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Costa Concordia to be refloated 16th September

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Brego888


    Great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    I'm sure they've got some great €5.80 an hour, 50 hour a week, 30 minutes break per shift vacancies on there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭lkionm


    Would they not be like those zombies in the well from the walking dead by now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Will there a a special offer on its (next) maiden voyage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Concordia, I remember it well when it crashed into that hotel in Gonesse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    They started righting the Costa this morning.

    They have so far mannaged to raise her about 1 meter up off her side and off the rocks she is stuck on.

    Live on Sky News at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,359 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    paddy147 wrote: »
    They started righting the Costa this morning.

    They have so far mannaged to raise her about 1 meter up off her side and off the rocks she is stuck on.

    Live on Sky News at the moment.

    That should be exciting.
    Heard it was costing 500m to raise it,what would the scrap value be on something like that.
    It didn't cost that much to build presumably.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Italians refloating an cruise ship? This will be entertaining.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    kneemos wrote: »
    That should be exciting.
    Heard it was costing 500m to raise it,what would the scrap value be on something like that.
    It didn't cost that much to build presumably.

    Cost 450m to build it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Anyone know why they are doing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Have all the dead bodies been accounted for and reclaimed or are there still some inside the ship?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Anyone know why they are doing this?

    Presume a big fcuk-off rusting ship isn't a very attractive sight.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Anyone know why they are doing this?

    Environmental reasons would be the first thing to pop into my head.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,359 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    markc1184 wrote: »
    Have all the dead bodies been accounted for and reclaimed or are there still some inside the ship?

    Two people are still missing.Skeletel remains at this stage I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Anyone know why they are doing this?
    I imagine there's a aesthetic component to it, but presumably an environmental one too. While I'm sure all of the fuel could be pumped out of the hull, the rest of the ship would still contain a lot of hazardous material in any electrical equipment onboard.
    The insurance company are probably looking at this as cost-saving. If there were to be any environmental effects, they would be on the hook. Plus they can sell the salvaged hull.

    If this fails, they will still probably float it with air tanks and then tow it out to the middle of the ocean and sink it. In plenty of places old ships have been sunk to create new reefs and provide an environmental bonus, but that's after the ship has been stripped of hazardous material.
    markc1184 wrote: »
    Have all the dead bodies been accounted for and reclaimed or are there still some inside the ship?
    There are two people unaccounted for, so they're hoping to find them, but that's definitely not why they're doing this. They wouldn't spend €500m to search for two dead bodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    seamus wrote: »
    I imagine there's a aesthetic component to it, but presumably an environmental one too. While I'm sure all of the fuel could be pumped out of the hull, the rest of the ship would still contain a lot of hazardous material in any electrical equipment onboard.
    The insurance company are probably looking at this as cost-saving. If there were to be any environmental effects, they would be on the hook. Plus they can sell the salvaged hull.

    If this fails, they will still probably float it with air tanks and then tow it out to the middle of the ocean and sink it. In plenty of places old ships have been sunk to create new reefs and provide an environmental bonus, but that's after the ship has been stripped of hazardous material.

    There are two people unaccounted for, so they're hoping to find them, but that's definitely not why they're doing this. They wouldn't spend €500m to search for two dead bodies.

    See I would have thought this would be a much cheaper option. I'm just surprised that they are prepared to spend that much money on it, but your reasons make sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Italians refloating an cruise ship? This will be entertaining.

    The salvors are a Dutch company.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Environmental reasons would be the first thing to pop into my head.


    Most of the oil and fuel has been pumped out.

    They seem to be more worried about all the food and drink supplies on board that have gone stale and rotted.....if they leak out into the sea it could polute the immeduate area.

    18,000 bottles of wine onboard.:eek::D


    Oh and 2 people still missing and unaccounted for.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    The ship has been freed from the rocks and the operation to upright the ship is expected to take 12 hours.

    http://live.reuters.com/Event/Raising_the_Costa_Concordia
    Engineers attempt one of the most expensive wreck removal operations in history: raising an Italian cruise ship that capsized in 2012.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10311690/Watch-live-Costa-Concordia-recovery.html

    Two people are still missing and their bodies have not been found yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Threads Merged


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,824 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    The Costa Concordia wont be actually moved away till early next Spring.

    So it will be an unexpected Island tourist attraction for a fair few more months to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    See I would have thought this would be a much cheaper option. I'm just surprised that they are prepared to spend that much money on it, but your reasons make sense.

    But with that option the salvage company loses the ship. I think they are going to make more money off scraping the ship for part and selling any goods on board than just sinking it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,180 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Surely we could have sent a few Hi-aces and the scrap would be gone by morning?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Presume a big fcuk-off rusting ship isn't a very attractive sight.

    two or three Spanish trawlers were impounded in Galway docks for ages when I was a young one. Lord save us from the smell in town on a warm day. 'Twas worse than passing Taaffe's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    paulbok wrote: »
    Surely we could have sent a few Hi-aces and the scrap would be gone by morning?
    Actually that would be another reason for moving it. There would likely be a not insignificant amount of valuable personal effects on board. The longer it stays aground, the more likely it is that opportunistic people would come along and trying to mount their own impromptu salvage attempts, often by people with nothing more than 3 hours diving training and some cheap tanks. So it's probably costing them a fair bit of cash in ongoing security around the site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    Cost 450m to build it.

    Why don't they just blow it up - surely less expensive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Why don't they just blow it up - surely less expensive

    Or strap it to a rocket and send it into outer space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    gramar wrote: »
    Or strap it to a rocket and send it into outer space.

    That would definitely be more expensive.

    As of 2011 the cheapest cost to orbit for a pound of cargo was $18,149. The Costa Concordia has a displacement of 51,387 tonnes, or 113,289,000 pounds.

    Getting it into space at 2011 prices would cost $2,056,082,061,000 or €1,540,945,093,190.88. Over 1.5 trillion Euro. And that's if you had already sliced it up in to chunks small enough for launch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    That would definitely be more expensive.

    As of 2011 the cheapest cost to orbit for a pound of cargo was $18,149. The Costa Concordia has a displacement of 51,387 tonnes, or 113,289,000 pounds.

    Getting it into space at 2011 prices would cost $2,056,082,061,000 or €1,540,945,093,190.88. Over 1.5 trillion Euro. And that's if you had already sliced it up in to chunks small enough for launch.

    how much TNT would it require?


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