the panel have also put a lot of time and money into prepartions for that false dawn.

Time to move on and think of the future , not dwelling in the past!!

axle foley

No point whinging on here anyway, but I would like to point out the irony of it all. Where's the justice in that!

mycro89

What will the T & C's be like for those that are successful in the future?

thekopend

Does any one know approximately (not just a guess) how long after aplication do the first aptitudes start. Perhaps someone on the previous panel knows?

2Mad2BeMad

its kinda strange
I think we are the only country in the entire world to not recruit garda(police) all year round

I get that we are a small country
but for a small country theirs so many bleedin crimes a day
surely 13000 garda is not enough for our country considering the crimes that take place daily
also considering theirs so many garda stations shut down
countrys a joke, I wanted to join the garda + the army since i 12 (mainly garda), I knew it would be my dream job, and now I barly have a chance of getting into either seen as its basicly a raffle on who gets picked for it, not saying i deserve the job or anything but seriously every other country recruits daily both police and army and yet over here we dont, ya the economy is bad but policing a country should always be up their with priority to getting the economy back on track