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Sprong, fork or grape?

  • 21-09-2013 10:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,636 ✭✭✭✭


    Just curious as to what people call a sprong ie a fork in different parts of the country. I live in kilkenny and a sprong was always a sprong! Meeting people from up the country, they call it a grape or greap? Any other variations?
    Googling this I see sprong originated from the yola language in south Wexford. Which makes sense as to why we call them sprongs!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Grape is what I call it although I learned that from my Longford grandparents. However around here its called a dung fork.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭quadboy


    you mean a pike


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    quadboy wrote: »
    you mean a pike
    I understand a Pike to be a Pitchfork - two pronged fork for pitching hay/straw as opposed to a grape which has 4 curved prongs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭fredweena


    We call that a four-pronged pike. Also down at the home place they call a cock of hay a wine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    Dung fork here


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    fredweena wrote: »
    We call that a four-pronged pike. Also down at the home place they call a cock of hay a wine.
    Never heard that expression before and I am from the era when cocking hay was normal.
    Can I ask what part of the country are you from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    4 grain fork or dungfork (has 4 grains)
    A two grain fork or pitchfork (has 2 grains)
    The five grain fork is what ya eat your dinner with (if ya don't have a dinner fork!). :-)

    On the subject of hay, we had grass cocks, field cocks, pikes and reeks. Depending on the size/shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    fredweena wrote: »
    We call that a four-pronged pike. Also down at the home place they call a cock of hay a wine.

    Yeah it's the 4 prong pike, the 3 prong pike (turf pike), and the 2 prong pike ( bale pike)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    Bizzum wrote: »
    4 grain fork or dungfork (has 4 grains)
    A two grain fork or pitchfork (has 2 grains)
    The five grain fork is what ya eat your dinner with (if ya don't have a dinner fork!). :-)
    Actually I understood that a five grained fork was for spuds/turnips and turf, although they have little knobbly bits at the end of the tines. Stand corrected though :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    Rho b wrote: »
    Actually I understood that a five grained fork was for spuds/turnips and turf, although they have little knobbly bits at the end of the tines. Stand corrected though :rolleyes:

    The 5 grain fork I was on about is your hand :-)

    The turf fork is called a bead fork and has 6 grains with a bead on the tip of each.
    There was a stone fork with 9 or 10 grains, close together.
    There was an old 3 pronged fork with shortish, flat and rounded grains for digging out spuds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭fredweena


    I'm from Kerry. They were always called wines. My father is from Galway and said that he'd never heard it before he moved down either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭Rho b


    fredweena wrote: »
    I'm from Kerry. They were always called wines. My father is from Galway and said that he'd never heard it before he moved down either.
    Its surprising to me that for such a small country we have some many different expressions for the same implement etc.
    My mam is from Longford and they used a Loy in years gone by for planting/setting potatoes. I understand that the Loy was used extensively in that part of the country but from what I can gather was not used in Dublin for the same purpose :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Grape = 4 sprongs
    fork = 2 sprongs
    Beet grape = the one with the balls on the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Sprongs and pikes all the way down here. I remember starting in Multy back in the day and hearing grape/greap for the first time. Had to figure out what it was from context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Rho b wrote: »
    Its surprising to me that for such a small country we have some many different expressions for the same implement etc.
    My mam is from Longford and they used a Loy in years gone by for planting/setting potatoes. I understand that the Loy was used extensively in that part of the country but from what I can gather was not used in Dublin for the
    same purpose :confused:

    A loy is a kind of a hand Plow, they did demos with it at the ploughing a fee years back,I'd never heard of it down in cork either...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    4 tines = sprang
    2 tines = fork
    6 tines with balls = beet fork
    9 tines with balls = potato fork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    4 prongs = pike
    2 prongs = fork

    3 prongs =?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 FT7


    pitch fork (2)

    dung fork (4)

    hay in ascending order ... depending on the weather :(.. grasscocks, meadow cocks, trams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Hay fork = 2 prongs
    Pitch fork = 4 prongs
    Beet fork / turf fork = 8 beaded prongs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭iverjohnston


    Graipe here in Cavan, if they have 4 tines. Fork if it has 2 tines. Co-Op stores selling continental made 3 tine yokes, don't know what you call then. Even rarer , a lad who would work one!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    All hardship but fork 2 grain good for sorting cattle all other work is hydraulic!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    delaval wrote: »
    All hardship but fork 2 grain good for sorting cattle all other work is hydraulic!!!

    Hydraulic isn't able to replace mandraulic in all cases! -;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    In North Longford:

    2 prongs= a fork
    4 prongs= a grape

    A turf grape is one with the nobbily bits on the end of the tines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    Sprong here in north Wexford. Pitch fork for two grains.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    2 prongs= a fork
    4 prongs= a grape

    A turf fork is one with the nobbily bits on the end of the tines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭MFdaveIreland


    Grape, county down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    2 prongs is a pitch fork because its used to "pitch" bales of hay onto a trailer

    4 prong is a grape round this part of meath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭red bull


    2 prongs hay fork
    3 prongs silage for
    4prongs dung fork

    hay, tram cocks and kildares


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Four grain fork ere. Never heard grape before


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    We always called it a 4 grain fork as well. Often wondered where the term 'grain' started from in relation to forks?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    Galway

    Hay fork - 2 prongs

    Everything else is a fork

    Never heard of a grape until some lad was on here talking about stobbing the bull with the "grape". I had images of him charging the bull on horseback with a lance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭whitebriar


    Its a sprong here in S wicklow.

    Sent a fellah from Sligo to get the sprong for me,he hadn't a clue what it was and calls it a grape.
    First I heard of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    A bit like the Italian man who 'wanna fork on the table'



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    2 prong is a pitch fork. 3 prong is a fork and 4 prong is a grape around here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭Good loser


    fredweena wrote: »
    I'm from Kerry. They were always called wines. My father is from Galway and said that he'd never heard it before he moved down either.

    Them's wynds.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭fredweena


    Good loser wrote: »
    Them's wynds.

    You learn something new everyday.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭C0N0R


    1chippy wrote: »
    2 prong is a pitch fork. 3 prong is a fork and 4 prong is a grape around here.

    Same as ourselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭PN14


    Simply known as a 4 prong fork here (dung fork) or a 2 prong fork / pike for the hay fork. In Limerick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AntrimGlens


    up here 4 prongs = graipe .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭case885


    4 prong pike 2 prong pike or garden fork the one with handel


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 Jcarnor


    A two prong was always known as a fork around here and a four prong as a grape. A friend of mine worked for a farmer in Meath that used to refer to "the two prong sprong" and "the four prong sprong" :D


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