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Bands you begrudgingly like but don't want to.

  • 16-09-2013 9:40am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭


    I for one wish I didn't like Metallica and Slipknot.

    Metallica for all the total hypocrisy and selling out by the Danish dwarf and all the pantomime crap that Slipknot are about. But by God, they both make a hell of a racket that I find irresistible.

    Are there any other bands you wish hatred and misfortune on but can't help admiring the noise they make ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Burzum


    I'm a massive black/death metal fan but my guilty pleasure is Cradle of Filth, cant tell you how many times ive denied listening to them to avoid a slagging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭markomuscle


    Paramore. I'm a gothic metal fan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Burzum wrote: »
    I'm a massive black/death metal fan but my guilty pleasure is Cradle of Filth, cant tell you how many times ive denied listening to them to avoid a slagging.
    Yeah, pretty much adored Cradle of Filth back in the day, then sorta kept it to myself. Midian is still a fantastic album ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Paramore. I'm a gothic metal fan.

    Paramore is pushing it a bit TBF. I can't see how anybody who's even a passing interest in non commercial music could like them and what they stand for $$$


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Paramore is pushing it a bit TBF. I can't see how anybody who's even a passing interest in non commercial music could like them and what they stand for $$$

    I like them.

    It doesn't really matter what I should or shouldn't like.

    If you paid more attention to what music brings you joy and less to which bands you couldn't or shouldn't like then things would be better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    I like the first 6 ManOwaR even though Joey is . . . well . . . Joey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Morf wrote: »
    I like them.

    It doesn't really matter what I should or shouldn't like.

    If you paid more attention to what music brings you joy and less to which bands you couldn't or shouldn't like then things would be better.

    I get what you say, but it doesn't hide the fact that Paramore are nothing more than a tacked on cheesy outfit pretending to be something they're not. But more importantly I cant and I shant listen to music that is utter tripe. So I'm better off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭whiterob81


    I'm gonna go with Paramore as well. and Fall Out Boy. I don't think Paramore pretend to be anything more than a cheesy pop outfit at this stage. I'm a 32 year old man and I get the impression that no one over the age of 15 should own up to listening to these bands but they do write some catchy tunes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    nocoverart wrote: »
    I get what you say, but it doesn't hide the fact that Paramore are nothing more than a tacked on cheesy outfit pretending to be something they're not. But more importantly I cant and I shant listen to music that is utter tripe. So I'm better off.

    Emm, at what point does any of that matter?

    Do you like the music or not like the music?

    Having all these rules about what you can like and what you can't based around things that don't involve actually listening to the music doesn't make sense to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Knifey Spoony


    nocoverart wrote: »
    I get what you say, but it doesn't hide the fact that Paramore are nothing more than a tacked on cheesy outfit pretending to be something they're not. But more importantly I cant and I shant listen to music that is utter tripe. So I'm better off.


    Is it cold and lonely up there in your ivory tower?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    In fairness Paramore represent everything that's wrong in music, they're just a corporate outfit with the sole intention of making money by appealing to the most mainstream tastes possible. There's no art in their music, they dont have a concept of art, it's just music designed to make money, but it's not even good! I saw a scuzz interview with them and that came across. It's amazing really, it's not just Paramore, there are so many rock bands that aren't really rock and the songs could literally be written by a computer they're so formulaic, yet people like this sh1t?:confused: What happened to the 90s?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Three Days Grace and Three Doors Down. They're bands that I consider light weights compared to most music I listen to, but I like some of their songs. Limp Bizkit would be another one. I used to like them as a teenager but sort of grew out of them, but still like some of their stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I don't get this thread?

    "Bands you begrudgingly like but don't want to."

    Why would I begrudgingly like something? It's not like it's a brother or sister I have to get along with for the sake of the family.
    I either like it or I don't. If I don't like it, I won't listen to it, so anything I like, I like, anything I don't like, I don't have to listen to...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    I can't think of one band I begrudgingly like but don't want to. That only happens when you are trying to play up to an image and are too conscience of what others think of you. You are only depriving yourself of what you enjoy and if you like a band's music then don't feel any shame in enjoying their music. Learn not to give a fuck.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Thread title should say:

    Bands you like that aren't "cool"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I can't think of one band I begrudgingly like but don't want to. That only happens when you are trying to play up to an image and are too conscience of what others think of you. You are only depriving yourself of what you enjoy and if you like a band's music then don't feel any shame in enjoying their music. Learn not to give a fuck.

    This


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    I can't think of one band I begrudgingly like but don't want to. That only happens when you are trying to play up to an image and are too conscience of what others think of you. You are only depriving yourself of what you enjoy and if you like a band's music then don't feel any shame in enjoying their music. Learn not to give a fuck.


    This couldn't be further than the point of the thread. Where did you get the impression that an image is involved ? And who is depriving themselves of anything ? Shame ?

    I clearly stated that I find the music irresistable, I am a forty two year old man who has been going to gigs since my first Motorhead gig in 1982. I do not have an image or an ego. I love the music of Deep Purple, Slipknot, Joss Stone, Slayer, Alicia Keys, Voi Vod, Saxon, Rolling Stones etc., etc. I just love good music full stop.

    The question that I asked which I thought I gave an example of is that although the music shines through, the personnel involved in making the said beautiful noise are indeed cnuts.

    I have followed Metallica ever since I heard Metal Militia on a compilation album called Hell On Earth from 1983, then Ride The Lightning came out and I've been a fan ever since. However, Large Oilrig is a hideous, greedy hypocritical dwarf.

    For someone who boasted of taping and sharing music to go to such lenghths to eliminate Napster, for someone who claimed to be thrash through and through only to record an album with the San Francisco Philharmonic Orchestra and Lou Reed FFS, for someone who cashed in massively issueing half a dozen CD singles of the same A side with six different B sides and printing the same record in as many different coloured vinyl as he could just for the fans to buy the same record again and again in different formats is just a disgusting greedy corporate pig as the people he was moaning about in the early days of Metallica when they were struggling in their early days. Lest we forget the eyeliner ? And the pantomime man on fire? And the man falling from the lighting rig ? C'mon, I thought it was Metal Up Your Ass not Cirque De Soliel ?

    I have been a fan since '83 and their last album is a belter too, so I for one am not depriving myself of anything. He's just a cnut. And I wish they weren't so fukcin good because he is a cnut.

    As for those buffoons in the masks and the prison overalls, well, I have never heard a noise like it, fantastic. Love them to bits just why oh why do you look and act like total halfwits, yet still create such a beautifully horrendous cacophony of mayhem ?

    I will bow out now and put on some Stryper.

    (Sign Of The Hammer is still one of my favourites, All Men Play On Ten !)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    This couldn't be further than the point of the thread. Where did you get the impression that an image is involved ? And who is depriving themselves of anything ? Shame ?

    I clearly stated that I find the music irresistable, I am a forty two year old man who has been going to gigs since my first Motorhead gig in 1982. I do not have an image or an ego. I love the music of Deep Purple, Slipknot, Joss Stone, Slayer, Alicia Keys, Voi Vod, Saxon, Rolling Stones etc., etc. I just love good music full stop.

    The question that I asked which I thought I gave an example of is that although the music shines through, the personnel involved in making the said beautiful noise are indeed cnuts.

    I have followed Metallica ever since I heard Metal Militia on a compilation album called Hell On Earth from 1983, then Ride The Lightning came out and I've been a fan ever since. However, Large Oilrig is a hideous, greedy hypocritical dwarf.

    For someone who boasted of taping and sharing music to go to such lenghths to eliminate Napster, for someone who claimed to be thrash through and through only to record an album with the San Francisco Philharmonic Orchestra and Lou Reed FFS, for someone who cashed in massively issueing half a dozen CD singles of the same A side with six different B sides and printing the same record in as many different coloured vinyl as he could just for the fans to buy the same record again and again in different formats is just a disgusting greedy corporate pig as the people he was moaning about in the early days of Metallica when they were struggling in their early days. Lest we forget the eyeliner ? And the pantomime man on fire? And the man falling from the lighting rig ? C'mon, I thought it was Metal Up Your Ass not Cirque De Soliel ?

    I have been a fan since '83 and their last album is a belter too, so I for one am not depriving myself of anything. He's just a cnut. And I wish they weren't so fukcin good because he is a cnut.

    As for those buffoons in the masks and the prison overalls, well, I have never heard a noise like it, fantastic. Love them to bits just why oh why do you look and act like total halfwits, yet still create such a beautifully horrendous cacophony of mayhem ?

    I will bow out now and put on some Stryper.

    (Sign Of The Hammer is still one of my favourites, All Men Play On Ten !)

    If you're really going to have a go at Metallica because of Lar Ulrich then you have to take a step back and look at music as a whole. Music(especially Rock and Metal bands) are full of a*reholes. I could name 10 musicians who are cnuts but I still love their music because it's not the artist you should be looking at, it's the art. I mean if i'm honest, as a Metallica fan I don't care too much about any of the band members all that much. I have respect for old band members guys like Cliff Burton and Jason Newsted, but everyone else is just a pr!ck in their own way.

    As for bands that I mentioned before, that I begrudgingly like. I suppose it goes down to the fact that I kind've look down on the type of music they play. They play music that I would probably like as a teenager, but having a more mature taste in music these days, I went off them a long time ago. But I still give credit where credit is due. I do like some of their songs still, just don't care for the bands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    By the OP's definition then i begrudgingly like my favourite band Tool. because i think maynard is a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I don't get this thread?

    "Bands you begrudgingly like but don't want to."

    Why would I begrudgingly like something? It's not like it's a brother or sister I have to get along with for the sake of the family.
    I either like it or I don't. If I don't like it, I won't listen to it, so anything I like, I like, anything I don't like, I don't have to listen to...

    I'll translate it for you....

    A-holes...who make good music


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Three Days Grace

    I really like them, don't be ashamed. :) "Let You Down" is a great tune. A lot of the Nu metal bands had some great singles, I own the best of Limp Bizkit and a Papa Roach album. I'm not proud of this but I wouldn't disown them either, music doesn't always have to soul crushingly deep and clever, sometimes a good hook and a chorus that lets you shout swear words with childlike abandon is enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Murderdolls :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Caonima


    Makes me think of my feelings for metal over the years. I started my metal tastes with NIN, Front Line Assembly, Slayer, Strapping Young Lad, Wildhearts, Type O Negative, but have gotten fairly disillusioned with the overall metal opus in recent times and have vacillated over to shoegaze and dreampop. So, I suppose as someone who still hangs his hat on the 'metal' peg, I'd consider some of the new bands I listen to begrudgingly good. You guys should check out bands like No Joy, Blonde Redhead... bands like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Fear Factory.

    One of my all time favourite bands and a massive influence on my playing, but I can't stand Burton C. Bell or Dino Cazares.

    Mainly over their treatment of Raymond Herrera and Christian Olde Wolbers (though I'm sure those two aren't entirely blameless) and their most recent treatment of Gene Hoglan.

    Spa carry on of the highest order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Janes Addiction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    FFs Paramore, Limp Bizkit jaysus are ye 12?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    Dermighty wrote: »
    Janes Addiction.
    Why? Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual were fantastic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭PickledLime


    Fear Factory.

    One of my all time favourite bands and a massive influence on my playing, but I can't stand Burton C. Bell or Dino Cazares.

    Mainly over their treatment of Raymond Herrera and Christian Olde Wolbers (though I'm sure those two aren't entirely blameless) and their most recent treatment of Gene Hoglan.

    Spa carry on of the highest order.

    Yeah they don't exactly do themselves any favours. As a huge Gene Hoglan fan I say the consolation to him must be the fact that his legacy eats most other players in the genre for breakfast.
    Why? Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual were fantastic.

    Too right, both are classics. Love JA's rhythm section too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    A +1 for Metallica and Slipknot. Great for the gym!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Yeah they don't exactly do themselves any favours. As a huge Gene Hoglan fan I say the consolation to him must be the fact that his legacy eats most other players in the genre for breakfast.

    Which makes it all the more confusing, you have one of the greatest ever living metal drummers in your band and you dick him around like that?

    I don't get it, was he too expensive? Surely the reward would outweigh the cost, especially after how well received Mechanize was.

    And The Industrialist was ass for the most part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Why? Nothing's Shocking and Ritual de lo Habitual were fantastic.

    Great albums, but Farrell and Navarro are some dose. Navarro loves himself, but he's a great guitar player, plays what needs to be played even though he's well able to play if needs be...

    Last album was pretty decent too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,041 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The older I get, the less fu*ks I have to give about things and people's impression of my taste in music is one of them. I've long since learned to enjoy what I find naturally enjoyable and that runs the gammut of Tori Amos to Carcass, with plenty mixed in between from classical, punk, indie, theme music and pop. Christ, I'm probably one of the few men in his late 30's who listens to somgs from Grimes. :confused:

    In short, listen to what you like.

    However, for bands that I begrudingly like (or rather songs I begrudingly like), I'm listening to Twisted Sister a bit too much for my liking at the moment and for some reason I've amassed a load of 80's mp3's.

    I never thought that would ever happen.

    Dear 18 year old me, I'm speaking to you from the future....

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    I get slagged for liking Avenged Sevenfold. I think they're grand.

    Airbourne, IMO are an ACDC clone. But damn they're good. Well looking forward to the gig on Tuesday.

    Not metal, but I despise U2 because they're smug pricks. Despite this i think they have some fine songs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Not a band I begrudgingly like as they're my all time favourites and seem like sound lads but, I've never really gotten a solid answer as to why Meshuggah haven't played Ireland since they supported Machine Head in the SFX in the mid 90's.

    They play in Europe and up and down the U.K with almost every album release, yet won't make the short trip over the water to play Dublin or Belfast. While Devin Townsend can fly all the way over from Canada to play Brixton Academy with his massive Retinal Circus yoke and then fly over to Dublin the next night to do a scaled down version in the Academy. He also played here the year before.
    Which was ****ing top drawer stuff I might add.

    I've been to Meshuggah's gigs in Bristol and Paris in the last couple years but it would be nice if they could return the favour. There were plenty of Irish at both gigs so it's not like they wouldn't draw a large crowd if they played here.

    Irritating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    Avenged Sevenfold are like my guilty pleasure. I hate the shïte out of them.... Their arrogance is astounding but Christ, they can play. Nightmare is a fantastic tune and Afterlife is great. Corporate a$$hole$ too, and the way the treated Mike Portnoy was astonishingly bad. But I still can't help but love their sound.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭bushball


    stupid question, but what did a7x do to mike portney and everything else that was so bad, dont mean to sound like a troll but only new enough to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    bushball wrote: »
    stupid question, but what did a7x do to mike portney and everything else that was so bad, dont mean to sound like a troll but only new enough to them

    Only going on second hand information here as I've not read any interviews about it or anything, but the lads were tellin me that after the Rev died and Portnoy was drafted in to replace him for touring and a bit of recording, he was all set to join em permanently, but basically A7X told him to fûck off, he was contracted for one album and one tour and to get lost. One of the greatest drummers ever and they do that. Not on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Jared Leto, his posing, his posing band, and his multi million dollar super duper videos annoy the sh*te out of me. But I've seen them on Scuzz a good few times, and find myself listening to one or two songs, which are............................................not bad..................

    Dave Navarro and his posing does my head in, but he's a savage guitarist, and Jane's are a top band, or at least were, so he can get away with it.


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