Robotic milking at the ploughing.

Pacoa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=24uSUBIZBXA

Can't believe they're bedding them on STRAW :eek:
Surely this will turn into a quagmire after a few days or will they have an army of lads throwing straw under them every five minutes

delaval

Pacoa wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=24uSUBIZBXA

Can't believe they're bedding them on STRAW :eek:
Surely this will turn into a quagmire after a few days or will they have an army of lads throwing straw under them every five minutes

The first cow down nearly got a heart attack when she saw the grass. Her granny had probably told her about it and how they used be allowed outside.

Not my cuppa but fair dues to Lely really good idea

BTW we bed a lot on straw and cows and ourselves love it

stop thelights

delaval wrote: »

The first cow down nearly got a heart attack when she saw the grass. Her granny had probably told her about it and how they used be allowed outside.

Not my cuppa but fair dues to Lely really good idea

Lely are brilliant at marketing their product. Heard that one of there robots on a open day in cork last year is being thrown out after just over a year!

delaval

stop thelights wrote: »

Lely are brilliant at marketing their product. Heard that one of there robots on a open day in cork last year is being thrown out after just over a year!

Oops, you would have to wonder is it the robot or the manager at fault there?

A friend in Holland has them, real rise in level of managent required. You need to be a good stock person to operate them

maxxuumman

stop thelights wrote: »

Lely are brilliant at marketing their product. Heard that one of there robots on a open day in cork last year is being thrown out after just over a year!

The biggest problem with robots in Ireland, is that they are being marketed as a lifestyle choice, which they are not.

stanflt

Just after getting a text from Lely about it- 40 cows

stop thelights

stanflt wrote: »

Just after getting a text from Lely about it- 40 cows

Same here it will be interesting to see if any straw sticks to the cows underneath and affects attachment by confusing the laser on locations of teats!!

stop thelights

maxxuumman wrote: »

The biggest problem with robots in Ireland, is that they are being marketed as a lifestyle choice, which they are not.

Very true I have to smile every time I see there full page adds in journal pushing hard before the finish of the grants!!

fiat10090dt

Guy outside arva ment be taken two out hé Just got them in march

grazeaway

delaval wrote: »

Oops, you would have to wonder is it the robot or the manager at fault there?

A friend in Holland has them, real rise in level of managent required. You need to be a good stock person to operate them

Yeah your spot on there. We have a different way of managing stock here which is very much based on how they are when we see them in the field while we are bringing them in and how we handle and watch them in the parlour. Robotic milking requires a whole new set of skills including how one interrupts and uses the data from the programs as well as how they perform in the field or feed lot. If one can adapt and master these as well as being able to use it with grazing then it has a place, if not then stick to the herringbone.

mahoney_j

fiat10090dt wrote: »

Guy outside arva ment be taken two out hé Just got them in march

2 of them taken out after 3 years in north tipp earlier this year.never see any of these story's from lely.still though there a serious piece of kit

poor farmer

fiat10090dt wrote: »

Guy outside arva ment be taken two out hé Just got them in march

He hasn't taken them out yet.

stop thelights

poor farmer wrote: »

He hasn't taken them out yet.

What was his reasons for him taking them out surprised there isn't more talk about this in the journal in the dealer section.

freedominacup

stop thelights wrote: »

What was his reasons for him taking them out surprised there isn't more talk about this in the journal in the dealer section.

Are you really? Stories about a product supplied by a major advertiser not covered by trade paper. That'd never happen:rolleyes:.

slippy wicket

I must say it really sickens me to see the likes of the robots being promoted to new entrants as a way to keep their 'lifestyle' as it was when they were a suckler/tillage/whatever farmer.
If you are goin in with that attitude you won't stay long when the realities of dairying kick in.

stop thelights

freedominacup wrote: »

Are you really? Stories about a product supplied by a major advertiser not covered by trade paper. That'd never happen:rolleyes:.

Exactly haha same with dairy master and Keenan

bob charles

Wonder how they got around the department bring down a herd of cows from the north and milking them here. Bet the milk lorry isnt going back with only 30 cows milk . Mate of mine is involved and said its like selling candy to a baby with the robots. think they have 100 shifted so far this year :eek:

jersey101

Was told today on another stand that one if the cows got pneumonia.
Until they make one with two arms that can milk 160 cows for the same price i won't be interested

delaval

jersey101 wrote: »

Was told today on another stand that one if the cows got pneumonia.
Until they make one with two arms that can milk 160 cows for the same price i won't be interested

If a cows kick, does it have a piece of wavin to teach her a lesson?????

jersey101

delaval wrote: »

If a cows kick, does it have a piece of wavin to teach her a lesson?????

at least ye wont have to try teach her ha. I was eaves dropping on a rep today and he said theres a little wire that shockes them if they dont leave the box after 8 sec

Sam Kade

They cost 5k a year in maintenance. A Kerry farmers wife that uses robot milking said that they can go away for weekends and leave the robot at work. Somehow I highly doubt it.

bob charles

Sam Kade wrote: »

They cost 5k a year in maintenance. A Kerry farmers wife that uses robot milking said that they can go away for weekends and leave the robot at work. Somehow I highly doubt it.

is that you call lifestyle farming:eek:

20silkcut

This is reminiscent of the spring show circa 1955

" a masheen for milking cows jaysus shure that will never catch on "

grazeaway

jersey101 wrote: »

at least ye wont have to try teach her ha. I was eaves dropping on a rep today and he said theres a little wire that shockes them if they dont leave the box after 8 sec

i hope you were been sarcastic.

seriously lads all this chineese whisperign sh*te is a bit childish.

"i heard that a the wifes 1st cousins milkman knows of one been taken out as it turns into a crime fighting robot when the farmer goes away"

like some of the the more seasoned lads like stan and delavel say its down to how the whole system works. thats how and where you milk your cows, how you use the robot and what you can spend. just cos its not a system that you feel suits your farm dosent mean its not viable is other cases. take a drive around europe and you will see thousdads of them. they have a system that works for them in soem cases that can be transfer to ireland and if that works for them then best of luck to them.

jaymla627

On the flipside having followed a few trends on bff, robots have far from being prefected with numerous lads having issues with things such as tbc, failed milkings and cell count i.e the robots flagging cows for treatment that dont need it.
Custumer back-up/repair prices seems to be a weak point to with many lads down the line reporting massive maintance costs unless they are on the all bells and whistles service plan along with poor back-up.
You have to remember to that if you put in say a lely robot your stuck with that company and whatever level of service/prices they choose to give you, they kind of have you over a barrel.

Sam Kade

grazeaway wrote: »

seriously lads all this chineese whisperign sh*te is a bit childish.

Here's proof of the what the Kerry farmers wife said @ 8:20

Also remember they are advertising a product, which they are being rewarded for.

Sam Kade

20silkcut wrote: »

This is reminiscent of the spring show circa 1955

" a masheen for milking cows jaysus shure that will never catch on "

Were you there that day?

jersey101

grazeaway wrote: »

i hope you were been sarcastic.

seriously lads all this chineese whisperign sh*te is a bit childish.

"i heard that a the wifes 1st cousins milkman knows of one been taken out as it turns into a crime fighting robot when the farmer goes away"

like some of the the more seasoned lads like stan and delavel say its down to how the whole system works. thats how and where you milk your cows, how you use the robot and what you can spend. just cos its not a system that you feel suits your farm dosent mean its not viable is other cases. take a drive around europe and you will see thousdads of them. they have a system that works for them in soem cases that can be transfer to ireland and if that works for them then best of luck to them.

no im being serious your man said it gives the cow a shock if she doesnt leave.

cosatron

the film in the OP is'nt a good advertisement for keenan diet feeders when a guy has to fork out the mix. or is this the norm.

yellow50HX

jersey101 wrote: »

no im being serious your man said it gives the cow a shock if she doesnt leave.

had he proof of this or was he just trying to dis the competion? did you ask him had his machine of getting the cows out?

jfh

bob charles wrote: »

Wonder how they got around the department bring down a herd of cows from the north and milking them here. Bet the milk lorry isnt going back with only 30 cows milk . Mate of mine is involved and said its like selling candy to a baby with the robots. think they have 100 shifted so far this year :eek:

that's crazy amount, not doubting you but i didn't realise farmers would be so open to change. any idea of the market share, lely Pearson..

keep going

There again weren't they running a trial in moorpark on them, any feed back

jersey101

yellow50HX wrote: »

had he proof of this or was he just trying to dis the competion? did you ask him had his machine of getting the cows out?

the rep for lely said it about shocking the cows

grazeaway

jersey101 wrote: »

the rep for lely said it about shocking the cows

never heard of that before, i know some will push the cows out but never heard of the electric shock treatment. in-law used to milk and it is mostly robts round thier place never heard of them having to use soemthing like that. maybe its just for irish cows.

bob charles

jfh wrote: »

that's crazy amount, not doubting you but i didn't realise farmers would be so open to change. any idea of the market share, lely Pearson..

as far as I remember 60 in the south and 40 in the north.

grazeaway

bob charles wrote: »

as far as I remember 60 in the south and 40 in the north.

lots of zero grazing around the border?

stanflt

forget lely robots- theres a new cost effective irish parlour on the market

bogman_bass

one thing I did like was how each quarter was milked out fully with each seperate cluster coming off at a different time

pbthevet

bogman_bass wrote: »

one thing I did like was how each quarter was milked out fully with each seperate cluster coming off at a different time

Was impressed by that aswell. But surely some auto sluster removers can do this aswell? I have yet to see one tho.

Tho for a machine that costs say 125 thousand, the new bulk tank, new shed . . . . . 60 cows giving say 7k litres each

Apple for the first to work out how long it takes to pay for itself

Second question. Now those years have past . . . . How does machine look now.

Id go with parlour

silly

being the wife of a dairy famer, I would love the robot...
No more being on a clock to get home in time for milking, having the freedom to come and go. not always being the last to arrive at events, because by the time he gets in from milking, showers, changes, eats, its near 9pm getting out of the house. Having time to spend with our young family. it would be great.
But 125 grand, plus an underpass etc...it will never happen here.

Pacoa

Just found a new robot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE8J9hEcwSg&feature=youtu.be

http://www.scott.co.nz/scott-milktech/

st1979

silly wrote: »

being the wife of a dairy famer, I would love the robot...
No more being on a clock to get home in time for milking, having the freedom to come and go. not always being the last to arrive at events, because by the time he gets in from milking, showers, changes, eats, its near 9pm getting out of the house. Having time to spend with our young family. it would be great.
But 125 grand, plus an underpass etc...it will never happen here.

Ah forget 125k. Just think €45/day its easier to stomach

mahoney_j

silly wrote: »

being the wife of a dairy famer, I would love the robot...
No more being on a clock to get home in time for milking, having the freedom to come and go. not always being the last to arrive at events, because by the time he gets in from milking, showers, changes, eats, its near 9pm getting out of the house. Having time to spend with our young family. it would be great.
But 125 grand, plus an underpass etc...it will never happen here.

Silly I'd be having a chat with hubby,absolutely no need to be working till that late.i start milking in morning at 7 so I can have breakfast with wife and daughter before she goes to work and daughter to childminder.evening milking starts at 4.30 and I'm done and dusted and in house for 5.45 or 6 at the latest.evening is my own after that.working late is like a bad habit.obe or two guys round me see it as a badge of honour to work 12 or 14 hours a day and have every light in the place and tractor raring round the yard when it gets dark.im only a part time farmer to them and often the butt of a few jokes,I'm the one laughing at them no point been a slave to the job

delaval

Mahoney is spot on. Totally agree some lads buzzing all night. Milking has to be the last job every day regardless of time.

Set milking times is the only way.

Guys around here even flat out on Sundays and like Mahoney laugh at how 'little' WORK we do

yellow50HX

delaval wrote: »

Mahoney is spot on. Totally agree some lads buzzing all night. Milking has to be the last job every day regardless of time.

Set milking times is the only way.

Guys around here even flat out on Sundays and like Mahoney laugh at how 'little' WORK we do

Work smarter, not longer.

delaval

yellow50HX wrote: »

Work smarter, not longer.

Was always taught to work the top inch hard!!!!

quadboy

The brother in new zealand says ud get strange looks if your seen working in the evening after milking

freedominacup

quadboy wrote: »

The brother in new zealand says ud get strange looks if your seen working in the evening after milking

There are days but only a couple of dozen in the year at max. You'll have calves sick or bales or a pit to be covered because of rain on the way. I'm in the manure if after 6.30 unless there's a damn good reason. Sat is now the earliest start, have to clear the decks before 9 because there's always at least a couple of matches to get to and I hate coming back in the evenings if there's more than the milking to be done.

whelan1

silly wrote: »

being the wife of a dairy famer, I would love the robot...
No more being on a clock to get home in time for milking, having the freedom to come and go. not always being the last to arrive at events, because by the time he gets in from milking, showers, changes, eats, its near 9pm getting out of the house. Having time to spend with our young family. it would be great.
But 125 grand, plus an underpass etc...it will never happen here.

said it on here before why bother having a family if you dont have family time, it will be regretted when they are older

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

said it on here before why bother having a family if you dont have family time, it will be regretted when they are older

To stand in gaps and fill meal bags??

Pacoa

it will be regretted when they are older

But they'll be relief milkers then