Baby (Sometimes) On Board

az2wp0sye65487 · 17-09-2013 7:48pm #1

As the 'Baby On Board' sign in the rear window of the car is supposedly intended to alert emergency personnel that there is a baby in the car in the event of an accident - should you remove the sign when using the car and not taking your child with you?

Is it good practice to only use the sign when bringing your baby somewhere?

Max Power1 · 17-09-2013 7:49pm

It is supposed to absolve the sticker user of all faults, like failing to indicate or lane hogging.

tossy · 17-09-2013 7:54pm

The are F... stupid stickers. Like i am going to suddenly start driving responsibly becasue the owner of the car in front of me managed to throw the leg over his wife and now 9 months later i better cop on? F that i was driving responsibly before you got your hole i'll drive responsibly after it

Gran Hermano · 17-09-2013 7:57pm

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/babysign.asp

Urban legend when it comes to emergency service checking for those stickers.

Can be useful for other motorists if you interpret them as 'distracted driver on board'.

Rowley Birkin QC · 17-09-2013 7:58pm

Max Power1 wrote: »

It is supposed to absolve the sticker user of all faults, like failing to indicate or lane hogging.

Or double parking and blocking a lane at f*****ing rush hour anywhere within 500m of a school!!! :mad::mad::mad:

az2wp0sye65487 · 17-09-2013 8:34pm

Hmmm... Can of worms opened???

Sorry bout that!

Mycroft H · 17-09-2013 9:50pm

Hahaha is it a bit like you remove the ADR labels when not carrying the dangerous goods?

NobodyImportant · 18-09-2013 8:48am

I'm trying to find one like i had on my alfa previously. Not too obtrusive, but tells people, hey, my car might look a bit quick, but I'm not looking for a race and please dont tailgate me.

Sobanek · 18-09-2013 8:56am

NobodyImportant wrote: »

please dont tailgate me.

Move over to the left lane then! After all, you're nobody important

Max Power1 · 18-09-2013 9:04am

Sobanek wrote: »

Move over to the left lane then! After all, you're nobody important

+1
If you are being tailgated then 99.9% of the time you are doing it wrong!

dantastic · 18-09-2013 9:06am

Baby on board sign should be 2 penalty points on the spot.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:07am

I dont get why they upset some people so much. As a driver I just ignore them (as someone above said, I will drive with the same caution regardless and do not need to be extra careful around certain cars), but we dont know what the drivers intention for the sign is, and if they believe that emergency services use them as an indication to looks for babies/small children in the case of an accident then what harm?

Blazer · 18-09-2013 9:07am

Gran Hermano wrote: »

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/babysign.asp

Urban legend when it comes to emergency service checking for those stickers.

Can be useful for other motorists if you interpret them as 'distracted driver on board'.

cool..I have tinted windows so you can't see the sign unless you stick your nose up at it..

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:08am

Max Power1 wrote: »

+1
If you are being tailgated then 99.9% of the time you are doing it wrong!

Bollox. The vast majority of the time that I get tailgated its on a single lane road when I am driving at/very near to the speed limit.

Max Power1 · 18-09-2013 9:10am

djimi wrote: »

Bollox. The vast majority of the time that I get tailgated its on a single lane road when I am driving at/very near to the speed limit.

If you are doing anything under 95 on a clear 100 kmh road then that is too slow and impedes the traffic flow (doing so would gain you negative marks on your driving test)

Tabnabs · 18-09-2013 9:10am

Baby On Board, look at me everybody, I'm fertile... o.O

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:14am

Max Power1 wrote: »

If you are doing anything under 95 on a clear 100 kmh road then that is too slow and impedes the traffic flow (doing so would gain you negative marks on your driving test)

Impedes traffic flow? How much do you really think the flow of traffic is impeded by going say 90 instead of 100? (Im not talking about someone doing 60 in a 100 zone; thats obviously too slow)

Im not even suggesting that Im driving that slowly. Plenty of times I have been driving at the limit (as I usually do; where conditions allow it would be rare that I would be significantly under the limit) and have had some prat trying to drive in my back seat.

Sobanek · 18-09-2013 9:16am

djimi wrote: »

Impedes traffic flow? How much do you really think the flow of traffic is impeded by going say 90 instead of 100? (Im not talking about someone doing 60 in a 100 zone; thats obviously too slow)

Im not even suggesting that Im driving that slowly. Plenty of times I have been driving at the limit (as I usually do; where conditions allow it would be rare that I would be significantly under the limit) and have had some prat trying to drive in my back seat.

If I'm being tailgated (and it happens, even though I'm a dangerous driver by the Irish standards), I simply move over to the left, and put my left indicator on. 99% of the time, the person just overtakes me and moves on.

corktina · 18-09-2013 9:17am

ah that's not the Irish way....move to the right and slow down is the way

dantastic · 18-09-2013 9:24am

djimi wrote: »

Impedes traffic flow? How much do you really think the flow of traffic is impeded by going say 90 instead of 100? (Im not talking about someone doing 60 in a 100 zone; thats obviously too slow)

Im not even suggesting that Im driving that slowly. Plenty of times I have been driving at the limit (as I usually do; where conditions allow it would be rare that I would be significantly under the limit) and have had some prat trying to drive in my back seat.

Irrelevant.

If you're in someone's way, get out of it. Granted, there are many many roads where it's impossible to move out of the way. But don't suggest because 90 is good enough for you it should suffice for me as well. Get out of my way and I'll be off your tail in no-time!

If I'm doing 150 in a 100 zone that's a matter for AGS, not for some baby on board sign vigilante.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:27am

Sobanek wrote: »

If I'm being tailgated (and it happens, even though I'm a dangerous driver by the Irish standards), I simply move over to the left, and put my left indicator on. 99% of the time, the person just overtakes me and moves on.

Good for you. As do most people. Im not really sure what that has got to do with the original point though that if you are being tailgated then its 99.9% of the time your fault? You have to be tailgated first in order to facilitate being overtaken.

MugMugs · 18-09-2013 9:29am

Sobanek wrote: »

If I'm being tailgated (and it happens, even though I'm a dangerous driver by the Irish standards), I simply move over to the left, and put my left indicator on. 99% of the time, the person just overtakes me and moves on.

Tell me, are you suggesting that people should drive in the hard shoulder?

dantastic wrote: »

Irrelevant.

If you're in someone's way, get out of it. Granted, there are many many roads where it's impossible to move out of the way. But don't suggest because 90 is good enough for you it should suffice for me as well. Get out of my way and I'll be off your tail in no-time!

If I'm doing 150 in a 100 zone that's a matter for AGS, not for some baby on board sign vigilante.

So tailgating is an okay thing to do then if the driver in front is driving "too slow" for the person behind*?

*itching to say it's a limit not a target :pac:

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:30am

dantastic wrote: »

Irrelevant.

If you're in someone's way, get out of it. Granted, there are many many roads where it's impossible to move out of the way. But don't suggest because 90 is good enough for you it should suffice for me as well. Get out of my way and I'll be off your tail in no-time!

If I'm doing 150 in a 100 zone that's a matter for AGS, not for some baby on board sign vigilante.

If Im doing 90-95 on a windy stretch of 100 road (ie driving safely to the conditions), and you want to go faster then thats your problem, not mine. If I can facilitate your overtaking then I will and I certainly wont make it any harder on you then it needs to be, but Im sure as hell not going to pull over to let you by just because you sit on my back bumper (ie why should I impede my progress just so that I dont impede yours?). "Getting out of the way" is not always an easy thing to do on most single lane Irish roads.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:32am

MugMugs wrote: »

Tell me, are you suggesting that people should drive in the hard shoulder?

Or in the ditch, as would be the case on most of our roads.

MugMugs wrote: »

*itching to say it's a limit not a target :pac:

I had to resist that urge myself

Grayditch · 18-09-2013 9:33am

Max Power1 wrote: »

(doing so would gain you negative marks on your driving test)

If you're gonna use that, do you always drive like it's your test?

Sobanek · 18-09-2013 9:34am

MugMugs wrote: »

Tell me, are you suggesting that people should drive in the hard shoulder?

No, not at all. Single lane roads don't usually have hard shoulders, you know? Just move to the left side of the road as much as possible and put your indicator on. Saves both yours and your tailgater's nerves.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:36am

Sobanek wrote: »

No, not at all. Single lane roads don't usually have hard shoulders, you know? Just move to the left side of the road as much as possible and put your indicator on. Saves both yours and your tailgater's nerves.

How much difference do you think this actually makes (assuming you werent driving over the white line to begin with)? If its safe to overtake then it should not require the car in front to move over to the left. If its not safe to overtake the car behind should respect this and back the **** off!

Sobanek · 18-09-2013 9:39am

djimi wrote: »

How much difference do you think this actually makes (assuming you werent driving over the white line to begin with)? If its safe to overtake then it should not require the car in front to move over to the left. If its not safe to overtake the car behind should respect this and back the **** off!

It does make a difference, because it will make your tailgater think that you're pulling over. He's not going to wait for you, is he? (Or she, let's not be sexist here)

Yawns · 18-09-2013 9:39am

One way out of the recession would be to have every member of the road traffic corps outside of schools across the country giving fines for the shocking driving and abandonment of cars everywhere.

I bring my child to school and even tho a designated school car park was built it's empty half the time. People plonk their cars in bus lanes, loading bays and all along the path including across access gates. In a lot of the cases, where they have parked the car is further than the car park which will still be half empty.

MugMugs · 18-09-2013 9:42am

Sobanek wrote: »

No, not at all. Single lane roads don't usually have hard shoulders, you know? Just move to the left side of the road as much as possible and put your indicator on. Saves both yours and your tailgater's nerves.

Well considering that the ROTR state one is obliged to drive as far left at all times this would be a given.

You're saying on country roads. Fair enough. Why should you have to pull over and risk damaging your vehicle with potholes, thorns etc? What gives somebody who is willing to drive so dangerously priority over you?

MugMugs · 18-09-2013 9:43am

Yawns wrote: »

One way out of the recession would be to have every member of the road traffic corps outside of schools across the country giving fines for the shocking driving and abandonment of cars everywhere.

Which would probably amount to about 20 Gardai at this stage.

Traffic have suffered savage cuts of late to make up for the raping of Gardai from other areas of the force and their non replacement.

Yawns · 18-09-2013 9:46am

MugMugs wrote: »

Which would probably amount to about 20 Gardai at this stage.

Traffic have suffered savage cuts of late to make up for the raping of Gardai from other areas of the force and their non replacement.

True enough. Last week annoyed me tho. A road corps car was about 100 meters away from the entrance to school grounds. He did a quick checkpoint and didn't pull any cars over from what I seen. If he had come in and just dished out fines for the 60+ cars that were on dbl yellows or in loading & bus bays, he'd have had a productive morning.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:48am

Sobanek wrote: »

It does make a difference, because it will make your tailgater think that you're pulling over. He's not going to wait for you, is he? (Or she, let's not be sexist here)

I dont understand this logic at all. If the person wants to overtake then they will overtake regardless (I dont wait for the car in front of me to pull over if Im overtaking when clear to do so) and if they dont want to overtake then what the **** are they doing driving so close to the car in front?

Grayditch · 18-09-2013 9:49am

Indicate and pull in every time I'm tailed? Hahahaha. Yeah.

djimi · 18-09-2013 9:51am

Yawns wrote: »

One way out of the recession would be to have every member of the road traffic corps outside of schools across the country giving fines for the shocking driving and abandonment of cars everywhere.

I bring my child to school and even tho a designated school car park was built it's empty half the time. People plonk their cars in bus lanes, loading bays and all along the path including across access gates. In a lot of the cases, where they have parked the car is further than the car park which will still be half empty.

Some schools absolutely take the piss with this. I pass two schools on my drive in in the morning and the amount of times I get held up by some utter ****head who just stops in the middle of the road to let their little brats out is absolutely ridiculous. One school takes the biscuit; there is a large church car park next to the school that is half empty most of the morning, but instead of designating that as a drop off area, cars are allowed to stop where they want and block one of the main roads out of the town.

Yawns · 18-09-2013 9:55am

Ah this 99.9% thing is bollcoks. You could be doing 100 in an 80 zone and still have ****ers tailgating you trying to overtake. I'll drive as the conditions allow. I overtake people when it's clear and safe to do so, not on a bendy road with solid white lines and no visibility. Pity more people can't seem to do that.

If it's a 100 road with a hard shoulder and I can see far along that it's clear, I'll pull in a bit to allow other cars to overtake easily. That 100 road out of Portlaoise to Carlow being one example. Big straight stretch, 100 zone but people usually go faster. If I see it's clear but don't fancy putting the boot down, I'll pull over and allow traffic to pass, but once it goes to the twists n turns with no where to pull in and poor visibility around bends with solid white lines, I'll drive as the conditions allow and won't be as accommodating for you if you want to drive 130 and overtake.

Yawns · 18-09-2013 9:57am

djimi wrote: »

Some schools absolutely take the piss with this. I pass two schools on my drive in in the morning and the amount of times I get held up by some utter ****head who just stops in the middle of the road to let their little brats out is absolutely ridiculous. One school takes the biscuit; there is a large church car park next to the school that is half empty most of the morning, but instead of designating that as a drop off area, cars are allowed to stop where they want and block one of the main roads out of the town.

Not Athy by any chance. There's 2 schools near a big church there and same ****ing thing. My son's school is further out the road and still same **** happens there sometimes even tho each school in that area has it's own parking lot.

The also stop on the speed ramps outside school that double as a pedestrian crossing to let their kids outs, holding up every car behind them going in that also have school going kids.

Grayditch · 18-09-2013 9:59am

I've lived in 3 places with schools at the end of the road (just realised how that sounds) and I'm still not used to the nightmarish things I see every day.

NobodyImportant · 18-09-2013 11:28am

Trust me, I dont impede traffic

But if I'm holding the limit on a single road, or at the limit (in the innermost and appropriate lane) and some boy racer wants to sit on my ass to get me to floor it, hopefully the BoB sign might make them think I wont do something stupid with a toddler on board.

dgt · 18-09-2013 1:05pm

Baby on Board... Meh. Your genitals/someone else's genitals work, wow aren't you great :rolleyes:

"Babe on Board" or "Princess on Board" now why the f*ck are these people allowed to reproduce and fill the already overcrowded world with future muppets and arseholes :mad::mad::mad:

Grayditch · 18-09-2013 1:08pm

I find the ones with the kids names are creepy. Why would you let strangers know your kids name?

jimgoose · 18-09-2013 1:09pm

Max Power1 wrote: »

It is supposed to absolve the sticker user of all faults, like failing to indicate or lane hogging.

Yes and, secondarily, to make you go "Ooh, better not ram that 'un - there's a wee bairn in it!!"

NobodyImportant · 18-09-2013 1:58pm

dgt wrote: »

Baby on Board... Meh. Your genitals/someone else's genitals work, wow aren't you great :rolleyes:

"Babe on Board" or "Princess on Board" now why the f*ck are these people allowed to reproduce and fill the already overcrowded world with future muppets and arseholes :mad::mad::mad:

Whoa! Are you having relationship difficulties or something? People put those things up to try help keep their kids safe, not to show off they spawned:D

I'm not a fan of the Babe/Princess on board stickers either (tacky - see my pic on page 1 of the kind of sticker i put on), but saying people shouldnt reproduce because of tacky BoB stickers is a bit much!

dgt · 18-09-2013 2:01pm

NobodyImportant wrote: »

Whoa! Are you having relationship difficulties or something? People put those things up to try help keep their kids safe, not to show off they spawned:D

I'm not a fan of the Babe/Princess on board stickers either (tacky - see my pic on page 1 of the kind of sticker i put on), but saying people shouldnt reproduce because of tacky BoB stickers is a bit much!

Clearly your sarcasm detector is broke :pac:

MugMugs · 18-09-2013 2:04pm

dgt wrote: »

Clearly your sarcasm detector is broke :pac:

There is a bit of an overreaction in the anti camp all the same.

dgt · 18-09-2013 2:05pm

MugMugs wrote: »

There is a bit of an overreaction in the anti camp all the same.

Sarcasm doesn't work just like those crappy signs

H3llR4iser · 18-09-2013 2:13pm

Very simple: to me, it reads "interiors complete with puke, urine, poo, baby food, milk and possibly a squaky toy jammed somewhere".

Sure enough a car without such sticker might come with...other...kind of fluids spilled in, but at least there isn't anything outside to remark it...

cpoh1 · 18-09-2013 2:14pm

NobodyImportant wrote: »

People put those things up to try help keep their kids safe, not to show off they spawned:D

If you want to keep your kids safe in the car then drive responsibly and ditch the stupid sticker, nobody takes a blind bit of notice about them anyway.

jimgoose · 18-09-2013 2:21pm

cpoh1 wrote: »

If you want to keep your kids safe in the car then drive responsibly and ditch the stupid sticker, nobody takes a blind bit of notice about them anyway.

They don't do any great harm, but whenever I see one of those signs in a car driven by a man, I immediately assume he's one of these baby-carrier-wearing, Couvade Syndrome, "New Man" arseholes and get an almost-overwhelming desire to ram him!

cpoh1 · 18-09-2013 2:52pm

One good thing with those stickers for me, anytime I spot one in a car park my car will be nowhere near it!

Max Power1 · 18-09-2013 2:56pm

cpoh1 wrote: »

One good thing with those stickers for me, anytime I spot one in a car park my car will be nowhere near it!

Unfortunately they are always near mine (but two door lengths away)

Them's the costs ya pay for parking in P&C spots

:pac:

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